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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by DeepSight(m): 12:10am On Aug 05, 2023 |
wirinet:It is natural that governments of the earlier part of a nation's existence would put in the most key and fundamental infrastructural framework. That is a function of a given period, not a function of the nature of the government. Unless you wish to assert that if there was never military intervention we would never have built those basic infrastructural frameworks. I agree that absolute power depends on the benevolence of the dictator in power , but I disagree that absolute power by one man can never be a good thing. Infact throughout history, the highest and fastest progress was achieved under dictatorship. From Caesar's Rome to Ancient Egypt to Victorian England to modern China.This is disputable, there have been democratic realms such as ancient Greece and the Unted States which have catapulted humanity's progress in ways no other societies have. I hear you on the Electoral College in America, but that anomaly is not sufficient to claim that it is a dictatorship. Democracy in Africa seems never to be able to correct itself but keeps on repeating the same mistakes, which are election rigging, sit tightism if civilian rulers, corruption and tyranny of the ruling elite.It will take time. Rome was not built in a day. Europe has been through centuries of horror to arrive at where it is today. Do not expect any less here. There is no miracle anywhere. We have to go through the time and learn the lessons and build the institutions. That is normal and natural. Democracy is not even an absolute term but relative. The US is not a true democracy in the true sense of the word. The electoral college system does not necessarily depend on the votes of the electorate, but on electors sent by the states and approved by Congress. This anomaly was what Trump tried to exploit by trying to send an alternative set of electors not reflected by the actual votes. If the vice president and Congress had accepted the alternative electors, the votes would not have mattered and trump would have been sworn in as president.While I agree with these, it still would be stretching things to call either a dictatorship of one man. They simply are not. At the end of the day the real question you will have to grapple with is if you would prefer that the Military come back in Nigeria and we just forget about democracy permanently. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Obrigardo: 12:41am On Aug 05, 2023 |
Criminal trump must die in jail He will be having a bail hearing pretty soon.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Obrigardo: 12:42am On Aug 05, 2023 |
Ekemeze:Well, I ain't the one with 78 felony convictions. ![]() Fool. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Obrigardo: 12:44am On Aug 05, 2023 |
IjeBos:It's great to witness the closing stages of this con man criminal. He will die in jail. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:28am On Aug 05, 2023 |
MentalCase98:I don't care whatever you say mental. I hardly ever read you in fact so you can't bully me. And I'm not your victim. It's your juvenility you see. That which makes you make up crap to believe then presume to be saying anything worth listening to. Or do you seriously think your opinion about anything is worth listening to having heard you make up crap about buda? You are mental indeed, but more mental is to engage you knowing how quickly you go potty mouth. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IjeBos(m): 4:13am On Aug 05, 2023 |
bemeruca:I figured you couldn't. You'd probably brake out in Cold sweats on day 2. Makes sense with your obsessive compulsive need to get my attention. I guess that's what happens when the mentally unstable idolizes someone. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 4:44am On Aug 05, 2023 |
IjeBos:You must be having a very productive day figuring out stuff. You are good at what you do. A full time nairaland addict. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 6:31am On Aug 05, 2023 |
BraniacX:Addendum. Biden and Sanders forged a pact in July 2020 that effectively pushed Biden to the further progressive left Sanders doesnt describe himself as Marxist/Communist. Instead he uses socialist or progressive to hoodwink. Dems at heart are heading to full blown communism. Which don't sell, they use Saul Alinsky Rules. They accuse the other side of doing exactly what they are doing. https://sliwainsights.com/saul-alinskys-12-rules-for-radicals/ Obama and Hillary Clinton greatly admired Saul Alinsky.Hillary thesis was on Saul Alinsky who honored Lucifer in his book. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/20/hillary-clinton-saul-alinsky-and-lucifer-explained/ Obama was inspired by Saul Alinsky to become a community organiser in Chicago. Ben Sanders is all communist, His honeymoon was in Russia. He spent months in a kibbutz, a small collective community and farm in Israel. They later kicked him out I think of being lazy. Who are the Marxists of today- Democrats or Republicans? Download the pact from here https://joebiden.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/UNITY-TASK-FORCE-RECOMMENDATIONS.pdf It contains nothing positive about the state of America at the time. I have seen comments here about Democracy, the beauty of a one man rule ,read China. Support for military dictators has been espoused too, also explored was the advantages of benevolent dictators That is what is being taught in colleges today a first step to brainwashing left/progressives next generation. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ekemeze: 7:00am On Aug 05, 2023 |
Obrigardo:. So why masturbate all over nairaland celebrating when he's definitely not going to jail for any ? . Lol idiot You may even die from mass shooting before Trump is jailed 😂😂😂, better watch your back you hate filled piece of shit 🤡🤡🤡 |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 11:40am On Aug 05, 2023 |
Jack Smith was sent exculpatory documents before the indictment latest. He received them Then days later asked for the same documents. When indicting he had not gone through them. Probably because he needed to water down Devon Archer's testimony immediately and Georgia was not ready. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernard-kerik-donald-trump-records-may-not-have-been-reviewed-by-special-counsel/ source close to Kerik's legal team said at the time that they believed the records, which include sworn affidavits from people raising concerns about the integrity of the 2020 presidential contest, show there was a genuine effort to investigate claims of voter fraud in the last election |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by MentalCase98: 11:51am On Aug 05, 2023 |
Ekemeze:lol are you new here bro? You are arguing with the village idiot. A well known wack job who never says anything sensible or even coherent. Not a good use of your time. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 12:02pm On Aug 05, 2023*. Modified: 12:21pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Jackboot accuses Trump of conspiracy to defraud Ijeboss and his cohorts of election results. Meaning he knew senile Joe got more votes but he conspired to lie that it was a rigged election. Jackboot has to prove that Trump knew he had lost yet went ahead to claim he won. Verily verily I say unto you with an example or two. Obama decreed that the senate was in recess and went ahead to appoint some people to the Labour Commission 2013-14. Senate was not in recess in reality. Obama knew this was a lie or at least his legal advisors must have told him.The Supreme Court struck down his appointments. Jackboot would have indicted Obama on this, conspiring to defraud the USA. By the same reasoning Smith indicts Trump for saying the elections were rigged and seeking state help to review electors and votes in an election everyone believes was rigged. Joe Biden before midterm elections erased student loans. He personally said he didn't have legal authority yet went ahead with the waiver. Pelosi had said " People think POTUS has powers to erase student loans, he does not have". Jackboot would indict Biden for this. Joe knew very well he didn't have the powers yet went ahead. The Supreme Court stopped him.Joe conspired to defraud the govt. In other words Smith indictment is a total sham.political stunt that should not be allowed, Smith should be jailed.He is the criminal here, breaking the law to find a crime to pin on Trump and interference in rigged-to-be elections. Addendum. Judges in DC courts who have jailed J6 protesters were in the courtroom for the indictment. Presiding judge has sentences J6 protesters (including grandmother's) to more jail terms than sentencing recommendations. Trump will not get a fair trial by jury in a place where he got 5% of the votes. As for Jan 6 riots, the protesters did not disrupt the official proceedings.Pelosi stopped the certification of the electors immediately after someone told her some pipe bombs had been found outside the RNC and DNC offices. FBI has never arrested the dud bomb planter. They have call records of everyone around there, this bomb planter is on CCTV till some subway and he sat down on a lawn and made some phone call. All on CCTV. Jackboot says the session was obstructed by the rioters,in actual fact it was the bombs found.Jackboot never mentioned this. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IjeBos(m): 12:33pm On Aug 05, 2023*. Modified: 8:05pm On Aug 06, 2023 |
Ekemeze:It's ok to be a conservative you don't have to pretend. He may be passionate about Trump, but he's not wrong. Trump will be in History one of the most malignant forces in US History. (save this post and in 10 years you'll see I was right) He tried a coup because he lost an election. He is a singularly destructive force in the US and around a world because he and his Republican party have highlighted the shortcomings of Democracy. A feat that has led to the rise of authoritarianism around the world even in Israel. What he is being charged with is a fraction of his illegality. He not only belongs in Prison, he belongs under the cell. You may hear different in the conservative forum you read. But no reasonable person believes otherwise. Take the contrapositive of that statement. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 12:41pm On Aug 05, 2023*. Modified: 1:01pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
basilico:An earlier post I made about Trump objections to the rigged elections . Video of Dems objecting the electors and another video of the Jan5 pipe bomb planter . Whom the most efficient investigating agency in the world has never arrested. I correct myself. The objections were stopped after news of pipe bombs being found. The news relayed to Pelosi led to her minutes before Ray Epps led group breached the first barrier and the second stopping the session pronto Adjournment took place before the "rioters' breached the barrier. In true sense and reason, after resumption of the certification session Pence did not have the authority to call in the objectors.Count the electoral votes to declare JB the duly rigged in POTUS. In this upcoming sham trial all this will come out. Trump has subpoena powers of the day as part of the discovery process. jackboot exculpatory material to defence does not include the J6 shenanigans orchestrated by the feds. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IjeBos(m): 12:50pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
bemeruca:These are the username and time spent for the known usernames of yours. On one of your usernames (benalvino) you have spend more time on here than I have on my 1 and ONLY account. People in glass houses definitely shouldn't be throwing stones.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 12:59pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
IjeBos:Report him and have him banned. 'elites' know everything and so Ben should be banned |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by MentalCase98: 1:02pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
IjeBos:That is what you guys believe. People on the other side see in Trump a man who has been unfairly and viciously targeted by a weaponized justice system because the elite class hate not just him but the common man in middle America whom he represents. They NEVER want to see a populist like him become president ever again so they are doing everything in their power to make an example of him and take him out. Every new ridiculous indictment of him only strengthens this belief among his supporters. There will never be a single popular consensus on Trump so you can forget all this talk about History. He will always be a polarizing figure. Half of America will always see him as a villain, the other half will remember him as a man who sacrificed his life of luxury to go through hell just to fight for them in the corrupt DC system. He will be regarded by them as a martyr Because to me that is exactly what happened. Trump didn't need to be president. He was popular across America before he became president and we all know none of these legal issues he is going through now would have been happening if he hadn't ran for president, won and pissed off the DC elite and intelligence agencies. They have thrown everything at this man and he is still fighting. Hate him or love him you can't deny this man is extraordinary. 99% of men would have broken if put through half the shit he has gone through. This is how we see him and no matter how much you rant and cry on nairaland it wont change nothing. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 1:04pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
MentalCase98:But but his mean tweets. Liberals need a safe space where they feel secure. Impeach Trump.Ban him from Twitter, Facebook, YouTube IG etc. Democrats (sarcastic) believe in free speech...or is it First Amendment. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IjeBos(m): 1:06pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
basilico:Fact Check: This user has not read the indictment. The First Amendment argument is a canard. The indictment is not charging Trump with only his speech (merely claiming he lost the election), but the actions he took afterward like creating false electors to try to steal peoples votes. It's like Tony Soprano ordering someone to kill someone. That person does. Then Tony Soprano saying his order to kill the person was 1st Amendment protected speech. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IjeBos(m): 1:12pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
basilico:So it is "elitism" to believe everyone should be treated equally and follow the rules? Why should Ben and someone like Slyfoxx be treated differently than every other poster here who follows the rules? He broke the rules here, got banned and just created a new username to continue breaking the rules. I understand because he is incapable of controlling himself he may seem the victim. But he is not a victim. But thanks for the clarification of why the Republican party is in the shambles it is and supports Trump. Clearly, you feel rules don't apply to you. Tell me how well that is working out for Nigeria. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 1:17pm On Aug 05, 2023*. Modified: 1:33pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
IjeBos:James Hadley Chase and Nancy Drew wrote fictional books on crime. Someone executed their plans. Charge Hadley or Nancy Drew. ( We had a home library of Hadley Chase, Nancy Drew, Perry Mason. I still remember "No orchids for Miss Blandish" I'll look for their paperbacks.) Boy You so out of yourself Charge the movie producer. Charge Trump for calling protesters to a rigged election. Where a basement Biden won the most votes in history. You R A Sick puppy |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by MentalCase98: 1:35pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
basilico:I am convinced that no man on earth since Jesus Christ himself has been persecuted and prosecuted as much as Trump. Kilode?! Even some of the most genuinely evil men of history from Mao to Hitler never had the law unleashed on them like this. Trump has been investigated by the FBI, the CIA, the DOJ, 3 special counsels, multiple state attorneys general, foreign intelligence agencies in Britain, Australia, Canada, Ukraine etc. It's becoming overkill. With this much targeting you would think they would have nailed him for something major like genocide or running a multi-billion dollar drug and sex trafficking empire. Instead all they have is payments to a porn star, mishandling some paperwork and using his free speech rights to question an election. All that firepower for these relatively minor alleged offences?? Its honestly ridiculous. Liberals don't realize the more they target him like this the more legendary he becomes amongst his base. Its a lose-lose for them. A simpler strategy for defeating Trump would have been just to ignore him But they can't. They are as obsessed with him as he is obsessed with attention. Its a very strange symbiotic relationship. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 1:38pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
IjeBos:Freedom to express yourself is a guarantee.You don't want them, unfortunately Sein has not provided a platform where you can block OPs and not see what you post. A feature WordPress allows, Sein has his own homegrown website. Deal with it. Ship up or ship out. I actually enjoying deliberating with some people, builds up on how I advice my 3 girls advice , they are about to face the world on their own Yahoo boys like you will be on my scope. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IjeBos(m): 4:17pm On Aug 05, 2023*. Modified: 4:40pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
basilico:So, I can walk into your house, sit on your couch and start saying whatever I want and when you tell me to leave, I can just tell you, "No, I have freedom to express myself" and you have to let me stay and speak? You should try deliberating with yourself first or "think" as we call it. You wouldn't write should breathtakingly stupid stuff. And don't mention me in the same sentence with your daughters again. You won't like what I have to say. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 5:39pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
IjeBos:Me. Productivity sounding like an Harvard DEI graduate 🤣 Addiction to naira land is your problem... Russia Russia Russia too |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by MentalCase98: 7:08pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
bemeruca:POV: IjeBos everyday trying to figure out who is behind every conservative Nairaland monicker.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by MentalCase98: 7:29pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Was there ever any doubt?
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IjeBos(m): 8:57pm On Aug 05, 2023*. Modified: 9:26pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
MentalCase98:Femi, I've known it was you a long time ago. You have an obsession with me; your first post as Timesup2345 was about me. You have an obsession with 1stgenAmerican. You have an obsession with this thread. You have an affinity to Basilico and Benalvino3 uncommon for someone new to this thread. You are obsessed, mentally ill and incapable of helping yourself. Maybe that'll be a good defense for you one day. In the process you have exposed yourself as a wannabe terrorist of the US and Americans. Sit with that for a f*xin'g second. I told you a while ago you are stupid and self destructive. You double down and triple down on it daily. Unfortunately for you I have almost a photographic memory. Here are two similar posts, one of you as SlyFoxx and the other as MentalCase98. Look at these points of similarity: what you are posting about, the wording of the posts, the phrases you use "smart man", "never been to America" etc., things you are referencing (never been to America) and what you CAPTALIZE. Tell me what the probability is that 2 people in the world would make a post with all those exact points of similarity.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by MentalCase98: 9:19pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
IjeBos:Bahahahahahaha. What did I say? You just prove my point. This you right now bro. Jobless fvck. Btw post too long again I didn’t read
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Obrigardo: 9:23pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
IjeBos:What is it with obsessive compulsive disorder disease? I know that is one killer of a mental illness. This sewer rat needs to go. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by MentalCase98: 9:25pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
Obrigardo:Get back to the asylum you sicko 😂😂 IjeBos is jobless and stupid, you are both jobless and clinically insane |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Obrigardo: 9:27pm On Aug 05, 2023 |
IjeBos:I think he has done well to provide the evidence to you. Please act accordingly as you have always done so we can continue our rich conversations. cc: Mynd44, mukina2, HumbledbYGrace, osystein 19. Don't use alternate accounts to access Nairaland after being banned. If you do, make sure we don't find out. |
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