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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by ejimatic: 7:40am On Jul 22, 2023
00FFT00:
I know some of you have been waiting for this.

So, in the matter pending at the presidential Elections Petitions Court, the petitioners have filed their final written address, which I will serialize as follows:

Attn. Mods: The following is Peter Obi's address. Please delete the thread if it offends any rules or sensitivities, but do not ban me. Thank you.
. ! From this submission,what is the final results of the election?
2. From this submission what is the postion of the SC on IREV results?

3. From this submission what is the postion of this SC on BAT / Shetimma candidacy?

4. From this submission which states does Obi want the rerun to take place?

5. From this submission will the AC see good grounds to order a rerun or declare Obi winner ?
6 From this submission who won between Obi and Atiku?

Let awiat the judgement of the AC soon!
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Great2017: 7:41am On Jul 22, 2023
oyatz:



The IREV copies are IMAGES, not the hardcopies.

If you use your phone to snap pictures of a result sheet and the pictures are blurred, it does NOT mean the results sheets are not clear.

Obi's Legal Team NEVER mentioned that he won the election. They never mentioned any amount of votes he received ,which put him ahead of other candidates.
So, who snapped the blurred picture? Obi's team or INEC's team? So, whose onus is it to bring the original document?
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by udemzyudex(m): 7:50am On Jul 22, 2023
Enice:
Obi's lawyers that are dumb! Where in the world do you win an election without a score? Rubbbbish

This post shows you've not been following the PEPT case.
You're asking without a score? They brought in a mathematician witness that did all this in tabular form,they already compiled their scores and submitted .

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 7:52am On Jul 22, 2023
udemzyudex:


This post shows you've not been following the PEPT case.
You're asking without a score? They brought in a mathematician witness that did all this in tabular form,they already compiled their scores and submitted .

And the scores showed that apc still won

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by udemzyudex(m): 7:52am On Jul 22, 2023
Lotanna2:


And the scores showed that apc still won

Yeah in your dream,you think this is the one that was trending on Twitter?

That's why i said most of you are not follow this cases.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 7:54am On Jul 22, 2023
udemzyudex:


Yeah in your dream.

How? In the final address,inec clearly stated that the scores from prof Eric shows tinubu won.obi never addressed those scores.why is he silent
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by udemzyudex(m): 8:02am On Jul 22, 2023
Lotanna2:


How? In the final address,inec clearly stated that the scores from prof Eric shows tinubu won.obi never addressed those scores.why is he silent

Which INEC are you talking about?
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 8:05am On Jul 22, 2023
Lotanna2:
it wasn't delivered from inec.you are being deceived

I don't want to call you a liar, but come on.. Did you follow the tribunal proceedings at all? Even in the face of evidence, y'all still run away from the truth 😲

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 8:07am On Jul 22, 2023
DesChyko:


I don't want to call you a liar, but come on.. Did you follow the tribunal proceedings at all? Even in the face of evidence, y'all still run away from the truth 😲

Hardcopies remain the originals.failure to build a case on that is fatal to obi
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by seunmsg(m): 8:14am On Jul 22, 2023
PaellaPaella:






You can't defend Tinubu without making a fool of yourself, hardest job on this earth.

Bro, he took you to the cleaners. You’re the one making a fool of yourself.

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 8:14am On Jul 22, 2023
Lotanna2:


Hardcopies remain the originals.failure to build a case on that is fatal to obi

This is you thinking hard copy means anything different in Law. Damn. It's jus paper bro. Paper. INEC provided those evidence on paper, certified them and handed that to LP. They're hardcopies, just like any printed document lying about you right now.😁

Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by hardbody: 8:15am On Jul 22, 2023
walex2:
same way your stupid father and stupid mother that gave birth to a dunce and jobless and headless goat like you

While involving parents in my discussion with you, we now know who has the drunk and imbecilic parenting. Keep embarrassing yourself in a public domain. When a DOLT has nothing to offer they deploy insults and abuses, going even beyond the target to their family. What a shame to WHATEVER gave birth to you, perhaps a jackal
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 8:19am On Jul 22, 2023
Lotanna2:


Tribunal do not convict people.obi has no substantial evidence so he fails

But this line of discussion is not about the tribunal's job. It's about you 'assuming' over 18000 polling units results won't make a difference as if that makes it okay to 'steal' them. πŸ‘‡

Lotanna2:

Assuming there is a rerun in that 18000 unit,obi will still fail woefully owfully

This is legally termed 'assumption of fact' and that is very harmful to proceedings.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by hardbody: 8:19am On Jul 22, 2023
benardtotti:


Bro this does not follow , if you claim you won an election then it is for you to show why you won it and the declared winner was the loser, what exactly do you want the winner of the election to do ? Start bringing Ec8 forms to show he won? That's not how it works, you said you won an election ,show us how you won then its easier for the defence to plan their next move .
Go check oyetola vs Adeleke , even tho oyetola lost he tried to prove there was over voting at a adelekes stronghold.

Ok bro. Did he claim he won or did he say the election was rigged and did not follow due process? If due process was not followed, then the entire activity was fraught with irregularity and the only reasonable thing to do in that instance will be cancellation and perhaps a re-run. It does not have to Obi, It could even be Atiku but we need to be sure that the right thing is done for the sake of posterity and our democracy.

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Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Majesty7: 8:25am On Jul 22, 2023
DesChyko:


This is you thinking hard copy means anything different in Law. Damn. It's jus paper bro. Paper. INEC provided those evidence on paper, certified them and handed that to LP. They're hardcopies, just like any printed document lying about you right now.😁

You are mixing things up. The hardcopies here are the original papers that contains the needed evidence. If you proof that what was uploaded was false or blurred, then your representative at such center should have a clearer copy of the said documents.

You can't proof what you don't have. Every sensible person knew Obi won't go far. You can't expect to win a case based on assumptions. Facts are needed and not just shouting and ranting in a circle
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 8:34am On Jul 22, 2023
Majesty7:


You are mixing things up. The hardcopies here are the original papers that contains the needed evidence.
Please provide a legal citation of this definition.

If you proof that what was uploaded was false or blurred, then your representative at such center should have a clearer copy of the said documents.
We will have a good discussion on this with reference to the Electoral Act 2022 and Evidence Act, but first, clear up the 'mix-up' above by giving me a citation defining 'hardcopies' as such πŸ‘
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 9:00am On Jul 22, 2023
DesChyko:


But this line of discussion is not about the tribunal's job. It's about you 'assuming' over 18000 polling units results won't make a difference as if that makes it okay to 'steal' them. πŸ‘‡



This is legally termed 'assumption of fact' and that is very harmful to proceedings.

What I meant was that if a rerun is ordered there,obi will still lose as only 2 mil voters turnout the last time and obi need 2.8 mil
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 9:01am On Jul 22, 2023
DesChyko:


This is you thinking hard copy means anything different in Law. Damn. It's jus paper bro. Paper. INEC provided those evidence on paper, certified them and handed that to LP. They're hardcopies, just like any printed document lying about you right now.😁

Inec certified server copies to apc in osun and it was trashed man.the hardcopy are the primary evidence.inec regulations clearly states that hardcopy are primary.see regulations 93
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Enice(m): 9:06am On Jul 22, 2023
udemzyudex:


This post shows you've not been following the PEPT case.
You're asking without a score? They brought in a mathematician witness that did all this in tabular form,they already compiled their scores and submitted .
you think just by bringing someone to say rivers and Benue state were won by Obi, that amounts to winning the election! Oga, you have to state categorically the number of votes you got. It's now left for the court to accept or reject your claim.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 9:08am On Jul 22, 2023
Lotanna2:


Inec certified server copies to apc in osun and it was trashed man.the hardcopy are the primary evidence.inec regulations clearly states that hardcopy are primary.see regulations 93

It was between the BVAS data and the back-end server data. It's not about hardcopy, sorry

Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by walex2(m): 9:45am On Jul 22, 2023
hardbody:


While involving parents in my discussion with you, we now know who has the drunk and imbecilic parenting. Keep embarrassing yourself in a public domain. When a DOLT has nothing to offer they deploy insults and abuses, going even beyond the target to their family. What a shame to WHATEVER gave birth to you, perhaps a jackal
the best answer is to send insult and abuse to your stupid parents who didn't do a good job on you, why insulting someone who is older than you by making his own submission, the best is to send words to your nonentity generation that is what I will continue to do for you and all these uncultured children of perdition
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 10:21am On Jul 22, 2023
DesChyko:


It was between the BVAS data and the back-end server data. It's not about hardcopy, sorry

It is the same thing sir by implication.ajything not hardcopy is secondary and unreliable.sorty to you and obi
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 11:59am On Jul 22, 2023
Lotanna2:


It is the same thing sir by implication.ajything not hardcopy is secondary and unreliable.sorty to you and obi

I can see you are allergic to growth mentality. How can I have given you the legal definition of hardcopy and you're still waving the wrong instance all over this place??

Do you have a problem with learning?? I have repeatedly asked for a legal interpretation with citation for this misinformed meaning of hardcopy you keep using; you've provided none.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 12:02pm On Jul 22, 2023
DesChyko:


I can see you are allergic to growth mentality. How can I have given you the legal definition of hardcopy and you're still waving the wrong instance all over this place??

Do you have a problem with learning?? I have repeatedly asked for a legal interpretation with citation for this misinformed meaning of hardcopy you keep using; you've provided none.

Obi doesn't have a concrete case sir.the hardcopies are the paper directly entered to at the polling units.in it's absence,we use irev but comparison must be made.obi failed to compare his blurred results
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 12:05pm On Jul 22, 2023
Lotanna2:


Obi doesn't have a concrete case sir.the hardcopies are the paper directly entered to at the polling units.in it's absence,we use irev but comparison must be made.obi failed to compare his blurred results

No. Those are top copies. Any paper they appear on is a hardcopy. In fact, any paper on which something is printed on is a hardcopy. That's basic English.

INEC don't have the top copies, that's why they failed to provide them even when subpoenaed to do so.
And the Electoral Act 2022 approves the use of iREV copies in case of any contention.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 12:11pm On Jul 22, 2023
DesChyko:


No. Those are top copies. Any paper they appear on is a hardcopy. In fact, any paper on which something is printed on is a hardcopy. That's basic English.

INEC don't have the top copies, that's why they failed to provide them even when subpoenaed to do so.
And the Electoral Act 2022 approves the use of iREV copies in case of any contention.

Inec has the top copies,obi presented them in court but failed to lead them in evidence or demonstart them or identify discrepancies there.irev copies must be compared with other copies in times of contention.during cross examination of prof ofoedu,inec compared a top copy with irev and irev was not blurred and had more authentic info
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 12:45pm On Jul 22, 2023
Lotanna2:

Inec has the top copies, obi presented them in court..

Obi presented what INEC has in court?

In the past, you've claimed to follow a long list of election tribunal cases. I'm being led to believe you may be muddling them up and confusing one for the other.

Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 12:46pm On Jul 22, 2023
DesChyko:


Obi presented what INEC has in court?

In the past, you've claimed to follow a long list of election tribunal cases. I'm being led to believe you may be muddling them up and confusing one for the other.

Obi has failed sir
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by DesChyko: 12:54pm On Jul 22, 2023
Lotanna2:


Obi has failed sir

Noted πŸ˜πŸ‘
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Lotanna2: 12:55pm On Jul 22, 2023
DesChyko:


Noted πŸ˜πŸ‘

Rest then.give up
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by Deogratiasfx: 6:20pm On Jul 22, 2023
Hafeexla:
They say you did not show how you win an election and up till now in your address you did not show us how?

Is it correct to say you won the same election you emphatically try to prove it was not done correctly? You don't need a degree to understand this; this is common sense.
Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu/shettima/apc Final Written Address by hardbody: 6:51am On Jul 23, 2023
walex2:
the best answer is to send insult and abuse to your stupid parents who didn't do a good job on you, why insulting someone who is older than you by making his own submission, the best is to send words to your nonentity generation that is what I will continue to do for you and all these uncultured children of perdition

Share your birth certificate.

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