₦airaland Forum

adebayo987:
Niger Republic heavily depend on Nigeria for electricity, petroleum, and foods. Suffering is about to kill them if they don't bow to pressure. The problem with these Niger Republic coup guys is that they didn't consult the Oracle before taking over the government. In fact, Niger Republic will suffocate without Nigeria in a week.

How are they heavily dependent on Nigeria? Guy you are really smoking dried cow dung

Godwin4444:
I believe the headless mobs hailing them n wishing d same on Nigeria can see as d film dey play now

Many of them don’t even know d implications of what they wish on Nigeria

They believe if Nigeria is in chaos they will still b flexing around n having their freedom

Oga shut up you really don't know anything if Nigerian leader contibue in this trajectory it will happen here and it will be in a worse dimension.

[quote author=Confirmedzombie post=124762438][/quote]Your comment is worse than meaningless

FreeStuffsNG:
Asiwaju Tinubu of Lagos to the Asiwaju of Nigeria to Asiwaju of West Africa now to Asiwaju of Africa. More grace sir.

Guy you should stop all these praise singing abeg. You are too old for this. This same sanctions had no effect in Guinea, Mali and Burkina Faso.

Ikaeniyan0:
Nigeria have JF-17

and what would it do?

aklid:
Just being surprised how some people in here are showing their childish side….
Without Nigeria Niger is nothing….they know this for a long while….and how many troops have they? What do they have in stock? What is their economic values?

Sha its understandable that people saying rubbish are nothing but unpatriotic weirdos as ever…and we know them 😂😂😂🚶🏾‍♂️

How? You guys like to spew rubbish ask any Military man in Nigeria they would tell you that the most Battle hardened soldiers in West Africa that are very brutal are Niger and Chad. Be very careful what you wish for and say what you know.

pendragonbladgo:
Niger has no hope, 60% of Niger survival is from Nigeria......

I see the military of Niger loosing out in 3weeks.

Only 2Brigade in Nigeria will surrender Niger's Highest forces. But it won't get their, economic sanctions alone is enough except Iraq and Iran come for their safety, they can't stand Nigeria's hanger!

Did you smoke weed when you said all this rubbish. Niger has the most battle hardened soldiers in West Africa after Chad, they are the most brutal soldiers in battle.

Curse777:



Niger will see shege...

Tinubu would use Economic warfare to force them to surrender

Niger is Landlocked... No seaport
A no fly zone means nothing goes in or out

Let's give them a week when hunger bites hard, and they run out of basic supplies especially petroleum products.. they would run to Abuja to discuss as they always do


Niger : 12,000 active service men Military and Paramilitary

Nigerian Army alone 230,000 Service men




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You lied. The total strength of the full Nigerian Armed forces (comprising the Army, Air force, and Navy) is 223,000 personnel. Besides, only 135,000 are active. I don't know why some of you just want to mislead the reading public.

Curse777:
Ok..

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Please show us exactly how your mother raised you to talk to strangers in public

It's interesting

Mynd44, Sean, Nifpmod Dominique Obinoscopy. This is rule 2 violation cursing someone's parent. Please ban this guy in the spirit of fairness too

Omoawoke2:
A landlocked Niger will be easily dealt with in the language they understand. Once west African countries lock their borders against Niger, they are finished

Like they did against Mali, Guinea and Burkina Faso abi. Stop saying nonsense.

kezienaira:
They said ecowas impose no flight, not Nigeria impose.

Nigeria is part of ECOWAS

aklid:
Just being surprised how some people in here are showing their childish side….
Without Nigeria Niger is nothing….they know this for a long while….and how many troops have they? What do they have in stock? What is their economic values?

Sha its understandable that people saying rubbish are nothing but unpatriotic weirdos as ever…and we know them 😂😂😂🚶🏾‍♂️

Weird how you say this cause
Russia might give arms to Niger
Niger can go and trade through the north

Watcharena:
how is Nigerian oil being transported to Niger republic ,it's by road if you don't know ,from southern nigeria to Niger Republic is a long distance

try to check the map and see my point


Southern coast, is relatively safer, shorter and easier to transport anything

Brek:
Nigeria is part of ECOWAS

That's what am saying. ecowas Nigeria included imposed a sanction.
And unless they have borders with non ecowas countries, then import would be difficult.

obyno82:
Did you smoke weed when you said all this rubbish. Niger has the most battle hardened soldiers in West Africa after Chad, they are the most brutal soldiers in battle.

Oh I see, I will remind you about their surrender in just 2weeks....

obyno82:
and what would it do?

Go and make your research and find out what it can do

Kukutente23:
Really? A military junta will fold up because of cost of transportation.
Yet I'm the ignorant one.
Go and study how Mali played out before you start throwing up conjectures

Knocking down straw men can make even the most intellectually limited feel they've accomplished something. I never claimed the junta will fold for any such reason, I was pointing out the utter inanity of your claim that an ECOWAS economic blockade would have little effect because Niger could simply trade through Libya, which is economic nonsense of the first order.

omohayek:
Knocking down straw men can make even the most intellectually limited feel they've accomplished something. I never claimed the junta will fold for any such reason, I was pointing out the utter inanity of your claim that an ECOWAS economic blockade would have little effect because Niger could simply trade through Libya, which is economic nonsense of the first order.

Are you saying Niger can't trade through Libya or that it's nonsensical in terms of how economical it is?
You should know, even from Nigeria's experience that the last thing on the mind of military junta is economic expediency. Note that they've already closed the borders before Ecowas announced its sanctions. That should tell you how they think and act. It's about survival of the regime not economic buoyancy.

Kukutente23:
Are you saying Niger can't trade through Libya or that it's nonsensical in terms of how economical it is?

I'm saying that the costs of overland transport via the Sahara desert, through a Libya still in a civil war, is so much higher than it would be through Nigeria, Benin and Cameroon, that the economic impact of ECOWAS sanctions would still be devastating. Sanctions don't have to be 100% watertight to be effective.

You should know, even from Nigeria's experience that the last thing on the mind of military junta is economic expediency. Note that they've already closed the borders before Ecowas announced its sanctions. That should tell you how they think and act. It's about survival of the regime not economic buoyancy.

Yes, I never argued otherwise. The point still remains: the ECOWAS sanctions will have a significant impact on the great mass of Niger's citizens, even those who were ignorantly jubilating at the news of the coup. It may not affect the junta directly, at least at first, but it will make it much harder for the coup-plotters to distract the populace with cheap "anti-corruption" stunts when ordinary people suddenly find that their standard of living has suddenly taken a gigantic dive. That is the real point of the sanctions - to undermine whatever popular support the coup plotters might hope to enjoy.

pendragonbladgo:
Oh I see, I will remind you about their surrender in just 2weeks....

Chai you are watching too much action films walahi

omohayek:
I'm saying that the costs of overland transport via the Sahara desert, through a Libya still in a civil war, is so much higher than it would be through Nigeria, Benin and Cameroon, that the economic impact of ECOWAS sanctions would still be devastating. Sanctions don't have to be 100% watertight to be effective.


Yes, I never argued otherwise. The point still remains: the ECOWAS sanctions will have a significant impact on the great mass of Niger's citizens, even those who were ignorantly jubilating at the news of the coup. It may not affect the junta directly, at least at first, but it will make it much harder for the coup-plotters to distract the populace with cheap "anti-corruption" stunts when ordinary people suddenly find that their standard of living has suddenly taken a gigantic dive. That is the real point of the sanctions - to undermine whatever popular support the coup plotters might hope to enjoy.

You're still repeating the same thing. You need to be aware that military junta do not come into govt with a promise of economic prosperity. That's why I told you to look at Nigeria's history with military takeovers. The catchphrase is usually to restore public order and confidence, ensure the nation does not disintegrate and most importantly, stamp out corruption.
All these economic niceties does not cut any ice with military regimes. All they have to do is blame any economic malady on the previous govt and their western imperialist friends. Or you think it's only politicians like Buhari that have monopoly of blaming previous govts?
The fact is they have an alternate route that's as old as the continent itself. So just as I gave the example of Mali, the no-fly zone and economic blockade will have little to no effect. The Mali junta has been there since 2021 and recently shifted elections to Feb 2024. Similar sanctions were proffered against them with little or no effect.

Kukutente23:
You're still repeating the same thing. You need to be aware that military junta do not come into govt with a promise of economic prosperity. That's why I told you to look at Nigeria's history with military takeovers. The catchphrase is usually to restore public order and confidence, ensure the nation does not disintegrate and most importantly, stamp out corruption.

That doesn't matter. If people are suddenly starving and can see that the blame lies directly with the junta they were cheering just weeks before, then either the junta has to make concessions, or it has to start shooting and killing the very masses who were cheering it on shortly before. That destroys the last iota of legitimacy it can make any claim to, and sets the ground up for mass resistance. No regime can survive for long without the backing of at least a certain fraction of its population.

All these economic niceties does not cut any ice with military regimes. All they have to do is blame any economic malady on the previous govt and their western imperialist friends. Or you think it's only politicians like Buhari that have monopoly of blaming previous govts?

You write as if others lack the brains you have to see blame-shifting and excuse-making for what it is.

The fact is they have an alternate route that's as old as the continent itself. So just as I gave the example of Mali, the no-fly zone and economic blockade will have little to no effect.

And here is the central point I made, which you are still trying to deny: it absolutely will have a devastating economic impact. This is simply indisputable by anyone with even a cursory understanding of how transport costs affect the pricing of goods. Low-volume routes like the Sahara are only really viable for high-value items like gold, diamonds and other luxuries, not for low-value but high-volume goods that ordinary people depend on.

The Mali junta has been there since 2021 and recently shifted elections to Feb 2024. Similar sanctions were proffered against them with little or no effect.

All of this is irrelevant to the original claim you made, which was utterly wrong, as I've explained above. Just admit as much and move on.

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Mossadd:
Nigeria soldiers are about to be disgraced in Niger😆 Nigeria soldiers that will take to their heel when they see bokoharam want to go and disgrace their ancestors by fighting Niger soldiers, this is what Tinubu want to waste money gotten from subsidy on,I kuku know that Ojuyobo na pure oloriburuku that will destabilise Nigeria and West Africa

Nigeria does not need to land troops on the ground. As we speak, there are no aircraft flying over Niger. Call Nigeria anything you like but its a regional power with the strongest airforce in the region. Nothing will move above Niger airspace. Russia will not hurt its AfricN interests by supporting one dry landlocked space.

Shebi they want to welcome Putins Wagner forces to rape and kill their citizens whole exploiting their minerals. Let Wagner step near Nigeria's borders. The shege they saw in Ukraine will be multiplied unto them.

somebody is playing games with Niger Republic. Believe me Niger is about to be looted by a wicked nation. One of the natural resources abundant in Niger Republic is Uranium. if you do your homework you will understand that uranium is use for producing nuclear weapon. somebody is playing with the military.

BuhariCarryGo:
https://www.channelstv.com/2023/07/30/just-in-ecowas-imposes-no-flight-zone-on-niger-republic/

omohayek:
That doesn't matter. If people are suddenly starving and can see that the blame lies directly with the junta they were cheering just weeks before, then either the junta has to make concessions, or it has to start shooting and killing the very masses who were cheering it on shortly before. That destroys the last iota of legitimacy it can make any claim to, and sets the ground up for mass resistance. No regime can survive for long without the backing of at least a certain fraction of its population.

You sound like someone who was born post '99. Check through history on the African continent at least. How many military regime have been deposed by the citizens? Like i already told you, and there's ample evidence to back it up, military regime drive a lot of propaganda to perpetuate themselves in govt. And you thought of people starving is just wishful. People are already starving in Niger. So starvation is not exactly a novel thing.

You write as if others lack the brains you have to see blame-shifting and excuse-making for what it is.
And here is the central point I made, which you are still trying to deny: it absolutely will have a devastating economic impact. This is simply indisputable by anyone with even a cursory understanding of how transport costs affect the pricing of goods. Low-volume routes like the Sahara are only really viable for high-value items like gold, diamonds and other luxuries, not for low-value but high-volume goods that ordinary people depend on.

You're still conjuring devastating effects in your mind. How devastating has the sanctions been to Mali? I'm giving you example of Mali because it's exact same sanctions that was levied against them and nothing came of it. If it was so effective, the military regime in Mali will be out already and Niger coup wouldn't have happened.

All of this is irrelevant to the original claim you made, which was utterly wrong, as I've explained above. Just admit as much and move on.

My claim still stands. You're the one refusing to see reality. No-fly zone by ecowas is DOA because Niger is bounded by non-Ecowas countries and Ecowas does not have the wherewithal to enforce it.
The border closure is cosmetic because Libya and Mali will easily be allied towards the coup plotters while Russia is obviously going to provide back-end support along with China. Your knowledge of international politics is shallow

BreconHills:
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Nigeria does not need to land troops on the ground. As we speak, there are no aircraft flying over Niger. Call Nigeria anything you like but its a regional power with the strongest airforce in the region. Nothing will move above Niger airspace. Russia will not hurt its AfricN interests by supporting one dry landlocked space.

Shebi they want to welcome Putins Wagner forces to rape and kill their citizens whole exploiting their minerals. Let Wagner step near Nigeria's borders. The shege they saw in Ukraine will be multiplied unto them.

Same Nigeria that couldn't enforce no- fly zone on zamfara within its territory will enforce same on Niger that borders Libya and Mali?
Ok o. I laugh in Chinese rarararara

all this epistle for only me?

sparko1:
How old are you? 12?

No country in Africa have the capacity to detect a plane over 32,000 mile, let alone bring it down.

And Niger Republic is so minute in the scope of Africa map that nobody needs to pass through it borders to get anywhere.

They have zero capability for any kind of military power.

Their Total military personnel is 13,000 including paramilitaries and all. This is lower than Nigeria Navy personnel alone, Nigeria paramilitary is over 80,000.

They are what we call inconsequential.

what is your point by calling me 12 years - are you insane ? Where did Rwanda get their own anti aircraft to bring down their president's place that caused the genocide in 1994? so IF Niger have it they have to advertize it to you ? you think because the Nigerian Military has been reduced to boy's scout due to lack of proper funding - you think that i show Niger is? The military success experienced by Chad under Late President Idriss Derby against Boko Haram, was Nigerian military able to do that against the same Boko Haram ? with Russia supporting the coup leaders in Niger, can you tell what military fire power they have right now? stop talking like a child - even ordinary Boko Haram have rocket launchers and anti aircraft - you are here talking nonsense make Ecowas go there - na then ona go realize say when a little cat dares a dog to a fight, that cat has a leopard behind him - make ona go, ordinary Boko Haram ona no fit defeat in 15 years you won fight Nigerien Army, ona go collect... --- ordinary Somalia show USA pepper for Black Hawk down

In war never under estimate your enemy!!!

Ezmans:
oga Niger has a new functioning refinery but nigeria doesn't have

I'm very sorry to say but you are very dumb. Your level of thinking is on per with secondary school kids. No jokes

GIDEON OKAR

ogbonti:
what is your point by calling me 12 years - are you insane ? Where did Rwanda get their own anti aircraft to bring down their president's place that caused the genocide in 1994? so IF Niger have it they have to advertize it to you ? you think because the Nigerian Military has been reduced to boy's scout due to lack of proper funding - you think that i show Niger is? The military success experienced by Chad under Late President Idriss Derby against Boko Haram, was Nigerian military able to do that against the same Boko Haram ? with Russia supporting the coup leaders in Niger, can you tell what military fire power they have right now? stop talking like a child - even ordinary Boko Haram have rocket launchers and anti aircraft - you are here talking nonsense make Ecowas go there - na then ona go realize say when a little cat dares a dog to a fight, that cat has a leopard behind him - make ona go, ordinary Boko Haram ona no fit defeat in 15 years you won fight Nigerien Army, ona go collect... --- ordinary Somalia show USA pepper for Black Hawk down

In war never under estimate your enemy!!!

Now I know for sure you are a kid.

As I said earlier, president Tinubu doesn't need to send soldiers into Niger, he should put them at the border with Niger.

zoedew:
But its land mass is enormous! If the people don’t want the intervention a million soldiers will flee Niger with time!