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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 2:53pm On Jul 28, 2023
IjeBos:
Mr. Fanboy, so you read it or didn't read it? Make up your mind what lie you want to go with.
I get it, you only "read" the parts that don't require you to admit that you were made the fool and posted lies from a publication that publishes lies because they believe the people who read them are uneducated fools. Lol

So, instead of admitting a fault you'll suddenly get that deaf, dumb and blind disease you and your MAGA brethren seem to get when you're called out on your fables. My fault, the dumb part isn't sudden and it's not just a fault of yourself, but of your stars.

FYI, just cuz you keep my name in your mouth doesn't mean you'll ever be me or similar to me and just because I take the time to trash you doesn’t mean we'd ever be in the same circles in the real world.

I guess verbally beaten you down wasn't boring after all. Let's see how many more posts you pen referencing me Mr. Fanboy.
He says he’s going back to ignoring me then drops yet ANOTHER epistle about me which of course I didn’t bother to read 😂😂😂

Confusion dominates your life bro. You can’t help it. At least you’re keeping your paragraphs shorter now.

Glad I taught you something 😂😂


Harvard my 🦶
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:18pm On Jul 28, 2023
Trump's former Lawyer Ty Cobb on the new superseding indictment.

“The original indictment was engineered to last a thousand years and now this superseding indictment will last an antiquity.
This is such a tight case, the evidence is so overwhelming.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blWCQGNENwE
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98:
IjeBos:
Mr. Fanboy, so you read it or didn't read it? Make up your mind what lie you want to go with.
I get it, you only "read" the parts that don't require you to admit that you were made the fool and posted lies from a publication that publishes lies because they believe the people who read them are uneducated fools. Lol

So, instead of admitting a fault you'll suddenly get that deaf, dumb and blind disease you and your MAGA brethren seem to get when you're called out on your fables. My fault, the dumb part isn't sudden and it's not just a fault of yourself, but of your stars.

FYI, just cuz you keep my name in your mouth doesn't mean you'll ever be me or similar to me and just because I take the time to trash you doesn’t mean we'd ever be in the same circles in the real world.

I guess verbally beaten you down wasn't boring after all. Let's see how many more posts you pen referencing me Mr. Fanboy.
Musings of a mentally unstable buffoon 😂😂

I know your type. Nairaland is your escape from your otherwise failed life. That’s why you come here to inflate your ego because nobody respects you in the real world so you think you can get it from strangers on the internet 😂😂

Guys like you are usually quiet in real life. If you see me face to face I bet my last penny you can’t say half this crap to me. You go just dey stutter.

Pathetic clown 🤡 🤡
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:12pm On Jul 28, 2023
Fake news debunked. Giuliani never admitted to lying about Georgia election.

The evil media also lied about Giuliani cooperating with Jackboot Smith.

In other news Georgia Fulton courts barriers installed in preparation for Trump's indictment for questioning Georgia elections

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:16pm On Jul 28, 2023
IjeBos:
Trump's former Lawyer Ty Cobb on the new superseding indictment.

“The original indictment was engineered to last a thousand years and now this superseding indictment will last an antiquity.
This is such a tight case, the evidence is so overwhelming.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blWCQGNENwE
Laughable. Trump handed over the security tapes. He had asked whether they can delete the tapes. Indictment based on him asking whether the tapes can be deleted, but did not.
He also flashed some document about plans to invade Iran, they never found the document but since he had mentioned it , he gets indicted.

There’s no document there. Those were newspaper articles. They were copies of articles and magazines. There was no document there,” Trump, 77, told Brett Baier of Fox News in an interview, pushing back on a key facet of the federal criminal case against him.
That's my understanding.
Just throwing mud to the walls to see what will stick.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:29pm On Jul 28, 2023
Ijeboss.
Very interesting on Secret Service protection.
If Trump is jailed would he have secret service guarding him in the cells?

Kennedy Jnr , Biden main Demonrat opponent has been denied secret service protection by Joe Biden admin.

When crackhead Hunter appeared in court this week , he had secret service protection and a six vehicle motorcade.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:52pm On Jul 28, 2023
basilico:
Ijeboss.
Very interesting on Secret Service protection.
If Trump is jailed would he have secret service guarding him in the cells?

Kennedy Jnr , Biden main Demonrat opponent has been denied secret service protection by Joe Biden admin.

When crackhead Hunter appeared in court this week , he had secret service protection and a six vehicle motorcade.
If you spent some time googling you could figure out why Hunter and RFK are not similar situations. The Secret Service protects all the President's family. All Trump's Children had secret service protection even for at least 6 months after he left office.

They may protect a presidential candidate but that is the decision of Homeland Security based on a memo they put out in 2020. Two things I see off the bat, he's not polling at 15% for 30 days and he's not in a competitive Primary (the President if running for reelection generally gets the nomination of that party). So, it's not really competitive. Everything isn't a far fetched conspiracy.

https://www.secretservice.gov/protection/leaders/campaign-2020
These factors include, but are not limited to:
Whether the candidate has publicly announced his or her candidacy and has filed the appropriate documentation with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) and is in compliance with the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended, and related laws;
Whether the candidate is actively campaigning on a national basis for the office for which his or her candidacy has been announced, as demonstrated by operating a national campaign apparatus, regularly appearing at public events in multiple states, producing and publishing campaign advertisements, and other similar indicia of a campaign;
A threat assessment conducted by the Secret Service of general or specific threats directed towards the candidate. (for these purposes, “threats” should be defined as explicit threats of bodily harm to the candidate or indications of inappropriate behavior towards the candidate suggesting potential bodily harm);
Whether, during and within an active and competitive major party primary , the most recent average of established national polls, as reflected by the Real Clear Politics National Average or similar mechanism, the candidate is polling at 15% or more for 30 consecutive days;
Whether the candidate is the formal or de facto nominee of a major party for President or Vice President;
Whether the candidate is an independent or third party candidate for President polling at 20% or more of the Real Clear Politics National Average for 30 consecutive days;
Whether the candidate is the Vice Presidential running mate of the above independent or third party candidate
But Trump's Secret Service protection is interesting. By law, he is supposed to get protection for life. So, from my understanding, if he is incarcerated he would have to get protection unless they change the law. That's why I don't believe he will go to jail. Will be easier to sentence him to home arrest. Will seem unfair, but will be practical.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 6:52pm On Jul 28, 2023
basilico:
Exactly how did he destroy the economy. Listening to Dr Faucci (who demanded lockdowns and watering down of Ivermectin )
so that big pharma would reap
big on vaccines.Lay down the metrics.

Lawlfare. Using the DoJ to jail your enemies. Joe Biden has started a trend.

Join this support group and learn how doctors forced patients to take remdesvir (so)
Which led to kidney and liver failures
https://formerfedsgroup.org/remdesivir/survivors-support-group/
My boy, you are a fool.
You previously said the Iran attack doc criminal trump was flinging around was some paper clippings.
Now the DOJ is in possession of the doc, and rightly calls it the DOC.
But not to braindead idiots like you who still listens to a failing disgusting racist and evil criminal.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:31pm On Jul 28, 2023
Obrigardo:
My boy, you are a fool.
You previously said the Iran attack doc criminal trump was flinging around was some paper clippings.
Now the DOJ is in possession of the doc, and rightly calls it the DOC.
But not to braindead idiots like you who still listens to a failing disgusting racist and evil criminal.
DoJ has the document. That's OK..Do they have proof it was not declassified by the presiden?

Washington — The Defense Department memo on Iran — at the heart of the now-public audio recording that captured a July 2021 meeting with former President Donald Trump — is not part of the 31 counts of willful retention of national defense information charged in special counsel Jack Smith's indictment of the former president, a source familiar with the matter confirmed to CBS
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 11:05pm On Jul 28, 2023
feedthenation:
BREAKING: House Republicans announce congressional investigation into First Dog Commander Biden. Kevin McCarthy: “Biting is never acceptable conduct for a dog, especially the President’s dog. We will get to the bottom of it, and replace Commander with a goldfish if necessary.”


---This is a parody---
It will actually not be a silly thing to do if true. Why should there be a mad dog on the loose in the White House? The peoples house?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:49am On Jul 29, 2023
basilico:
DoJ has the document. That's OK..Do they have proof it was not declassified by the presiden?
You are dumb like a wet rock. Your criminal overlord said it on tape - he didn't declassify shit.
And did you see the new superseding indictments? You bet more are on the way.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:03pm On Jul 29, 2023
Obrigardo:
You are dumb like a wet rock. Your criminal overlord said it on tape - he didn't declassify shit.
And did you see the new superseding indictments? You bet more are on the way.
He said he has classified docs.Was he joking, did he give anyone to go through it? I highly doubt he had anything, which he knew was top secret and let anyone peruse it.

New indictment.. He wanted to delete the tapes, he did not. Charge..conspiracy to obstruct or cause someone to obstruct.
Actual obstruction NEVER happened. All tapes were handed over.
Has the particular document been produced, or it's too top secret for anyone apart from DoJ to see it?

Looks like if Trump expresses something, he is indicted for it.
For instance he said "I can't believe Biden really beat me"
And now they will indict him for that...saying that he told his aides privately that he lost, but telling the public that he won.

What kinda justice is that
The 33-377 charges in Jackboot case stem from what he told he told his lawyer. The lawyer was forced to be a prosecution witness.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 2:18pm On Jul 29, 2023
Coonery is bad business.

I thought Black conservatives said blacks should move on from slavery and stop playing victims.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:41pm On Jul 29, 2023
sanpipita:
Coonery is bad business.

I thought Black conservatives said blacks should move on from slavery and stop playing victims.
Lol.
Imagine, a week ago the coons in this thread were defending Desantis.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:46pm On Jul 29, 2023
basilico:
He said he has classified docs.Was he joking, did he give anyone to go through it? I highly doubt he had anything, which he knew was top secret and let anyone peruse it.

New indictment.. He wanted to delete the tapes, he did not. Charge..conspiracy to obstruct or cause someone to obstruct.
Actual obstruction NEVER happened. All tapes were handed over.
Has the particular document been produced, or it's too top secret for anyone apart from DoJ to see it?

Looks like if Trump expresses something, he is indicted for it.
For instance he said "I can't believe Biden really beat me"
And now they will indict him for that...saying that he told his aides privately that he lost, but telling the public that he won.

What kinda justice is that
The 33-377 charges in Jackboot case stem from what he told he told his lawyer. The lawyer was forced to be a prosecution witness.
You haven't read the original indictment.
You haven't read the superseding indictment.
But, you spend a good amount of time writing these posts about them.
FYI, you could be a better sycophant if you actually took that time and read the indictments, actually knew what Trump is accused of doing or not doing and what witnesses and evidence the prosecutors have.
That way you would know the facts and be able to spin them without looking totally foolish.
They are easy reads; read them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
IjeBos:
You haven't read the original indictment.
You haven't read the superseding indictment.
But, you spend a good amount of time writing these posts about them.
FYI, you could be a better sycophant if you actually took that time and read the indictments, actually knew what Trump is accused of doing or not doing and what witnesses and evidence the prosecutors have.
That way you would know the facts and be able to spin them without looking totally foolish.
They are easy reads; read them.
I have read Jackboots indictment.
He says Trump posseses documents he is not supposed to have and charges him for espionage... 31 counts.
What about the Presidential Records Act? Under that Act I do believe the president is entitled to keep any documents he sees fit Jackboot looked for a loophole to charge him
The other counts are based on what he told his lawyer, his lawyers notes who was forced to be a prosecution witness. If Trump told his lawyer that he wanted to burn the WHouse , Jackboot would have indicted Trump on conspiracy to damage property.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca:
sanpipita:
Coonery is bad business.

I thought Black conservatives said blacks should move on from slavery and stop playing victims.
Lmao... You post a tweet from a known libtard with no proof of what he claimed. Sanpipita... You will never change. You are okay with biden deciding who is black. You are a serious token nig. Lol

Just like the don't say gay bill lie... You libtards are on another one.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 4:24pm On Jul 29, 2023
basilico:
He said he has classified docs.Was he joking, did he give anyone to go through it? I highly doubt he had anything, which he knew was top secret and let anyone peruse it.

New indictment.. He wanted to delete the tapes, he did not. Charge..conspiracy to obstruct or cause someone to obstruct.
Actual obstruction NEVER happened. All tapes were handed over.
Has the particular document been produced, or it's too top secret for anyone apart from DoJ to see it?

Looks like if Trump expresses something, he is indicted for it.
For instance he said "I can't believe Biden really beat me"
And now they will indict him for that...saying that he told his aides privately that he lost, but telling the public that he won.

What kinda justice is that
The 33-377 charges in Jackboot case stem from what he told he told his lawyer. The lawyer was forced to be a prosecution witness.
You are just a pungent pathogen. Insanity at its peak.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 4:26pm On Jul 29, 2023
sanpipita:
Coonery is bad business.

I thought Black conservatives said blacks should move on from slavery and stop playing victims.
There's a raging civil war inside the black republiqan party. It's getting quite clear to them that the nazi-fascists elements who just hate black people and are the total racists have taken over whatever is left of the republiqan party, the one they grew up with in the days of Reagan.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:34pm On Jul 29, 2023
basilico:
I have read Jackboots indictment.
He says Trump posseses documents he is not supposed to have and charges him for espionage... 31 counts.
What about the Presidential Records Act? Under that Act I do believe the president is entitled to keep any documents he sees fit Jackboot looked for a loophole to charge him
The other counts are based on what he told his lawyer, his lawyers notes who was forced to be a prosecution witness. If Trump told his lawyer that he wanted to burn the WHouse , Jackboot would have indicted Trump on conspiracy to damage property.
Step 1: Post the actual statutes he was indicted on from the indictment and superseding indictment.
Step 2: Post the the Section from the Presidential Records Act that says the president can keep any document he sees fit. You'll probably bring up the Clinton Socks case. So also link to the ruling/holding of that case. Quote the holding and then quote the place where you think that ruling entitles Trump to keep the Records.

I am telling you that what you wrote/write sound like gibberish. Do those Steps above and you'll also agree what you wrote sounds like gibberish. Do the Steps above and you'll be in a sufficiently knowledgeable place that I'll engage you in the rest.

And FYI, you haven't read the indictments. Your posts say so.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:38pm On Jul 29, 2023
bemeruca:
Lmao... You post a tweet from a known libtard with no proof of what he claimed. Sanpipita... You will never change. You are okay with biden deciding who is black. You are a serious token nig. Lol

Just like the don't say gay bill lie... You libtards are on another one.
You are playing your deaf dumb and blind game again. If the tweet is factually wrong you would have googled it and pointed it out. It's not, so instead it's a "liberal" tweet.
Why do you even post here?
You're such a coon that you defend the shit that Actual Republican coons won't defend. Like I keep saying you're a trash person.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:42pm On Jul 29, 2023
IjeBos:
You are playing your deaf dumb and blind game again. If the tweet is factually wrong you would have googled it and pointed it out. It's not, so instead it's a "liberal" tweet.
Why do you even post here?
You're such a coon that you defend the shit that Actual Republican coons won't defend. Like I keep saying you're a trash person.
Burden of proof is on those who make a claim. The controversy to begin is based on a lie from dems like no lie with...

So, why don't you post the facts since you like to utter the word google.

You hate black people on the right, most of the people whose boot you lick are white dems... You will be the first to shout coon because they gave you DEI in Harvard making you a dumb graduate with a Harvard degree you think you are useful. Nothing to show for except drinking cokes in the bar of a hotel or posting peoples property here claiming it is yours.

Remain a token nigga... At least the racist libs will point their fingers at you and shout "I have a black friend"
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 4:56pm On Jul 29, 2023
IjeBos:
You are playing your deaf dumb and blind game again. If the tweet is factually wrong you would have googled it and pointed it out. It's not, so instead it's a "liberal" tweet.
Why do you even post here?
You're such a coon that you defend the shit that Actual Republican coons won't defend. Like I keep saying you're a trash person.
Lol leave them, they are gone and will never learn.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 4:57pm On Jul 29, 2023
Obrigardo:
There's a raging civil war inside the black republiqan party. It's getting quite clear to them that the nazi-fascists elements who just hate black people and are the total racists have taken over whatever is left of the republiqan party, the one they grew up with in the days of Reagan.
It's a shame the party is now known for extremism, too many bumbling idiots there.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 4:58pm On Jul 29, 2023
I don't see Death Santis making it as GOP presidential candidate as of now, so it's possibly Trump again.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
IjeBos:
Step 1: Post the actual statutes he was indicted on from the indictment and superseding indictment.
Step 2: Post the the Section from the Presidential Records Act that says the president can keep any document he sees fit. You'll probably bring up the Clinton Socks case. So also link to the ruling/holding of that case. Quote the holding and then quote the place where you think that ruling entitles Trump to keep the Records.

I am telling you that what you wrote/write sound like gibberish. Do those Steps above and you'll also agree what you wrote sounds like gibberish. Do the Steps above and you'll be in a sufficiently knowledgeable place that I'll engage you in the rest.

And FYI, you haven't read the indictments. Your posts say so.
You have time to be responding to him. He says the most stupid things in his rabid defense of Trump. How can the presidential records act say a president can keep any government documents he likes? The presidential records act was referring to how incumbent presidents treats records - classified or not. Where there is a dispute in the presidential records act is personal documents/records of the president and not nuclear secrets or military documents. The law can never mandate all former presidents take all government documents as his personal property.

I honestly believe Basilico's life is tied to the defense of Trump. He says one thing, if that thing is debunked, he jumps unto another, and so on. Then a few weeks later he starts the cycle again with the same debunked claim. He says Trump was showing newspaper clipping and not actual Iran invasion plans, once that has been debunked, he switches to Trump had declassified the documents (a claim that Trump's lawyers refused to present in court), if if it was debunked that there is no evidence Trump declassified the documents, he then switches to whataboutism and 2 tier justice system.

Reading his desperation at grasping any straw to defend Trump is annoying.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:14pm On Jul 29, 2023
Sanpipita and ijebos... So tell me, how does this mean what you claimed it means?

You guys are a slave to the democratic lies and you will continue to be.

Sanpipita you were called out for your lies about the don't say gay bill. You don start with new one.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m):
wirinet:
You have time to be responding to him. He says the most stupid things in his rabid defense of Trump. How can the presidential records act say a president can keep any government documents he likes? The presidential records act was referring to incumbent presidents. Where there is a dispute in the presidential records act is personal documents/records of the president and not nuclear secrets or military documents. The law can never mandate all former presidents take all government documents as his personal property.

I honestly believe Basilico's life is tied to the defense of Trump. He says one thing, if that thing is debunked, he jumps unto another, and so on. Then a few weeks later he starts the cycle again with the same debunked claim. He says Trump was showing newspaper clipping and not actual Iran invasion plans, once that has been debunked, he switches to Trump had declassified the documents (a claim that Trump's lawyers refused to present in court), if if it was debunked that there is no evidence Trump declassified the documents, he then switches to whataboutism and 2 tier justice system.

Reading his desperation at grasping any straw to defend Trump is annoying.
Lol. It's that part of me that wants to see the better angels in people.
I read this great article about speaking with people like him (MAGAS in the cult). The article's gist was basically that you can't persuade them with facts and logic but you can help them by helping them get better sources of information. So, I assume I'd prod him to actually read the stuff himself in hopes he learns how to research and ferret out the implicit biases in the things he reads.

But, the sad thing is that this stuff comes from people who know better. I try to read the National Review weekly to understand the perspective of those on the Right. National Review because unlike Fox News I thought it catered to the "intellectual" side of the Right. Holy Shit. Reading the stuff on that site by people who are intelligent and know better was alarming. They are paid to make up any argument no matter how weak or contradictory for whatever agenda they are pushing. And they do so with the supposed "qualifications" of Harvard/Yale Law Degrees or top government positions etc. Like Bill Barr. So, part of me feels a little sorry for some of the people who who buy it. It'd be hard to believe that you are being purposefully manipulated daily by the stuff you read and hear. Just like that Hunter Biden article that purposefully and erroneously said the judge rejected his plea deal that people here repeatedly reposted.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:03pm On Jul 29, 2023

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 6:37pm On Jul 29, 2023
sanpipita:
It's a shame the party is now known for extremism, too many bumbling idiots there.
Just too many eternally ruined idiots and scumbags in this republiqan party.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 7:03pm On Jul 29, 2023
bemeruca:
Burden of proof is on those who make a claim. The controversy to begin is based on a lie from dems like no lie with...

So, why don't you post the facts since you like to utter the word google.

You hate black people on the right, most of the people whose boot you lick are white dems... You will be the first to shout coon because they gave you DEI in Harvard making you a dumb graduate with a Harvard degree you think you are useful. Nothing to show for except drinking cokes in the bar of a hotel or posting peoples property here claiming it is yours.

Remain a token nigga... At least the racist libs will point their fingers at you and shout "I have a black friend"
This is some incoherent shit. Are you having a stroke?
It's like you bashed on the keyboard while using some words you don't quite understand.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca:
IjeBos:
This is some incoherent shit. Are you having a stroke?
It's like you bashed on the keyboard while using some words you don't quite understand.
Lmao. Can you show us where it says black people benefited from slavery? or slavery was beneficial to black people?
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