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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Akwamkpuruamu: 7:44pm On Jul 21, 2023
Lotanna2:


Which they failed to demonstrate in court
There's no much time for that
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Arapmoi22: 7:54pm On Jul 21, 2023
Now I know the synonyms of Almajiri.
It is synonymous to obedients.

Court will throw out your case for lack of merit.

After that, we will ask you almajiris to say more.

grin grin grin

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Igwe9(m): 7:56pm On Jul 21, 2023
Lotanna2:


The supreme court will settle it but importantly,obi failed to prove that he won

He won! there's nothing there to prove,
INEC did not conduct an election, all they did was selection.

For example, If three of you were to write an exam and the papers to be marked under a CCTV camera.
On that day, The Examiner smuggled an already written answers for one of you and also ended the exam before the stipulated time so that you don't get to finish your own, and when he was asked to provide the records of everything that transpired during the examination, it happens that nothing was recorded on the camera, He sited technical problem,

So, tell me how you can prove that you passed the exam when the only condition you went into the exam is because you were assured that everything will be recorded on camera and there be no room for cheating.?
For you, is It not either they cancel the exam or they declare you first?
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by sunray(m): 7:57pm On Jul 21, 2023
Lotanna2:


Which they failed to demonstrate in court

And the verdict is....... the petition lacks merit, incompetent and bona-fide.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 7:57pm On Jul 21, 2023
sunray:


And the verdict is....... the petition lacks merit, incompetent and bona-fide.

As in eh
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 7:58pm On Jul 21, 2023
Igwe9:

In as much he did, there's nothing there to prove, INEC did not conduct an election, all they did was selection.
For example, If three of you were to write an exam and the papers would be marked under a CCTV camera and on that day, the examiner smuggled an already written and also ended the exam before the stipulated time and when asked to provide the recording of everything that transpired during the examination, it happens that nothing was recorded on the camera, tell me, how you can prove that you passed the exam when the only condition you went into the exam is because you were assured that everything will be recorded on camera and there be no cheating.?
For you, is It not either they cancel the exam or they declared you first?

Obi failed to prove that there was massive rigging and that the rigging affected his victory
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 7:58pm On Jul 21, 2023
Akwamkpuruamu:

There's no much time for that

That is why he was never going to succeed
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by XY23: 7:59pm On Jul 21, 2023
Lotanna2:


Atiku failed to discharge burden of proof.instead of him to prove his allegations,he expected inec to prove or discharge the burden.

Lol. I understand you're basing your arguments on original EC38As and not copies. The answer is, INEC couldn't certify them, instead they blurred the uploaded copies to hide the irregularities, and they didn't dispute them as same as originals (see attached). There are laws even backing it.

I don't think you appreciate what it means for a petioner to prove a case against a complicit umpire. INEC was trying to protect themselves and BAT, but they failed in both. By certifying 18k blurred results, how then did they declare BAT? 18K PUs is substantial. That's why I said what the petitioners could rely on is the NON COMPLIANCE issue (PO did well in that area). Someday in the future, our laws should not make INEC a judge in it's own case.

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Igwe9(m): 8:01pm On Jul 21, 2023
Lotanna2:


Obi failed to prove that there was massive rigging and that the rigging affected his victory
You failed to answer my question and kept repeating the same thing, only a dummy can do that
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 8:03pm On Jul 21, 2023
XY23:


Lol. I understand you're basing your arguments on original EC38As and not copies. The answer is, INEC couldn't certify them, instead they blurred the uploaded copies to hide the irregularities, and they didn't dispute them as same as originals (see attached). There are laws even backing it.

I don't think you appreciate what it means for a petioner to prove a case against a complicit umpire. INEC was trying to protect themselves and BAT, but they failed in both. By certifying 18k blurred results, how then did they declare BAT? 18K PUs is substantial. That's why I said what the petitioners could rely on is the NON COMPLIANCE issue (PO did well in that area). Someday in the future, our laws should not make INEC a judge in it's own case.

You still don't get it.obi and atiku failed to prove that the blurring was from inec.tjey failed to compare it with the hardcopies which is fatal...inec certified server or online copies of bvas data in osun but yet the court rejected them for the original copies

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 8:03pm On Jul 21, 2023
Igwe9:

You failed to answer my question and kept repeating the same thing, only a dummy can do that

Only a dummy can fail woefully like pandora and his master.obi failed to prove rigging or his victory and that ended his case

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Assetosky(m): 8:11pm On Jul 21, 2023
HIGHESTPOPORI:
Yes,there is no way Tinubu had more votes when Inec uploaded blurred results with over 2.5m votes and Tinubu won just 10 States without even getting 25percent in Abuja.How did Tinubu get majority of votes with just 10 States while Obi won 14 States,and where did Inec get the votes for Tinubu from if they uploaded blurred results


Come o! This f.oolishness is too much now na. Do you really know the meaning of collation? Are you aware that collation was done down from units to wards,to LGAs and to states finally? Final result was gotten from this process and not irev.


Which kind thing be this! U be small pikin?

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by XY23: 8:13pm On Jul 21, 2023
Lotanna2:


You still don't get it.obi and atiku failed to prove that the blurring was from inec.tjey failed to compare it with the hardcopies which is fatal...inec certified server or online copies of bvas data in osun but yet the court rejected them for the original copies

The substance of both cases are different, INEC certified 2 different things for the same purpose. I wont dwell on the issue of certification since the respondents didn't dispute them. In fact, Wole (SAN) even attributed the blur to printing, photocopying error etc. Meaning they acknowledge it's from INEC, and what was used to declare BAT (the response is online).

In any case, no matter how we interprete it, there is one incontrovertible fact, INEC didn't follow their prescribed guidelines (which are like laws on their own) and admitted to it by calling it 'glitch'. Unless, the court discountenance that fact, I don't see how the election will not be cancelled.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 8:19pm On Jul 21, 2023
XY23:


The substance of both cases are different, INEC certified 2 different things for the same purpose. I wont dwell on the issue of certification since the respondents didn't dispute them. In fact, Wole (SAN) even attributed the blur to printing, photocopying error etc. Meaning they acknowledge it's from INEC, and what was used to declare BAT (the response is online).

In any case, no matter how we interprete it, there is one incontrovertible fact, INEC didn't follow their prescribed guidelines (which are like laws on their own) and admitted to it by calling it 'glitch'. Unless, the court discountenance that fact, I don't see how the election will not be cancelled.


Election cannot be cancelled based on electronic evidence but on physical or manual evidence.while irev copies are from inec,the hard copies are more authentic and reliable.inec guidelines are subsidiary laws inferior to electoral act
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 8:20pm On Jul 21, 2023
Lotanna2:


Inec demonstrated clearly with rivers copy that what is different on the hardcopy is more authentic than the blurred copies and that blurriness can be from bad camera,posture,weather etc

Sorry, but this response is not related to what you quoted 🤔
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Majesty7: 8:22pm On Jul 21, 2023
Lotanna2:


Are you ok? Where did you see that peter won the election? His lawyers never said so or are you dreaming

Is like you don't know these people called obidient? Tiny sense they don't have. Just a bunch of confused souls. When one says, the other follows without thinking. A clear definition of zombie
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 8:22pm On Jul 21, 2023
Lotanna2:


The supreme court severally stated that manual or guidelines cannot be used to nullify elections esp when it is contrary to the electoral act.the electoral act backed by a fhc judgment clearly stated that inec can transmit as it likes

You'd do well to quote the Supreme Court judgement so I can peruse it just like you did in what you quoted, just like I did. We're not really going to consider a lower court in this instance.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 8:23pm On Jul 21, 2023
DesChyko:


You'd do well to quote the Supreme Court judgement so I can peruse it just like you did in what you quoted, just like I did. We're not really going to consider a lower court in this instance.

See wike vs dakuku 2015...one of the judges ejembi eko I think said guidelines are not fatal but disobedience of EA are
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 8:25pm On Jul 21, 2023
DesChyko:


Sorry, but this response is not related to what you quoted 🤔

It takes care of the blurred copies
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by benardtotti(m): 8:27pm On Jul 21, 2023
XY23:

Lol. Let me try and understand your arguments for once. It is true that neither PO nor AA could prove they won the highest lawful votes cast. I read both responses thoroughly. But guess what? The 1st respondents couldn't prove that BAT did same. Why? the umpire (INEC) simply conducted elections and flew the evidence to Mars (figurative). They couldn't defend what they declared (e.g. EC38A for rivers). PO was able to prove however, that he won in Rivers and Benue (making a total of 14 states).

Now, the thrust of both petitions is NON-COMPLIANCE with electoral law. It has also been established that INEC guidelines are not rhetoric, they're backed by the law with which it operates.

Possible verdict: Rerun (unless the court feels such departure from the law is not substantial). The FCT issue will set a precedent, no need arguing about that. Whether BAT will partake in the rerun or not depends on the other issues. In all, let justice be seen to be done.

It is not for the respondents to prove anything, it is the petitioner who has to show beyond reasonable doubt that he won .he who alleges must prove , a respondent only has to defend his stance based on whatever the petitioner throws at him .

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by yetunsbay(m): 8:30pm On Jul 21, 2023
INVINCIBLECSP1:
If the Judiciary want to save Nigeria from collapse, they know what to do. The drug kingpin is waiting for the coast to clear before he begins his stealing attitude. God will disgrace him.
calm down, no be Tinubu 'koba-lise' u

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by hardbody: 8:39pm On Jul 21, 2023
walex2:
go to the bank and use your grammar to collect Dollar, just like Obi your failure promax, I don't need any grammar to make my money. Just like Indian and Chinese people live well in Naija while you continue to suffer with your lunatic foreign language

Dummy
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by hardbody: 8:43pm On Jul 21, 2023
benardtotti:


It is not for the respondents to prove anything, it is the petitioner who has to show beyond reasonable doubt that he won .he who alleges must prove , a respondent only has to defend his stance based on whatever the petitioner throws at him .

This postulation only applies to criminal suits not civil matters such as election petitions. In civil matters, the courts look at the preponderance of probable evidence presented before it. The law is that judgment will be entered against that person who fails to lead evidence to prove its case in a civil matter. Stop misleading people with your half- knowledge.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by benardtotti(m): 8:51pm On Jul 21, 2023
hardbody:


This postulation only applies to criminal suits not civil matters such as election petitions. In civil matters, the courts look at the preponderance of probable evidence presented before it. The law is that judgment will be entered against that person who fails to lead evidence to prove its case in a civil matter. Stop misleading people with your half- knowledge.

Bro this does not follow , if you claim you won an election then it is for you to show why you won it and the declared winner was the loser, what exactly do you want the winner of the election to do ? Start bringing Ec8 forms to show he won? That's not how it works, you said you won an election ,show us how you won then its easier for the defence to plan their next move .
Go check oyetola vs Adeleke , even tho oyetola lost he tried to prove there was over voting at a adelekes stronghold.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Enice(m): 8:52pm On Jul 21, 2023
DesChyko:


It is clear you didn't follow the Elections Proceedings. You also missed the Press briefings where it was made clear that INEC is refusing to provide top copies as requested. I will take you to Page 3, Article IX on this document, since it also looks like you didn't read before passing judgement either.

Just dey play
Livy is a big liar and is full of lies. We know this. He is just trying to play to the gallery. INEC cannot refuse to give a petitioner any document so long as that document has been requested through the courts. That will be contempt of court. The man is a failure and has failed woefully with this petition.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Arapmoi22: 9:12pm On Jul 21, 2023
Enice:
Livy is a big liar and is full of lies. We know this. He is just trying to play to the gallery. INEC cannot refuse to give a petitioner any document so long as that document has been requested through the courts. That will be contempt of court. The man is a failure and has failed woefully with this petition.

The South yeastern Almajiris are so dumb that they don't even know that Livy is working for BAT.
He chose to prove nothing.
Knowing the nattering nitwits won't ever discover.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 9:17pm On Jul 21, 2023
Enice:
Livy is a big liar and is full of lies....INEC cannot refuse to give a petitioner any document so long as that document has been requested through the courts.

So, is this you confirming that INEC provided 'Livy' with all the documents they requested as soon as the subpoena was delivered 'so they won't be in contempt of the court' ?
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by BabaRamota1980: 9:31pm On Jul 21, 2023
Respondents cannot take refuge under Supreme Court judgement in Nigeria to argue their case .....but Petitioners can use Supreme Court judgement in far away US to argue their case.

grin grin

Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by OfficialAPCNig: 9:31pm On Jul 21, 2023
Enice:
Funny Address! No where in this address did Obi say he won the election. All he is talking about is a rerun or outright cancellation of the election. His main grouse is that INEC did not upload the results to IREV 8n real time and the blurred IREV copies. grin Obi don lule like fowl wen get cocidiosis
Are you sure you know how PEPT works. This is a reply to APC written address
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Acidosis(m): 10:18pm On Jul 21, 2023
It's funny how people who don't read are now commenting on Obi's response.

How many critics on this page have ever read a 40-page document in the last ten years?

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by seunmsg(m): 10:32pm On Jul 21, 2023
If Peter Obi refuse to sack all his legal team after reading this senseless final address, then he’s just an empty nuisance.

This is the worst final address I’ve read in my entire life. They did not even make any single attempt to convince the court they actually won the election. This is the worst presidential election petition case in history and I really hope the court will not shy away from imposing very heavy fine against the petitioner and his crass counsels.

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