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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:36pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Ladyhippolyta88:He did. Roe did shift things, but I'm not sure America is changed that much. It's still at least 4 years away, so I'll see then. But given that there may be 1 or 2 Supreme Court seats open and given the direction the country is going esp. for brown skin folk, I hate to say this, but I'm not sure I'm willing to gamble on that. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:48pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
basilico:Still seeking my attention I see. I gave you to ability to engage in a constructive discussion but you found it easier to write this drivel than read the actual indictment and argue from a place of knowledge. Go figure. I don't rate people, esp. men who attack people's partners who they don't know esp. from the safety of their anonymity. I find them to be weak and cowardly. Simply, if you want to attack her, put your name behind it and reap what you sow. Everything else is just the ramblings of a cowardly idiot. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:50pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
IjeBos:Gay tennis is being productive as usual. The man on the passenger's seat will tell you I wake at 5am and by 7am I am more productive. Lol. Guy with no specialty other than defending white privilege. Coon who does not recognize who he is. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 1:52pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
IjeBos:@bold, I don't understand what you mean here. Care to explain? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:03pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Ladyhippolyta88:A couple of Justices are getting old. So I assume Biden will get reelected and the conservative ones may hold out from retiring. So in 7 years they may not be around. So, I like Gretchen, but I think the country is sexist and so I'm not willing to gamble on her winning. I hate to say that. But, given what conservatives are doing all over the country in their quest for minority rule and racist policies, a Supreme Court not in the hands of the religious far right is important. Well, unless the Dems find a way to redo the Supreme Court. But of course, they are Dems. That is my train of thought right now. It may change in 4 years if demographics and ideologies change. But given the fever conservatives and the world seems to be in, I don't have faith in that happening |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 2:24pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
IjeBos:Oh I get your points and they are very valid. It would interest you to know that Dems now take the courts very seriously. Some of them are voting Biden because of SCOTUS, Alito and Thomas even Roberts will not retire under a Democrat in power but nature can take it's course and if it does let a Democrat be at the White House. That is why I said that Scotus was at stake in my comments earlier. That is what a lot of folks are seeing. DeSantis even said that Democrats should not win the next two election cycles because they can take back control of SCOTUS. I expect Justice Sotomayor to retire in Biden's second term. And must be replaced by a liberal, if nature takes out a conservative jurists a Democrat should be in the White House to fill that vacancy. It is what folks are saying, it's so sad the courts were not taken seriously in 2016. In 2024, Scotus is on the ballot. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 2:28pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Wow Jack Smith is made of steel. He didn't indict criminal trump for his speech at the ellipse. So he's laser focused on the conspiracy leading up to the speech and then bringing all the facts together to prove intent. Criminal trump really wanted to overturn the election and I believe this strategy by Smith will prove it rather than him involving in first amendment rights debates and arguments. That's why we have half a dozen co-conspirators with more to come. It's gonna be chilling when the Jan 6th Indictment trial starts. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:20pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Obrigardo:NY AG wants the $250 million case against Trump to proceed. This should make you extremely pleased New York AG: Our Trump Org Case Is “Ready For Trial” New York Attorney General Letitia James’ office says it is ready to proceed with a trial stemming from its $250 million lawsuit claiming former President Donald Trump, two of his children and his company engaged in widespread fraud. “The case is ready for trial,” wrote Kevin Wallace, senior enforcement counsel for the office, in a filing Monday. The September 2022 lawsuit accused members of the Trump family and Trump Organization executives of orchestrating an extensive fraudulent scheme related to valuations of property and Trump’s personal financial statements. The lawsuit is seeking $250 million and sanctions that would effectively cease the company’s operations in New York. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:30pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
basilico:All these cases must be televised so nothing is hidden from you. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 4:33pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:37pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
budaatum:Yes, when getting a loan from the bank Trump org overvalued it's assets in order to get better lon rates. That's a criminal offence. ![]() Meanwhile the bank has accessors, were they sleeping on the job? For lord's sake those were loans repayable. I did not hear the banks complain, it's the AG who saw a civil crime, wants Trump businesses closed in NYC and on top pay &250m. Who was hurt by this? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:53pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
basilico:This, and everything else. We shall watch the facts on telly and judge if we are hurt. It's what makes this interesting.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:18pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Here is your hero and Trump's Right hand man Rudy Giuliani. Conservative Values innit.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:31pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Ladyhippolyta88:You're right, they are finally getting serious. But unfortunately, it only took the overturning of Roe v. Wade for people to wake up. Aside: Check out the series HandMaid's Tale. It's surprisingly similar to where we are now and a good warning of the society some people want. There's enough blame to go around re: 2016. The biggest has to go to RBG not retiring during Obama's term, a legacy that undermines/ed all her great accomplishments. And then Obama for not fighting harder for that open seat. Though I get he thought Hilary would win. Hopefully Democrats have learned their lesson. The Republicans are focused and evil in their intent (minority rule by "Christian" fascists). So, the Dems have to be equally focused and willing to push back hard. Back to why I'm big on Newsome. I like his fight. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 6:44pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
basilico:Sometimes, the way you reason and go off on a tangent makes you look like the drunkard giulianni
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 6:49pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
basilico:Honestly, I don't understand why you just brought this up, out of the blue. Guess you managing your grief thinking of the civil case but not the highly dangerous criminal cases against criminal trump. Ok, let's put it to test. Try and make up stories about your assets then go get a loan with it, let's see how it goes. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 7:15pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Basilico , on these indictments- Listen to the take of a really smart man and a VERIFIABLE Harvard graduate who doesn’t hide behind a faceless monicker on Nairaland claiming what he’s not. I’m sure that idiot also believes this man has “never been to America” because he doesn’t subscribe to his sick radical liberal world views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJLYiQ3oUQI
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:27pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
They are actually indicting trump on free-speech. Desperate loonies. Lol |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 7:34pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
IjeBos:I have heard of the Handmaid's tale since Amy Coney Barrett was nominated to SCOTUS, her nickname is handmaid Barrett. I have the novel but I have not watched the series. I blame Bill Clinton for nominating a 60 year old woman to SCOTUS and could not find a younger person. RBG should have retired the time Obama put Sotomayor and Kagan on SCOTUS because it would have been difficult in his second term. That is where those Democrats who did not vote Hillary Clinton and White Women who voted for Trump take the blame. I am happy Justice Breyer retired. I expect Sotomayor to do same in Biden's second term. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 7:39pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Ijebos and Obrigado It would interest you to know that there is now a Liberal majority in Wisconsin Supreme Court and Democrats in Wisconsin have taken the first step of doing away with Republican gerrymandering. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/wisconsin-lawsuit-asks-new-liberal-controlled-supreme-court-101956321 The next is to overturn the State's abortion ban in the coming months. Democrats have retaken the Blue wall it will be difficult for Trump to win it next year. The only good side of a Trump presidency was making Democrats take things seriously at the cost of losing Roe v Wade but there is hope that they will win against MAGA. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:06pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
MentalCase98:Ben Shapiro is a smart ass. The indictments are a sham. The crazies want to prevent Trump from running by all means whether it's a 600 year jail sentence. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 9:15pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
basilico:Ben Shapiro is what a true Harvard graduate should sound like. Articulate without being unnecessarily verbose, intelligent without being condescending or arrogant, plus he exhibits the refinement, finesse and mannerisms in his speech and presentations that should come with going to such an elite school. A well cultured man. Not like that autistic thug on this thread who keeps shouting form the mountains about how rich his family is like a raving lunatic. Anyone who believes that uncouth piece of shit has ever seen the four corners of an Ivy-league school is naive. Yes the indictment is complete garbage. Even in the very liberal DC you will never get 9 jurors to convict Trump on these charges. At best you get a hung jury. They know it will fail. It’s all about keeping attention of the Biden crimes and trying to stop Trump from running becuase he’s scared of him. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 10:17pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
basilico:Don’t forget that even if they get a hack DC jury to convict, the charges will be appealed to the Supreme Court where it will 100% be thrown out. That’s exactly what happened in another one of serial loser Jack Smith’s cases against former Virginia governor Bob McDonnell. Smith filed flimsy charges, a hack jury convicted him and it was subsequently overturned by the Supreme Court. That’s exactly what’s going to happen here. Most of these charges are a violation of Trumps free speech rights.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 10:17pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Ladyhippolyta88:You make a good point. Going to shift some of my donations to the Sate Supreme Courts. If State Courts can curtail gerrymandering, we can pick up some more seats. Let's see how the electoral college looks in 2024. Hopefully GA is in the blue column going fwd. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 10:25pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Wow National review didn’t hold back. Must read article completely dismantling the flimsy charges in thug face Jack Smith’s bullshit indictment. https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/08/this-trump-indictment-shouldnt-stand/
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 10:46pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
MentalCase98:Allow them to throw bones for the religious zealots Obrigardo, budaatum and the gay tennis ijebos. They have been singing indictment indictment as a gospel in their religious cult. Let them preach trump trump more than trump supporters. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:28pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Jack Smith lied to indict trump for lying. Since when is lying a crime? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 12:11am On Aug 03, 2023 |
Criminal trump will die in penury. I strongly believe this is the case that will destroy and disqualify the criminal from office for life. This will break the republican primary violently! watch out!
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 12:13am On Aug 03, 2023 |
bemeruca:Stop talking like a clown and point out the lies. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:19am On Aug 03, 2023 |
Let the Republican fracture begin. I checked out National Review yesterday and read a rather weak Editorial criticizing the indictment using all the weak arguments Republicans tend to use in support of Trump. It seemed sloppy and rushed. https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/08/this-trump-indictment-shouldnt-stand/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=hero&utm_content=related&utm_term=second Another writer on their staff Noah Rothman wrote a better written counter editorial today, calling out the lapses in yesterday's Editorial. https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/08/january-6-was-a-crime/ The Republican party is one giant grift from top to bottom. Looking fwd. to the impending civil war. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 3:17am On Aug 03, 2023 |
Everyone knows these charges are week. All the fools ejaculating all over this thread thinking these charges will put Trump in jail are in for another major heartbreak hahaha Thug Smith filed this as a backup to the Florida charges (a much stronger case) because he knows he can’t get a conviction of Trump in Florida. But even if he gets a conviction here it will 100% be thrown out by the Supreme Court becuase the charges are such horse shit. Hahahaha. Poor nairaland libs. I know how much it pains you that your pipe dream will never come true. Especially that mentally deranged Obrigardo. My prayer is that he doesn’t eventually commit suicide when the whole thing falls apart. That lunatic’s passion for Trump’s downfall is incredible.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 3:26am On Aug 03, 2023 |
Liberal lunatics be like: “Damn! That pesky 1st amendment getting in the way of our authoritarianism again”. They must hate it even more now 😂😂
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