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They say money is sweet,
Some say money is shit,
But we all know money that answers all things.
Normally money is a key,
People worship it as their king,
Forgetting that love for money is the root of all evil.

Let's look at the third temptation of our King,
The Son of the Most High G,
That's from Matthew 4, eight to eleven, now read.
Devil took Holy One up a hill,
By that time bills weren't a thing
Devil said, "Look at the whole world, I'll give it to You — You'll be rich!"

Satan said, "Look here Son of G..."
"... All these could be Yours in a twink..."
"... You only need to kneel and bow, You know — serve me"
Messiah didn't even blink,
He told Dev. "It is written..."
"... Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only!"

That's my version of the story,
But hope you see the point in it?
Jesus didn't say the Devil doesn't own the world's riches.
Money isn't the priority,
The sky isn't the limit,
You can always pass that temptation — just like Jesus did.

Lust of the Flesh, Lust of the Eyes and the Pride of Life — they all belong to this world, to the Devil.
That's the same format he used on Eve in the garden, the same format in every sin.
The Devil controls the Lusts, most riches come from him.

PS: Jesus and His disciples/apostles never really appeared or bragged about being rich.

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Don't you wonder how the devil was said to tempt Jesus with riches ? How do you temp someone with something they already have or something they have no use for... I have always wondered why? Unless the story is symbolic and not literal like we all take it to be. Becasue Jesus despite his powers didn't magically manifest wealth, even if not for himself what about his carpenter family ? If it was you I bet you would by you dad a Rolls-Royce.

Anyway why is all I am asking ?

Franzinni:
Don't you wonder how the devil was said to tempt Jesus with riches ? How do you temp someone with something they already have or something they have no use for... I have always wondered why? Unless the story is symbolic and not literal like we all take it to be. Becasue Jesus despite his powers didn't magically manifest wealth, even if not for himself what about his carpenter family ? If it was you I bet you would by you dad a Rolls-Royce. Anyway why is all I am asking?

Satan wasn't really talking about RICHES when he wanted to tempt Jesus because everything on this planet including Satan himself was created by Jesus so he owns it all as the one and only heir to all his father's belongings! Colossians 1:15-16

So what really makes Satan's offer something worthwhile?

God has arranged that Jesus will rule this planet for 1,000 years after which he must present the planet to his father {1 Corinthians 15:27-28} the way it was in the beginning when God declared saying "everything is PERFECT" Genesis 1:31

During that time millions of faithful people will have the best of life on this planet under Jesus' reign and forever but Satan knew that before Jesus could be given this prize he must fulfil the role of Christ which is serving as a servant by example and to redeem mankind by laying down his PERFECT human life as a ransom {Matthew 20:28} without fulfilling this task Jesus can't justify his right to be crowned as Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} who made it possible for peace reign among worshipers of God throughout the earth {Isaiah 2:2-4} if Jesus did not sacrifice his human life God can't justify pouring out His active force (Holy Spirit) on humans {Joel 2:28} which will help trained ones to receive God's spirit and become Born Again {John 3:5-6} this are the people that will take the Good News to the ends of the earth {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} that's why Jesus could say after fulfilling everything having to do with the Christ:

"It has been accomplished" John 19:30

That faithful day Jesus completed the task!

So Satan wanted Jesus to take a short cut without following the due process!

I know I didn't pass the message well.
Everything in this has been put under the hands Satan in a way as well, by Adam's act of committing sin (handing over that dominion to the devil by accepting sin).
That's how you should understand the word 'worldy'. The devil now has an authority over the world, and with that, he can force things into place using that authority.
He enforces lust and causes people to sin through lust: Lust of the Flesh, Lust of the Eyes, the Pride of Life, that's how every temptation works.
Eve for instance was made to see that the forbidden fruit was good for food — Lust of the Flesh (you want to have it all, eat it/s€x)
She was also made to see that fruit was pleasant to look at — Lust of the Eyes (you just want to own it because it's nice to look at)
Then, the tree will make her to be like God — Pride of Life (you want whatever will make you lift your head higher and pump your chest)

Check Jesus' 3 temptations, the same things.
Now my point is: When the devil promised Jesus the kingdoms of the world, Jesus didn't say, "You don't have power over the world".
That should show you that Satan has that power over the world, it's the same concept as selling your soul to the devil and he'll make you rich.
So typically, if we're tempted to commit sin that will lift us up financially, we should avoid it and know that this world and it's riches are not our concern — Just as it didn't concern Jesus...

The person that spoke about carpentry and all those stuff, I'm sure it was a noble profession back then. It didn't imply that they were poor.

preciousee17:
Eve for instance was made to see that the forbidden fruit was good for food — Lust of the Flesh (you want to have it all, eat it/s€x)

The forbidden fruit has nothing to do with s€x as most interpreters say rather it symbolizes something else!

Fruit is food and food don't only keep us living but also satisfy us meaning it's pleasurable, to get a clue into what really happened study Jesus' ministry and temptation diligently you will notice that he is ever ready to do the will of his father whether he grasp what God had in mind or not because he trusted his father completely but Adam wasn't satisfied with just been in control of Animals he wanted to rule over mankind!

So let's go back to the instruction they both overruled:

“From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction but as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” Genesis 2:16-17

The symbolic terms here are:
TREE
GARDEN
KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and BAD
EAT
According to Jesus TREES are likened to plans or motives of two or three persons but when others began participating observers will see the hidden motives of the two or three individuals that initiated it because imperfect humans will surely make what is hidden to become manifest when they are involved! Matthew 7:16-18
The GARDEN means there are other activities that's wholesome which people can participate and everyone will benefit maximally so there are many options.
The KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and BAD means to set STANDARDS. Jesus made us understand that whatever he says about dos and donts are all from his father and so he will not do anything contradicting his father's standard {John 5:30} but Adam wanted to be the one in control setting his own standard for other humans: POLITICS
The word EAT is a verb so it means swing into action Jesus said:
"my food is to do the will of the one who sent me and to finish his work" John 4:34
So EATING from Jesus' illustration there means doing something but instead of his own he was doing what pleases his father! John 8:28

Today 99.9999% of mankind are still eating the forbidden fruit (POLITICS) thinking human rule will bring benefits {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} but it's all a deceit from Satan the devil! Revelations 12:9 compare to 2Corinthians 4:4

God initiated s€x between the couple otherwise there is no pleasurable means of reproduction so it's not the forbidden fruit rather the fruit is POLITICS!

MaxInDHouse:
The forbidden fruit has nothing to do with s€x as most interpreters say rather it symbolizes something else!

Fruit is food and food don't only keep us living but also satisfy us meaning it's pleasurable, to get a clue into what really happened study Jesus' ministry and temptation diligently you will notice that he is ever ready to do the will of his father whether he grasp what God had in mind or not because he trusted his father completely but Adam wasn't satisfied with just been in control of Animals he wanted to rule over mankind!

So let's go back to the instruction they both overruled:

“From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction but as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” Genesis 2:16-17

The symbolic terms here are:
TREE
GARDEN
KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and BAD
EAT
According to Jesus TREES are likened to plans or motives of two or three persons but when others began participating observers will see the hidden motives of the two or three individuals that initiated it because imperfect humans will surely make what is hidden to become manifest when they are involved! Matthew 7:16-18
The GARDEN means there are other activities that's wholesome which people can participate and everyone will benefit maximally so there are many options.
The KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and BAD means to set STANDARDS. Jesus made us understand that whatever he says about dos and donts are all from his father and so he will not do anything contradicting his father's standard {John 5:30} but Adam wanted to be the one in control setting his own standard for other humans: POLITICS
The word EAT is a verb so it means swing into action Jesus said:
"my food is to do the will of the one who sent me and to finish his work" John 4:34
So EATING from Jesus' illustration there means doing something but instead of his own he was doing what pleases his father! John 8:28

Today 99.9999% of mankind are still eating the forbidden fruit (POLITICS) thinking human rule will bring benefits {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} but it's all a deceit from Satan the devil! Revelations 12:9 compare to 2Corinthians 4:4

God initiated s€x between the couple otherwise there is no pleasurable means of reproduction so it's not the forbidden fruit rather the fruit is POLITICS!

Haha! You think JW knows it all...
Apart from the fact that there are several different understandings to one thing, I said that Lust of the Flesh talks about s€x too and food and anything you want to have for yourself.
The fruit of the tree was about food. I didn't say it was about s€x.

preciousee17:
Haha! You think JW knows it all...
Apart from the fact that there are several different understandings to one thing, I said that Lust of the Flesh talks about s€x too and food and anything you want to have for yourself.
The fruit of the tree was about food. I didn't say it was about s€x.

I'm not insisting the highlighted but one thing is sure: when talking about the understanding of the scriptures Jesus knows it all and so the group he's working with!
It's OK sha.