LagosFirstSon:
no be lie

Yoruba are peace loving but in a cowardly way lol

RingRoadMafia:
This thread is about how Fulanis play politics of hate, but watch and see how APC media cows will leave the fulanis whom Mr Bwala talked about and face the Igbos.

Maybe Mr Bwala needs to come on nairaland and see spiteful Yorubas for himself.

RingRoadMafia:


Spineless as they are spiteful

Raskimonojendor:

The cowards are not the ones whose parents are being flogged by crackheads IPOB members in the red mud region.

Even their Eze ndigbo got flogged in Akure by Yoruba youths too. And the ibos came back to postrate and apologize despite being the ones flogged.

haffaze777:
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At bold,yes and epe yen nja won seriously

NinjaMetahuman:


How far baba?

Raskimonojendor:

Like is not hard, it's people that make life hard for themselves - Naira Marley

georgeakins:


Zik was below Awolowo in National politics.

He was never half as smart as Awo. He was a complete tribalist who masqueraded as a nationalist. He preferred to be an errand boy to the North instead of joining forces with Awo, he was eventually used and dumped.

Padipadi:

What happened then was internal crisis. Stop lampooning it. Meanwhile that Zik messed up. He could v teamed up with Awolowo for better instead of beefing the sage even after death. Some people are indeed bitter than flagyl.
On the legacy, who's more honoured after death by their people?
Awolowo or Zik?
In fact, where are Azikiwe's children in present time cos we still dey see Awolowo's children. In fact, one of his grandchildren is married to Osinbajo, one is a movie star, one is owner of tribune newspaper and his first grandchild is a very popular business man/politician?

Connoisseur:


I quite agree with the man.
For your information, he never said, "Yorubas never played politics of bitterness". Maybe they did at some point, but currently from his standpoint, they don't.

Moreover, wise people learn from their mistakes, idiots relieve them

tamdun:

A thief that left his region and wanted to rule SW

manikspears:


How does your writeup and your attachment make sense? Do you think you are speaking to idiots?

Seun needs to start blocking some people on NL.

I am not yoruba but you igbos are nothing to write home about when it comes to your thinking . Funny enough some of you are intelligent but you see the likes of you......you are the problem of south east

BreconHills:


When the yorubas were betrayed by Ziks alliance with the North ( the same north the SE love castigating today) they fought their own people whom they considered traitors to their cause.

When the SE felt betrayed they fought a war against the whole of Nigeria. A war that they had no hope in hell of winning in the hope that western nations would intervene.

In operation whettie hundreds died, in the civil war millions died. In the Western crisis, the problem was restricted to the locale in the civil war the Biafra army attempted to reach lagos.

Which zone was the political war zone? Both. Scale? No contest - SE

Those who forget history repeat it

duro4chang:
Life is hard. Do not make it hard for yourself

84mgve27:














You folks have it all mixed up. Your quarrel is NOT with me. I simply remembered "wild, wild West" and did a google search and posted the first thing I saw!

Your quarrel is with people who wrote the following. People like The Guardian. They called Zik a nationalist and federalist, and Awo a regionalist and tribalist.
THEY wrote it, NOT me!

Padipadi:

Both you and the guardian of that time are wrong

RingRoadMafia:


Spineless as they are spiteful

LagosFirstSon:
no be lie

Yoruba are peace loving but in a cowardly way lol

Raskimonojendor:

The cowards are not the ones whose parents are being flogged by crackheads IPOB members in the red mud region.

Even their Eze ndigbo got flogged in Akure by Yoruba youths too. And the ibos came back to postrate and apologize despite being the ones flogged.

84mgve27:


How?
Zik schooled in US. Saw Jim Crow segregation and maltreatment of BLACKS first hand. By the time he came back he was about liberating AFRICA, not only Nigeria. He started in Ghana with WEST AFRICAN pilot newspaper. He included "Cameroon" in his party. Awo on the hand, was always about Yoruba and Yoruba only. He never pretended about being a Nationalist. So why are you now thrusting it on him??

84mgve27:


You need to have a more investigative mind and do proper research before spreading fire on the internet and getting return artillery.

The piece you are quoting from is NOT by the Guardian it is an Op-Ed by a columnist. It is not history, it is someone's opinion. If you are going to use opinions you have to have a larger sample size. Or read impartial historians like Max Siollun or documentaries on Netflix like Journey of an African Colony













You folks have it all mixed up. Your quarrel is NOT with me. I simply remembered "wild, wild West" and did a google search and posted the first thing I saw!

Your quarrel is with people who wrote the following. People like The Guardian. They called Zik a nationalist and federalist, and Awo a regionalist and tribalist.
THEY wrote it, NOT me!

84mgve27:


They did not call zik a federalist, they said he saw himself as a federalist. Is english your problem?

You can see yourself as something you are not.















You folks have it all mixed up. Your quarrel is NOT with me. I simply remembered "wild, wild West" and did a google search and posted the first thing I saw!

Your quarrel is with people who wrote the following. People like The Guardian. They called Zik a nationalist and federalist, and Awo a regionalist and tribalist.
THEY wrote it, NOT me!

manikspears:

■■They did not call zik a federalist, they said he saw himself as a federalist. Is english your problem?

You can see yourself as something you are not.

BreconHills:

The piece you are quoting from is NOT by the Guardian it is an Op-Ed by a columnist. It is not history, it is someone's opinion. If you are going to use opinions you have to have a larger sample size. Or read impartial historians like Max Siollun or documentaries on Netflix like Journey of an African Colony

Padipadi:

Firstly, after their death, we have seen who's more influential. Zik that wasn't emulated by Ojukwu, and every other Igbos even till this present Obi. When you are good, your goodness ll speak after your death. I m not here to disparage Azikiwe or Igbos but to tell that there was someone who's a better politician which is Awolowo.
Awo was never about Yorubas alone. He spoke for Yorubas when needed just as Ahmadu Bello was pro north. There was a clip of Ahmadu Bello castigating Igbos and saying they shouldn't be allowed to near power.

84mgve27:


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■■ It's same as saying he was a federalist. He saw himself as a federalist and aimed to be such. Awo saw himself as a Yoruba leader.
But you people sef. THINK! Zik was born and raised among Hausas and spoke the language fluently and also spoke Yoruba. He had no choice but be a nationalist. His US experiences further made him a pan-Aficanist. That's what you are comparing with Awo!

●● The writer was reviewing a BOOK by an non--Igbo who witnessed all of it. But he's not the only one. Google is your friend

■● Of course Zik is not as popular among Igbos as Awo is among Yorubas precisely because be was a federalist not just about Igbos unlike Awo. He did not support independence without the North. He was against secession and did no support Biafra and Ojukwu durring the war. Infact he flew into Lagos and was used by Nigerian side as propaganda!

manikspears:


No it isn't. If I say you saw yourself as a wise man does that mean you are wise. I may even be stating an irony sef

VinnyBaba:


Maybe.

But they certainly play politics of TRIBALISM and RELIGION.😒

Particularly the Taofeeks, Razaks, Kazeems, Muslius, amongst them.

LagosFirstSon:
no be lie

Yoruba are peace loving but in a cowardly way lol

georgeakins:


Leave South South alone.

It is you Ibo people that introduced bitterness and hatred to Nigeria polity in 1966.
Ibos are a naturally bitter and hateful tribe
The Nigeria should quickly be restructured and Ibos should be forced out to go and form biafra

LagosFirstSon:

The Yoruba Muslims aren't true Muslims. They are infidels and very violent In nature .

N2000 is enough to buy them into doing your biddings.

They are dishonourable set of people

SamboAnguissa:


Why the Yorubas don't give a fvck about ibbos. Maybe because the ibbos lack hisory, or because it was the Yorubas that civilized ibbos and introduced them to clothing (they have Ajayi Crowther to thank for that)

84mgve27:


Wrong analogy. No action required in that case. But you cant see yourself as something that requires action and never take that action - examples: youth advisor, footballer, nationalist.
But you were told Google is your friend! See below

manikspears:


Have you heard the term....you think say you dey wise? That is the example. Fun-fact anybody can write anything on Google plus everyone is praised on Google at some point in time. Do you know that Sani Abacha was written as an economical hero on Google? But people who were alive then can never remember him for good. You kept calling zik a hero the same zik that connived with the first people that carried out the first coup.

Read

Dr. Azikiwe strangely did not come back in December, 1965, as scheduled, and gave no reasons.

When he eventually returned, much later in February 1966, he was received as a private citizen, because his post as Nigeria’s President had been abolished in his absence.

His inexplicable and un-explained failure to return home as host of the first Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Africa, holding in Lagos, Nigeria, beginning January 10th 1966, heightened suspicion that he knew more than he was letting on regarding the soldiers’ revolutionary mutiny of 15th January, 1966.

By early morning Sunday, January 16th 1966 - with President Azikiwe still away on his Caribbean cruise, and, with the country’s Prime Minister, Tafawa Balewa declared missing – Nigeria became vulnerable.

84mgve27:


You apparently didn't read what I wrote. There is no ACTION related to being wise. But if you say "he thinks himself a youth advisor", that's different

Those things were written by major Nigerian newspapers, NOT Google.

Nobody said anything about hero. Being a nationalist or federalist doesn't make someone a hero.

Some people insist Awo planned the coup from prison, that Ifeajuna was his boy. Ifeajuna himself said the aim of the coup was to release Awo and make him Prime Minister. All speculation

84mgve27:


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■●

■■ It's same as saying he was a federalist. He saw himself as a federalist and aimed to be such. Awo saw himself as a Yoruba leader.
But you people sef. THINK! Zik was born and raised among Hausas and spoke the language fluently and also spoke Yoruba. He had no choice but be a nationalist. His US experiences further made him a pan-Aficanist. That's what you are comparing with Awo!

●● The writer was reviewing a BOOK by a non--Igbo who witnessed all of it. But he's not the only one. Google is your friend

■● Of course Zik is not as popular among Igbos as Awo is among Yorubas precisely because be was a federalist not just about Igbos unlike Awo. He did not support independence without the North. He was against secession and did no support Biafra and Ojukwu durring the war. Infact he flew into Lagos and was used by Nigerian side as propaganda!

BreconHills:


Whether Zik saw himself as a federalist does not change the the fact that he insisted thst draft 1958 constitution be amended to remove the right of regions to leave the Federation. This made him a purist federalist whose reality has been undermined from 1967 yo its final death throes today. Ahamadu Bello and Awolowo were far more pragmatic. They were sceptical federalist no doubt. They foresaw a reversion to regional identity and prepared for it in two quite different ways. This does not make Zik a bad time in fact he was not only a federalist but a pan africanist like Nkrumah. Their view was beautiful but impractical as all over the world national identity is being redefined. The UK itself our former over Lords being a great example of unions in retreat.

Idealist vs pragmatists. Simple really.