₦airaland Forum

KingCold:
Delete this BS, she will chew you alive

Lionessza6:
Chai! See our heroes o. I go dey visit Hillbrow and prostrate for my Naija saviours o . Dem save us like this? Wow. I go yab the lazy Zulu police for una.....imagine ordinary lazy Zulus harassing these your hardworkers after you don save dem. Bloody Zulu ingrates. These my lazy ,Zulu ,HIV positive ingrates get mind o....imagine dem refusing visas to their saviours, not just saviours , the wealthiest in the world ........
Chai ...God will punish these our leaders for una o, their shakara don too much oo.
Imagine a poor slave country like SA filled with lazy people refusing to be developed by the developers of the world ....chai. Rich countries like Nigeria dey talk, and a shythole like SA dem wan talk too? . Small nyash dey shake o. How the mighty have fallen . E no go be well for the wicked ones.

Lionessza6:
Chai! See our heroes o. I go dey visit Hillbrow and prostrate for my Naija saviours o . Dem save us like this? Wow. I go yab the lazy Zulu police for una.....imagine ordinary lazy Zulus harassing these your hardworkers after you don save dem. Bloody Zulu ingrates. These my lazy ,Zulu ,HIV positive ingrates get mind o....imagine dem refusing visas to their saviours, not just saviours , the wealthiest in the world ........
Chai ...God will punish these our leaders for una o, their shakara don too much oo.
Imagine a poor slave country like SA filled with lazy people refusing to be developed by the developers of the world ....chai. Rich countries like Nigeria dey talk, and a shythole like SA dem wan talk too? . Small nyash dey shake o. How the mighty have fallen . E no go be well with the wicked ones.

Lionessza6:
I'm guessing the mocking bothers you less when it comes from one side , and more when it comes from the other side , hey? . I no go buy this your audio objectivity na . wetin the Gods of Egypt no go see for this nairaland

KingCold:
Delete this BS, she will chew you alive

Lionessza6:
LMFAO, read through the thread and the things that were discussed before and the points made( regarding the situation of both countries), and then go back to the post I just sent to you and then make up your mind if your last reply to me was not already addressed.

Or this is just your sneaky way of inserting yourself into the whole thing without looking like you're attacking ? . I can smell audio objectivity from far, so feel free to recite the usual SA rap song .........

Had you said "two shythole countries fighting " then that would have sounded as if you are addressing both groups , but you couldn't help show your real feelings

Lionessza6:
I told you , you guys have eyes but lack eyesight. You're very quick to react , without even studying your opponent . Smh

Lionessza6:
LMFAO, the point clearly went way over your head son. That was a general life lesson, you don't just reply without knowing what or whom you're replying to and what their intentions are . Learn !

Lionessza6:
LMFAO, like I said if truly that was the case you would have framed it that way from the get go..........be here forming fake diplomacy whilst sneaking in your true feelings in the same post. . You're not fooling anyone.

Lionessza6:
Go and sin no more my son

Lionessza6:


It's not my problem that your knowledge of SA is superficial at best even though you live here .
You are mad because even though you're in SA your exposure to South Africa is as limited as that of a Nigerian in Nigeria , your only talking points are the usual white people * ...Hiv** ...lazy*** . And you're shook that I can go as deep as the Biafran war which would immediately scatter your whole Nigerian team here if I wanted to take it there . Knowledge is power. Travelling alone doesn't make you knowledgeable, it can still leave you as superficial and empty as you were if you don't open yourself up to learning. You probably know nothing about SA politics and why things are currently messy even though you're here . But guess what I know a lot more about the cash -cow of Africa ( Nigeria) because it is good business to study your country trends. When trailers carrying tomatoes and other produce from the North can't enter the East because of unknown gunmen and other stupid poverty enhancing protests , I want to know about it and where else the Igbos will source these products from.

When Nigeria closes its land borders with Benin which affects importation into Nigeria from the ports of Benin . And petroleum exports to benin from Nigeria, I want to know about it. If Northeners decide to take their beef to Cameroon instead of the South, I want to know whether the Southern Nigerians will panick , jubilate or not care because they will replace them with imports , and where will they be importing from ?. I want to know the forests where illegal oil bankering takes place in the Niger delta, and how they illegally transport the refined petroleum products via the river into Benin republic and how much everyone is making in that value chain ?.

I want to know if the bandit war between some Fulani and Hausa villages will become more widespread and therefore affect food production in the North and subsequently shortages all over Nigeria ? How important are these two groups of Northerners to Nigerian food production, this I want to know. I want to know if the lagos indigenization policy will actually be approved and if so , how will it affect the Igbo vs Yoruba relations, will there be sabotages in trade ......as in the imports. And is it possible that the mass Igbo importers will be pushed aside in favour of new blood, including foreign players?

You think you have all these foreigners on this forum because they're obsessed with you or are interested in actually migling with you ? . Trolling and engaging might just be a stress reliever, a way to catch some cruise, just saying . You guys have eyes but lack vision . The underdevelopment of your country is an opportunity and its unregulated industries make it a good place to " obsesss" over . We're not all fascinated by tall shiny buildings and light you know?

Lionessza6:
Hunee , the lazy black SA stereotype actually originates from white settlers. After the fall of Apartheid labour union became more powerful in SA and with that came an end to cheap labour and standards of living went up for black people and coloureds and more people got tertiary education and as a result the boeres (who were largely uneducated themselves) who once headed the government institutions were quickly replaced and they now probably make up about 1% of every government department except in the Western cape province which will definitely be higher ( the place has the highest concentration of whites in SA) . The introduction of the welfare system by Mandela made the situation even worse for those who wanted people to clean their houses for anything less than the minimum wage , because why in the world would I wake up to go and slave away for the same money I can get by having a child and starting an informal business ?. So if you weren't going to pay any black maid , gardner, factoryworker , security guard etc ( even as a black person) their proper salary or they worked and you refused to pay , unions would close down your business with protests and other ways. And ccma would penalise your business ( order you to compensate the victim );etc.. so the white people who were not used to this were infuriated but had no choice but to comply or shift out of SA. Come 2008 and the Zim crisis hit. Many zimbos fled to SA and the labour wars started. Any exploiter was salivating from the townships and villages to the farms and surbubs...why ? Slave labour...not cheap but slavery. The zimbos had no food , some came in hungry and sick and had to be hospitalized and were stranded after being discharged. So they'd take any job for a plate of food or free accommodation, you didn't even have to pay them . Mind you a lot of these Zimbos were better educated that our labourers who probably only have matric at most. So the purging of under skilled and uneducated SA workforce started .if they wanted their normal minimum wage , then that meant losing their jobs and the only way to keep their jobs was to take the same slave wages that their Zimbos counterparts were eager to get their hands on . Some quit their jobs because they realised that they were free labour ( almost all of what they earned was spent on transportation and basic foodstaff). Some were fired for frivolous reasons. And employers , in particular the white ones would feel up the head of their slaves with * they are lazy , they don't like working, you guys are the best in the world * . So the Zimbos and other foreigners who came later started to make themselves feel better by mimicking their masters. But what they never realised is that white people keep getting richer whilst they remain working hard and living in shacks with people who will get free government housing and who get paid monthly to take care of their own kids. Basically most of the foreigners trapped in these kind of jobs have no hope of ever escaping the slums or poverty, it's a never ending cycle of working hard for nothing. That's why you will hardly find foreign nationals who are employed in the formal sector of the economy in SA because they can't out compete the SA educated workforce; cheapness of your labour is not the priority here , your skill , level of education and experience are the most important.

It's only now that Zimbos realised what they did to themselves ( wasted away doing manial jobs for nothing) and couldn't upskill. Follow the Zim permit saga. The SA is ending their special permits and they are crying all over the place , why ? Because they can't apply for special skills permits like every other nationality because most won't qualify and will have to be illegals or deported. Now their education and skills are really being put into a test: do we really need Zimbos around ? And the answer is quiet obvious......if we did , they'd be moving on to other permits.

By the way, if you check the timeline well, you will notice this is when the first xenophobic attacks hit SA....labour wars than the widely reported black on black hate. You can check this yourself.

As for how I know so much about Nigeria......I'll get back to you about that, just a bit busy now.

DUKEOFIBADAN:
Lol. Let her bring it on, my English might not be as good as her own but I know my worth and will never struggle for SA visa. I’m not like you who look up to SA as abroad. I won’t allow a Zulu child born to play with wild animals in the forest talk down on the giant of Africa. No matter what this is my country and I’m not a boot licker like you’ll who can’t talk because of one yeye E-visa. Country wey no get anything to offer and full of lazy jealous people. They should be grateful to Nigeria, if not for us I’m sure the whites will make them live in the forest. I know most of you don’t know the story because you want to go to SA just to tell people you travel abroad. @Lionessza6 incase your family don’t tell you the story how Nigeria helped your shit hole country there you go.

DUKEOFIBADAN:
Lol. Let her bring it on, my English might not be as good as her own but I know my worth and will never struggle for SA visa. I’m not like you who look up to SA as abroad. I won’t allow a Zulu child born to play with wild animals in the forest talk down on the giant of Africa. No matter what this is my country and I’m not a boot licker like you’ll who can’t talk because of one yeye E-visa. Country wey no get anything to offer and full of lazy jealous people. They should be grateful to Nigeria, if not for us I’m sure the whites will make them live in the forest. I know most of you don’t know the story because you want to go to SA just to tell people you travel abroad. @Lionessza6 incase your family don’t tell you the story how Nigeria helped your shit hole country there you go.

080bjaked:
Single traveller or couple?
That's a little less than 40k Rands so it should be good for a single traveller on 2 weeks hol if flight cost is out of it actually.

Honestly, I think it depends on the official reviewing the application, some are just sadists

Good luck.

hunee:
Very correct Kel, However, Have it in mind, Rwanda is visa on arrival, but hold some usd. I was in Kigali last year, and we paid 55usd for some kind of test, i think covid and one other before allowed entry. My hotel was just about 5mins to the airport, a place called Kanombe . It is a small country of about 8m people, and very strict with their laws. Clean, Accomodating people but shine your eyes when calculating your money with exchange guys. Payment systems are seamless , they have mpesa, moneygram and other pan african fintechs. I visited the Kigali Memorial, The Stadium , CBD, Made in Rwanda stores and couple of other places during my short stay. I hope you have a great time.

cc: Atinuke

Lionessza6:
1.You are right about one thing here , this is a Visa thread. But you're naive if you think visa enquiries aren't going overlap to the whole migration issue and that both sides aren't going to voice out their opinions about the host and the visiting community. If you went through the thread from its formative years , you would have realised that such debates and banters always take place occasionally, most started by your compatriots.

2. Both the Nigerian and SA governments cant control how the host community welcomes the guests** and how the guests act in their host countries. There are plenty of SA activivists who have voiced their concerns about the Nigerian issue to the SA government and have even visited the Nigerian embassy in SA.
But the issue isn't much of a governmental issue, this is more about everyday people . And a Nigerian forum ( especially a thread that guides the genesis of migration of Nigerians to SA) is a good enough place to air out grievances from all sides. Unfortunately no one can anticipate or control the conduct of the participants and reception of the messages across board. But such is the nature of such heated engagements. Keeping quiet helps no one. People make better and informed decisions when they're exposed.......normal people ofcourse.

With that being said , let's leave matter . Those with ears will hear.

Atinukemi23:
Just a quick one, is Rwanda visa on arrival for Nigerians travelling from Nigeria ?
Need to be very sure that I do not need to apply for the E-Visa online ?
Thanks.

Atinukemi23:
Just a quick one, is Rwanda visa on arrival for Nigerians travelling from Nigeria ?
Need to be very sure that I do not need to apply for the E-Visa online ?
Thanks.