airsaylongcome:


I completely OBJECT to this. Take TOTAL objection at “It’s a Nigerian thing to be selfish”. There are many of us Nigerians who are very very liberal with information. Damned liberal. When i became active on this sub, I used to regularly download and send learning materials running into several tens of Gigs to people across Nigeria. Exclusively at my cost. I bought the flash drives, I used my internet to download. I paid for delivery. In fact none of the people I sent stuff to ever knew my real name. And there are many people like that in Nigeria. The problem is Nigerians feel very entitled! The other day I pointed someone towards job openings on crossover.com. Next thing I got was that I should come and write the exams for them. I hope this isn’t Jarushub though, because I will be totally disappointed if it is. People will only mentor people if they have a good relationship with them and if the mentee has shown great initiative. Otherwise, you will be pointed to YouTube, your so called “white peoples” solution

I don't understand why you're throwing emotional tantrums over what is obvious
, except you're in denial.

Secondly , you generalizing and saying that many Nigerians are into the same information sharing pool as you isn't true , I say this because, I visit this section to see lots of struggling people not knowing what to do ...and rarely comment on this.

In fact , I hardly comment on this section, but if I do, it's for very valid reasons that have been lingering on for far too long .


Lastly , it's not an entitlement mentality to ask for mentorship (aka hand-holding) ...especially if the intrested persons are willing to put in the effort. Little things like the basics of a tech career or roadmaps into the latest technologies should be littering the place, but hardly would you see this .

This is my observation and it will help if each and everyone here (including myself ) changed this attitude, so that it would be easier for us as a nation to churn out the next generation of programmers who would be better equipped to start a tech career instead of just meandering on in the halls of YouTube for things we could easily have mentored them on

Jashub:
I don't understand why you're throwing emotional tantrums over what is obvious
, except you're in denial.

Secondly , you generalizing and saying that many Nigerians are into the same information sharing pool as you isn't true , I say this because, I visit this section to see lots of struggling people not knowing what to do ...and rarely comment on this.

In fact , I hardly comment on this section, but if I do, it's for very valid reasons that have been lingering on for far too long .


Lastly , it's not an entitlement mentality to ask for mentorship (aka hand-holding) ...especially if the intrested persons are willing to put in the effort. Little things like the basics of a tech career or roadmaps into the latest technologies should be littering the place, but hardly would you see this .

This is my observation and it will help each and everyone one here (including myself ) to change this attitude so that we can churn out the next generation of programmers who would be better equipped to start a career in tech instead of meandering on YouTube for things we could easily mentor them on

So I will ask you, did you provide free AC mentorship for the NLNG GTs this year? Or in 2016?

airsaylongcome:


So I will ask you, did you provide free AC mentorship for the NLNG GTs this year? Or in 2016?

I'm not here to say or boast about what I have contributed ( that's between me and my God )but I'll tell you one thing : I do help in the little I can .

Jashub:
I don't understand why you're throwing emotional tantrums over what is obvious
, except you're in denial.

Secondly , you generalizing and saying that many Nigerians are into the same information sharing pool as you isn't true , I say this because, I visit this section to see lots of struggling people not knowing what to do ...and rarely comment on this.

In fact , I hardly comment on this section, but if I do, it's for very valid reasons that have been lingering on for far too long .


Lastly , it's not an entitlement mentality to ask for mentorship (aka hand-holding) ...especially if the intrested persons are willing to put in the effort. Little things like the basics of a tech career or roadmaps into the latest technologies should be littering the place, but hardly would you see this .

This is my observation and it will help each and everyone one here (including myself ) to change this attitude so that we can churn out the next generation of programmers who would be better equipped to start a career in tech instead of meandering on YouTube for things we could easily mentor them on

not to sound offensive, but that's not realistic, look at the economy, you think your average dev is going to forgo his time out of humility just to help out of the goodness of their heart. Also Programming is not a field for hand-holding.

qtguru:


not to sound offensive, but that's not realistic, look at the economy, you think your average dev is going to forgo his time out of humility just to help out of the goodness of their heart. You must be a better man.

Tor...I have heard you . Let me take my leave.

Jashub:
I'm not here to say or boast about what I have contributed ( that's between me and my God )but I'll tell you one thing : I do help in the little I can .

Now you helping in the little way you can and several other people helping in the little way they can isn't that what most people here are doing? Many so-called "gurus" here stumbled their way into tech driven by hunger. Many never had a career plan and are only just feeling their way through the field. I stumbled my way into my current field driven by a job loss. And I am only blindly feeling my way through. So to lay accusations that people aren't sharing information is completely unfair. I remember on a thread here were someone developed a point of sale software and I pointed them to open source solutions they can look at to get ideas how to build and strengthen their solutions and was rebuffed. Many people looking for "mentors" here are looking for free teachers. Qtguru has a slack channel were he tries to provide some kind of training. Howany of these mentees are there? He has had a couple of webinars and turnout has been less than stellar. And he still does it whether turnout is one or five. I've never met him and we've it ever talked via his webinars so I'm not ass-licking (as you seem to quickly throw around when someone supports someone else here). In fact when I get on his webinars he can tell I'm an old school programmer because of the languages I talk about. But I join intermittently to see what the young guns are up to. And it's only the real die hard that have been on his webinars. Like I always say, a mentee needs to show considerable initiative for a mentor to want to take up that responsibility.

airsaylongcome:


Now you helping in the little way you can and several other people helping in the little way they can isn't that what most people here are doing? Many so-called "gurus" here stumbled their way into tech driven by hunger. Many never had a career plan and are only just feeling their way through the field. I stumbled my way into my current field driven by a job loss. And I am only blindly feeling my way through. So to lay accusations that people aren't sharing information is completely unfair. I remember on a thread here were someone developed a point of sale software and I pointed them to open source solutions they can look at to get ideas how to build and strengthen their solutions and was rebuffed. Many people looking for "mentors" here are looking for free teachers. Qtguru has a slack channel were he tries to provide some kind of training. Howany of these mentees are there? He has had a couple of webinars and turnout has been less than stellar. And he still does it whether turnout is one or five. I've never met him and we've it ever talked via his webinars so I'm not ass-licking (as you seem to quickly throw around when someone supports someone else here). In fact when I get on his webinars he can tell I'm an old school programmer because of the languages I talk about. But I join intermittently to see what the young guns are up to. And it's only the real die hard that have been on his webinars. Like I always say, a mentee needs to show considerable initiative for a mentor to want to take up that responsibility.

Free him, people who have goals don't look for excuses.

airsaylongcome:


Now you helping in the little way you can and several other people helping in the little way they can isn't that what most people here are doing? Many so-called "gurus" here stumbled their way into tech driven by hunger. Many never had a career plan and are only just feeling their way through the field. I stumbled my way into my current field driven by a job loss. And I am only blindly feeling my way through. So to lay accusations that people aren't sharing information is completely unfair. I remember on a thread here were someone developed a point of sale software and I pointed them to open source solutions they can look at to get ideas how to build and strengthen their solutions and was rebuffed. Many people looking for "mentors" here are looking for free teachers. Qtguru has a slack channel were he tries to provide some kind of training. Howany of these mentees are there? He has had a couple of webinars and turnout has been less than stellar. And he still does it whether turnout is one or five. I've never met him and we've it ever talked via his webinars so I'm not ass-licking (as you seem to quickly throw around when someone supports someone else here). In fact when I get on his webinars he can tell I'm an old school programmer because of the languages I talk about. But I join intermittently to see what the young guns are up to. And it's only the real die hard that have been on his webinars. Like I always say, a mentee needs to show considerable initiative for a mentor to want to take up that responsibility.

...so going by your analogy, you believe it makes sense to see others follow the same struggling path you used to get to where you currently are right now ...right?

Jashub:
...so going by your analogy, you believe it makes sense to see others follow the same struggling path you used to get to where you currently are right now ...right?

So this free mentorship is this online or physical ?

qtguru:


So this free mentorship is this online or physical ?

Why do you ask ...?

Jashub:
...so going by your analogy, you believe it makes sense to see others follow the same struggling path you used to get to where you currently are right now ...right?

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying many of us that have gotten to where we are, aren't fully clear about what path we are following sef. Ma y have less than 5-7 years experience working professional remote roles. I will be an example, I started of learning my current role exclusively relying on YouTube. A 21 chapter playlist I listened to and executed the task step by step. I've shared this resource on here. And no one, not one person has reached out to say please can you help me explain this or that from the playlist. I personally trained one person step by step in the middle of juggling two jobs. And the person literally told me to find a job for him. I linked him up with a handful of Upwork freelance jobs and ended up executing the jobs myself. My point? A lot of these people who are looking for mentors are looking for free teachers to spoon feed them, get job for them and then work the job for them.

Jashub:
Why do you ask ...?

feasibility

airsaylongcome:


That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying many of us that have gotten to where we are, aren't fully clear about what path we are following sef. Ma y have less than 5-7 years experience working professional remote roles. I will be an example, I started of learning my current role exclusively relying on YouTube. A 21 chapter playlist I listened to and executed the task step by step. I've shared this resource on here. And no one, not one person has reached out to say please can you help me explain this or that from the playlist. I personally trained one person step by step in the middle of juggling two jobs. And the person literally told me to find a job for him. I linked him up with a handful of Upwork freelance jobs and ended up executing the jobs myself. My point? A lot of these people who are looking for mentors are looking for free teachers to spoon feed them, get job for them and then work the job for them.

Tor...no wahala. It is well

qtguru:


feasibility

Feasibility into what ?

If it's physical who is going to be responsible for handling the location of mentoring people and if it's online, how is that any different from watching a Youtube video. Programming cannot be taught indepthly by someone, because it's a lot to learn, bootcamps are just eating your money and building business of dreams.

Self learning is still the ideal way of surviving in this freelance market with minimal cost. I've said it join a community it's easier to learn in peers than finding a mentor.

Your solution doesn't sound feasible to me, unless you just want to make contributions in the section too, then i understand.

airsaylongcome:


That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying many of us that have gotten to where we are, aren't fully clear about what path we are following sef. Ma y have less than 5-7 years experience working professional remote roles. I will be an example, I started of learning my current role exclusively relying on YouTube. A 21 chapter playlist I listened to and executed the task step by step. I've shared this resource on here. And no one, not one person has reached out to say please can you help me explain this or that from the playlist. I personally trained one person step by step in the middle of juggling two jobs. And the person literally told me to find a job for him. I linked him up with a handful of Upwork freelance jobs and ended up executing the jobs myself. My point? A lot of these people who are looking for mentors are looking for free teachers to spoon feed them, get job for them and then work the job for them.

No point arguing, guys got his mind already made up.
Plus your approach on sharing resources and helping the little that you can is appreciated, even if majority don't like it, and think it's gatekeeping.
Also, the idea of mentorship for most Nigerians is messed up. On this WhatsApp group I joined, some guy zipped his assignment and was asking someone to finish it, someone went and picked it up to "flex his Javascript knowledge". Twas sad.

qtguru:


NexaScale I'm a mentor there , it's a slack group, the rest is up to you to join.

Boss is NexaScale a channel on scala? Please how do I join? I'm new on scala and still trying to find my way around.

airsaylongcome:
Na wa! So someone who’s neck deep in tech, struggling to keep his ahead above workload and Nigeria economic neck-pressing is suddenly wicked because he doesn’t mentor some self-entitled prick? Do you guys honestly see mentorship as your right simply because you asked someone to mentor you? Do you know the mental drain it takes to mentor someone? There has to be a relationship and a good one at that for someone to them decide to escalate that relationship to a mentorship. Like someone up there said, “No one owes you shi shi”. A mentee has to show considerable level of initiative and willingness to learn to for a more experienced person to take on an unpaid role to mentor them. Many experienced people didn’t have mentors. They literally learned on their own overcoming all the odds. Make una rest with all these emotional blackmail. If because person no mentor you then that person is wicked , then yes they are wicked. How many people do you think Dangote, or Otedola or Elumelu mentored? How many people reached out to them for mentorship? Does the fact that they declined 99% of mentorship request make them wicked?

What many of you here refer to as mentorship is you looking for someone to spoonfeed you, plan your learning, follow you up and basically be a teacher for free. Well guess what? There are many free learning tools. Use them

PS: There are no tech “gurus” here on Nairaland. We are always perpetually learning. The day you acknowledge yourself as a “guru” is the day you die

You're very correct!

LutherKing001:


Boss is NexaScale a channel on scala? Please how do I join? I'm new on scala and still trying to find my way around.

Scala no, at all

qtguru:


Scala no, at all

Sorry it's a typo error I mean slack

qtguru:
Depends, some of us might be, and some are nice. But Youtube is there, why do you need a teacher, information is free

Boss i dey look for intern or junior role

chukwuebuka65:


Boss i dey look for intern or junior role

Freelance is the best route to start, let me see your profile ?

qtguru:


Freelance is the best route to start, let me see your profile ?

Will my GitHub do?

https://github.com/anichukwuebuka65

chukwuebuka65:


Will my GitHub do?

https://github.com/anichukwuebuka65

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chukwuebuka65:


Will my GitHub do?

https://github.com/anichukwuebuka65

You are looking for internship or junior role but your github headline reads " I am a professional frontend...". it's obvious you are not yet a professional so why not yank off the "professional" word

QuantumR:

You are looking for internship or junior role but your github headline reads " I am a professional frontend...". it's obvious you are not yet a professional so why not yank off the "professional" word

What should I write sir?

Write Junior Developer, bro even senior developer are pretending to be junior developers for extra jobs lol , the senior you are, the more work and stress you do.

qtguru:
Write Junior Developer, bro even senior developer are pretending to be junior developers for extra jobs lol , the senior you are, the more work and stress you do.

Is it only more work? The interview alone for Senior dev is brutal. The pay is also delicious. But the koko na to enter first. After you fit “guru up” and become a Senior

airsaylongcome:


Is it only more work? The interview alone for Senior dev is brutal. The pay is also delicious. But the koko na to enter first. After you fit “guru up” and become a Senior

Mind if I shoot you a mail?

KrazyDave16:

Mind if I shoot you a mail?

Telegram. Check my post history for link

airsaylongcome:


Telegram. Check my post history for link

For some reasons, couldn't get it/default TG opening but I'm just gonna say it here anyways.

Got a gig, amongst the documents they're requesting, one is a PCC.
I got two options, either get it physically or online.
Online doesn't hold much appeal due to my current location.
And if I choose to go the physical route, there's no FCID here, just SCID, and I dunno if they issue it?

Edit: I saw certifos does issue for the online route, but I'm skeptical about em, hence me wanting to go the physical route