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Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 9:53am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: At least you have admitted that they indeed bowed, all other things you said are off point. paxonel: Correction: Catholic creation of monuments depicting some Christian notables (as separate from catholic notables eg their father Tansi, Augustine etc) which they idolized. paxonel: Now you even know you are lying for they have many prayers to saint this, st that eg prayers to mary, joseph, then prayer to mary and joseph, benedict, dominic etc The way you are trying to defend this just clearly shows that you are catholic. Obviously, pastor chris don tire you. |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by paxonel(m): 9:57am On Jul 02, 2023 |
vdestro:you mentioned stealing, adultery and murder. How does this relate to Catholics bowing to images? You can arrest someone for stealing, how many Catholics have they arrested for bowing down to images? Therefore, your points do not follow all am saying is, if you have a better argument, present it well and i will be on your side, I'm not a catholic For the purpose transparency Luke 24:50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them. Luke 24:51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven. What's this? How does this relate? |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 10:13am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: I said it up, and you saw it where i said "same Law"!. You are just trying to see if you can find something to say since you have nothing, as i told you, there is nothing for you to say. paxonel: Off point! Arrest is not the point (for if the authorities do not arresr you, it does not mean you have not broken The Law. And lo, people have not been arrested for coveting, yet it is in breach of The Law. As i said, there is nothing valid for you to say paxonel: O oh! I hate phone typing. I meant Luke 23; 50/51 Here it is 50Now there was a man named Joseph, from the Jewish town of Arimathea. He was a member of the council, a good and righteous man, 51[b]who had not consented to their decision and action[/b] |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by paxonel(m): 10:15am On Jul 02, 2023 |
vdestro:I don't know what you gain in causing division in the body of Christ. But i know you have a long way to go, na you go tire last last. Cathalic church as a sect in Christianity has been in existence long before you were born and nothing will change that. The same with winners chapel, Rccg, Christ Embassy, Presbyterian, Anglican, celestial church, mountain of fire, etc. You know what your problem is? Oyinbo carry religion were you nor fit understand come Africa, you carry the religion put for head without understanding. See am now, e dey cause division among Africans |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 10:20am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: They are not part of the body of Christ, so i definitely would not allow it to be said that they are. By their fruits, we know them and worse for them, i was in their numbers and like joseph of Arimithea, i did not consent to their activities. |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by AntiChristian: 10:20am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel:Most Bible translators used the word "worshipped" and not "bowed" what the Maggians did for Jesus! They were like Zoroastrians who worshipped stars, Ahura Mazda, etc. So why was bowing/prostration translated as worship by so many if not all Bible translators particularly when Jesus is involved? But now you're reinterpreting your own bowing not to mean worship but honor?
Where verse in the Bible points to "hail Mary full of Grace the Lord is with..... Holy Mary, mother of God pray for all sinners.... Which Bible verses support the believe that saints (eg. Saint Ignatius of Loyola, etc) are alive today? How can we verify them being alive? Is there any difference between an Ogun worshipper who bows for Iron, recite incantation, believes it can help him and the Catholics rituals? |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by paxonel(m): 10:29am On Jul 02, 2023 |
vdestro:OK, I understand what you are saying, that Joseph of Arimathea a good man compared to other members of the council. That not withstanding, he was still a member of the council right? |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 10:37am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: "Though we are in the world, we are not of the world!" Though we are with them, we are not with them |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by mjuvey3: 10:40am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Lol The Catholic church is the mother of all false churches all around the world. A church where Mary & Saint Peter is more regarded than Jesus Christ. Where did Jesus Christ or any of the Apostles says you should honor saints? Have you ever seen a Jew bow down to an Image of Abraham or Moses? It is easier to convince a Boko Haram member to leave terrorism than to convince a Brainwashed religious person to quit believing a lie & wrong doctrines. |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by paxonel(m): 10:58am On Jul 02, 2023 |
AntiChristian:you know, evolution of languages occurs over time. The words worship and bow meant the same thing as they applies in those verses. But may be some translators decides to use the word worship more when it comes to bowing to Jesus because, they intended to maintain the Lordship of Jesus towards human worship which does not necessarily apply to those verses in reality, if you have a critical study of them. hail Mary isn't the same as worship Mary. All these mass processional statements or whatever are simply historical. It seems they were something of the ancient Roman empire people saying. Hail the emperor! Hail the emperor! They later infused it into Christianity It is certainly not from the bible
John 3:16 ... that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. there is nothing to verify. All we do is believe. That's why we have faith no difference! rituals, rituals, rituals, they are all rituals. Rituals is characteristics of religion you know |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by paxonel(m): 11:12am On Jul 02, 2023 |
vdestro:this is exactly what i tried to explain when i said the human mind cannot be predicted by what they do. Joseph was with them, at the same time his mind was with Christ. It was the same Joseph that provided the tomb where Jesus was burried? That is to tell you that his mind was totally for Christ |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by DaddyCoool: 11:29am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: Thanks. Except the bible SPECIFICALLY says do not bow to graven images |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by DaddyCoool: 11:33am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Nsogbu001: The bible SPECIFICALLY says do not bow to graven images. It says nothing against bowing to the elderly |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by davinchecodes(m): 12:12pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
vdestro:That includes humans |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by Kobojunkie: 4:06pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
davinchecodes:So also has prostitution. Do you have a point of sorts? |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 8:18pm On Jul 03, 2023 |
paxonel: Remember it is written by their fruits... |
Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 8:19pm On Jul 03, 2023 |
davinchecodes: Also includes goats and lizards and iroko tree. |
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