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Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by gbadexy(m): 9:31am On Jul 26, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
True Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) are in China though our activities in that country is restricted due to long history of chaos caused religious sects who were meddling in politics.
But nobody on this planet today can say he or she hasn't heard of Jehovah's Witnesses.
The Russians government made the group so popular due to what they did to us in the year 2017 that year our group was labelled "EXTREMIST GROUP"
There is no country on this planet where the news did not reach that the world's most peaceful and peace loving group was labelled EXTREMIST like killer groups.
So if your Chinese friend is truly a good man he supposed to ask why a peaceful group like that were banned as EXTREMISTS but if he just discard the matter saying he's not concerned then tell me how the true God will treat his case! Luke 10:30-37

Why didn't he try to locate the minority Muslims there also?

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:44am On Jul 26, 2023

gbadexy:
Why didn't he try to locate the minority Muslims there also?

Good question!
Just like the group name "CHRISTIANS" has been profaned due to the activities of the Catholic Church during the dark ages, the long struggle between Muslims and Buddhists in China has caused so much chaos in the past in fact that's why most people think China is an atheist country but it's a lie!
What the Chinese want now is freethinker's system of government so if you're elected into public office note that the people voted you due to the qualities they found in you not your God, so keep the word of your God to yourself and deliver what they voted you for.
So in their parliament no God is mentioned in order to keep Gods away from their reasoning this is the result of killings they've experienced in the past when Muslims are trying to force their book on them.

That's why he can't think of Muslims at all.

If they could present any group that's peaceful and peace loving none political then they will have a chance but Muslims can't do without meddling in the political affairs of where they are and instead of reasoning objectively their book overshadow their power of reasoning.

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Deepspirituals(op): 10:15am On Jul 26, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ use your brain nah!

What concerns Nairalanders with a Chinese man?
You brought up his case and wanted everyone to learn not so?
What stops him from doing the same about the world's most peaceful and peace loving group if truly he's good as you're trying to portray him?

Nobody is going to find him in China for what you wrote so i'm not saying he should go and pick up a fight with Russian authorities but he should have gained something while thinking about what happened to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES just as you want people here to gain something from considering his lifestyle!

. Omo Use your Brain now it seems you are not using it at all .

What is it all about this your JEHOVAH WITNESS SELF ,Is finding out why Your JEHOVAH WITHNESS a Standard for proving one to be a good Person ...Try use your brain..Since U feel U have been using it . U refer yourself as True Christian and a Member of JEHOVAH WITHNESS Yet you Open your Open and Says Someone should use His Brain ...

You are on Here to Campaign about your JEHOVAH WITHNESS why they are Termed Extremist ,Go and take up that and leave The thread out of your JEHOVAH WITHNESS fracas with Russia or any Country .

Islam and other Denominations in Christianity Face The same Plight in different Countries ,So Stop the Derailments

JEHOVAH WITHNESS IS NOT THE HELL OR HEAVEN THE THREAD IS ABOUT

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:10am On Jul 26, 2023*

Deepspirituals:
JEHOVAH WITHNESS IS NOT THE HELL OR HEAVEN THE THREAD IS ABOUT

Your thread is all about one man in China but there are billions of good people around the world based on each person's perspective.
So for you to have brought up the case of a man in far away China as a case study for millions of people on Nairaland why not think of millions who have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone no matter what happens and are speaking one on one with their neighbours on how to make peace reign within human society?
Ọmọ 99.9999 people will prove to be good provided they're the ones rich and rendering help to the less privileged but for a change let them be the ones looking up to someone for help that's when you will know those who are truly virtuous!

So if your Chinese friend only does what he knew as good within his neighbourhood but failed to note how the authority in his neighbouring country treated peaceful people who have dedicated their lives to seeking peace then there's nothing to learn about him.
He's just like the rich Jewish man who claimed he has been keeping the law from his youth meanwhile Jesus said that man has lost his chances of everlasting life. So let your Chinese friend live the rest of his life without God he has nothing to be remembered for in the kingdom of the true God!

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by 9182736455O1999(m): 11:33am On Jul 26, 2023

Image123:
It's a question, does he have another option?

Of course. He had may options.

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by 9182736455O1999(m): 11:34am On Jul 26, 2023

Image123:
It's a question, does he have another option?

Of course. He had may options.

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Stone03: 12:39pm On Jul 26, 2023

Deepspirituals:
A Chinese Man that Spends about 100 Years on Earth already,Still Alive ,Never Worshiped Him nor Pray to Him because he did not Believe in Almighty God ,He lived and had a wonderful Health ,Wealthy,Had Good Things of Life , Comfortable .

People around him talked about how Loving ,Caring and Kind he is to People .How He shares what he has and live in Peace with People.
No record of him in any heinous crime ,Evil though no one is ever perfect . Has a Business of his own .
Will Such a Man Go to Hell Fire ?

Remember that there are so many People like this in China.

The People's Republic of China is officially an atheist state

As long as his good life centers on the fear of God, he did not deny the existence of God. His conscience has served God.

Romans 2
13. For merely listening to the law doesn’t make us right with God. It is obeying the law that makes us right in his sight.

14. Even Gentiles, who do not have God’s written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it.

15. They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. NLT

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Image123(m): 1:24pm On Jul 26, 2023

9182736455O1999:
Of course. He had may options.

Give three other options.

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by 9182736455O1999(m): 5:34pm On Jul 26, 2023

Image123:
Give three other options.

Every other thing every other person believes in is an option. The actions you take, are they not options?

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Image123(m): 5:40pm On Jul 26, 2023

9182736455O1999:
Every other thing every other person believes in is an option.
The actions you take, are they not options?

Seems you did not understand my question. i asked the Opening post if the Chinese man in question had any other options apart from hell. You said there are many options. Kindly mention three of these other options.

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by 9182736455O1999(m): 5:49pm On Jul 26, 2023

Image123:
Seems you did not understand my question. i asked the Opening post if the Chinese man in question had any other options apart from hell. You said there are many options. Kindly mention three of these other options.

Oh. I didn't really understand the question in the first place.
What do you mean by if he had another option apart from hell.
I though the options was based on his lifestyle, good behaviours and deeds as the OP stated.
If he hadn't believed in God, he couldn't have had anything to do with hell na?

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Nobody: 5:59pm On Jul 26, 2023

A Christian's Perspective:

Let's look at the reasons why he would have gone to hell...
• If he really lived that sinless life, then no hell for him
• Did anyone try to preach Christ to him and he refused to accept? Probably some little hell for him
• Original (inherited) sin is something to consider, but that may not necessarily lead to hell

Again, let's look at reasons why he will make Heaven...
• He never accepted Christ, so no Heaven. Simple.

He'll probably get a little lashing in hell (remember, hell is not a place of eternal torment... You only pay according to your sins).
The old man will only pay for what God considers as sin.
He'll make it to the second life (like we all will) and probably be one of the best Christians there...

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by DiamondPant(f): 6:30pm On Jul 26, 2023

God has a reason for allowing the man to do whatever he's doing.
That's what I heard.
They said God always has a reason for everything.

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Nobody: 6:36pm On Jul 26, 2023

DiamondPant:
God has a reason for allowing the man to do whatever he's doing.
That's what I heard.
They said God always has a reason for everything.

They said God always has a reason for everything that He does or allows...

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by DiamondPant(f): 6:41pm On Jul 26, 2023

preciousee17:
They said God always has a reason for everything that He does or allows...

Yeah.
That's what they said.

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Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Image123(m): 7:02pm On Jul 26, 2023

9182736455O1999:
Oh. I didn't really understand the question in the first place.
What do you mean by if he had another option apart from hell.
I though the options was based on his lifestyle, good behaviours and deeds as the OP stated.
If he hadn't believed in God, he couldn't have had anything to do with hell na?

If we're talking about or discussing hell fire, then we're discussing the Christian perspective, right? Or we're just here to waste time mocking and poking imaginary holes.
So therefore, according to the Bible, he's not born again or saved by works and good behavior. According to the Bible, he must be born again. If he is not born again, he has no other option but hell fire according to the Bible.

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by 9182736455O1999(m): 7:24pm On Jul 26, 2023

Image123:
If we're talking about or discussing hell fire, then we're discussing the Christian perspective, right? Or we're just here to waste time mocking and poking imaginary holes.
So therefore, according to the Bible, he's not born again or saved by works and good behavior. According to the Bible, he must be born again. If he is not born again, he has no other option but hell fire according to the Bible.

Ok. Yeah! Yeah!
Some christian folks do agree to that.

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Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by hashtagged(m): 7:58pm On Jul 26, 2023*

Deepspirituals:
A Chinese Man that Spends about 100 Years on Earth already,Still Alive ,Never Worshiped Him nor Pray to Him because he did not Believe in Almighty God ,He lived and had a wonderful Health ,Wealthy,Had Good Things of Life , Comfortable .

People around him talked about how Loving ,Caring and Kind he is to People .How He shares what he has and live in Peace with People.
No record of him in any heinous crime ,Evil though no one is ever perfect . Has a Business of his own .
Will Such a Man Go to Hell Fire ?

Remember that there are so many People like this in China.

The People's Republic of China is officially an atheist state

The Bible has proven God is just. His ways and minds are above us and he would have mercy on whom he would have mercy.

Imagine the thief that was crucified beside jesus he knew nothing about church or baptism or justification by faith but the dude is enjoying heaven now.

Edit - Faith in Jesus alone is what gives us salvation

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Kobojunkie: 8:12pm On Jul 26, 2023

hashtagged:
■ The Bible has proven God is just. His ways and minds are above us and he would have mercy on whom he would have mercy. Imagine the thief that was crucified beside jesus he knew nothing about church or baptism or justification by faith but the dude is enjoying heaven now

God pours out His mercy/kindness on every living being every single day is what you are also told in scripture. So stop trying to use it to somehow undermine His decree. Jesus Christ made clear that except a man be born-again He can't enter into the Kingdom of God; no chance of either Heaven or Hell. undecided

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by hashtagged(m): 8:57pm On Jul 26, 2023

Kobojunkie:
God pours out His mercy/kindness on every living being every single day is what you are also told in scripture. So stop trying to use it to somehow undermine His decree. Jesus Christ made clear that except a man be born-again He can't enter into the Kingdom of God; no chance of either Heaven or Hell.

Didn't you know that Jesus preached to the dead after his death and they rose with him? Did they know Jesus?. Any how you put it all eyes would hear and have their fair chance to believe him or not. The gospel would be preached to the ends of the world. That proves he is just, we are saved by his grace and not our sacrifice and works

Goodnight kobojunkie undecided

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Kobojunkie: 9:00pm On Jul 26, 2023

hashtagged:
■ Didn't you know that Jesus preached to the dead after his death and they rose with him? Did they know Jesus?. ■ Any how you put it all eyes would hear and have their fair chance to believe him or not. The gospel would be preached to the ends of the world.
■ That proves he is just. Goodnight kobojunkie

Where exactly it written that Jesus Christ preached to the dead? Open your eyes when you read so you do not simply regurgitate the lies you have previously been fed. undecided

2. Again, where is this written so we can open our eyes to what is in fact stated apart from the lies lies have previously been fed by liars who pretend to know God? undecided

3. If you half understood what it means to say, "God is just," you would understand why insinuating that God wavers on His own Word means same as declaring Him a liar.. undecided

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Nobody: 11:12pm On Jul 26, 2023

hashtagged:
The Bible has proven God is just. His ways and minds are above us and he would have mercy on whom he would have mercy.

Imagine the thief that was crucified beside jesus he knew nothing about church or baptism or justification by faith but the dude is enjoying heaven now

The thief beside Jesus believed that He was the son of God. That was practical faith on the last minute.
Believing that Jesus was the Son of God while watching Him die...
That's basically the first necessary requirements to get to this 'paradise'.
And he'll be rewarded according to his former good acts — not dragging rights with Abraham and co.

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Kobojunkie: 12:12am On Jul 27, 2023

preciousee17:
■ The thief beside Jesus believed that He was the son of God. That was practical faith on the last minute.
Believing that Jesus was the Son of God while watching Him die... That's basically the first necessary requirements to get to this 'paradise'.
And he'll be rewarded according to his former good acts — not dragging rights with Abraham and co.

See as this one dey regurgitate the lies he was fed by his mogs and pastors with confidence? undecided

What Jesus Christ said to the man on the cross was that he(the thief) would be with Him(Jesus Christ) in paradise that same day. Nothing else! And we all know that Jesus Christ was in the grave that day and the next 2 days afterwards. lipsrsealed

Where do you get that the man worked be rewarded with all that you claim when Jesus Christ made it absolutely clear from the start that everyone must be born-again --- born of water and born of Spirit --- in order to partake in the Kingdom of God? Why are you lot quick to cast Jesus Christ as a liar any chance you all get? undecided

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by hashtagged(m): 12:29am On Jul 27, 2023

Kobojunkie:
Where exactly it written that Jesus Christ preached to the dead? Open your eyes when you read so you do not simply regurgitate the lies you have previously been fed.

2. Again, where is this written so we can open our eyes to what is in fact stated apart from the lies lies have previously been fed by liars who pretend to know God?

3. If you half understood what it means to say, "God is just," you would understand why insinuating that God wavers on His own Word means same as declaring Him a liar..

You are a bit right, Faith in Jesus alone is what gives us salvation

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Kobojunkie: 12:33am On Jul 27, 2023

hashtagged:
You are a bit right, Faith in Jesus alone is what gives us salvation

Jesus Christ said,

□ everyone must be born-again
□ Except a man be born-again, he cannot enter info the Kingdom of God
□ You must be born-again --- born of water And born of Spirit
...
□ Those who stand faithful until the end will be saved

Any idea of "faith" that does not comply with all that Jesus Christ said, will never grant either the first or second Salvation that is Jesus Christ. undecided

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by hashtagged(m): 12:37am On Jul 27, 2023

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ said,

□ everyone must be born-again
□ Except a man be born-again, he cannot enter info the Kingdom of God
□ You must be born-again --- born of water And born of Spirit
...
□ Those who stand faithful until the end will be saved

Any idea of "faith" that does not comply with all that Jesus Christ said, will never grant either the first or second Salvation that is Jesus Christ.

Faith in Jesus and not works is what saves us

Re: Will This Chinese Man Go To Hell Fire ? by Kobojunkie: 1:00am On Jul 27, 2023

hashtagged:
■ Faith in Jesus and not works is what saves us

Listen to Jesus Christ and not those meaningless soundbites you have been fed by ignorant men....

Jesus Christ said,
□ Everyone must be born-again
□ Except a man be born-again, he cannot enter info the Kingdom of God
□ You must be born-again --- born of water And born of Spirit
...
□ Those who stand faithful until the end will be saved

Any idea of "faith" that does not comply with all that Jesus Christ said, will never grant either the first or second Salvation that is Jesus Christ. undecided

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