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Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Diego35M: 4:03pm On Jun 30, 2023
vanitybutiwanti:
They can not, the modern proponents of Biafra are always trying to drag the SS into their their agitation, there is a thread on Nairaland where Nnamdi Kanu rejected BIAFRA because some SS states were not handed to him. We are all adults, if you really want your Country, Prevail on your lawmakers to do the needfull. even in Real life, the wealthy friend always have people trying to please him, nobody is a fool, if the SS was a desolate region without resources like the SE under the same same SS name do you really think the igbos will be trying to drag them into their Biafran project?
You know nothing; maybe you're just a young poor Nigerian trying to survive...
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by walex2(m): 4:04pm On Jun 30, 2023
helinues:
We SE/SS terms was terminated in the just concluded Senate president position. SE chose Yari a northerner over Akpabio who is your neighbor

For how long would you be continue with this wolf crying?

The last bus left, SE is now officially politically stranded
imagine they chose Yari over Akpabio, let assume Yari won the Senate president they will be the one to cry fowl against Muslim/ Muslim/ Muslim tickets. Very pathetic set of people the reason I don't take them and their wailing serious on this forum. Politically south east is no more relevant in political permutations of winning presidential election in Nigeria. Am not even sure TINUBU will go to the south east to campaign in 2027. I don't even want them to vote for him so they will continue to watch things afar
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by FSBoperator: 4:05pm On Jun 30, 2023
Penguin2:
Oh!

So it’s no longer Murtala Muhammed that led Nigerian soldiers to murder people in Mid Western Nigeria, it is now Biafran Soldiers?

Ose, Agba Nairaland historian.

Meanwhile, Awolowo died with a pain and sore in his heart because even ceremonial presidency he never saw.
You know nothing.

Long before Murtala took Asaba , your Biafran rogue soldiers occupied old Bendel driving out Ejoor and from there began rounding up non Igboid young men in places like Warri and from there killing and eating them.

The same thing happened in Cross River and present day Rivers.

Have you asked why the Niger Delta tribes treated you Ike invaders and celebrated the Nigerian federal forces

Professor Akpan wrote a well researched book on this hidden artrocities committed by your cannibal orcs on the Niger Delta minorities during the occupation.

There is even a community in Rivers that holds an annual remberence of their liberation from Biafra.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by seunmsg(m): 4:27pm On Jun 30, 2023
Penguin2, why are you Igbos against the unity between South west and south south? Are we not the same southerners again? What is wrong in south west and south south working together over common interest and overall benefit of the south and Nigeria? Is there a law that says south west and south south must not collaborate?

Igbos have made it clear they don’t want to work with the south west on any issue. What then is wrong if we decide to work with our south south brothers? Why can’t you mind your business and leave the south west out of your wailing mouth? Why the obsession with the south west?

Finally, let me correct the impression that the SE and SS belong to the old eastern region. That’s a lie you people always tell to yourself. Edo and about 80% of the current Delta state were never at any time a part of the old eastern region. They were part of the western region before the Midwestern region was formed. Traditionally, Edo and Delta always vote alongside the south west as we are brother’s geographically and ethnically. In fact. Ambrose Ali of Awolowo’s UPN was elected the first Governor of Old Bendel state (Edo and Delta). In 1993, Edo and Delta voted overwhelmingly for MKO while the Igbos voted for Bashir Tofa. So, it is even politically incorrect to claim that the SS and SE always vote along the same line. Even in the last election, the SE gave over 90% of their votes to LP while LP barely got 40% in SS. So, what’s your point again?
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by JpBiz92: 4:55pm On Jun 30, 2023
vanitybutiwanti:
The Reality is different from your wishful thinking , pesonally, I know over 10 igbo and yoruba couples
you can know 20 if you wish.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 5:18pm On Jun 30, 2023
Jogs1900:
These SE people are looking for survival and that's the reason for always mentioning SS in their phantom country.When they are ready to stand alone, the will not think of involving SS in their phantom Biafra.
SW leaders have been taking bold steps because they know they can survive without any region.
South South will never side with either the south east either the southwest.
But the southwest is just as dumb as the southeast, you guys believe Lagos belongs to you, but you will be surprised in case there is a seperation. And to the best of my knowledge, the southwest (Lagos excluded) is impoverished.
Lagos which is a part of Precolonial Benin kingdom naturally belongs with the southsouth, but my guess is that in the case of a seperation, Lagos will become its own country.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by LOVEALAIGBO:
Parachoco:
Just like Nigeria, the Eastern Region was created by the White Men

There was no time the Region was One before it was merge by the British
Dude, hardly any geo-political entity in Africa today existed in its present form prior to the coming of the European colonialists! What you had prior were mainly political/economic/cultural interactions between and amongst clans, ethnicities and even empires contiguous and close to each other, and this is what obtained in the areas formerly known as Eastern and Midwestern Regions…even predating colonialism and slave trade.

Regarding the topic: Tinubu and his minions (both on ground and the e-thugs) have realised their arrogant emilokan stance can only take them so far, and if they’re to survive the cut-throat world of Nigerian ethno-religious inspired politics and governance, that they’d need (gullible) allies in the south as well when facing the unpredictable muslim core north and their political chicanery! The emilokans have ruled out the south-east, so they’re looking towards the south-south…and for them to succeed, they need to break whatever bond exists between the south-east and south-south by the divide-and-rule tactics of trying to cause disaffection and mistrust between the two regions even as they throw a few crumbs towards some south-south political and militant elite to butter them up and try to gain their servitude!
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Nobody: 6:06pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
South South will never side with either the south east either the southwest.
But the southwest is just as dumb as the southeast, you guys believe Lagos belongs to you, but you will be surprised in case there is a seperation. And to the best of my knowledge, the southwest (Lagos excluded) is impoverished.
Lagos which is a part of Precolonial Benin kingdom naturally belongs with the southsouth, but my guess is that in the case of a seperation, Lagos will become its own country.
Benin is not south south and benin city is significantly worse than ibadan...
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 6:08pm On Jun 30, 2023
LOVEALAIGBO:
Dude, hardly any geo-political entity in Africa today existed in its present form prior to the coming of the European colonialists! What you had prior were mainly political/economic/cultural interactions between and amongst ethnicities contiguous and close to each other, and this is what obtained in the areas formerly known as Eastern and Midwestern Regions…even predating colonialism and slave trade.
Europeans didn't create the concept of country or kingdom. What they created is the concept of ethnicity. But you seem to think it is the other way around.
Below is a precolonial map: made before the indigenous structures were destroyed by european armies.

Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 6:10pm On Jun 30, 2023
tundein18:
Benin is not south south and benin city is significantly worse than ibadan...
"Benin is not southsouth"
So I guess you just adapt reality to your mood now.
Edo-state is part of the south-south, I don't expect a Yoruba to know anything about the southsouth or Benin except fairytales told by his uncles.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Nobody: 6:13pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
"Benin is not southsouth"
So I guess you just adapt reality to your mood now.
Edo-state is part of the south-south, I don't expect a Yoruba to know anything about the southsouth or Benin except fairytales told by his uncles.
What is South South genius? You Benin people think that youre just gonna annex rivers ondo and ijaw into to if we were to divide? You'll be left with your one state
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 6:14pm On Jun 30, 2023
tundein18:
What is South South genius?
It's a gro-political region and Edo-state is part of it.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Nobody: 6:15pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
It's a gro-political region and Edo-state is part of it.
yeah its one created by nigeria.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 6:16pm On Jun 30, 2023
tundein18:
yeah its one created by nigeria.
Like all other Nigerian geo-political regions.
What was not created by nigeria however is Benin empire/kingdom which can be seen in the precolonial map below.

Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Nobody: 6:17pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
Like all other Nigerian geo-political regions
Yet you try to claim lagos belongs to benin based of precolonial history while trying to claim south south because of nigeria. Are you confused huh
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 6:19pm On Jun 30, 2023
tundein18:
Yet you try to claim lagos belongs to benin based of precolonial history while trying to claim south south because of nigeria. Are you confused huh
Locate the south-south in precolonial maps.
Who is confused?

Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Nobody: 6:21pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
Locate the south-south in precolonial maps
So you're saying that lagos will go with benin and rivers bayelsa and awka ibom will go with benin based off your map huh
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 6:21pm On Jun 30, 2023
tundein18:
So you're saying that lagos will go with benin and rivers bayelsa and awka ibom will go with benin based off your map huh
Kindly quote the comment where I said that.
You seem very confused.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by BentizilL: 6:22pm On Jun 30, 2023
Cooly100:
How do Switzerland do it?

Sudan, Lesotho, Austria etc....

There is no point living with groups that detest all your move and the gang up...

The potential of SE is wasted by not being autonomous.
You're the ignorant one here, Edo and delta were part of western region under Awolowo
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 6:24pm On Jun 30, 2023
BentizilL:
You're the ignorant one here, Edo and delta were part of western region under Awolowo
And we voted to leave the western region because we were not comfortable with its yorubanisation which the yorubas who had political favour with the British were pushing on everybody in the region.

p.s: it is Edo-state.
Edo refers to Benin city, the Edo language and the people of Benin empire.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by LOVEALAIGBO: 6:24pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
Europeans didn't create the concept of country or kingdom. What they created is the concept of ethnicity. But you seem to think it is the other way around.
Below is a precolonial map: made before the indigenous structures were destroyed by european armies.
I edited my post even before reading this one of yours.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Nobody: 6:25pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
Kindly quote the comment where I said that.
You seem very confused.
Who is a benin huh
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 6:27pm On Jun 30, 2023
tundein18:
Who is a benin huh
You can read maps as well as I can, answer that question by yourself, read the maps. You aren't a baby anymore.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Nobody: 6:28pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
You can read maps as well as I can, answer that question by yourself, read the maps. You aren't a baby anymore.
So lagos ogun ondo rivers awka ibom delta bayelsa will go with benin if we divide huh
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 6:29pm On Jun 30, 2023
tundein18:
So lagos ogun ondo rivers awka ibom delta bayelsa will go with benin if we divide huh
For predictions of the future, go and consult a native doctor, I am unfortunately not qualified for native doctor practices.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Nobody: 6:31pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
For predictions of the future, go and consult a native doctor, I am unfortunately not qualified for native doctor practices.
Read your own posts and you'll see why benin is reduced to one state cry
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 6:31pm On Jun 30, 2023
tundein18:
Read your own posts and you'll see why benin is reduced to one state cry
Get off my mentions or stop being mentally ill.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Unperturbedpota: 6:40pm On Jun 30, 2023
seunmsg:
Penguin2, why are you Igbos against the unity between South west and south south? Are we not the same southerners again? What is wrong in south west and south south working together over common interest and overall benefit of the south and Nigeria? Is there a law that says south west and south south must not collaborate?

Igbos have made it clear they don’t want to work with the south west on any issue. What then is wrong if we decide to work with our south south brothers? Why can’t you mind your business and leave the south west out of your wailing mouth? Why the obsession with the south west?

Finally, let me correct the impression that the SE and SS belong to the old eastern region. That’s a lie you people always tell to yourself. Edo and about 80% of the current Delta state were never at any time a part of the old eastern region. They were part of the western region before the Midwestern region was formed. Traditionally, Edo and Delta always vote alongside the south west as we are brother’s geographically and ethnically. In fact. Ambrose Ali of Awolowo’s UPN was elected the first Governor of Old Bendel state (Edo and Delta). In 1993, Edo and Delta voted overwhelmingly for MKO while the Igbos voted for Bashir Tofa. So, it is even politically incorrect to claim that the SS and SE always vote along the same line. Even in the last election, the SE gave over 90% of their votes to LP while LP barely got 40% in SS. So, what’s your point again?
Take this as a warning. Pls respect other tribes on thos forum and respect yourself

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Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Abbeytoy(m): 6:56pm On Jun 30, 2023
Highlife217:
There is no SE and SS, it really should be one Eastern region.
Maybe they should all be under the Southwest and be called South?
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by BentizilL: 6:57pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
South South will never side with either the south east either the southwest.
But the southwest is just as dumb as the southeast, you guys believe Lagos belongs to you, but you will be surprised in case there is a seperation. And to the best of my knowledge, the southwest (Lagos excluded) is impoverished.
Lagos which is a part of Precolonial Benin kingdom naturally belongs with the southsouth, but my guess is that in the case of a seperation, Lagos will become its own country.
Lagos being a Yoruba land is not even up for a debate, the earlier you understand that the better for you...

Meanwhile calling Southwest impoverished is a joke taken too far, exclude Lagos and you'll still pick Southwest as the most developed region in Nigeria... No be by chestbeating, with or without Lagos SW is always a contender... 💯
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 7:02pm On Jun 30, 2023
BentizilL:
Lagos being a Yoruba land is not even up for a debate,
Indeed it is not open for debate since it has already been proven to be false with Precolonial maps and texts

Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by BentizilL: 7:05pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
And we voted to leave the western region because we were not comfortable with its yorubanisation which the yorubas who had political favour with the British were pushing on everybody in the region.

p.s: it is Edo-state.
Edo refers to Benin city, the Edo language and the people of Benin empire.
Same way the Akwa-cross people voted to leave the Eastern region because of their marginalisation...

I only reply the guy trying to claim the whole SS as part of the former Eastern region.. Mind you I'm an Edo boy...
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