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Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by OChimex: 3:26pm On Aug 05, 2023
mauchiz:
Is all about interest, what does Niger have to give Russia, that other Africa countries don't have?
The west are business men, if you start war, they will sell weapons to you.
Is not as if Putin is telling them to start war, but if they start, he will sell his weapons, Wagner group will have jobs to do, they are business men, Niger Republic should not make themselves available for destruction, Ukraine is suffering despite all the support America and Europe is giving them, I wonder who will give Niger dollars?
It’s not about their interest. It’s about Russia starting their hostilities with the Western world in Africa, last last all of una go hear am for Africa when these two elephants begin showcase their muscle in Africa.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Amen24(f): 3:30pm On Aug 05, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
Only biafrans think Russia will fight Nigeria on behalf of Niger republic
Most of those people you mentioned above are very dwarf.
Useless and senseless group of people.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by yemmit90: 3:31pm On Aug 05, 2023
Badassniggga:
oga deploying troops to Niger is not in our interest. We don't need to start making our neighbors our enemies to stir up unnecessary conflict. Pray tell, wetin concern Nigeria with what happens internally in Niger? What exactly is Nigeria's stuff or interest that is lost or under jeopardy due to coup in Niger? I look forward to a response.
Read my post every well, I didn't support the war, reason I said Tinubu should not waste our scarce resources to fight war in Niger.

Military Coup is like movement in Africa, it is just a matter of time before it happen in Nigeria if nothing is done now by African leaders. So Ecowas and its leaders has genuine reason/interest to stop it now by removing this latest juntas.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by biina: 3:44pm On Aug 05, 2023
Russia doesnt need to act directly, that is what Wagner is for and they have been operating in many African countries for a while now.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Phraences: 3:50pm On Aug 05, 2023
Blazebond:
The day Russia drop a single column of troops in Africa to support a military coup,na that day Russian and African romance go end.
Exactly!!
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Phraences: 3:51pm On Aug 05, 2023
yemmit90:
Read my post every well, I didn't support the war, reason I said Tinubu should not waste our scarce resources to fight war in Niger.

Military Coup is like movement in Africa, it is just a matter of time before it happen in Nigeria if nothing is done now by African leaders. So Ecowas and its leaders has genuine reason/interest to stop it now by removing this latest juntas.
ECOWAS is doing the right unless this coup mentality will keep spreading.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Ikaeniyan0: 3:52pm On Aug 05, 2023
Omodua:
Which tiny minority? Your definition of tiny minority is misnomer and lacks ethical sense.

Is your majority moving Nigeria forward?

Think about your life and majority holding us hostage.

We shall exhale - the tiny minority!
You tiny minorities will always have your say while we majority will always have things done our way.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Phraences: 3:55pm On Aug 05, 2023
Abrahamweb:
See this a$$ clown.
If you support Tinubu,enter the front line na, idiot.
Russia will not officially enter to help Nigerien military,that's why they have PMCs (Wagner group).
On the issue of terrorism, France and america forces are the ones training terrorist in Niger and sending them to neighboring countries,it's one of the reasons the military in Niger took over power.
Read well before spewing nonsense.
Algeria sent 45,000 troops to support Niger,how our weak soldiers wan take handle that if the cannot handle common Boko Haram for our backyard here.
Make una sofri dey lie o! Ahn Ahn!!! Some people's hatred of the west have clouded their reasoning. They are now formulating lies. Kai.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Phraences: 4:02pm On Aug 05, 2023
Favorisieren:
Your name is Abraham, behave like one. You can be my younger brother....as in my real "junior junior".

Do not insult me for my opinion. I can as well start insulting you, but I won't. Dearest bro, my opinion is my opinion. You can disagree and debate it with me but do not insult me.

First, I live in Europe for a decade, and I stayed most of my time in Moscow, so I know Russia very well. Listen to me, I was approached as a machinery to move weapons to Nigeria as far back as 2010 (won't give details here). The network is invisible (I can't even trace it again) and they hunt ordinary people who are smart to work for them. Also, crude and refined oil scammers approached me too to be their strategic brain in defrauding oil buyers. I reject all these bad businesses, and when I wanted to move into cocoa legally, they checked me that their network is from Cote D'Ivoire. After this check, I left Moscow finally and relocated to Nigeria. I do not want wahala with those people. Bad people are everywhere, and there are very good Russians who are still my friend.

Back to the main point. Let us compare a military rule vs a war.

1. Russia will not join. Also, the Wagner group will not too. Russia and Wagner are not on good terms like that again, and even if they are...they will only send weapons. How many weapons will they send when they are fighting in Ukraine?

2. Whether you like it or not, when there is a signal Wagner is supplying weapons, UK, US, and NATO will secretly send to Naija too. Why? They know Nigeria is weakening its strength in this Ukraine war. So, all this bla bla bla that Russia will kill us is false.

3. The whole of the Nigerian army is greater than all the rest of the West African army.

4. The only issue that you mentioned is Algeria, and Algeria has not said much. Only you guys are making it huge like the way you concluded Russia is going to back them. This is West Africa. Nigeria has a vector as the leader in West Africa. We have common law. Algeria is in North Africa. Do you get it?


You are all afraid that people will die. Yes, people will die, and this is why they are military. This war is not about Niger, but about defending Nigeria. If we do not go and send them packing, they will all come together and fund the military to hijack the government here too. Just imagine those boys becoming governors and leaders. It is going to be worse because they know nothing, and they will still take advice from these corrupt politicians. And since no one can check them, they will destroy everything just like how Babangida and Buhari did. Abacha is still ok because he was already in govt for many years before he took over.

Gowon and Buhari are the most ignorant among them. Just imagine Buhari at over 70 was dull. At 70, he had every resource and experience, but he was still dull. Not to talk of when he was just over 30 years in 1983 when he hijacked power. Do you know the kind of governors we had then? Governors who could not even speak good English. They knew nothing.

See, the war we fought to restore democracy came with sacrifice. MKO paid with his life. Many were assassinated. When we compare the pain of the years we faced, it is better to fight a war when Buhari took over. If we had fought a war, we would not have passed through such agony. I guess you are a kid, and you don't understand the infrastructure and opportunities in Nigeria in those days. Guy, the military destroyed everything.

General Babangida started corruption which is the monster we have not been able to conquer. Countries in Asia were set back by natural disasters, but they have gotten over it. But see what corruption has caused us. Better we paid with blood in 1983 than what we went through.

The military must not return to Nigeria; else, we are all dead. Boko Haram is very tiny compared to what we will face at the hands of the military. They can wake up and say...no one must travel out of Nigeria again. JAPA syndrome is over. Thats it. They can send boys to the street, and start flogging everyone. What will you do? Torment of many years with real backwardness.

Military rule is equal to communism. Take it or leave it...it is. It is worse than going to war.
You made too much sense. Three gbosas for you. To me the actions of ECOWAS are necessary at this point. You don't go looking for war but if it is required you fight it. Soldiers are paid to die that's the reality. No be Russian and Ukrainian soldiers dey die everyday?

I just pray ECOWAS sticks to border closure and cutting of electricity and restriction of fly zone. That's enough. No need to send troops.

Military rule is nothing good.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by obyno82: 4:11pm On Aug 05, 2023
Typing:
The thing pain am
How? These kids in nairaland sef
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Phraences: 4:15pm On Aug 05, 2023
1stGenAmerican:
You’re correct, Sir. Wagner and Islamic extremist groups are already deploying throughout West Africa, especially the countries with recent coups. Sooner or later; Wagner and the Islamic extremism groups will be trying to cross into Nigeria and unless Nigeria wants the problem, they need to chop off the head.
Just to tell you guys that aren’t brainwashed by Russia how crazy some of these Africans are—
Putin has been in power (this term) for 11 years and even though the propagandists deny it, many Russians are displeased with Putin. In Russia, if one word is heard about overthrowing Putin, someone is going to get killed or go to jail because Putin is a dictator that tries to rule with absolute power—he’s also a White man who doesn’t want any parts of his country destroyed, he wants to maintain order and remain the only leader. Putin wants to maintain order in his own country with no infighting between Russians while he encourages vulnerable Africans to do the opposite. Putin and his paid propagandists encourage Africans to group and overthrow their governments, shooting, burning, and destroying their countries in the process. Putin knows that military rule doesn’t work and destroys a struggling country even further but he knows that African people will follow his wishes without thinking about why they should do something in their countries that he doesn’t allow in his.
He promised grain and some Africans are too excited to realize that Putin is the reason for the grain shortage—-he promised it but it still hasn’t landed. He is promising to throw grain to Africans like feed to chickens and he is probably laughing at their leaders’ excitement.
The way Africans are on world news flying Russian flags and chanting their love for Russia is embarrassing—it’s something not even Russians or white Russian supporters in the west aren’t shown doing.
Now, after Africans have professed their love for Putin and the coups, he is publicly saying that he won’t be recognizing the military rule and wants the democratically elected president back in office. Do these guys feel like fools yet?
Some African can countries hatred of the West will make them to ally with a worse person. If possible sef this Putin will bring back USSR, someone who is looking for how to gain ground.

Now the Wagner group is growing in the countries where coup took place.. cheesy Before you know it Russia will directly or indirectly influencing things in Africa.

Change of slave masters 101.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Nobody: 4:25pm On Aug 05, 2023
Phraences:
You made too much sense. Three boss for you. To me the actions of ECOWAS are necessary at this point. You don't go looking for war but if it is required you fight it. Soldiers are paid to die that's the reality. No be Russian and Ukrainian soldiers dey die everyday?

I just pray ECOWAS sticks to border closure and cutting of electricity and restriction of fly zone. That's enough. No need to send troops.

Military rule is nothing good.
No one wants war. It is bad, but military boys are mini gods in their eyes. We need to get to the stage the developed nations are. No matter how close the border, they won't listen. Bro, the team led by Abdulsalam should do one thing: arrange for a fast election within a short period if they say the president must go. Ok. If they say the Nigerien president must go, the general cannot stay too. He has made his point. He should not try to leave the barracks where he is meant to be. He needs to back off. Fine...Install an interim president and let the ex-president face the court. Thats it. I know the military boys will not listen, so, the next is to bombard them.

The only thing they will ever listen to is a war for war. That is it. If not, Tinubu himself knows he will be overthrown. It is only a matter of time. But when he sends the signal that ECOWAS is not child's play, they will crawl back into their barracks.

Read my previous posts concerning Ukrainian dying daily. Believe me, we should have fought General Buhari in 1983. If we had shed blood that time, we wouldn't have gone through the mess we passed through. A demon like General Babangida and a chief demon like General Sanni Abacha would not have ruled Nigeria.

I compared Asian nations that suffered natural disasters and Nigeria which is suffering from corruption started by General Babangida. See, those Asian nations have recovered, but Nigeria has not.

Do we want to take the risk of being ruled again by the military? Never! I cannot imagine the hell. Guy, if the price is that blood should flow, so be it. No pain, no gain. Military boys must learn to stay in their barracks...period!
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by mauchiz: 4:28pm On Aug 05, 2023
OChimex:
It’s not about their interest. It’s about Russia starting their hostilities with the Western world in Africa, last last all of una go hear am for Africa when these two elephants begin showcase their muscle in Africa.
It will not work, instead, we declare war with him in Nigeria.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by stickle(m): 4:41pm On Aug 05, 2023
APCnaPDP:
Tinubu must leave Niger republic alone. We don’t want war in Northern Nigeria. Northern Nigeria has suffered enough, we don’t want anymore crisis. Take your war to South West and fight it there. How stupid can peoplpe be for crying out loud.
You appeared to be making a lot of sense before you deviated to tribe and use the word stupid.
However, the 'stupid' man is the reason the North is enjoying relative peace that was not attainable under your sensible leader.
Nigeria will be better with constructive criticism
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Typing: 6:36pm On Aug 05, 2023
obyno82:
How? These kids in nairaland sef
Cry me a River.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by ReubenE(m): 7:29pm On Aug 05, 2023
GENES11S:
Correction.

I just Googled it: Niger has more uranium (311,100 tU) than Ukraine (185,400 tU).

For Nigeria, there is no direct comparison since we have not began exploring our uranium deposit.
Thank you
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by MentalCase98: 7:32pm On Aug 05, 2023
1stGenAmerican:
Africans have been laughing at Ukrainians for over a year because they have a former comedian as their president. The same Africans have been on Nairaland praising the military leader of Burkina Faso without knowing his background or military history. See what the Whites are laughing about on Twitter —from sourcing Chinese shoes and peddling them on the streets to leading the country. How much does this guy know about running a developing country?
Zelensky being a comedian isn’t as funny as some of you guys thought.
Shut up!


























Shut up!!






























Just shut the hell up!!!





You piss me off mehn.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by GUNITGuy: 7:34pm On Aug 05, 2023
Biodun556:
Nigeria has a lot to gain from attacking Niger coup miscreants. Coup in five countries within three years shows that they influence militaries from other countries to remove their leaders. If care is not taken, it will happen in Nigeria two. The coup is like a movement to overthrow all west African leaders and beyond.
That's what's it's going to happen if they don't give people hope
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Larryndelaw: 7:55pm On Aug 05, 2023
Putin will never allow coup in Russia but will be supporting coup in another country. Russia will attack another sovereign country but will saying Ecowas military intervention is not an option. Slowpoke Putin
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Fearyourcreator: 8:04pm On Aug 05, 2023
Biodun556:
International politics is all about INTEREST, it goes beyond display of strength, emotions and morals.

Majority of African countries have strong ties with Russia. Once African Union and ECOWAS oppose the coups and decide to take serious steps, Russia has no option than to back off BECAUSE Russia has a lot more to gain from cooperation with African Union and ECOWAS than those military juntas in the four countries
My brother you Sabi as e dey go... Some just want everything scattered... I never knew they were like this
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Fearyourcreator: 8:08pm On Aug 05, 2023
yemmit90:
That was how someone keep arguing blindly with me in another thread. Who lose her major flour market because of barren landlock country like Niger.

It is high time we start educating people about the power Nigeria wield with her population and economic influence in the continent and accross the globe. No super power can shun or ignore Nigeria interest in Africa.

Nigeria should not waste our scarce resources in fighting war in Niger, we have many pressure issues that needed to be focus on. Robust economic sanction and sponsoring of another coup from within are more than enough to solve this problem. And by the end of this month, the junta won't have choice but to hand over to interim government or be booted out by another sponsored military coup that will immediately reinstall civilian rule.
Many don't know Nigeria is very powerful in her continent... Pikin too much online this days
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by DodadaKoKigbe: 12:33am On Aug 06, 2023
AmotekunSW:
Those fools who they tie their parents every Monday morning would be disappointed with this news.
You're right. Peter Obi supporters will be disappointed. They had created a scenario inside their head where Russian defeats Nigeria in Niger then enter Nigeria, depose Tinubu and make Peter Obi president. They remain the dumbest people in Africa's political space.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by babalose: 4:47am On Aug 06, 2023
Should we stop helping the African nation Niger now that they have been bought by Putin with diamond mines? Should we stop sending aide to Haiti as well?
“Should we stop helping the African nation Niger now that they have been bought by Putin with diamond mines? Should we stop sending aide to Haiti as well?”

Strange question.

I am not sure what diamond mines they used to buy Putin. Or Putin giving them diamond mines where? In Siberia?

Since Niger does not have diamond mines. 75% of the country's export is Uranium ore. All of which goes to France. 80% of what France pays, by law, has to remain in Paris. Before Niger can request and use this money. Niger has to apply to the French government,with reasons what it is for. France has the right to release it or not.

But that abuses the sovereignty of an independent nation you would say.

Very true, but that is what most of the 26 African francophone countries had to agree on before they got their independence. Under duress may I add.

Now you see why Guinea, Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger had recently had a coup and kicked not only the French out, but their puppets in government.

And more to come. Citizens of other surrounding countries are waiting for the restart button the military can offer.

The other exports of Niger are gold, meat and beans. No diamonds to offer.

Do you lot know how much you legally loot out of Africa? Then you turn around, toss some crumbs back as “Aid"

Thank you very much.

Let's use a more commercial example then Uranium take by France from Niger, and used to power their multi billion euro industry. While holding onto the payments. Let's talk chocolate

Ghana earns $2 billion a year from cocoa. Less then a fifth of what that cocoa will generate. Let's not even mention the farmers

The African cocoa farmers who are taking on Big Chocolate
Why is it so difficult for poor countries to break out of poverty by extracting higher prices for raw materials like cocoa and controlling the supply chain?
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-12-17/africa-big-chocolate
How much “aid" to you want to make it a fair trade?

Every single African countries is shafted with this colonial way of dealing, that spilled into the post colonial era.

Let's not start on Nigerian crude.

And why do they succeed? Because of sanctions and murder of progressive African leaders, replacing the with puppets with fat London, Paris or New York accounts. Strange that they do not have Moscow or Beijing accounts.

That is why we Africans have turned east. They don't lecture us while looting us, they do business.

The west gives aid and pointless loans that return back to them in the bank accounts of our leaders.

The Chinese tend to build instead and take what they built as collateral. Which they run. If the take over a port as collateral, are they taking it away from Africa? No. It remains in Africa, generating income, jobs and taxes.

Kamala Harris came to Africa, landing on airports built by the Chinese, drove on Chinese made roads, to tell us not to deal with China. Are you having a laugh?

Africa may or may not be supporting Russia. However they want what Russia is selling. Real independence from the old colonial masters.


This was the representation of Africa in the Russia/African summit. Which western media claimed was shunted by Africa. Notice that Niger did not attend. Guess they were busy kick out puppets.

BRICS offering protection from sanctions, Russia offering stabilization, and China business.

So come on west. Counter that offer. Pay the fair price for our resources. Stop interfering in Africa, and keep your so called aid.

So back to direct question. The answer is. Keep your aid. Niger will now sell its Uranium ore and gold directly on the open market. All their money will come home and not held by Paris. And the French can freeze and sit in darkness for all the Nigeriens care. Or pay the premium price for the fuel for their nuclear stations. Niger will earn hundred gold any aid you can give them.

France had threatened military action if their interests are hurt. What interests does France have in Niger? The whole resources of Niger. Puppet African countries lead by leaders that got in on openly rigged election had also threatened them. As a result. Guinea, Burkina Faso, Mali and Niger had informed that an attack on one is an attack on all.

As for Haiti. With all the murderous dictator like Papa Doc and Baby Doc the US unleashed on that country. You should be paying them compensation forever.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Omodua(m): 9:37am On Aug 07, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
You tiny minorities will always have your say while we majority will always have things done our way.
What's your definition of tiny minority? You became a majority by Ballot Coup. You didn't win election but by ballot grabbing and manipulation.

Electoral thieves!
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Ikaeniyan0: 10:00am On Aug 07, 2023
Omodua:
What's your definition of tiny minority? You became a majority by Ballot Coup. You didn't win election but by ballot grabbing and manipulation.

Electoral thieves!
Obi your god claim the election is free and fair, so you can keep on crying over nothing on nairaland.
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Omodua(m): 12:36pm On Aug 07, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
Obi your god claim the election is free and fair, so you can keep on crying over nothing on nairaland.
Lies!

When did Obi say election was free and fair?
Re: Niger Coup: Russia Opposes Military Action, Won’t Deploy Troops – Ambassador by Wujio: 3:26pm On Sep 26, 2023
1stGenAmerican:
You’re correct, Sir. Wagner and Islamic extremist groups are already deploying throughout West Africa, especially the countries with recent coups. Sooner or later; Wagner and the Islamic extremism groups will be trying to cross into Nigeria and unless Nigeria wants the problem, they need to chop off the head.
Just to tell you guys that aren’t brainwashed by Russia how crazy some of these Africans are—
Putin has been in power (this term) for 11 years and even though the propagandists deny it, many Russians are displeased with Putin. In Russia, if one word is heard about overthrowing Putin, someone is going to get killed or go to jail because Putin is a dictator that tries to rule with absolute power—he’s also a White man who doesn’t want any parts of his country destroyed, he wants to maintain order and remain the only leader. Putin wants to maintain order in his own country with no infighting between Russians while he encourages vulnerable Africans to do the opposite. Putin and his paid propagandists encourage Africans to group and overthrow their governments, shooting, burning, and destroying their countries in the process. Putin knows that military rule doesn’t work and destroys a struggling country even further but he knows that African people will follow his wishes without thinking about why they should do something in their countries that he doesn’t allow in his.
He promised grain and some Africans are too excited to realize that Putin is the reason for the grain shortage—-he promised it but it still hasn’t landed. He is promising to throw grain to Africans like feed to chickens and he is probably laughing at their leaders’ excitement.
The way Africans are on world news flying Russian flags and chanting their love for Russia is embarrassing—it’s something not even Russians or white Russian supporters in the west aren’t shown doing.
Now, after Africans have professed their love for Putin and the coups, he is publicly saying that he won’t be recognizing the military rule and wants the democratically elected president back in office. Do these guys feel like fools yet?
Babe
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