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Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by TemplarLandry: 10:26am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Okay brother. You sound reasonable so I'll further engage in this discourse with you. Peradventure Biaffra is actualized, the guerrillas will easily conquer South-South states for 2 reasons: 1) So the purported Biafran territory will be well defined on the map, to correct the Amoeba map the proposed Biaffra nation has. 2) The need for resources: The Biafrans want the oil money for themselves alone, hence the conquest of Delta, Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and CR. Razgas: |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Nobody: 10:27am On Jul 08, 2023 |
mrvitalis:Yes. Igboland and Israel are similar in that aspect. a lot of isreali diaspora that brought money back when it became independent developed the country faster than it would have otherwise 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Nobody: 10:28am On Jul 08, 2023 |
TemplarLandry:but global politics doesn't work that way. Small countries don't just invade big countries. Do you see Lesotho invading south Africa to conquer zululand? 6 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by TemplarLandry: 10:29am On Jul 08, 2023 |
No ideal country exists within another sovereign nation. Do the math. gidgiddy: |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by gidgiddy: 10:31am On Jul 08, 2023 |
A lot of people dont know that there are two different countries inside Italy, Republic of San Marino and Vatican city Swaziland could even be agued to be inside South Africa 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by TemplarLandry: 10:33am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Lol. To access the ocean, you'll need to ask for permission from some South-South states to pass through their borders, and they hold the right to deny you access. And I trust your guerilla nature. Razgas: 2 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by gidgiddy: 10:35am On Jul 08, 2023 |
TemplarLandry: Nobody cares about ideal, what matters is if you have your independence and is recognised by the UN as a sovereign country. South Africa is one of the richest countries in Africa but Lesotho chose to be independent and run its own affairs rather than surrender control to South Africa 7 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Ugwuoke347(m): 10:35am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Razgas: I like your spirit. There shall be no conflict. We will see to that. Biafra and Nigeria or her surviving nations shall become friends and good neighbours with robust multilateral trading co-operation in place. Intense efforts shall be made to promote co-operation and friendship. That there was war does not mean we should remain foes forever. We should bear in mind that we are primarily Black Africans. Our Blackness loads us with a sacred duty to strongly push for friendship and brotherhood among all Black African Nations. I personally trust strongly that the right crop of men with the right attitude will take charge; men seasoned by natural wisdom, conciliatory politeness and deliberate diplomacy. We must deradicalize our people so that they understand that we seek freedom from Nigeria, and not enmity. The goal is to assert independence from the Nigerian State. We do not seek to become her eternal enemy. An independent Biafra shall be a big plus to Nigeria and all her surviving states, nay; the whole of Black Africa. This is hinged on the fact that Biafra shall definitely do business with Nigeria and all the post-Nigeria states that will emerge from her. There shall be mutual relations, intense co-operation and robust exchanges. We are clearly geographically well-knitted and carefully positioned by nature to co-operate intensely with one another. Enough of the bitterness and scare-mongering. We will definitely do mightily good as friends and good neighbours. We have all the capacity to do so. That is exactly what we are meant to do judging from all that has happened right from the dawn of the 1914 amalgamation till date. 8 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by TemplarLandry: 10:38am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Funny. What concerns embittered Biaffrans with International ethics?? They will enslave South-south and discriminate against them. They even see their fellow Abakaliki people as inferior. Razgas: 2 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by kettykings: 10:40am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Nobody is talking about the farmland to feed 50 million people no doubt Biafra will be a military, technology and economic power in Africa. How on earth would we feed 50 million heavy eaters , most of them eat 5 times a day and drink as much. When you answer this question then Biafra is 95% achieved 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by TemplarLandry: 10:43am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Well, let me burst your bubble, no Biaffra for you. Nigerian map has been cemented in the world's map by Jehovah. No secession. Write this down. gidgiddy: |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Nobody: 10:44am On Jul 08, 2023 |
TemplarLandry:you said I was reasonable. Are you? 11 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Kossyso: 10:47am On Jul 08, 2023 |
kettykings:I can't help but laugh at thisππ. 6 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by TemplarLandry: 10:47am On Jul 08, 2023 |
I'm close to that. Razgas: |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Unbiased1: 10:47am On Jul 08, 2023 |
kettykings: Even Nigeria with her huge landmass can't feed all it's citizens. No country on earth can even feed all it's citizens. Biafrans can import food and still grow some. This shouldn't be an issue. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by gidgiddy: 10:48am On Jul 08, 2023 |
TemplarLandry: Thats what is called unity begging, the inability to do without someone who wants to go his way The problem with that is that if you hold people against their will, there will never be peace. It will be constant fight forever 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Unbiased1: 10:49am On Jul 08, 2023 |
TemplarLandry: Please contribute meaningfully to this topic na. What is the meaning of all these hate you have been spreading here? 7 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Nobody: 10:53am On Jul 08, 2023 |
kettykings:50 million people from where? Even the official figure of 21.7 million is highly inflated. Our population is closer to 17 million than 21. How do I know? Google earth π you can see real images of cities. Compare Nigerian cities (our last census was in 2006 and we keep poor records) with south African cities. Also check voter registers. Also check registered phone numbers. Anybody who doesn't know how inflated the Nigerian population is should not argue politics with anyone. However talking about feeding people, how does Singapore do it? It is smaller than the smallest local government in Enugu but it has over 5 million verified people. I will tell you how....high yield indoor farming plus importation 5 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by kettykings: 10:57am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Unbiased1: I am not talking about the failed titanic nigerian project with its uselessly good for nothing leaders , I am talking about Biafra and food security 2 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Nobody: 10:57am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Ugwuoke347:I like reasoning with people like you. Reasonable! 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by TemplarLandry: 10:58am On Jul 08, 2023 |
The wonders God wants to do with Nigeria, eyes have not seen them, ears have not heard them. I implore my Ibo brothers to jettison the pains the Civil War caused. Nigeria will be great! gidgiddy: 2 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by kettykings: 10:59am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Razgas: Are you saying there will be no mass migration of igbos from the north back to the east and from Lagos back to the east, Israel is a typical country of about 8 million people that doesn't import food from hostile neighbors 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Cooly100: 11:01am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Razgas: ..and remember you are analysing this based on what you have as its today... When you do the same review in 10 - 20 years...when most investments in the small region would start bearing fruit... It will surpass Niger by very wide margin... I don't know why Ohaneze are against Asari... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Purvan(m): 11:01am On Jul 08, 2023 |
The only way Biafra would happen is if it's taken by force and we aren't ready for that. |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Cooly100: 11:03am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Isokotolopia: How? Once bilateral agreements are followed.. There wont be any issue... We should all rest from bitter hate and distrust...among us. We can be equal partners... 3 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Cooly100: 11:05am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Razgas: That Yoruba boy is scared... 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Nobody: 11:05am On Jul 08, 2023 |
kettykings:the population of igbos actually living in igboland is not up to 17 million. How do I know? Look at the 2022 voter register (not pvc collection) south east had 11.5 million. That includes people like me living abroad currently and dead igbos. Plus foreigners living in the east that registered. If every igbo person came back to the east from all over the world, we would still not be up to 25 million. UK has the largest population of Nigerians outside Nigeria and it is still less than a million 4 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Cooly100: 11:09am On Jul 08, 2023 |
kettykings: Stop wasting time...There is no time you would have 50 million Igbos and foreigners in the region at the same time.... Many will still be in disapora... Stop begging 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by flokii: 11:09am On Jul 08, 2023 |
South East can't be an independent country because Igbos are not the only ethnic group there.. Anambra is largely Igala with so many Igala people living there who speak Igala language like their kiths and kins in Kogi State. When you get to Abakaliki in Ebonyi, you'll see they have their own dialect different from Igbo language so how will the separate country work?. The Igbos clamouring for separate country are still using Old Eastern region lens to look at the East today. Things have changed. You'll be having referendums and land tussles almost every day before anything can work. Honestly I feel Oyo indigenous population is more than the Igbo population in Nigeria, not to talk of combined Yoruba population in Western Nigeria. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Ugwuoke347(m): 11:09am On Jul 08, 2023 |
TemplarLandry: Don't you see that those lines are now stale and hackneyed. We do not seek non Igbo territories in the South-South. Take strong note of that. There is new understanding in town, namely: that Biafra is for Igbos and Igbos only. Biafra is Igboland; Igboland is Biafra. We are taking every part and all parts of Igboland with us right from Delta North, through Igbanke in Edo State down to the Igbo areas in Cross River State and Rivers State and every other Igboid parts of the South-South, and then right up to the land of the Umuezekohas in Benue State. We are taking every bit of our territories with us. We are Igbos and will remain so. We do not want to annex or assimilate other nations into the Biafran State. The goal is not to build an empire. The goal is to form a homogeneous nation with common sociocultural bond welding us together into a mighty force for great upbuilding in godly civilization and massive attainments in the higher pursuits of human development. We do not seek you nor your land and resources. We are taking only what belongs to us by Divine Ordinance! That is the new wisdom. Whatever map that Nnamdi Kanu published before now was only a friendly invitation to the ethnic nations of the South-South to form a confederacy with Biafra. They have since rejected it both in principle and in practice. And we are not unmindful of that. We have taken strong note of this reality, and reviewed our steps and stands. We mean well for everyone. We want the very best of peace and happiness for everyone. It is on account of this fact that we will go our way in peace and leave other non Igbo nations in the Niger Delta alone to chart their own course and decide a future for themselves uninfluenced. We do not want to Biafranize them. Let the fear fall away now. We will be good neighbours as we have always been right before the times of Jaja of Opobo. 18 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Cooly100: 11:11am On Jul 08, 2023 |
Purvan: Nope.. The only reason I see now..is that the elders and the elite ...mostly those who have investments in Nigeria, have not supported it. If they do it will happen peacefully... 3 Likes |
Re: If The South East Becomes An Independent Country by Cooly100: 11:14am On Jul 08, 2023 |
flokii: It's not true... Rest this man... You want Igbos to leave your land..yet you want them to stay... Everybody is tired of they negative energy generated by hate everywhere... You need to find another tribe to be measuing dickkkkkkks Who is taking about Oyo here? 11 Likes |
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