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correctguy101:
It's the way of the world.....
Has little or nothing to do with wickedness but more to do with being weak.
Weakness is a sin against the Self, and we'll suffer it until we gain sense and strength...
If you're weak, you'll be subjugated, subjected to every form of humiliation.
We're a weak continent.

i beg to differ, this has nothing to do with weakness and all to do with WICKEDNESS. only wicked people oppress the weak and rob them of their natural ressources, their lands, their lives (for their selfish agenda).

just because someone does something wrong for 1000s of years, doesnt suddenly make this wicked act any more right.

MrBrownJay1:
stick to the issue at hand.... the OP stated the below falsehood:



and therefore my answer is to educate the OP as to where the Africans stood in his obviously wrong statement. the ships that he attributed to Europeans were created by AFRICANS, the "knowledge" that he was quick to talk about was common in Africa way before Europeans knew how to read/count etc....same with Medicine, architecture/steel making. so lets not claim ARRANT NONSENSE on NL and stick with facts. African were more knowledgeable than Europeans, Europeans LEARNED FROM AFRICANS/ASIANS/MIDDLE EASTERN and not the way around.

Pure Nonsense about Africans building ships.
What ships?
Which continents did they sail to and colonize ?
I laugh at this ' feel good ' nonsense that we tell ourselves that we were more knowledgeable than the Europeans.
What then happened to the knowledge ?
What are the enduring legacies of such supposed knowledge?

I am a proud African. But I am also aware of the limitations of African culture and civilization.

Trying to embellish African culture and civilization just to justify our shameful failures in this current era is counterproductive.
We must tell ourselves the bitter truths and do a self audit about we are unable to govern ourselves and build a functional modern society for Africans.
Let's stop deceiving ourselves.

plaetton:
Pure Nonsense about Africans building ships.
What ships?
Which continents did they sail to and colonize ?
I laugh at this ' feel good ' nonsense that we tell ourselves that we were more knowledgeable than the Europeans.
What then happened to the knowledge ?
What are the enduring legacies of such supposed knowledge?

I am a proud African. But I am also aware of the limitations of African culture and civilization.

Trying to embellish African culture and civilization just to justify our shameful failures in this current era is counterproductive.
We must tell ourselves the bitter truths and do a self audit about we are unable to govern ourselves and build a functional modern society for Africans.
Let's stop deceiving ourselves.

what a sad statement...
you see, you people are so BRAINWASHED by the nonsense done by the west, that now you even believe that their evils is the RIGHT thing to do in life. Egyptians built ships to fish way before Europeans saw an opportunity to use ships to go oppress other people and steal their lands. the sad part here is that YOU now believe that the best use for ships is to spread evils around the world and colonize/murder entire nation to rob them of their natural ressources.

contrary to you, i am not here to embellish anything but to STICK TO FACTS!!!

plaetton:
Pure Nonsense about Africans building ships.
What ships?
Which continents did they sail to and colonize ?
I laugh at this ' feel good ' nonsense that we tell ourselves that we were more knowledgeable than the Europeans.
What then happened to the knowledge ?
What are the enduring legacies of such supposed knowledge?

I am a proud African. But I am also aware of the limitations of African culture and civilization.

Trying to embellish African culture and civilization just to justify our shameful failures in this current era is counterproductive.
We must tell ourselves the bitter truths and do a self audit about we are unable to govern ourselves and build a functional modern society for Africans.
Let's stop deceiving ourselves.

Exactly my thoughts, epistles like that of @MrBrownJay1 really calls into further questioning the intellect of the average African.
How can someone read a concocted feel good fiction and believe it without any iota of evidence or relic to back up that claim ?

MrBrownJay1:
what a sad statement...
you see, you people are so BRAINWASHED by the nonsense done by the west, that now you even believe that their evils is the RIGHT thing to do in life. Egyptians built ships to fish way before Europeans saw an opportunity to use ships to go oppress other people and steal their lands. the sad part here is that YOU now believe that the best use for ships is to spread evils around the world and colonize/murder entire nation to rob them of their natural ressources.

contrary to you, i am not here to embellish anything but to STICK TO FACTS!!!

Egyptians do not consider themselves as Africans, by Africa I mean Negroes.
Egyptians share boundary with African but in reality they consider themselves as Middle Easterners and their skin supports that claim.

The fact you are unable to use any true black nation as a reference and have to resort to using Middle Easterners who have many times denied being Africans should speak to something.

beekind:
Egyptians do not consider themselves as Africans, by Africa I mean Negroes.
Egyptians share boundary with African but in reality they consider themselves as Middle Easterners and their skin supports that claim.

The fact you are unable to use any true black nation as a reference and have to resort to using Middle Easterners who have many times denied being Africans should speak to something.

again, Egypt is in AFRICA, have always been in Africa... thus i dont care what you or anyone believe. when i talk of AFRICANS, i talk of each and every nation located on the African continent.
people like you who believe that African nations are only black nations are deluded, we are all AFRICANS, whether black, arabs or albinos!

A001:
I think two things will help curb religion in Africa: Continuously engaging religious people in debates and the growth of science. One just needs to do one's best to educate people about religion, philosophy, history, and science and leave the rest to nature.

I think we're in a new age now, and there will be more intelligent Africans in the near future.

There is nothing wrong in being a Christian or muslim (bar a few little issues that can be adjusted), The greatest countries in the world today were build on the back of Christianity (discussion for another day) .

Some of these countries had their laws and constitution drafted from the Bible.
To say Christianity or Islam is the reason for Africas backwardness is not accurate and sounds like we wanting to pass the buck.

The problem is how Africans practise their religion, as a matter of fact, Christianity particularly has been a blessing cos before the missionaries came our forefathers were living like barbarians, sacrificing twins, sacrificing each other to gods.
Burying themselves with dead people etc

Some of these terrible practices still abound today in our society but the influence of Christianity has helped to reduce it drastically.
I identify as Christian although I have not been to church in almost 5 years, but I am very spiritual.

The problem is that the African man does not think of the future, he only think of himself and what benefits him, is this as a result of intellectual deficiency ?
Is it intellectual inferiority that makes the black man not realise that it is cheaper, better and more rewarding/progressive to develop your community than to steal the money for yourself alone ?

The inability of the vast majority of Africans to have a collective developmental mindset rather than the selfish hogging of wealth mindset that he has may be suggestive of an intellectual deficiency in itself.
And if you look around, this pattern of behaviour is not only rampant in Nigeria, it pervades every black community in the world.

MrBrownJay1:
again, Egypt is in AFRICA, have always been in Africa... thus i dont care what you or anyone believe. when i talk of AFRICANS, i talk of each and every nation located on the African continent.
people like you who believe that African nations are only black nations are deluded, we are all AFRICANS, whether black, arabs or albinos!

Okay, since you don't want to admit the truth that you know I might as well just make it easy for you.
I am not talking about Africans, I am talking about the black race.
That's exactly what the topic says.

Do you realise that if you ship all the Caucasians from Europe to Africa and ship all black people to Europe in 20 years Black people in Europe will be pushing to leave Europe ?

It is not the location that makes the people, it is the people that makes the location, Again, Egyptians may share boundary with the black race but Egyptians are not black.

Does this mean you can not find any black race to buttress your point, which will therefore confirm my hypothesis ?

MrBrownJay1:
what a sad statement...
you see, you people are so BRAINWASHED by the nonsense done by the west, that now you even believe that their evils is the RIGHT thing to do in life. Egyptians built ships to fish way before Europeans saw an opportunity to use ships to go oppress other people and steal their lands. the sad part here is that YOU now believe that the best use for ships is to spread evils around the world and colonize/murder entire nation to rob them of their natural ressources.

contrary to you, i am not here to embellish anything but to STICK TO FACTS!!!

Yes, those Egyptians that built ships, developed those wondrous pyramids were black people. But that was some thousands of years ago. Ancient Egypt was a black civilization developed by Africans.

But that's all in the past now. Africans were highly intelligent and creative in the past and were ahead. Many philosophies, scientific concepts, technological inventions, religions of today have their roots in ancient Africa.

However, today, Africans are mostly inferior to other races intellectually. Stop living in the past.

We learn history to see how to build on the knowledge and achievements of our forefathers and learn from their mistakes, not to live in the past.

FYI, when various parts of Africa were great in the past, including ancient Egypt, Africans used to worship their native gods. It's those foreign gods (Yahweh and Allah) that eventually brought Africa to its knees, especially ancient Egypt that was invaded and conquered at different times by the Greeks, Romans, Arabs, and others. And it was the invasion and colonization by the Arabs that created the present-day Egypt.

So, the Modern Egypt is really an Arab country, not an African nation. There's nothing African about the descendants (modern-day Egyptians) of the Arab barbarians ('barbarian' in its general sense) that invaded and conquered ancient Egypt.

beekind:
There is nothing wrong in being a Christian or muslim (bar a few little issues that can be adjusted), The greatest countries in the world today were build on the back of Christianity (discussion for another day) .

Some of these countries had their laws and constitution drafted from the Bible.
To say Christianity or Islam is the reason for Africas backwardness is not accurate and sounds like we wanting to pass the buck.

The problem is how Africans practise their religion, as a matter of fact, Christianity particularly has been a blessing cos before the missionaries came our forefathers were living like barbarians, sacrificing twins, sacrificing each other to gods.
Burying themselves with dead people etc

Some of these terrible practices still abound today in our society but the influence of Christianity has helped to reduce it drastically.
I identify as Christian although I have not been to church in almost 5 years, but I am very spiritual.

The problem is that the African man does not think of the future, he only think of himself and what benefits him, is this as a result of intellectual deficiency ?
Is it intellectual inferiority that makes the black man not realise that it is cheaper, better and more rewarding/progressive to develop your community than to steal the money for yourself alone ?

The inability of the vast majority of Africans to have a collective developmental mindset rather than the selfish hogging of wealth mindset that he has may be suggestive of an intellectual deficiency in itself.
And if you look around, this pattern of behaviour is not only rampant in Nigeria, it pervades every black community in the world.

Africans are a funny lot. I don't even know where to start. Who told you Africans were barbarians, savage people before the whites came? The same white slavemasters, but that's a blatant lie.

I can see you don't know anything about the horrors of slavery and colonialization in Africa committed by these same slavemasters that told you Africans were barbaric and savage.

But this information is available online and an average African should know the horrors of slavery and colonialization in Africa — heinous acts committed by wicked souls from Europe and Arabia leading to the loss of millions of African lives and the dehumanization of hundreds of thousands of Africans.

The same people that brought you Christianity and Islam did all this and more. The same people that lied that Africans were barbaric and savage living like animals before the whites and Arabs came.

FYI, it was not all Africans that were barbaric and savage engaging in killing twins and other anti-human practices. And those evil practices weren't peculiar to Africa alone.

Europe was even worst, same as Arabia. Are you blind to all the atrocities and heinous acts that Yahweh and his prophets committed in the Bible (Old Testament)?

I don't know why Africans can't think deeply. Even Asia too had their own barbaric and savage practices in that period. Their 'noble' prophet in Islam married a toddler, which is pedophilia.

Their religion was spread by killing innocent people in millions, grabbing other people's lands, and conquering other peoples.

And you're calling Africans barbaric and savage in the past?

I can see you know next to nothing about world history. So much ignorance in a single post.

Christianity and Islam were never a blessing to Africa. One would even think the person that created the thread would know Christianity and Islam are the key reasons why Africans mostly demonstrate lower intelligence than other races.

Your knowledge of history is very shallow. I don't even know where or how to start correcting all these deeply ignorant posts.

The ignorance is too deep. When you recommend books meant to educate Africans and enlighten them, they won't read them.

Going by the situation of things now it appears so. Only a handful of blacks are often referred to when you discuss intellectual matters.

The blacks can also do well by looking inwards. But our leaders are tied to their apron strings. Whatever a black man does without the validation of a white man is considered inferior by the very black man himself. Food, drinks, clothings and other stuffs. If it's not 'Western', it's no okay with the black man.

Things like religion, spiritually, morality and general societal norms, including system of governance that formed the very core of the life of a black man have been traded off. We are only trying to belong.

The average white man is cunning, ungodly and lacks moral. He can go to any length to ensure chaos as long as their nests are feathered. Unfortunately, the black man is sold a lie in the guise "help" and thereby cheated again.
The whites are wiser!

They won't read history books written by African authors, but only the books of lies such as the Bible, Qur'an, and history books written by liars from Europe and Arabia.

The same false books referring to Allah as Olorun, Yahweh as Olorun, Esu as Satan, and all sorts of silly statements. And Africans with their low IQ will be calling the native pagans gods of Africa as the same as Allah and Yahweh.

How is Allah the same as Olorun? How is Yahweh the same as Olorun? How is Esu the same as Satan?

Who is the best person to tell the history of his own people, land, and culture if not the indigenes. But most Africans are simply stupid as they think the history books written by whites and Arabs about Africa are superior to the local ones.

Yet, the whites and Arabs won't take the same nonsense they ditch out to Africans.

Black peoples were the original inhabitants of America, Australia, New Zealand before the Britons wiped out and massacred almost the whole populations of blacks in those countries and claimed their lands.

Today, the US, Australia, and New Zealand are white countries.

Hitler was a white (a German) that killed millions of Jews. But I didn't hear anyone call the whole Europe barbaric and savage.

The whites would single out cases of barbaric and savage people in Africa and use them to paint the whole continent as dark, and ignorant Africans would be repeating the same lies all about.

No African people committed such heinous acts (like the whites) of this scale in history; yet, it's Africans that were barbaric and savage.

It's sad that thinking is the hardest thing to do for an average African.

beekind:
Okay, since you don't want to admit the truth that you know I might as well just make it easy for you.
I am not talking about Africans, I am talking about the black race.
That's exactly what the topic says.

It is not the location that makes the people, it is the people that makes the location, Again, Egyptians may share boundary with the black race but Egyptians are not black.
Does this mean you can not find any black race to buttress your point, which will therefore confirm my hypothesis ?

the problem with you people is that you always wanna take in a discussion, what fits your selfish agenda. so let me post below EXACTLY what you stated:

When you consider that Apple is worth more than the whole Africa combined and also realise that all African countries are in a worse position than they were when they were being colonised and most African countries would rather go back to those days before they gained independence, including Nigeria.
Infact, the best period on the African continent were the period before most African countries gained independence. And since gaining independence Africa has gone from good to worse, does this mean Africans are unable to rule themselves effectively due to intellectual defficiency.

NOT ONCE did you talk about the "black race" in your post, and instead you solely talked about Africa/Africans (you mentionned Africa/Africans 12 times in total). so if you want to lie to your own self then by all means, BE MY GUEST, but i will rather reply to what was said in your INITIAL POST.

bro, thats your truth. in your mind Europeans are the best at everything, even if i show you without a shadow of doubt that Africans created what you claimed was an European invention. now i understand that you have a problem with Africa and that "to you" Egyptians are NOT Africans, but sadly thats your opinion, and you are entitled to it.... but when you talk about Africa/Africans then Egyptians are included in that discussion, whether you like it or not.

Do you realise that if you ship all the Caucasians from Europe to Africa and ship all black people to Europe in 20 years Black people in Europe will be pushing to leave Europe ?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAH, here you are taking of Africa AGAIN, yet trying to claim that some Africans are not part of Africa. its funny how you are quick to use "Africa" when it fits your agenda, but when i now bring points about Africans, you will now claim that Egyptians are not Africans, lol!

A001:
But that's all in the past now. Africans were highly intelligent and creative in the past and were ahead. Many philosophies, scientific concepts, technological inventions, religions of today have their roots in ancient Africa.
However, today, Africans are mostly inferior to other races intellectually. Stop living in the past.

lets take one thing at a time.... OP was talking about the past, so i had to educate him about the past...but you are right TODAY African countries are inferior to other races intellectually...and i can only blame it on colonial exploitation, coupled with the constant meddling of the west in Africans affairs. you cant expect 300yrs of oppression and free labour to not affect a continent. how can you expect Africans to do in 60yrs what the west was able to create in more than 300yrs?

but most importantly, the majority of African countries are not working together and instead they are working against one another, thus when the west loosened up its grip on Africa, it was already too late. the west had a huge advantage over Africa. the west used Africa to better themselves, and when they were done with Africa, it was already too late. imagine a continent that still today majority of its currency is controlled by the west. imagine a continent were the west still have control over most of whats happening there....and when Africans want to better themselves and rise up against the western control of Africa, the west will just go and kill your leaders (aka Libya).

whats happening to Africa has nothing to do with intelligence, it has all to do with WICKEDNESS!!!!!

MrBrownJay1:
whats happening to Africa has nothing to do with intelligence, it has all to do with WICKEDNESS!!!!!

Lols, on this planet, the most intelligent ones rule over the stupid ones most of the times.

Why should you expect mercy or pity from barbaric people, thieves, and invaders that went about breaking into other people's lands looting their resources, destroying their cultures and traditions with their (foreign) religions, and colonizing them?

The whites and Arabs are highly intelligent mostly, but colonization, slavery, looting of other people's resources are evil and wrong ways to use intelligence.

Some humans use their intelligence to do good and help others; others like the prophets and 'saints' of Christianity and Islam, the whites and Arab colonialists and slave masters use their own intelligence for evil and conquering others.

A001:
Africans are a funny lot. I don't even know where to start. Who told you Africans were barbarians, savage people before the whites came? The same white slavemasters, but that's a blatant lie.

I can see you don't know anything about the horrors of slavery and colonialization in Africa committed by these same slavemasters that told you Africans were barbaric and savage.

But this information is available online and an average African should know the horrors of slavery and colonialization in Africa — heinous acts committed by wicked souls from Europe and Arabia leading to the loss of millions of African lives and the dehumanization of hundreds of thousands of Africans.

The same people that brought you Christianity and Islam did all this and more. The same people that lied that Africans were barbaric and savage living like animals before the whites and Arabs came.

FYI, it was not all Africans that were barbaric and savage engaging in killing twins and other anti-human practices. And those evil practices weren't peculiar to Africa alone.

Europe was even worst, same as Arabia. Are you blind to all the atrocities and heinous acts that Yahweh and his prophets committed in the Bible (Old Testament)?

I don't know why Africans can't think deeply. Even Asia too had their own barbaric and savage practices in that period. Their 'noble' prophet in Islam married a toddler, which is pedophilia.

Their religion was spread by killing innocent people in millions, grabbing other people's lands, and conquering other peoples.

And you're calling Africans barbaric and savage in the past?

I can see you know next to nothing about world history. So much ignorance in a single post.

Christianity and Islam were never a blessing to Africa. One would even think the person that created the thread would know Christianity and Islam are the key reasons why Africans mostly demonstrate lower intelligence than other races.

Your knowledge of history is very shallow. I don't even know where or how to start correcting all these deeply ignorant posts.

The ignorance is too deep. When you recommend books meant to educate Africans and enlighten them, they won't read them.

You need to be very objective it seems there is so much emotion in this write up that you have missed the real arguement here.
Yes, its not just Africans that are Barbarians, at some point all races were barbaric.

The point I am making is that, the Europeans evolved faster than the black race. This is why it took an European to convince Africans that killing of twins is wrong, sacrificing humans is wrong.
Even as we speak today, Africans are still making human sacrifices if not for Christianity, it would have been worse.

While the Europeans evolved and quickly eliminated the evil practises in their culture, the African man still holds on tightly to it till today.

Which continent have you heard that a group of people gathered together and set their own kin on fire because he stole maggi ? Today in Nigeria people still lych each other, I am talking of a community of people gathering to set others on fire, this takes a whole new level of barbarism.

Thats the point I am making, it's 2023, stop making references to things that happened when there was largely ignorance.

Lastly, if it was the Black race that had access to the technology and evolved quickly, the black race would have done worse to other races, I know of a friend whoose great grand father was a missionary roasted and eaten in Papa New Guinea, my friend is dutch and her great grandfather was a missionary.

Did you ever hear of Europeans eating blacks ?

beekind:
You need to be very objective it seems there is so much emotion in this write up that you have missed the real arguement here.
Yes, its not just Africans that are Barbarians, at some point all races were barbaric.

The point I am making is that, the Europeans evolved faster than the black race. This is why it took an European to convince Africans that killing of twins is wrong, sacrificing humans is wrong.
Even as we speak today, Africans are still making human sacrifices if not for Christianity, it would have been worse.

While the Europeans evolved and quickly eliminated the evil practises in their culture, the African man still holds on tightly to it till today.

Which continent have you heard that a group of people gathered together and set their own kin on fire because he stole maggi ? Today in Nigeria people still lych each other, I am talking of a community of people gathering to set others on fire, this takes a whole new level of barbarism.

Thats the point I am making, it's 2023, stop making references to things that happened when there was largely ignorance.

Lastly, if it was the Black race that had access to the technology and evolved quickly, the black race would have done worse to other races, I know of a friend whoose great grand father was a missionary roasted and eaten in Papa New Guinea, my friend is dutch and her great grandfather was a missionary.

Did you ever hear of Europeans eating blacks ?

You don't know what you're talking about. I've better things to do with my time than engaging in senseless discussion on Nairaland. Once you said you're a Christian, I know you'll operate on a lower level of intelligence.

No African with a working brain should be a Christian or Muslim.

If you make human sacrifices, don't generalize what you do to the whole African population.

He said Africans are still making human sacrifices as if it's millions of Africans doing so in modern times. Only a tiny percentage of Africans do so, but that's enough for you to generalize to the whole population of over 1.4 billion people in a region.

If you don't know you're displaying the low level of intelligence often observed in a typical African, then I don't have anything else to say to you.

A001:
Lols, on this planet, the most intelligent ones rule over the stupid ones most of the times.

Why should you expect mercy or pity from barbaric people, thieves, and invaders that went about breaking into other people's lands looting their resources, destroying their cultures and traditions with their (foreign) religions, and colonizing them?

The whites and Arabs are highly intelligent mostly, but colonization, slavery, looting of other people's resources are evil and wrong ways to use intelligence.

Some humans use their intelligence to do good and help others; others like the prophets and 'saints' of Christianity and Islam, the whites and Arab colonialists and slave masters use their own intelligence for evil and conquering others.

i dont expect mercy from the wicked, but i also wont fool myself into believing that whats happening in Africa is because Africans are less intelligent than another race. wickedness is winning, and thats the truth of this discussion... why do you think the west has killed so many African leaders since their so called "independence" (if not to keep Africa on its knees)?

MrBrownJay1:
but most importantly, the majority of African countries are not working together and instead they are working against one another, thus when the west loosened up its grip on Africa, it was already too late. the west had a huge advantage over Africa. the west used Africa to better themselves, and when they were done with Africa, it was already too late. imagine a continent that still today majority of its currency is controlled by the west. imagine a continent were the west still have control over most of whats happening there....and when Africans want to better themselves and rise up against the western control of Africa, the west will just go and kill your leaders (aka Libya).

whats happening to Africa has nothing to do with intelligence, it has all to do with WICKEDNESS!!!!!

This kind of logic of blaming the west is the reason the Black race is backward, it seems the black man is genetically engineered not to take responsibility for his life but blame others.

This is similar to the African Americans who keep blaming slavery for their backwardness yet the Asians have since immigrated to USA and are not doing much better than them.

The Europeans also dealt a huge blow to Asian countries, heck Japan was bombed with a Nuclear bomb, do you see these countries using these past attrocities as excuses ?

Is it the Europeans that is forcing our leaders to take the money meant for a whole state and keep it for personal use ? You must put the blame squarely on our leaders as the reason for our backwardness and since our leaders are a microcosm of the larger society hence they are just a reflection of who we are as a people.

A001:
You don't know what you're talking about. I've better things to do with my time than engaging in senseless discussion on Nairaland. Once you said you're a Christian, I know you'll operate on a lower level of intelligence.

No African with a working brain should be a Christian or Muslim.

If you make human sacrifices, don't generalize what you do to the whole African population.

He said Africans are still making human sacrifices as if it's millions of Africans doing so in modern times. Only a tiny percentage of Africans do so, but that's enough for you to generalize to the whole population of over 1.4 billion people in a region.

If you don't know you're displaying the low level of intelligence often observed in a typical African, then I don't have anything else to say to you.

https://dailypost.ng/2023/04/10/boy-set-ablaze-in-calabar-over-alleged-phone-theft/
You really like to bury your head in the sand, the number of people set ablaze and lynched in Nigeria this month alone will shock you. Tell me which other race will do this in 2023.

It was not just our forefathers that were barbaric and savage, even the present black race is filled with barbarism and savagery on another level.

Which other race will gladly watch as his own kin burns ?

MrBrownJay1:
i dont expect mercy from the wicked, but i also wont fool myself into believing that whats happening in Africa is because Africans are less intelligent than another race. wickedness is winning, and thats the truth of this discussion... why do you think the west has killed so many African leaders since their so called "independence" (if not to keep Africa on its knees)?

You're acting as if it's only African countries that were colonized in human history. Are you aware that even the Great Britain itself was once colonized by Rome?

If not that Africa has the largest concentration of fools on this planet, the continent would have developed even with the selfish games played by the West and Arabs.

When we've thinkers in higher numbers, the West or Arabs won't be able to stop the continent from developing.

Developing a society all starts from the head. Good heads that can think critically and deeply with foresight are needed in large numbers to build a society, not dull heads.

In Africa, it's the dull heads that form the majority. That's where the problem lies.

The foundation of a functional, progressive society lies in philosophy, science and technology, and critical thinking. Your average African finds all these subjects boring.

How is the West or Arabs responsible for that?

But we won't develop until a sufficiently higher number of Africans master them.

beekind:
This kind of logic of blaming the west is the reason the Black race is backward, it seems the black man is genetically engineered not to take responsibility for his life but blame others.
This is similar to the African Americans who keep blaming slavery for their backwardness yet the Asians have since immigrated to USA and are not doing much better than them.

comparing whats happened/happening in Africa with African-Americans in the US is an irrelevant joke. African-Americans in the US are indeed oppressed and have been for a long time, but their plight is nowhere near as insane as whats happening in Africa.

The Europeans also dealt a huge blow to Asian countries, heck Japan was bombed with a Nuclear bomb, do you see these countries using these past attrocities as excuses ?

Japan was never colonized by the west, in fact japan was a colonizer themselves. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT...instead look at the state of India to understand that what the west did, whether in Africa or Asia, got the exact same result. India is in the exact same sorry state, thanks to western colonization/interference. the only difference here is that Indians are getting together to rebuild their nations since independence, while Africans are fighting one another with tribalistic BS.

Is it the Europeans that is forcing our leaders to take the money meant for a whole state and keep it for personal use ? You must put the blame squarely on our leaders as the reason for our backwardness and since our leaders are a microcosm of the larger society hence they are just a reflection of who we are as a people.

African leaders are just the TOOL used by the west to control Africa.... and when these same African leaders dont abide by the western rules, they are either toppled or assassinated. even if the African leaders didnt take the money, there would still be a western interference in African Economy, in African natural ressources etc. the west is not ready yet to let go of its GOLDEN GOOSE!

beekind:
https://dailypost.ng/2023/04/10/boy-set-ablaze-in-calabar-over-alleged-phone-theft/
You really like to bury your head in the sand, the number of people set ablaze and lynched in Nigeria this month alone will shock you. Tell me which other race will do this in 2023.

It was not just our forefathers that were barbaric and savage, even the present black race is filled with barbarism and savagery on another level.

Which other race will gladly watch as his own kin burns ?

What's the percentage of ritual killers in the African population? I can see even basic math is difficult for you. Are they even up to 5% of the African population? If they're more than 10% of the African population or higher as your silly post shows, I don't think you'd have the chance of typing nonsense here on Nairaland.

The dead don't talk.

MrBrownJay1:
comparing whats happened/happening in Africa with African-Americans in the US is an irrelevant joke. African-Americans in the US are indeed oppressed and have been for a long time, but their plight is nowhere near as insane as whats happening in Africa.



Japan was never colonized by the west, in fact japan was a colonizer themselves. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT...instead look at the state of India to understand that what the west did, whether in Africa or Asia, got the exact same result. India is in the exact same sorry state, thanks to western colonization/interference. the only difference here is that Indians are getting together to rebuild their nations since independence, while Africans are fighting one another with tribalistic BS.



African leaders are just the TOOL used by the west to control Africa.... and when these same African leaders dont abide by the western rules, they are either toppled or assassinated. even if the African leaders didnt take the money, there would still be a western interference in African Economy, in African natural ressources etc. the west is not ready yet to let go of its GOLDEN GOOSE!

What you are saying may have some elements of truth but it fails to address the deep issues, these are just symptoms resulting from intellectual deficiency.

To argue that it is western leaders forcing all African leaders to steal money meant for developing their countries is just plain ridiculous.

Let me ask you the same question I have asked @A001 but he keeps avoiding, is it western leaders that are forcing people to set each other ablaze ?
You have to agree that for someone to be able to carry out such an action it means he is at a much lower evolutionary stage than the average caucasian.

I mean, people can murder people and all, but when a community congregates and sets people on fire in 2023, there is no better arguement than to agree that these people are barbarians and savages, and the majority of folks in Nigeria are very comfortable with this.

So what other proof do you need in addition to the evident lack of growth and progress in the country to let us conclude that something is wrong upstairs with the average black person.

Those Africans that practice Christianity or Islam are actually the dullest humans on this planet.

If your brain is working well and you know the millions of past African people that were either killed or dehumanized when the whites and Arabs were spreading those two Abrahamic religions, you'd regard the religions as existential threats.

Only the culture that owns a religion really benefits from it. When your brain has been made useless in your head by reading the Bible and Qur'an, you won't know this simple fact.

A001:
You're acting as if it's only African countries that were colonized in human history. Are you aware that even the Great Britain itself was once colonized by Rome?

what happened in Europe has absolutely NOTHING to do with whats happening in Africa....you are comparing a grain of salt with mount Kilimandjaro.... especially when the west is still benefitting TODAY from their past colonization of Africa

If not that Africa has the largest concentration of fools on this planet, the continent would have developed even with the selfish games played by the West and Arabs.
When we've thinkers in higher numbers, the West or Arabs won't be able to stop the continent from developing.

yes African countries are fighting one another instead of working together....and then within these same countries, tribes are fighting one another for power, coupled with religions are separating even more Africans...so no wonder Africa cant go forward.

Developing a society all starts from the head, good heads that can think critically and deeply with foresight are needed in large numbers, not dull heads. In Africa, it's the dull heads that form the majority. That's where the problem lies.

nah sadly i fully disagree, developping a society starts with THE PEOPLE... and sadly, Africans are too busy focussing on fighting one another (while praying to some imaginary invisible god), to remotely make sane decision.

The foundation of a functional, progressive society lies in philosophy, science and technology, and critical thinking. Your average African finds all these subjects boring. How is the West or Arabs responsibly for that? But we won't develop until a sufficiently higher number of Africans master them.

these yeye bibles were brought o Africa to divide Africans and to brainwash them... how can you have a functional progressive society when the majority put some yeye invisible god before anything else in their lives? how can you fully use your brain when you believe that everything on earth is controlled by some yeye invisble god? Africans find LIFE boring because they live in fantasy land where the aim on earth is some yeye imaginary paradise....

beekind:
What you are saying may have some elements of truth but it fails to address the deep issues, these are just symptoms resulting from intellectual deficiency.

To argue that it is western leaders forcing all African leaders to steal money meant for developing their countries is just plain ridiculous.

Let me ask you the same question I have asked @A001 but he keeps avoiding, is it western leaders that are forcing people to set each other ablaze ?
You have to agree that for someone to be able to carry out such an action it means he is at a much lower evolutionary stage than the average caucasian.

I mean, people can murder people and all, but when a community congregates and sets people on fire in 2023, there is no better arguement than to agree that these people are barbarians and savages, and the majority of folks in Nigeria are very comfortable with this.

So what other proof do you need in addition to the evident lack of growth and progress in the country to let us conclude that something is wrong upstairs with the average black person.

I'm done engaging you. I've better things to do with my time. I carefully select people I engage on Nairaland.

You must show a certain level of intelligence and depth in your posts for me to take you seriously. You've not done so, especially since you're a Christian.

A001:
What's the percentage of ritual killers in the African population? I can see even basic math is difficult for you. Are they even up to 5% of the African population? If they're more than 10% of the African population or higher as your silly post shows, I don't think you'd have the chance of typing nonsense here on Nairaland.

The dead don't talk.

I am not talking about ritual killers.
I am letting you know today in Nigeria, people will gather, I mean in their hundreds, a whole community will gather to set people ablaze on suspicion of stealing maggi.

Google aluu 4, these things have been happening and more prevalent than you think ?

This is 2023, what other race does this ? When you argue that Europeans were barbaric, that was 100s of years ago, but in 2023 are we not barbaric and savages ?

Also it was Samuel Ajayi Crowther, a missionary that stopped the killing of twins and also other terrible African traditional religious practices . Even if you hate Christianity be honest enough to acknowledge the evident good that it brought to the African continent.

By the way, I did not say I was a christian, I said I identify as one. - big difference

MrBrownJay1:
what happened in Europe has absolutely NOTHING to do with whats happening in Africa....you are comparing a grain of salt with mount Kilimandjaro.... especially when the west is still benefitting TODAY from their past colonization of Africa



yes African countries are fighting one another instead of working together....and then within these same countries, tribes are fighting one another for power, coupled with religions are separating even more Africans...so no wonder Africa cant go forward.



nah sadly i fully disagree, developping a society starts with THE PEOPLE... and sadly, Africans are too busy focussing on fighting one another (while praying to some imaginary invisible god), to remotely make sane decision.

The foundation of a functional, progressive society lies in philosophy, science and technology, and critical thinking. Your average African finds all these subjects boring. How is the West or Arabs responsibly for that? But we won't develop until a sufficiently higher number of Africans master them.

these yeye bibles were brought o Africa to divide Africans and to brainwash them... how can you have a functional progressive society when the majority put some yeye invisible god before anything else in their lives? how can you fully use your brain when you believe that everything on earth is controlled by some yeye invisble god? Africans find LIFE boring because they live in fantasy land where the aim on earth is some yeye imaginary paradise....

You've made reasonable points.

And yes, development starts from the head. But you said it's the people. Does a head stand on its own?

It's not accurate to say development starts with the people. No. It starts from the head, a good head, not a dull one.

In Africa, we've the people (over 1.5 billion of them), but those with good heads are scarce. It's the dull heads that form the majority.

That's the root of the problems.

beekind:
What you are saying may have some elements of truth but it fails to address the deep issues, these are just symptoms resulting from intellectual deficiency.

here is a very simple clue to make you understand how/why the black man in the US has been oppressed for centuries...
when slavery was abolished in the US, there was a dire need for manual labour and work force, and since there were millions of freed slaves, they could have used them... but instead they rejected using blacks for these well needed jobs and instead decided to call on Italians/Irish/Chinese to come by boatloads to the US to get these jobs...that will give you an idea of the hatred that they had for blacks.
when you see how quickly blacks are gunned down by police in the US, you can understand that such hatred is still prevalent today in the US.

To argue that it is western leaders forcing all African leaders to steal money meant for developing their countries is just plain ridiculous.

nobody is forcing these African leaders to take money, but none of these African leaders can remove the western interference in Africa...the few who tried are dead and buried!

Let me ask you the same question I have asked @A001 but he keeps avoiding, is it western leaders that are forcing people to set each other ablaze ? You have to agree that for someone to be able to carry out such an action it means he is at a much lower evolutionary stage than the average caucasian.

i dont know what people you are talking about that are setting themselves ablaze, but i do know that it aint no different than the people every sunday who give their life savings to some yeye invisible god... while living miserable lives.

beekind:
I am not talking about ritual killers.
I am letting you know today in Nigeria, people will gather, I mean in their hundreds, a whole community will gather to set people ablaze on suspicion of stealing maggi.

Google aluu 4, these things have been happening and more prevalent than you think ?

This is 2023, what other race does this ? When you argue that Europeans were barbaric, that was 100s of years ago, but in 2023 are we not barbaric and savages ?

Also it was Samuel Ajayi Crowther, a missionary that stopped the killing of twins and also other terrible African traditional religious practices . Even if you hate Christianity be honest enough to acknowledge the evident good that it brought to the African continent.

By the way, I did not say I was a christian, I said I identify as one. - big difference

Nonsensical post. Just stop embarrassing yourself already.

It's people like you that do all those barbaric killings.

If you and your fellow Christians lay your hands on any atheists or agnostics on Nairaland, you're ready to burn and kill them. And those that don't do so, kill such freethinkers while being alive by rendering them virtually useless.

Lecturers won't allow them to graduate. Employers won't give them jobs. Parents won't allow them to marry their children.

You and your fellow dolts will ostracize thinkers in society and still come to Nairaland to create stupid posts about why the black race isn't developing.

Yet, the thinkers that will develop the society are those you and your fellow religionists keep killing physically or otherwise.

It's foolish people like you that forced many freethinkers, including my humble self, to leave the African continent, or at least, Nigeria.

Because thinkers, especially atheists and agnostics, are leaving the continent in droves, it'll take a long time for Africa to develop.

It's highly intelligent people and thinkers that develop societies, not religious zombies.

For silly people like this, a politician that embezzles public funds in trillions of naira putting millions of lives in penury and privation, killing lots of people in their prime, is better and deserves to live. But not a freethinker who often tries to be law abiding.

I've never seen such a stupid set of people in my life anywhere else.

A001:
You've made reasonable points.
And yes, development starts from the head. But you said it's the people. Does a head stand on its own?

It's not accurate to say development starts with the people. No. It starts from the head, a good head, not a dull one.

In Africa, we've the people (over 1.5 billion of them), but those with good heads are scarce. It's the dull heads that form the majority.
That's the root of the problems.

here is how Africa would improve INSTANTLY, with the right "people": the minute a head of state messes up, the PEOPLE should rebel and eject that yeye president. if the people did that (like they do elsewhere around the world) Africa will greatly improve instantly.

the power lies with the people, not these yeye head of state. sadly, African are so brainwashed that they would go and riot in the streets for every lame reason yet not for what would change their destiny...

- why cant Nigerians go to the streets and protest when leaders fukc up, like they did during endsars? is endsars more important than the future/existence of Nigeria?
- why cant Nigerians go to the streets and protest when leaders fukc up, like they did during South African ressentment (after South Africans were killing Nigerians in SA)?? is SA treatment of Nigerians more important than the future/existence of Nigeria?
- why cant Nigerians go to the streets and protest when leaders fukc up, like they did when some yeye coza pastor was accused of rape? are coza pastors more important than the future/existence of Nigeria?