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Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Stoplying: 3:23pm On Jul 01, 2023
Christistruth00:
He explained that his visit was to identify with the people of Yorubaland, as Warri people regard themselves as part of the Yoruba stock"

https://dailypost.ng/2022/03/30/olu-of-warri-visits-abiodun-predicts-oil-discovery-in-ogun/
Weird that he is not quoted as saying that. His quote says something different completely, that is just the interpretation of the journalist whom is biased.
The Olu was saying that all Nigerians are one.
He doesn't say his kingdom is part of "Yoruba nation", he makes a clear distinction between his kingdom and "Yoruba nation".
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Elliotwaveforec: 3:23pm On Jul 01, 2023
Stoplying:
Go and take your medication. You've lost your mind again.
We do not care about your numbers, we do not care about your people. We are not with you, wish us all the evil you can, it won't change a thing. Besides you don't even know us. All you know are some stupid fairytales which talk about us.
Below is a Precolonial map of Benin.
We are not what you think we are. But again, you do not know us. Anybody who wants to annex us should give it a try and see how it pens out for his people. In this case it is a Yoruba who wants an entirely other ethnic group to attack us. Attack by proxy, like the cowards you guys are. It is good you guys just keep making assumptions about us, when the war comes, you and your proxy will be defeated due to surprise effect among other things.

"We are many"-tribe struck again. To these guys it is all about how many they are. Meanwhile tiny Eritrea gave a bloody nose to Ethiopia, tiny Japan humiliated China, tint Rome took over all of Europe except Russia. Tint Rwanda humiliates Congo on a regular basis. Tiny Cameroon took bakassi from Nigeria...yeah, it is all about how many you are 🤣 tiny Afghanistan dealt with: the UK, Russia, and the USA.
But this is just typical of the yoruba who love to call themselves "sophisticated", they are overemotional and evil minded.
Binidiot, can you fight a war? Only Ijesha, a Yoruba subgroup, could have annexed that village through Ogedengbe; your Oba had to beg him with valuables.

Ogedengbe, the husband of Akokos and Ekitis.

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Stoplying:
Elliotwaveforec:
Binidiot, can you fight a war? Only Ijesha, a Yoruba subgroup, could have annexed that village through Ogedengbe; your Oba had to beg him with valuables.

Ogedengbe, the husband of Akokos and Ekitis.
You guys believe in your fairytales way too much.
If Ogedengbe was that strong, then why was he so poor as can be seen in where he lives.
Show me proof of the Oba "begging" Ogedengbe.
And let me get this right: Benin did not beg the British, Benin fought the British, ijesha gave up to the British without a fight, but somehow Benin begged an ijesha man according to your fairytale?
Does this make sense?

Let me remind you that the region was infested with Europeans who loved writing what they saw in that period of time, so please show me an eyewitness written record which proves your claim.

Your people always confuse fairytales with history.

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by demmie1: 3:26pm On Jul 01, 2023
Efewestern:
Awolowo was too pro-Yoruba to be a leader in a diverse region like West. He only dived into the Olu Tussle because of Itsekiri's Yoruba link/ancestry. A suicidal political move that cost him a lot. He also allocated more to Ibadan with less population than Benin with higher population. His only political allies were mainly from the Itsekiri stock, that's to tell you how pro-Yoruba he's. People like Rewane stood by him till the end, while political gladiators from Urhobo/Benin rallied with Azikiwe who was also trying to weaken Awo's growing influences.

Also, you are wrong with the quoted. Awolowo never instigated the COR demand for separation. The minorities in the then Eastern region were already demanding for a separate region and the removal of Eyo-Eta strengthened their resolve for their independence. Minorities had no good anywhere. It was hell everywhere. Those in Northern received the highest slaps of injustice.

We don't want to open the cankerworm of the past, but if we are to, then we should speak the truth at all time.
Pls let's open everything. If anyone has more bring it and quote a viable source not lies or my papa say
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Raskimonojendor: 3:29pm On Jul 01, 2023
Emmanuelcann:
Interesting piece! "Restore the study of History in Nigerian schools!"
I gladly support this. History is rich.

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by demmie1: 3:30pm On Jul 01, 2023
Stoplying:
You guys believe in your fairytales way too much.
If Ogedengbe was that strong, then why was he so poor as can be seen in where he lives.
Show me prove of the Obz "begging" Ogedengbe.
Definitely you are brainless. Ogedengbe lived 150yrs ago do you want him to pose in front of a skyscraper wearing Gucci? The way you people refuse to think before spilling your ignorance is dispicable
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Christistruth00:
Stoplying:
Weird that he is not quoted as saying that. His quote says something different completely, that is just the interpretation of the journalist whom is biased.
The Olu was saying that all Nigerians are one.
He doesn't say his kingdom is part of "Yoruba nation", he makes a clear distinction between his kingdom and "Yoruba nation".
Olu of Warri was Quoted Saying exactly that, he was even on Television Saying it to Gov Abiodun of Ogun

He explained that his visit was to identify with the people of Yorubaland, as Warri people regard themselves as part of the Yoruba stock"

Do you know the Itsekiri are part of Egbe Omo Odua and OPC Yoruba organisations ?

itsekiri is a recognised Yoruba dialect

https://dailypost.ng/2022/03/30/olu-of-warri-visits-abiodun-predicts-oil-discovery-in-ogun/
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Stoplying:
demmie1:
Definitely you are brainless. Ogedengbe lived 150yrs ago do you want him to pose in front of a skyscraper wearing Gucci? The way you people refuse to think before spilling your ignorance is dispicable
Look, that "house" is that of a poor man compared to the likes of this:

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Raskimonojendor: 3:32pm On Jul 01, 2023
gidgiddy:
The country has long being divided since 1960, its too late in the day to saying the obvious
Much earlier before 1960.

https://www.nairaland.com/7629122/nnamdi-azikwe-really-bigot-tribalistic
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by demmie1: 3:33pm On Jul 01, 2023
Stoplying:
Weird that he is not quoted as saying that. His quote says something different completely, that is just the interpretation of the journalist whom is biased.
The Olu was saying that all Nigerians are one.
He doesn't say his kingdom is part of "Yoruba nation", he makes a clear distinction between his kingdom and "Yoruba nation".
Yet he sends delegates to Yoruba congresses and meetings every year
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Goodvibes007: 3:37pm On Jul 01, 2023
Emmanuelcann:
Interesting piece! "Restore the study of History in Nigerian schools!" Is my response. A beclouded past creates an uncertain future!
Not at all interested in the stupid tribal war being fought in nairaland by the minions of the criminals ruling and ruining our lives called "politicians!" Majority of the politicians in Africa are nothing more than the most brazen crooks in our midst!
Raskimonojendor:
I gladly support this. History is rich.
I agree history needs to be brought back.

For example, not many Nigerians knew that the Itsekiri and the Benin sold ibos as slaves.

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by demmie1: 3:43pm On Jul 01, 2023
Ezeama400:
Only you will accuse Igbos of being an aggressor, marginalizing and dealing with minorities, only you will turn around again and start saying that Igbos are victims of minorities..

Look at what hate has done to your brain and psyche..smh
See this is why everybody see ibos as a problem. You cannot just reason right.

We are talking history before Nigeria existed but see where you dragged it to. I don't really blame you for the ignorance because ibo history begins with Nigeria not before
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Raskimonojendor: 3:46pm On Jul 01, 2023
Ttalk:
@ OP is that the reason why Igbo want to kolobi SS land?

For clarity post the pics of your dead Biafra and let's see who is oppressing who.

You can't rewrite history as no SSner will want to have anything to do with the SE, no amount of toasting will make that happen.

When the presidency is rotated back to the South that's when all these paparazzi will fall on your face.

So far the SS have been playing their political game intelligently and would likely get the presidency when it comes back to the South, what then becomes of all these egotistical chest beating?
In Nigerian politics, the ibos have now been relegated behind the SS. Everything the tribalist Azikiwe fought for gone into the dustbin. They were even actively trying to stop The Akwa Ibom guy from becoming the Senate President and instead camped with a northerner.

The current crop of Ibo politicians are as dumb as a door knob. The fools are not even United.

Decades after the failed Biafran mission that was doomed from the get go, they are still trying to attach the SS to their failed project. They can't even get Ebonyi state into their Biafrian failed mission let alone toast other tribes from the SS.

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Stoplying: 3:49pm On Jul 01, 2023
Goodvibes007:
I agree history needs to be brought back.

For example, not many Nigerians knew that the Itsekiri and the Benin sold ibos as slaves.
So Reno omokri was there to witness it ? Or he brought proof ? Nope.
Reno is just one guy with his opinion which is not worth more than anyone else's opinion.
If he came out with proof however, then I would believe him.
Everybody was selling everybody, each war created slaves who used to be used locally for labour, but started being sold to Europeans. The Egba were created by escapee slaves for example. The ijo who were mostly pirates used to ambush and sell Jebu people.
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Elliotwaveforec: 3:58pm On Jul 01, 2023
Stoplying:
You guys believe in your fairytales way too much.
If Ogedengbe was that strong, then why was he so poor as can be seen in where he lives.
Show me prove of the Obz "begging" Ogedengbe.
And let me get this right: Benin did 'ot beg the British, Benin fought the British, ijesha gave up to the British without a fight, but somehow Benin begged an ijesha man according to your fairytale?
Does this make sense?

Let me remind you that the region was infested with Europeans who loved writing what they saw in that period of time, so please show me an eyewitness written record which proves your claim.

Your people always confuse fairytales with history.
Truly, you're an idiot (Binidiot).

Now, go home and ask your grandparents about what transpired between Ogedengbe and Oba of Benin.
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Stoplying:
Elliotwaveforec:
Truly, you're an idiot (Binidiot).

Now, go home and ask your grandparents about what transpired between Ogedengbe and Oba of Benin.
My grandparents are not 150 years old. Neither are yours.
The way things work when you are not retarded is that you bring out eyewitness written documents which prove your claim.
But you have none because you are a liar peddling your ethnic fairytale.
Also, do you think you are the first Yoruba whom I've seen bringing up this same fairytale?
You guys have fanatical beliefs in your fairytales and think you can transmit that belief to others.
I'm a logical person, I need proof, especially when you are saying that an average man who was less wealthy then the average Benin man could pose a threat to Benin empire which was extremely wealthy and could raise a 300000 man army in a very short period of time.

Also why Benin which was a war loving empire would beg a nobody is beyond me. And why someone would stop his invasion because he was begged is also beyond me.

You could make all this very clear by just providing eyewitness written records which prove your claim. But you have none, only fairytales told by drunk and stupid yarr.iba.

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by 43Ronin: 4:11pm On Jul 01, 2023
Ezeama400:
Create a topic for that ... Face the topic and stop deviating

This thread includes how Oba of Benini was locked outside because he came late and treated with disdain in western traditional rulers council dominated by Yoruba traditional rulers..

The creation of mid-western region was vehemently opposed by Awolowo and the western region even though Awolowo worked tirelessly for and supported the creation of the Calabar-Ogoja-Rivers (COR) region to be carved out from the Eastern region.

With the oil rich region now independent from Ibadan and the discovery of large deposits of crude in Rivers, Awolowo's western region would have been the poorest region after the secession of Biafra and Mid-West Region.

This is the sole reason Awolowo renegaded on his declaration to secede once Biafra leaves


Thank God for Azikiwe's intervention that liberated mid West..

Average SW person hates hearing this..
modified wrong quote bro
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by 43Ronin: 4:21pm On Jul 01, 2023
Kapeter:
You nor even sabi quote well. Pained akpu muncher. grin grin Yorubas never have any problem giving freedom to people that are never part of us. The wqhole world knows the "we SS/SE group. grin grin And stop lying, Adaka Baro only wanted out of yeastern region and never from azukawere one nijeriya. Stop lying.
you always spew lies as history why? Adaka boro was seeking the independence of Ijaw nation from Nigeria not from SE. And what did Aguiyu ironsi do wrong? He did his work as a soldier by putting down the rebellion, same thing he did to the first 1966 coup plotters. Adaka Boro along with the 1966 coup plotters were also jailed and being tried for treason before Ironsi was killed. History is not being taught in schools because people are wiser now and will tell who the actual fault of the civil war was. Adaka boro was eventually killed by the Adekunle(Black scorpion) after he realised that thr civil war was about the extermination of his people alongside the igbos. The Asaba massacre brought him back to his senses.
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by 43Ronin: 4:24pm On Jul 01, 2023
Raskimonojendor:
In Nigerian politics, the ibos have now been relegated behind the SS. Everything the tribalist Azikiwe fought for gone into the dustbin. They were even actively trying to stop The Akwa Ibom guy from becoming the Senate President and instead camped with a northerner.

The current crop of Ibo politicians are as dumb as a door knob. The fools are not even United.

Decades after the failed Biafran mission that was doomed from the get go, they are still trying to attach the SS to their failed project. They can't even get Ebonyi state into their Biafrian failed mission let alone toast other tribes from the SS.
But an ebonyi man is the current leader of IPOB and the dreaded ESN. keep fooling yourselves.

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Stoplying: 4:30pm On Jul 01, 2023
43Ronin:
But an ebonyi man is the current leader of IPOB and the dreaded ESN. keep fooling yourselves.
Although ipob is a bunch of bastar.ds and that its leaders is a hore and a son of a b.itch.
You guys need to stop supporting ipob or make it clear that they represent you, so that we no longer waste our time with believing you are better then ipob.
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Christistruth00: 4:41pm On Jul 01, 2023
Stoplying:
Look, that "house" is that of a poor man compared to the likes of this:
Deji of Akure’s 869-year-old palace: A cultural, historical masterpiece like no other
https://tribuneonlineng.com/deji-of-akures-869-year-old-palace-a-cultural-historical-masterpiece-like-no-other/

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Stoplying: 4:44pm On Jul 01, 2023
Christistruth00:
Deji of Akure’s 869-year-old palace: A cultural, historical masterpiece like no other
https://tribuneonlineng.com/deji-of-akures-869-year-old-palace-a-cultural-historical-masterpiece-like-no-other/
That "palace" was made with cement, it is not 869 years old, it was built in the colonial or post colonial era.
You are always deluded.
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Af0NjaAreLiars: 4:52pm On Jul 01, 2023
Stoplying:
That "palace" was made with cement, it is not 869 years old, it was built in the colonial or post colonial era.
You are always deluded.
imagine o cheesy

With Thier choice BROWN ROOF grin grin
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Af0NjaAreLiars: 4:53pm On Jul 01, 2023
43Ronin:
you always spew lies as history why? Adaka boro was seeking the independence of Ijaw nation from Nigeria not from SE. And what did Aguiyu ironsi do wrong? He did his work as a soldier by putting down the rebellion, same thing he did to the first 1966 coup plotters. Adaka Boro along with the 1966 coup plotters were also jailed and being tried for treason before Ironsi was killed. History is not being taught in schools because people are wiser now and will tell who the actual fault of the civil war was. Adaka boro was eventually killed by the Adekunle(Black scorpion) after he realised that thr civil war was about the extermination of his people alongside the igbos. The Asaba massacre brought him back to his senses.
Spot on!

These guys lie with ease
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Efewestern: 4:53pm On Jul 01, 2023
demmie1:
Pls let's open everything. If anyone has more bring it and quote a viable source not lies or my papa say
What source do you need? That Benin was suppressed and received less allocations? Or that Awolowo got himself into the Warri entanglement because of tribal affiliations? Or that the minorities in Western region weren't oppressed? None of these are hearsay. They are raw facts.

I'm not here to demonize or praise anyone. Nigeria is a very peculiar country. Our differences and diversities can be a valid reason why people act in certain way.

Like I have hinted. Awolowo was too pro-Yoruba. Probably one of the most dedicated Yoruba politician. Azikiwe was more a nationalist but when he received reality shock, he crawled back to his tribal enclave.
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Af0NjaAreLiars: 5:00pm On Jul 01, 2023
Raskimonojendor:
In Nigerian politics, the ibos have now been relegated behind the SS. Everything the tribalist Azikiwe fought for gone into the dustbin. They were even actively trying to stop The Akwa Ibom guy from becoming the Senate President and instead camped with a northerner.

The current crop of Ibo politicians are as dumb as a door knob. The fools are not even United.

Decades after the failed Biafran mission that was doomed from the get go, they are still trying to attach the SS to their failed project. They can't even get Ebonyi state into their Biafrian failed mission let alone toast other tribes from the SS.
Same people that hate themselves cheesy


Una Muslim Christian and traditionalists fight how is it even going grin grin

I'll continue to expose your lies here

That's why the ones in kogis denied them grin

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Af0NjaAreLiars: 5:14pm On Jul 01, 2023
Raskimonojendor:
I gladly support this. History is rich.
Everything said there were mere speculation a whiteman way of making black look less human

Igbos Made one of the best bronze work of that time in Igbo-ukwu art go and check them out

We built monuments in nsude pyramids ụdị Enugu State


To wrap it up

Igbos were literates we read and write in nsibidi
A kind of writing slightly related to the Egyptian hieroglyphics

Nsibidi writing are dated as far back as 2000Bc according to acheologists

While your ancestors were being chased by women from Dahomey grin grin


Below are some igbo names written in nsịbịdị

The other is Akagu a modern version of the nsibidi

We no be Una mate


We have been pushing that nsibidi writing be taught in SE hopefully by 2030 it will be implemented

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Lifestone(m): 5:17pm On Jul 01, 2023
Ezeama400:
Create a topic for that ... Face the topic and stop deviating

This thread includes how Oba of Benini was locked outside because he came late and treated with disdain in western traditional rulers council dominated by Yoruba traditional rulers..

The creation of mid-western region was vehemently opposed by Awolowo and the western region even though Awolowo worked tirelessly for and supported the creation of the Calabar-Ogoja-Rivers (COR) region to be carved out from the Eastern region.

With the oil rich region now independent from Ibadan and the discovery of large deposits of crude in Rivers, Awolowo's western region would have been the poorest region after the secession of Biafra and Mid-West Region.

This is the sole reason Awolowo renegaded on his declaration to secede once Biafra leaves


Thank God for Azikiwe's intervention that liberated mid West..

Average SW person hates hearing this..
But you didn't indicated that a Majekodunmi eventually willingly agreed to Midwestern Region creation.
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by ablejesus26(m): 5:21pm On Jul 01, 2023
Tunde835:
Please tell me why are you IPOBs obsessed with Yorùbás.
Shut up, I no dey follow una dey do senseless ipob talk.

Your problem is not ipob, Your problem is that You can never exist without tribal hate, You would have committed suicide due to frustration if to say nairaland no give You room to exhume the Tribal hate wey Your creator send You come this life come do.

Look for ipob niggas make them help You do tribal banters,my own na to call out shameless tribalist like You.
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Vinnie2000(m): 5:22pm On Jul 01, 2023
Efewestern:
What source do you need? That Benin was suppressed and received less allocations? Or that Awolowo got himself into the Warri entanglement because of tribal affiliations? Or that the minorities in Western region weren't oppressed? None of these are hearsay. They are raw facts.

I'm not here to demonize or praise anyone. Nigeria is a very peculiar country. Our differences and diversities can be a valid reason why people act in certain way.

Like I have hinted. Awolowo was too pro-Yoruba. Probably one of the most dedicated Yoruba politician. Azikiwe was more a nationalist but when he received reality shock, he crawled back to his tribal enclave.
He remained a Nationalist till Death,Bro. sad

In 1979, His Party NPP won Election in Faraway Plateau state. (Solomon Lar). 🤨🙂

He was called Zik of Africa and was NOT a Ethnic Warlord Politician like Buhari, Awolowo and Tinubu.
He was Pan-Nigerian like the current day Peter Obi. 😊😎
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Vinnie2000(m): 5:26pm On Jul 01, 2023
A Thread exposing how Awolowo and his AG party tried to Cheat Delta and Edo pple of Midwest region. 😕😒

But I see some FOOLS here yarping about Igbos, slave trade and cannibalism. shocked sad

Igbos Hatred will ruin them in Real life! undecided
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Efewestern: 5:29pm On Jul 01, 2023
Vinnie2000:
He remained a Nationalist till Death,Bro. sad

In 1979, His Party NPP won Election in Faraway Plateau state. (Solomon Lar). 🤨🙂

He was called Zik of Africa and was NOT a Ethnic Warlord Politician like Buhari, Awolowo and Tinubu.
He was Pan-Nigerian like the current day Peter Obi. 😊😎
I know he was a nationalist. He didn't see things through tribal lens, but after he got rubbished by tribal supremacists he crawled back home. The case of the removal of Eyo-Eta was a great example.

Yes Obi is more a nationalist than any of the contenders. He never exploited his tribal affiliations like others did.
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