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Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 11:38pm On Aug 04, 2023
vivalavida:
Thanks to this thread, I have bought a thermostat for my car. I am fixing it tomorrow and returning the fans back to automatic.
While doing this, is there any other thing I need to do? Do I need to take the radiator to car wash? Please tell me guys.
Check your radiator hoses for leakages, and your radiator itself. Ensure the rewire working on your car is sound and not an incompetent person.

Wish you the best of luck! Update us with the progress o.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by alienvirus: 12:16am On Aug 05, 2023
Spray:
You later bought another thermostat? If yes how much please?
I had the old one with me which was returned.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by vivalavida(m): 12:15pm On Aug 05, 2023
theadeola:
Check your radiator hoses for leakages, and your radiator itself. Ensure the rewire working on your car is sound and not an incompetent person.

Wish you the best of luck! Update us with the progress o.
I have done it this morning. I am gradually seeing an improvement already. It used to take a long time for my car to reach the normal operating temperature. Sometimes I will drive for 30 mins before it does so. But it is now reaching faster. At about 3 mins after start up, it is already at normal operating temperature. Even the error code P2185 i have been battling with has cleared. I will be monitoring the fuel economy now and will revert back.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Angrygoat: 1:55pm On Aug 05, 2023
It wil still overheatl
vivalavida:
Thanks to this thread, I have bought a thermostat for my car. I am fixing it tomorrow and returning the fans back to automatic.
While doing this, is there any other thing I need to do? Do I need to take the radiator to car wash? Please tell me guys.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by vivalavida(m): 3:01pm On Aug 05, 2023
Angrygoat:
It wil still overheatl
Been driving all day with my scanner plugged on to monitor real time temperature. It has not overheated.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Spray(op): 5:29pm On Aug 05, 2023
vivalavida:
I have done it this morning. I am gradually seeing an improvement already. It used to take a long time for my car to reach the normal operating temperature. Sometimes I will drive for 30 mins before it does so. But it is now reaching faster. At about 3 mins after start up, it is already at normal operating temperature. Even the error code P2185 i have been battling with has cleared. I will be monitoring the fuel economy now and will
revert back.
What point is the normal temperature?
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Spray(op): 6:20pm On Aug 05, 2023
vivalavida:
I have done it this morning. I am gradually seeing an improvement already. It used to take a long time for my car to reach the normal operating temperature. Sometimes I will drive for 30 mins before it does so. But it is now reaching faster. At about 3 mins after start up, it is already at normal operating temperature. Even the error code P2185 i have been battling with has cleared. I will be monitoring the fuel economy now and will revert back.
And if your fan is on automatic, how far will the car work before the fan start working
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 10:42pm On Aug 05, 2023
Angrygoat:
It wil still overheatl
Your utterances line up perfectly with your name.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 10:45pm On Aug 05, 2023
vivalavida:
Been driving all day with my scanner plugged on to monitor real time temperature. It has not overheated.
And it won't.

Billions of dollars in research and development supports this. Car makers are not stupid, so don't mind any angry goat saying otherwise.

Once your cooling system is fine, no overheating.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 10:45pm On Aug 05, 2023
Spray:
And if your fan is on automatic, how far will the car work before the fan start working
This is a good thing to know, as it will help you pick up if anything looks like its going wrong.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Angrygoat: 9:55am On Aug 06, 2023
It must overheat. Highest 1 month.. let's place a bet
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Born2conquer: 9:17pm On Aug 06, 2023
theadeola:
The recommended oil for your car is 0W 20 or 5W 20. Please Google it to confirm. No modern car has 20W 50 as recommended oil. None!
0W 20 is the recommended oil for my car too, where can I get it in Nigeria?

Total and Mobil all have only 20W ish
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 11:37pm On Aug 06, 2023
adexrocque:
I have used 20w 50 on my Toyota Matrix 2003 since I got it as Tokunbo 3 years ago. I wanted to change it to the recommended oil last year but my mechanic said the engine might react to it in a funny way. What do you think?
If u have sludge, then yes , bad for engine to change.

But If u have being changing oil at regular intervals & have no sludge, then u can first start with semi-synthetic(mobile xhp 2000, total 5w30 etc), do it a few times, then go for fully synthetic ( U should know though, synthetic oil freaking expensive)...

But does even 2003 car need a fully synthetic?..I think a mineral oil of correct weight would do just fine..
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 7:13am On Aug 07, 2023
Born2conquer:
0W 20 is the recommended oil for my car too, where can I get it in Nigeria?

Total and Mobil all have only 20W ish
If you're in Ibadan, I can help you get either Mannol 0W 20/5W 20, or Yuko 0W 20/5W 20.

For our weather here, there's no difference between 0W 20 and 5W 20, as they are both 20 weight oils and have the same temperature range.

If you're not in Ibadan but are still interested, I can arrange for it to be shipped to you. Just let me know what you decide.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 7:16am On Aug 07, 2023
Elsueno:
If u have sludge, then yes , bad for engine to change.

But If u have being changing oil at regular intervals & have no sludge, then u can first start with semi-synthetic(mobile xhp 2000, total 5w30 etc), do it a few times, then go for fully synthetic ( U should know though, synthetic oil freaking expensive)...

But does even 2003 car need a fully synthetic?..I think a mineral oil of correct weight would do just fine..
That car requires synthetic oil o. Manufacturer specifies 5W 30 with API SL (energy conserving). I don't think any semi-synthetic oil has that API rating. I might be wrong, but I don't think so.

Other than that, your oil change method is brilliant, if there's no sludge like you said.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 7:16am On Aug 07, 2023
Angrygoat:
It must overheat. Highest 1 month.. let's place a bet
Lol. You have been observed, and ignored.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Angrygoat: 7:54am On Aug 07, 2023
Dont worry. Shame wont lèt him open up. Idiots
theadeola:
Lol. You have been observed, and ignored.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Born2conquer: 2:36pm On Aug 07, 2023
theadeola:
If you're in Ibadan, I can help you get either Mannol 0W 20/5W 20, or Yuko 0W 20/5W 20.

For our weather here, there's no difference between 0W 20 and 5W 20, as they are both 20 weight oils and have the same temperature range.

If you're not in Ibadan but are still interested, I can arrange for it to be shipped to you. Just let me know what you decide.
How much? And can I still change to it since I already used 20w?
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 8:16am On Aug 08, 2023
Born2conquer:
How much? And can I still change to it since I already used 20w?
Depends on how long you've been using the 20W 50, how often you change your oil and the distance you covered between each oil changes. And also sludge. You can give me the information so I'll be able to better advice you.

For the oil prices, depends on the one you want to pick, but the range is between 22-27k minus shipping.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by GreyBlood: 10:38am On Aug 13, 2023
I'm glad to stumble on this thread. I drive an old benz c230 2006 model, last year the AC wasn't working properly and I went to the mechanic to check. There they changed everything to manual telling me automatic isn't good.

My car has never been the same again, it swallows fuel like crazy, fan blows at high speed when I'm on traffic and the AC doesn't work when this happens.

The car seems to accelerate normal but I noticed the fuel consumption and few abnormalities. Thinking of doing proper check of the catalyst and all. Any suggestions? Of good mechanic around Ikeja that can help me check this and probably return the fan to automatic?
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Angrygoat: 10:29pm On Aug 13, 2023
Ac manual or not,fan connected direct or not..AC manual is same voltage as auto.u suppose know say AC dey chop fuel. Dont even go there on a 4 plug or v6 with AC. The koko na plugs. No car in nigeria is running on premium plugs. Toks own na like 85% used. New na clone. Observe your plugs and catalysts. Also these days they blow air into your tank than gas/fuel,wohala for who dey buy full tank. U go pay like white.... calculate taya,confusion go taya u.... carry keg and refuse to be cheated at filling station. Carry keg for booth,park inside filling station....buy fuel insde keg..when u reach where you dey go. Pour the fuel inside car. Use AC. If e still chop fuel. Park the car,give me key fast.
GreyBlood:
I'm glad to stumble on this thread. I drive an old benz c230 2006 model, last year the AC wasn't working properly and I went to the mechanic to check. There they changed everything to manual telling me automatic isn't good.

My car has never been the same again, it swallows fuel like crazy, fan blows at high speed when I'm on traffic and the AC doesn't work when this happens.

The car seems to accelerate normal but I noticed the fuel consumption and few abnormalities. Thinking of doing proper check of the catalyst and all. Any suggestions? Of good mechanic around Ikeja that can help me check this and probably return the fan to automatic?
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Spray(op): 8:24pm On Aug 15, 2023
theadeola:
This is very wrong advice. Pls don't remove your thermostat and run fans direct. You will cause the engine to always run below the operating temperature, and your ECU will increase fuel entering the cylinder in a bid to get the temperature up. The fans constantly running will also weaken them and overcool your engine. Your fuel consumption will increase, your engine will likely have sludge and you'll be needing a replacement engine in no time.

Leave your car as it is. If you have an overheating problem, find the cause and fix it, not masking the problem with thermostat removal and fan conversion.

Also, while you're at it, find the recommended oil weight for the car and stick to it. Don't use 20W 50 as most "mechanics" advice. They are not smarter than the car manufacturer.
Bro, thanks alot. I have gotten another thermostat plus my fan now on automatic. System working fine and smooth. Nigeria mechanics sha
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 9:09pm On Aug 15, 2023
Spray:
Bro, thanks alot. I have gotten another thermostat plus my fan now on automatic. System working fine and smooth. Nigeria mechanics sha
You're welcome bro. Keep taking care of your car, and it would keep taking care of you.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 2:39pm On Aug 16, 2023
GreyBlood:
I'm glad to stumble on this thread. I drive an old benz c230 2006 model, last year the AC wasn't working properly and I went to the mechanic to check. There they changed everything to manual telling me automatic isn't good.

My car has never been the same again, it swallows fuel like crazy, fan blows at high speed when I'm on traffic and the AC doesn't work when this happens.

Don't know if Gazzuzz works on mercs, but he'd be a good option.

The car seems to accelerate normal but I noticed the fuel consumption and few abnormalities. Thinking of doing proper check of the catalyst and all. Any suggestions? Of good mechanic around Ikeja that can help me check this and probably return the fan to automatic?
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by oilyngbati(m): 4:27pm On Aug 17, 2023
Spray:
Bro, thanks alot. I have gotten another thermostat plus my fan now on automatic. System working fine and smooth. Nigeria mechanics sha
Glad it worked out for you,,,please help educate others on the importance of keeping their thermostats and fans as the manufacturers recommended. Many Nigerian mechanics have destroyed people’s vehicles with this singular act of removing thermostats and connecting fans directly.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Musty4ahmed1: 5:46pm On Sep 15, 2023
theadeola:
Depends on how long you've been using the 20W 50, how often you change your oil and the distance you covered between each oil changes. And also sludge. You can give me the information so I'll be able to better advice you.

For the oil prices, depends on the one you want to pick, but the range is between 22-27k minus shipping.
I have not changed my oil for the past five months, I have only covered 2600 KM. I use Total 20W50 for Camry 2001. Hope my car is safe.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Nobody: 8:07pm On Sep 15, 2023
Musty4ahmed1:
I have not changed my oil for the past five months, I have only covered 2600 KM. I use Total 20W50 for Camry 2001. Hope my car is safe.
Hmm, maybe, maybe not. It depends on a couple of factors;

- is your fan run direct, and is your thermostat still present?

- how long have you been using the oil?

- do you have to top up oil between oil changes? If yes, how much oil do you use?

- how long do you go between oil changes?

- do you drive short trips a lot? (I'm guessing this is yes, since you've covered only 2600 km in 5 months)

Also, I think your 2600 is miles, not km as the 01 Camry displays distance in miles.
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by Musty4ahmed1: 10:32am On Sep 16, 2023
theadeola:
Hmm, maybe, maybe not. It depends on a couple of factors;

- is your fan run direct, and is your thermostat still present?

- how long have you been using the oil?

- do you have to top up oil between oil changes? If yes, how much oil do you use?

- how long do you go between oil changes?

- do you drive short trips a lot? (I'm guessing this is yes, since you've covered only 2600 km in 5 months)

Also, I think your 2600 is miles, not km as the 01 Camry displays distance in miles.
It's 2600 Km converted from 1400 miles on the dash board. The oil guage well,I don't top any oil, infact the exhaust still evaporate water in the morning, I have not traveled long distance within the last five months of oil change, only one fan runs directly
Re: Why the need to convert car fan to Manuel and remove thermostat by complexstuffs(m): 6:04am On Sep 17, 2023
Angrygoat:
Yeah. What u need be aure of are if your fans are working .both the blades and the fuse are all working without it being burnt... if thermostat is there or not is irrelevant. Most times its closed sef. If everything is in order.and your hoses are not cracked or leaking. Hoses going to radiator and back to engine ac hose and heater hose.. if they are not leaking and lastly ,your radiator cover still has tight grip,then fear not. Over heating can never happen. That's why your eyes should glance through temp guage at least 30 to 40mins while driving. If e dey rise,one of its team members is weak.....
If this, if that, if, if, if....
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