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Once there is agreement to option 1 (a and b) which might sound easy but is quite tough still then you can go ahead. A friend of mine went through and they have 2 children from 5 pregnancies and lost 3 due to a combination of the procedure and probability of SS.

The mother in law kept wanting them to have more than the 2 boys but my friend says they chose not to tell her the intricacies of their journey to the 2 cos they know she will play the God card.

Bolt458:
I am not writing this for religious people to come with their funny talks, I am just putting this out here to hear from people who might have tried this methods or who heard about this methods and still proceeded or did not. I want to hear your experience. I have been dating someone for 5 years now, it happened that I began to see her as someone I would want to spend my life with. Last year we did our genotype test and we were both AS. Now , I know some of you will say this should be the first thing you ask when you meet someone but c’mon, would you say people in university that are dating now, would ask their sef that question? That theory is only feasible when you are single and ready to get married and want to start a new relationship, then you can always ask, but we all know some of our relationships started when we no Dey even see marriage in the nearest future, all of a sudden you just see them as the right person and you take the bold step. Now, I had to meet my family doctor here in Canada, I explained to him my current situation and he referred me to a GENETIC COUNSELOR. I am trying to take the necessary steps cause I am not ready to bring in a child with Sickle cell to this world, and I am not leaving anything to faith. A fone appointment was set with the counselor and we spoke at length. She told me that in every foetus, there is a 25% chance that we can get an SS child. Now , how do we mitigate this percentage to the barest minimum I asked as I am not even ready to bring in a sickler to this world. She gave me three options, I would rather say two because the last involves test when the baby comes, and that is out of the question.

Option 1:
A) CVS: They take a sample of the fluid in the womb through her vagina, at 12 weeks to test, if it’s good then fine, if not we have to terminate.

OR

B) At 16 weeks, they take the fluid using a needle directly from her womb, and if it’s SS , they terminate. Both procedures are cover by the government and we don’t need to pay a dime.

Now, she assured me that abortion is a very safe procedure if done properly, and it is even a bigger risk that one can die from a penicillin injection or carrying a pregnancy to term than any harm during an abortion.I know many people would come here and say abortion is this and that but let us be frank to ourselves. If you were told that the child in your womb would have cerebral palsy, or Down syndrome or a neurological disorder, would you still keep that pregnancy? Is there a 100% assurance that two AA people would give birth to a healthy baby? I have come to a realization that pregnancy is just a risk that people take, cus you really don’t know how your child would turn out.


Option 2:
PGD. This is just like IVF, where they would select the genotype before they insert back to the womb. She told me the government doesn’t cover this, and it could cost between $10K- $40k. However she mentioned, just like IVf, it is not guaranteed as it can fail and your money is gone.

I discussed this with my girl in Nigeria and she said she was fine with option 1a. I then asked her, that if the first, second are SS would she still remove it. She accepted. I would not lie to you, this girl is everything I want in a woman. I am not just looking at just love because I know love fades with time, but she is a really nice person, and has a good character. She has always been like this from my days in Nigeria because I was with her before I moved outside. Now after finding out our genotype, I tried to get into a relationship with AA. The first one Dey nigeria, she is a nice person, beautiful, but I just didn’t like her or feel attracted to her. She got tire and we just free ourselves, the second one is here in Canada, I just don’t like this one . Please note, I never slept with any of these ladies because I feel it’s not fair.


Now my question is for those who knew all this and still proceeded, how did it work out for you?

I repeat, don’t come here to tell me about how abortion is this and dat. Cus I know if they tell any of you that your child would be abnormal, 90% of you will go for the abortion

Bolt458

How could cost between $10K- $40k?

IVF is not as high as that

jikins:
Funny thing is same logic applies to all the other occurrences, they can have 10 children and all are AA or AS. Life isn't only black we should not gloss over the white parts because we are scared of the dark parts

That's why I adviced him to transfer his risk. If he has a strong risk appetite he wouldn't come to this platform for opinions. Life is not a game of kalo-kalo especially a game that can be avoided.

Bolt458:
I am not writing this for religious people to come with their funny talks, I am just putting this out here to hear from people who might have tried this methods or who heard about this methods and still proceeded or did not. I want to hear your experience. I have been dating someone for 5 years now, it happened that I began to see her as someone I would want to spend my life with. Last year we did our genotype test and we were both AS. Now , I know some of you will say this should be the first thing you ask when you meet someone but c’mon, would you say people in university that are dating now, would ask their sef that question? That theory is only feasible when you are single and ready to get married and want to start a new relationship, then you can always ask, but we all know some of our relationships started when we no Dey even see marriage in the nearest future, all of a sudden you just see them as the right person and you take the bold step. Now, I had to meet my family doctor here in Canada, I explained to him my current situation and he referred me to a GENETIC COUNSELOR. I am trying to take the necessary steps cause I am not ready to bring in a child with Sickle cell to this world, and I am not leaving anything to faith. A fone appointment was set with the counselor and we spoke at length. She told me that in every foetus, there is a 25% chance that we can get an SS child. Now , how do we mitigate this percentage to the barest minimum I asked as I am not even ready to bring in a sickler to this world. She gave me three options, I would rather say two because the last involves test when the baby comes, and that is out of the question.

Option 1:
A) CVS: They take a sample of the fluid in the womb through her vagina, at 12 weeks to test, if it’s good then fine, if not we have to terminate.

OR

B) At 16 weeks, they take the fluid using a needle directly from her womb, and if it’s SS , they terminate. Both procedures are cover by the government and we don’t need to pay a dime.

Now, she assured me that abortion is a very safe procedure if done properly, and it is even a bigger risk that one can die from a penicillin injection or carrying a pregnancy to term than any harm during an abortion.I know many people would come here and say abortion is this and that but let us be frank to ourselves. If you were told that the child in your womb would have cerebral palsy, or Down syndrome or a neurological disorder, would you still keep that pregnancy? Is there a 100% assurance that two AA people would give birth to a healthy baby? I have come to a realization that pregnancy is just a risk that people take, cus you really don’t know how your child would turn out.


Option 2:
PGD. This is just like IVF, where they would select the genotype before they insert back to the womb. She told me the government doesn’t cover this, and it could cost between $10K- $40k. However she mentioned, just like IVf, it is not guaranteed as it can fail and your money is gone.

I discussed this with my girl in Nigeria and she said she was fine with option 1a. I then asked her, that if the first, second are SS would she still remove it. She accepted. I would not lie to you, this girl is everything I want in a woman. I am not just looking at just love because I know love fades with time, but she is a really nice person, and has a good character. She has always been like this from my days in Nigeria because I was with her before I moved outside. Now after finding out our genotype, I tried to get into a relationship with AA. The first one Dey nigeria, she is a nice person, beautiful, but I just didn’t like her or feel attracted to her. She got tire and we just free ourselves, the second one is here in Canada, I just don’t like this one . Please note, I never slept with any of these ladies because I feel it’s not fair.


Now my question is for those who knew all this and still proceeded, how did it work out for you?

I repeat, don’t come here to tell me about how abortion is this and dat. Cus I know if they tell any of you that your child would be abnormal, 90% of you will go for the abortion

Stop giving yourself unnecessary stress, find another babe na So you will keep terminating your babies bcus you want a healthy child? There's no true love in marriage, by the time the adverse effects will start, you go know!

There are a lot more AS and if you had an SS in your family the genotype question would be one of the questions in the first three months. My experience is a lot of our men did not understand it and treated it like you are asking them if they are fertile and can have a child. I hope this has changed.

After asking which is the best and clearly not having taken a test they will say they are AA.

CaptainFM1:
That's why I adviced him to transfer his risk. If he has a strong risk appetite he wouldn't come to this platform for opinions. Life is not a game of kalo-kalo especially a game that can be avoided.

I disagree,

Life is a game of kalo kalo. That's why there's this saying go rich or go home. Everything is a risk. The AA girl if he finds 1 how sure he won't struggle with divorce, lgbtq stuffs with his children because his wife is promoting it with his kids.

Nothing is set in stone. But this risk is not as bad as you guys are putting it. Statically he has more chance getting a non SS child than an SS one. And he has options to take if he gets an SS child. And even ivf can get him a non SS child.

I know a couple in here in Nigeria AS AS. They did IVF and got a son few years ago. I just heard the wife is pregnant again through IVF.

Like I said life is black and white. We should look at it holistically. Not just throw away the white side because we are scared of the dark.

If he didn't have workable options I would concur with you, but he has options. So for me its a risk worth taking.

Don’t mind them as they measure everyone by their own standards. Once both of you are in agreement shikena.

Bolt458:
but this is someone I have been with before relocating to Canada. I have always had it in mind that she would join me. Left to her sef she prefer nigeria because it’s too cold here

jikins:
I disagree,

Life is a game of kalo kalo. That's why there's this saying go rich or go home. Everything is a risk. The AA girl if he finds 1 how sure he won't struggle with divorce, lgbtq stuffs with his children because his wife is promoting it with his kids.

Nothing is set in stone. But this risk is not as bad as you guys are putting it. Statically he has more chance getting a non SS child than an SS one. And he has options to take if he gets an SS child. And even ivf can get him a non SS child.

I know a couple in here in Nigeria AS AS. They did IVF and got a son few years ago. I just heard the wife is pregnant again through IVF.

Like I said life is black and white. We should look at it holistically. Not just throw away the white side because we are scared of the dark.

If he didn't have workable options I would concur with you, but he has options. So for me its a risk worth taking.

The choice is his anyway.

I've giving him my million dollars worth of advice. You're free to advice him.

Avast:
Se na by force to born

there are people who values children

So many ladies are desperately looking for a husband no matter the cost even if it will cost them their life. Were you expecting the lady in question to say no easily after spending five good years with the guy, the answer is no. I blame the guy for not finding out their genotypes first. When I met my girlfriend some years back, we discussed about our genotypes within the first month of our relationship together with our HIV/AIDS status.

Childfree:
Haven't you read what he wrote?
She is okay it. She willingly agree to it

haslaw:
Bolt458

How could cost between $10K- $40k?

IVF is not as high as that

Dey play

You have answered most of your questions by yourself, but practical is different from reality .
However in AS association the probability of having all 4 children as AA, AS, SS depends on luck there are some that there children are AS and AA ,but there is a case of a professor who had 3 of his children as SS .
The affirmative consent by the lady did not hold water ,she can turn around to tell you that she is ready to take care of the baby after delivery . There is nothing that people will not agreed to in desperation . Pray to God for guidance. I have seen SS woman that live above 60years but she is having crisis at intervals.

gassbee:
there are people who values children

I do too

abbey621:
Dey play

Converting $10K-$40K to Naira gives N7.6 million to N30.5 million


Which kind IVF you want do at over N30 million

Bolt458:
.

If you love her that much, marry her and adopt children.
Do not go the path you are planning.
If you do, both of you will experience psychological crisis at a point and the "I-asked-her-and-she's-ok-with-it" lines would become irrelevant.
There's a guilt that comes with having to terminate your own pregnancy. It has nothing to do with religion.
What if the foetus turns out SS 1st, 2nd and 3rd times?
Would you even have an erection to get her pregnant a 4th time?
What if she eventually speaks to someone?
What happens then?
Think very hard.
Do you really want to tow that path?
Trust me, it's 200 times more burdensome than you think.
A lot of things will come into play when events begin to unfold. Some of those things you may not have thought of.
I'm glad you are a realist and not one to rely on some miracle stuff.
It's better for you to use your tongue to count your teeth now.
This is just my sincere advice.

Bolt458:
I am not writing this for religious people to come with their funny talks, I am just putting this out here to hear from people who might have tried this methods or who heard about this methods and still proceeded or did not. I want to hear your experience. I have been dating someone for 5 years now, it happened that I began to see her as someone I would want to spend my life with. Last year we did our genotype test and we were both AS. Now , I know some of you will say this should be the first thing you ask when you meet someone but c’mon, would you say people in university that are dating now, would ask their sef that question? That theory is only feasible when you are single and ready to get married and want to start a new relationship, then you can always ask, but we all know some of our relationships started when we no Dey even see marriage in the nearest future, all of a sudden you just see them as the right person and you take the bold step. Now, I had to meet my family doctor here in Canada, I explained to him my current situation and he referred me to a GENETIC COUNSELOR. I am trying to take the necessary steps cause I am not ready to bring in a child with Sickle cell to this world, and I am not leaving anything to faith. A fone appointment was set with the counselor and we spoke at length. She told me that in every foetus, there is a 25% chance that we can get an SS child. Now , how do we mitigate this percentage to the barest minimum I asked as I am not even ready to bring in a sickler to this world. She gave me three options, I would rather say two because the last involves test when the baby comes, and that is out of the question.

Option 1:
A) CVS: They take a sample of the fluid in the womb through her vagina, at 12 weeks to test, if it’s good then fine, if not we have to terminate.

OR

B) At 16 weeks, they take the fluid using a needle directly from her womb, and if it’s SS , they terminate. Both procedures are cover by the government and we don’t need to pay a dime.

Now, she assured me that abortion is a very safe procedure if done properly, and it is even a bigger risk that one can die from a penicillin injection or carrying a pregnancy to term than any harm during an abortion.I know many people would come here and say abortion is this and that but let us be frank to ourselves. If you were told that the child in your womb would have cerebral palsy, or Down syndrome or a neurological disorder, would you still keep that pregnancy? Is there a 100% assurance that two AA people would give birth to a healthy baby? I have come to a realization that pregnancy is just a risk that people take, cus you really don’t know how your child would turn out.


Option 2:
PGD. This is just like IVF, where they would select the genotype before they insert back to the womb. She told me the government doesn’t cover this, and it could cost between $10K- $40k. However she mentioned, just like IVf, it is not guaranteed as it can fail and your money is gone.

I discussed this with my girl in Nigeria and she said she was fine with option 1a. I then asked her, that if the first, second are SS would she still remove it. She accepted. I would not lie to you, this girl is everything I want in a woman. I am not just looking at just love because I know love fades with time, but she is a really nice person, and has a good character. She has always been like this from my days in Nigeria because I was with her before I moved outside. Now after finding out our genotype, I tried to get into a relationship with AA. The first one Dey nigeria, she is a nice person, beautiful, but I just didn’t like her or feel attracted to her. She got tire and we just free ourselves, the second one is here in Canada, I just don’t like this one . Please note, I never slept with any of these ladies because I feel it’s not fair.


Now my question is for those who knew all this and still proceeded, how did it work out for you?

I repeat, don’t come here to tell me about how abortion is this and dat. Cus I know if they tell any of you that your child would be abnormal, 90% of you will go for the abortion

My Friend, AS is married to another AS, they have 2 beautiful daughters together, full of life.
I don't know what they do.
Note: They knew their genotype statuses before they got married.

Agba so you get $40k for IVF huh

Bolt458:
but this is someone I have been with before relocating to Canada. I have always had it in mind that she would join me. Left to her sef she prefer nigeria because it’s too cold here

Take advice and don't marry her after una go begin blame uncles and aunties after bringing a sick child to the world

haslaw:
Converting $10K-$40K to Naira gives N7.6 million to N30.5 million


Which kind IVF you want do at over N30 million

Firstly, you converted and stated it is between 7.6 to 30 million then you use 30 million as the marker? Funny

Let me break it down for you, IVF is rarely successful at first attempt, there are also some preliminary work to be done such as hormones, meds, etc. Before you're even approved for IVF, you go don spend over 1 million on tests. Moreover, I'm pretty sure the OP is not talking about Nigeria because government no dey pay for shin shin not even genetics testing such as SS screening.

IconicR:
She's not in right thinking mode

Abi the babe will agree to anything because she wants to move to Canada.

You are in dicey situation and I will advice you go your separate way for your peace and mental health,if I have known what I knew today years back I wouldn`t have took the risj I took then but God have mercy on us.My first Son was SS and We lost him in 2002 We had another children after that to GOD be the glory they turned AS,AA,AA.They are three and are doing wonderfully well.My concern on your own case is this issue of abortion which i know have spiritual and physical implication to your life.Let assume that after the first termination and no more pregnancy forth coming what will you do.God will give you wisdom to take the right decision.

FalseProphet1:
As a highly religious person, I'm extremely offended by this post knowing fully well that there's power in the name of Jesus. Anyways, just send me a message and I'll pray on the pregnancy and your SS baby would become AA.

This I have seen.

They're not married and she's not even close to getting pregnant....FalseProphet1 is really false

frankson1:
Abi the babe will agree to anything because she wants to move to Canada.

That's it

CaptainFM1:
The choice is his anyway.

I've giving him my million dollars worth of advice. You're free to advice him.

I have given ma billion dollars worth of advice too. But it doesn't matter either way has he has made his decision before coming here

abbey621:
Firstly, you converted and stated it is between 7.6 to 30 million then you use 30 million as the marker? Funny

Let me break it down for you, IVF is rarely successful at first attempt, there are also some preliminary work to be done such as hormones, meds, etc. Before you're even approved for IVF, you go don spend over 1 million on tests. Moreover, I'm pretty sure the OP is not talking about Nigeria because government no dey pay for shin shin not even genetics testing such as SS screening.

Una too like argument. That is the range the OP gave and I don't see what point you are making by changing the OP's story

IVF is expensive but not as expensive as the OP is painting.

Mention one country where the government pays for IVF

IconicR:
Why will you subject somebody's daughter to so much stress when you can easily go your separate ways.

Easily and separate ways for a 5 year relationship. Be realistic bro, there is nothing easy about it.

IconicR:
Why will you subject somebody's daughter to so much stress when you can easily go your separate ways.

Why will she subject somebody's son to so much stress when they can easily go their separate ways? It takes two to tangle. I am sure they are both aware of the consequences of their decisions.

remiopash:
Why will she subject somebody's son to so much stress when they can easily go their separate ways? It takes two to tangle. I am sure they are both aware of the consequences of their decisions.

Is everything gender war to you? Why are most of you like this on this forum?

IconicR:
Why will you subject somebody's daughter to so much stress when you can easily go your separate ways.

What stress is that again? Test and removal if it is SS? You're exaggerating

Zupay:
She is okay with it because she wan relocate to Canada.

The price to pay. Not bad though.

maasoap:
What stress is that again? Test and removal if it is SS? You're exaggerating

Yes it's exaggeration because it isn't your body that's being tampered with. Selfish

Bolt458:
I am not writing this for religious people to come with their funny talks, I am just putting this out here to hear from people who might have tried this methods or who heard about this methods and still proceeded or did not. I want to hear your experience. I have been dating someone for 5 years now, it happened that I began to see her as someone I would want to spend my life with. Last year we did our genotype test and we were both AS. Now , I know some of you will say this should be the first thing you ask when you meet someone but c’mon, would you say people in university that are dating now, would ask their sef that question? That theory is only feasible when you are single and ready to get married and want to start a new relationship, then you can always ask, but we all know some of our relationships started when we no Dey even see marriage in the nearest future, all of a sudden you just see them as the right person and you take the bold step. Now, I had to meet my family doctor here in Canada, I explained to him my current situation and he referred me to a GENETIC COUNSELOR. I am trying to take the necessary steps cause I am not ready to bring in a child with Sickle cell to this world, and I am not leaving anything to faith. A fone appointment was set with the counselor and we spoke at length. She told me that in every foetus, there is a 25% chance that we can get an SS child. Now , how do we mitigate this percentage to the barest minimum I asked as I am not even ready to bring in a sickler to this world. She gave me three options, I would rather say two because the last involves test when the baby comes, and that is out of the question.

Option 1:
A) CVS: They take a sample of the fluid in the womb through her vagina, at 12 weeks to test, if it’s good then fine, if not we have to terminate.

OR

B) At 16 weeks, they take the fluid using a needle directly from her womb, and if it’s SS , they terminate. Both procedures are cover by the government and we don’t need to pay a dime.

Now, she assured me that abortion is a very safe procedure if done properly, and it is even a bigger risk that one can die from a penicillin injection or carrying a pregnancy to term than any harm during an abortion.I know many people would come here and say abortion is this and that but let us be frank to ourselves. If you were told that the child in your womb would have cerebral palsy, or Down syndrome or a neurological disorder, would you still keep that pregnancy? Is there a 100% assurance that two AA people would give birth to a healthy baby? I have come to a realization that pregnancy is just a risk that people take, cus you really don’t know how your child would turn out.


Option 2:
PGD. This is just like IVF, where they would select the genotype before they insert back to the womb. She told me the government doesn’t cover this, and it could cost between $10K- $40k. However she mentioned, just like IVf, it is not guaranteed as it can fail and your money is gone.

I discussed this with my girl in Nigeria and she said she was fine with option 1a. I then asked her, that if the first, second are SS would she still remove it. She accepted. I would not lie to you, this girl is everything I want in a woman. I am not just looking at just love because I know love fades with time, but she is a really nice person, and has a good character. She has always been like this from my days in Nigeria because I was with her before I moved outside. Now after finding out our genotype, I tried to get into a relationship with AA. The first one Dey nigeria, she is a nice person, beautiful, but I just didn’t like her or feel attracted to her. She got tire and we just free ourselves, the second one is here in Canada, I just don’t like this one . Please note, I never slept with any of these ladies because I feel it’s not fair.


Now my question is for those who knew all this and still proceeded, how did it work out for you?

I repeat, don’t come here to tell me about how abortion is this and dat. Cus I know if they tell any of you that your child would be abnormal, 90% of you will go for the abortion

abeg give me dat second one in canada contact,let me try my luck