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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Nobody: 3:26pm On Jun 21, 2023
erniok:

You know an intelligent being by how he argues. You jumped into an argument and can't substantiate the notion that the countries that embraced their religion and cultures are really doing better and you have the boldness to state they stole all the ideas used today. That would include aeronautics, computer, etc and yet you claim to be intelligent. Guess we really need to redefine intelligent in your case.

You sound incoherent, what are you really trying to say because you are all over the place.

Please read my post again and try to comprehend what I wrote. I wrote them in simple English for you to understand.

You accused China of stealing tech idea and I rebutted with facts that the western world stole most of its ideas if not all. China is not the only one guilty!

Aeronautics and computer are relatively new, the era of colonisation had already ended by the time these inventions came about.

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by erniok(m): 3:28pm On Jun 21, 2023
paramakina202:


Why can't Africans steal Europeean tech instead they stole their religion.
Good quedtion. Some part of African was busy fifhting tribal war while those that rejected were attcked and conquered like the Benin empire.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by erniok(m): 3:34pm On Jun 21, 2023
Ajagunakin:


You sound incoherent, what are you really trying to say because you are all over the place.

Please read my post again and try to comprehend what I wrote. I wrote them in simple English for you to understand.

Aeronautics and computer are relatively new, the era of colonisation had already ended by the time these inventions came about.
What was the original arguemant. Go back and read before having an opinon. Second, you said all ides were stolen, no exemptions because i clearly stated tech by which i mean a modern knowledge. This shows you can't t even differentiate between copying and stealing by stating Europeans stole numetals from arabs. Lol. You really need to go back to school.
BTW, you are the one all over the place with your hogwash.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by paramakina202: 3:37pm On Jun 21, 2023
erniok:

Good quedtion. Some part of African was busy fifhting tribal war while those that rejected were attcked and conquered like the Benin empire.

India and China was once conquered and subjected to colonialism like Africans.

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Nobody: 3:41pm On Jun 21, 2023
erniok:

What was the original arguemant. Go back and read before having an opinon. Second, you said all ides were stolen, no exemptions because i clearly stated tech by which i mean a modern knowledge. This shows you can't t even differentiate between copying and stealing by stating Europeans stole numetals from arabs. Lol. You really need to go back to school.
BTW, you are the one all over the place with your hogwash.

You sound incoherent, what are you really trying to say because you are all over the place.

Please read my post again and try to comprehend what I wrote. I wrote them in simple English for you to understand.

You accused China of stealing tech idea and I rebutted with facts that the western world stole most of its ideas if not all. China is not the only one guilty!

Aeronautics and computer are relatively new, the era of colonisation had already ended by the time these inventions came about.

Note: I guess China copied too. If that’s what we’re calling it.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by erniok(m): 3:53pm On Jun 21, 2023
Ajagunakin:


You sound incoherent, what are you really trying to say because you are all over the place.

Please read my post again and try to comprehend what I wrote. I wrote them in simple English for you to understand.

You accused China of stealing tech idea and I rebutted with facts that the western world stole most of its ideas if not all. China is not the only one guilty!

Aeronautics and computer are relatively new, the era of colonisation had already ended by the time these inventions came about.

Note: I guess China copied too. If that’s what we’re calling it.
Tech is a modern word and that was how china developed, stealing tech ideas.
Now tell me again how Europeans stole arabic numetals that were at that time an open knowledge. Would really love to learn.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by erniok(m): 4:01pm On Jun 21, 2023
paramakina202:


India and China was once conquered and subjected to colonialism like Africans.
India is not that much far ahead of Africanor at par with the Europeans. Like i pointed out, they have been an emerging economy for over a decade. African countru like RSA is ahead of them in termsnof economic indices.

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Nobody: 4:04pm On Jun 21, 2023
erniok:

Tech is a modern word and that was how china developed, stealing tech ideas.
Now tell me again how Europeans stole arabic numetals that were at that time an open knowledge. Would really love to learn.

Bruh, it’s in the name Hindu-Arabic numerals, you should know this at this your age.

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by erniok(m): 4:10pm On Jun 21, 2023
Ajagunakin:


Bruh, it’s in the name Hindu-Arabic numerals, you should know this at this your age.
Still havent explained how they stole it. Quit beating around the bush and tell us you goofed by saying that knowledge, which was open to all was stolen.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by paramakina202: 4:11pm On Jun 21, 2023
erniok:

India is not that much far ahead of Africanor at par with the Europeans. Like i pointed out, they have been an emerging economy for over a decade. African countru like RSA is ahead of them in termsnof economic indices.

India will get it right very soon because they are putting the right things in place.
We know the reason why SA is doing well.
Remove the white minority SA will become another failed African country in a decade. Thank God for Mandela's wisdom.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by erniok(m): 4:14pm On Jun 21, 2023
paramakina202:


India will get it right very soon because they are putting the right things in place.
We know the reason why SA is doing well.
Remove the white minority SA will become another failed African country in a decade. Thank God for Mandela's wisdom.
Africa's problem is Africans and that was what i need to pint out and not religion or culture. A case study is when they wanted to prosecute an ex president for corruption. Despire having good institutions, we all saw what hapened.

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Nobody: 4:32pm On Jun 21, 2023
erniok:

Still havent explained how they stole it. Quit beating around the bush and tell us you goofed by saying that knowledge, which was open to all was stolen.

This is such a non-intelligent argument, it hurts my brain.

Was Rome a Christian state when it dominated the world?

What about the Mongols and Baghdad?

The western world stole all its ideas! scientific research and methods all stolen from the Arabs, your phonetic writing (alphabets) stolen from Phoenicia in Africa (modern day Tunisia -they were very black before the indigenes got wiped out), architecture stolen from Egypt, the art of c-section surgery stolen from Africans, ability to cure small pox stolen from African slaves etc

I stand corrected.

They couldn’t steal Arabic numerals because it was common knowledge that it was Arabic Still some people here don’t know so let it be know at the numbers we write today have ARABIC ORIGIN.

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by erniok(m): 4:58pm On Jun 21, 2023
Ajagunakin:


This is such a non-intelligent argument, it hurts my brain.

Was Rome a Christian state when it dominated the world?

What about the Mongols and Baghdad?

The western world stole all its ideas! scientific research and methods all stolen from the Arabs, your phonetic writing (alphabets) stolen from Phoenicia in Africa (modern day Tunisia -they were very black before the indigenes got wiped out), architecture stolen from Egypt, the art of c-section surgery stolen from Africans, ability to cure small pox stolen from African slaves etc

I stand corrected.

They couldn’t steal Arabic numerals because it was common knowledge that it was Arabic Still some people here don’t know so let it be know at the numbers we write today have ARABIC ORIGIN.
Obviously, you still don't know the difference between stealing and copying. Let me educate you a bit although you should pay for it. When silk knowledge was seen in Europe, it was stolen becase the caterpillars was smuggled out of china. But when i see your architecture that was all over the place and take it to my place and replicate, its not stolen unless you can ptove that there was an existing law prohibiting me from using that knowledge. Same applies to all things you mentioned.
At least, you have acknowledged no one stole arabic numerals or any branch of mathematics they helped develop.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by paramakina202: 5:20pm On Jun 21, 2023
erniok:

Africa's problem is Africans and that was what i need to pint out and not religion or culture. A case study is when they wanted to prosecute an ex president for corruption. Despire having good institutions, we all saw what hapened.

I am not against religion either but we should copy European tech too like India and China are doing.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by erniok(m): 5:25pm On Jun 21, 2023
paramakina202:


I am not against religion either but we should copy European tech too like India and China are doing.
And who will protect you when they comr for you like China does for her citizens. Secondly, we don't have capacity for them to bring in their tech. Look at powrr, insecurity, corruption (the reason virgin air) left.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Reflect7: 5:37pm On Jun 21, 2023
BloomingDale:
Have we not been sounding the alarm to the Christians and Muslims in Nigeria? They will meet their Jesus in the clouds(Google and Apple cloud) when Elon Musk put that chip in their brain. Lol

They even deceived them that an Anti Christ will rule them. Signal for the white man to take over the world, kill them at will to decrease our population, rule over them and make them slaves again.

It’s a shame my brother.

I keep telling people that this Jesus scam - a character invented by Rome, is their undoing.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Reflect7: 5:39pm On Jun 21, 2023
paramakina202:


I am not against religion either but we should copy European tech too like India and China are doing.

There’s nothing like “European tech”.

Technology did not begin with Europeans and will not end with them.

Technology is technology.

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Reflect7: 5:49pm On Jun 21, 2023
Ajagunakin:


This is such a non-intelligent argument, it hurts my brain.

Was Rome a Christian state when it dominated the world?

What about the Mongols and Baghdad?

The western world stole all its ideas! scientific research and methods all stolen from the Arabs, your phonetic writing (alphabets) stolen from Phoenicia in Africa (modern day Tunisia -they were very black before the indigenes got wiped out), architecture stolen from Egypt, the art of c-section surgery stolen from Africans, ability to cure small pox stolen from African slaves etc

I stand corrected.

They couldn’t steal Arabic numerals because it was common knowledge that it was Arabic Still some people here don’t know so let it be know at the numbers we write today have ARABIC ORIGIN.

Just to mention. This so-called ‘Arab’ influence on Europe was actually the influence of BLACK WEST AFRICAN MOORS who ruled large parts of Europe between 711 and 1492.

Nearly 800 years.

Most Africans are totally unaware of this because of colonial whitewashing of history.

But all you need to do is go on Google Images and type in “Moorish crests and statues”.

You will see hundreds of European aristocrat family crests and coats-of-arms with their black progenitors.

You will not see a single Arab in any of the images.

Just black kings and nobles.

Numerous Moorish statues in various cities across Europe too.

It was the Moors who dragged Europe out of their Dark Ages and into their Renaissance period which was the springboard for the industrial revolution.

Till today they have numerous festivals in Europe where thousands of people fill the streets to celebrate the Moors, and wear blackface, ie paint their faces black.

Again, you can see it all on Google images.

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by paramakina202: 5:50pm On Jun 21, 2023
Reflect7:


There’s nothing like “European tech”.

Technology did not begin with Europeans and will not end with them.

Technology is technology.

Start from the guy who used that term first.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Adullam888: 5:52pm On Jun 21, 2023
Ajagunakin:


This is such a non-intelligent argument, it hurts my brain.

Was Rome a Christian state when it dominated the world?

What about the Mongols and Baghdad?

The western world stole all its ideas! scientific research and methods all stolen from the Arabs, your phonetic writing (alphabets) stolen from Phoenicia in Africa (modern day Tunisia -they were very black before the indigenes got wiped out), architecture stolen from Egypt, the art of c-section surgery stolen from Africans, ability to cure small pox stolen from African slaves etc

I stand corrected.

They couldn’t steal Arabic numerals because it was common knowledge that it was Arabic Still some people here don’t know so let it be know at the numbers we write today have ARABIC ORIGIN.

Your submission is on point, but the numerals were invented by mathematicians in India. Both Persian and Arabic mathematicians called it Hindu numerals.
It is popularly called Arabic numerals because it was introduced to the Europeans by Arab traders.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Reflect7: 6:02pm On Jun 21, 2023
paramakina202:


India will get it right very soon because they are putting the right things in place.
We know the reason why SA is doing well.
Remove the white minority SA will become another failed African country in a decade. Thank God for Mandela's wisdom.

Oh please just shut your slave lips. Mr inferiority complex.

Numerous African nations have higher living standards than India.

Botswana, Namibia, Kenya, Ivory Coast, Seychelles, Cape Verde, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon are all black African - ruled nations, with a higher GDP per capita than India, so what’s your excuse now?

Other African nations like Rwanda, Uganda, Tanzania, Senegal, Ethiopia, Angola are also “getting it right” with fast-growing economies, and faster growing than India, eg Senegal with an 8.3% GDP growth rate, but you ignore all this to smear the whole continent.

Stop relying on CNN and BBC racist narratives of African inertia.

A LOT of development is happening on the continent.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Reflect7: 6:41pm On Jun 21, 2023
article1:
May King Leopold II continue to roast in hell

The Belgian monster who killed 30 million innocent Congolese.

Yeah… he’s roasting real good.

I can even smell his burning, fat body as he screams in agony in hell.

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Tochi3(m): 6:57pm On Jun 21, 2023
Ajagunakin:


This is such a non-intelligent argument, it hurts my brain.

Was Rome a Christian state when it dominated the world?

What about the Mongols and Baghdad?

The western world stole all its ideas! Your numerals were stolen from the Arabs, scientific research and methods all stolen from the Arabs, your phonetic writing (alphabets) stolen from Phoenicia in Africa (modern day Tunisia -they were very black before the indigenes got wiped out), architecture stolen from Egypt, the art of c-section surgery stolen from Africans, ability to cure small pox stolen from African slaves etc
The Arabs stole all those from the blacks...Go & read the destruction of Black Civilization by Chancellor Williams. Don't come here and confuse gullible people. The Arabs were the first to enslave Africans, stole their civilization which the europeans stole through the greeks [Greece]

The Arabs forced their own religion of Islam on the blacks.

Learn your history. The Arabs were thieves just like the europeans. Ever heard of upper & lower egypt I guess you have

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Reflect7: 7:00pm On Jun 21, 2023
Tochi3:
The Arabs stole all those from the blacks...Go & read the destruction of Black Civilization by Chancellir Williams. Don't come here and tell lies to gullible people. The Arabs were thevfirst

That book has been called ‘The Black Man’s Bible’.

It should be required reading in every school in Nigeria and Africa.

I rejected Christianity after reading ‘The Destruction of Black Civilization’, by Dr Chancellor Williams.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Tochi3(m): 7:05pm On Jun 21, 2023
Reflect7:


That book has been called ‘The Black Man’s Bible’.

It should be required reading in every school in Nigeria and Africa.

I rejected Christianity after reading ‘The Destruction of Black Civilisation’, by Dr Chancellor Williams.

You are a free born homie. Kudos

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by paramakina202: 8:14pm On Jun 21, 2023
Reflect7:


Oh please just shut your slave lips. Mr inferiority complex.

Numerous African nations have higher living standards than India.

Botswana, Namibia, Kenya, Ivory Coast, Seychelles, Cape Verde, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon are all black African - ruled nations, with a higher GDP per capita than India, so what’s your excuse now?

Other African nations like Rwanda, Uganda, Tanzania, Senegal, Ethiopia, Angola are also “getting it right” with fast-growing economies, and faster growing than India, eg Senegal with an 8.3% GDP growth rate, but you ignore all this to smear the whole continent.

Stop relying on CNN and BBC racist narratives of African inertia.

A LOT of development is happening on the continent.


Füq you and get lost.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Reflect7: 8:43pm On Jun 21, 2023
paramakina202:


Füq you and get lost.

SLAVE.

FELA SANG ABOUT YOUR TYPE.

WORTHLESS.


''THE THING WEY BLACK NO GOOD.

NA FOREIGN THINGS DEM DEY LIKE NO BE SO? (E BE SO)

COLOMENTALITY

E BE SAY YOU BE COLONIAL MAN

YOU DON BE SLAVE MAN BEFORE

DEM DON RELEASE YOU NOW

BUT YOU NEVA RELEASE YOURSELF!''



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC6ouP7qRoQ&ab_channel=FelaKuti
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by ednut1(m): 8:55pm On Jun 21, 2023
DodadaKoKigbe:
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

My GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
both fake. Belgium king writing in English Never happened
https://m.thewire.in/article/history/macaulays-speech-never-delivered/amp

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by optionalY09: 9:00pm On Jun 21, 2023
Finish them Jesus Lovers, Awon you can’t talk jacks hit to my pastor. My pastor is closer to god

Oya come and defend this

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Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by HellVictorinho6(m): 9:14pm On Jun 21, 2023
erniok:

He cited example with india that is not doing better than the west.
4get that west vs asia nonsense
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by Nobody: 10:47pm On Jun 21, 2023
Tochi3:
The Arabs stole all those from the blacks...Go & read the destruction of Black Civilization by Chancellir Williams. Don't come here and confuse gullible people. The Arabs were the first to enslave Africans, stole their civilization which the europeans stole through the greeks [Greece]

The Arabs forced their own religion of Islam on the blacks.

Learn your history. The Arabs were thieves just like the europeans. Ever heard of upper & lower egypt I guess you have

You do know that are black Arabs right?

Anyways, you missed my point, but thanks for your contribution. I HAVE READ THE BOOK.
Re: See What The Europeans Said About Africans Before Colonizing by 1Sharon(f): 11:42pm On Jun 21, 2023
KingOfIsoko1:
How do we verify this claim,


I used reverse image search engine tineye couldn’t find anything of the sort

Because it's fake.

The British did say alot of things. But " Lord Macauley" never said that.

They photoshopped one for India too:

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