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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 10:02am On Aug 09, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Kanu Nwankwo brought far more to the team than goals. That is why he was key and regular. His operation of deep and bringing the other forward players into game was a prime tactical strength of the team. That was why he played for the likes of Ajax when they were winning Champions League and reached the finals and Arsenal in their most dominant time.

The goals of Siasia and Amokachi never got them close to such level or recognition.

in afcon 2000 he had a hattrick of assists against Tunisia.
His ability in midfield was the only thing that kept us going
from 2006 to 2010.
In the period we will play rubbish and kanu will come in and change the game from midfield
I remember our matches against senegal and zimbabwe in afcon 2006, 2008 or 2010
i can remember.
He was a magician who changed the game from midfield.
Kanu trumps amokachi and siasia in his ability to control the midfield and create chances.
He simply was more of a midfielder was more creative, could play possesion football
and made life easier for our forwards

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:13am On Aug 09, 2023
Philosopher1979:


in afcon 2000 he had a hattrick of assists against Tunisia.
His ability in midfield was the only thing that kept us going
from 2006 to 2010.
In the period we will play rubbish and kanu will come in and change the game from midfield
I remember our matches against senegal and zimbabwe in afcon 2006, 2008 or 2010
i can remember.
He was a magician who changed the game from midfield.
Kanu trumps amokachi and siasia in his ability to control the midfield and create chances.
He simply was more of a midfielder was more creative, could play possesion football
and made life easier for our forwards
when people come up with he never scored any nations cup goal to discredit Kanu ability I just laugh. On several occasions Kanu will win panelty for Nigeria and fans will beg for him to play it to get at least a goal, Kanu will move away from it. I feel he's just like Mikel that don't like taking penalty. Also I'll never forget his assist to utaka against cameroun, the control of the ball before the pass was majestic.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:19am On Aug 09, 2023
Philosopher1979:


in afcon 2000 he had a hattrick of assists against Tunisia.
His ability in midfield was the only thing that kept us going
from 2006 to 2010.
In the period we will play rubbish and kanu will come in and change the game from midfield
I remember our matches against senegal and zimbabwe in afcon 2006, 2008 or 2010
i can remember.
He was a magician who changed the game from midfield.
Kanu trumps amokachi and siasia in his ability to control the midfield and create chances.
He simply was more of a midfielder was more creative, could play possesion football
and made life easier for our forwards
Amokachi and Siasia can never be compared to great king Kanu

Kanu was the black Dennis Bergkamp

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:37am On Aug 09, 2023
charlesemeka85:
Amokachi and Siasia can never be compared to great king Kanu

Kanu was the black Dennis Bergkamp


Kanu was too intelligent on d ball …his intelligence was even confirmed by the great pele himself

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:38am On Aug 09, 2023
elyte89:



Kanu was too intelligent on d ball …his intelligence was even confirmed by the great pele himself

slick, skillful and intelligent on the ball. He’s only shortcoming was he’s lack of pace

Kanu was too smooth to watch

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 10:42am On Aug 09, 2023
charlesemeka85:
Amokachi and Siasia can never be compared to great king Kanu

Kanu was the black Dennis Bergkamp

This is an excerpt from Afcon 2006 Nigeria vs Zimbabwe

Zimbabwe coach says Kanu's a "wizard"

We had a good first half, but when Kanu came in on resumption, things changed and in the course of about five minutes of madness, my defence line caved in. I think Kanu is a phenomenon in the Nigerian team. I will call him a wizard," Mhlauri remarked.

Port Said, Egypt (PANA) - Coach Charles Mhlauri of Zimbabwe has attributed his team's 2-0 loss Friday to the Super Eagles of Nigeria to the entry in the match of striker Nwankwo Kanu in the second half.
the Zimbabwean coach noted that if Kanu had not been introduced in the match, the 'Warriors' of Zimbabwe had 'enough weapon to hold the Eagles'.

https://coupedafrique.winoo.com/Africancup2006/index.cfm/md/11/id/1641/Zimbabwe_coach_says_Kanu_s_a_wizard__ACN_2006_.cfm

And this was when kanu was on a decliine
10 minutes of Kanu can change a match.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 10:44am On Aug 09, 2023
Chief I knew you were going to shalaye in one way or the other. grin

Kanu was primarily a striker brought in to score goals so if as a forward you couldn't net a single goal in 9 good competitions I will seriously question if you are better than other forwards who apart from scoring also contributed their fair share of assists.

As per recognition anyone can win a popularity contest but actual numbers and performances on the pitch can be seen by anybody.

TheGoodJoe:


Kanu Nwankwo brought far more to the team than goals. That is why he was key and regular. His operation of deep and bringing the other forward players into game was a prime tactical strength of the team. That was why he played for the likes of Ajax when they were winning Champions League and reached the finals and Arsenal in their most dominant time.

The goals of Siasia and Amokachi never got them close to such level or recognition.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 10:56am On Aug 09, 2023
In 2000 Senegal was about knocking us out in the quarter finals Oliseh, Amuneke and Aghahowa came to our rescue. Semifinals another Oliseh master class.

Kanu contributed sparingly in other tournaments but was always missing in action during clutch moments. Look at Iniesta for instance when Spain and Barcac needed him in the most crucial moments he delivered and people still rate him despite his relatively poor goal scoring and assists record in comparison to his world class peers.

I think the reason why Papilo gets a pass is because of his exploits with the 96 Atlanta team and his time with Arsenal.

Philosopher1979:


in afcon 2000 he had a hattrick of assists against Tunisia.
His ability in midfield was the only thing that kept us going
from 2006 to 2010.
In the period we will play rubbish and kanu will come in and change the game from midfield
I remember our matches against senegal and zimbabwe in afcon 2006, 2008 or 2010
i can remember.
He was a magician who changed the game from midfield.
Kanu trumps amokachi and siasia in his ability to control the midfield and create chances.
He simply was more of a midfielder was more creative, could play possesion football
and made life easier for our forwards

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:03am On Aug 09, 2023
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:17am On Aug 09, 2023
chrisooblog:
Chief I knew you were going to shalaye in one way or the other. grin

Kanu was primarily a striker brought in to score goals so if as a forward you couldn't net a single goal in 9 good competitions I will seriously question if you are better than other forwards who apart from scoring also contributed their fair share of assists.

As per recognition anyone can win a popularity contest but actual numbers and performances on the pitch can be seen by anybody.


Will you take a striker that scores 2 goals in a match to a striker that makes the team score 5?

Growing up, I even thought Kanu Nwankwo was a midfielder. That was how deep he operated. He made us tick and the tacticians that worked with him appreciated him for that.

The others were scoring more but did not get to such height. Kanu got us firing and was ahead of others.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 11:26am On Aug 09, 2023
Yes, the team was good however, the team did not even defeat any strong opposition. Losing to an Italian team that played with 10 men for more than 45 minutes is unforgivable! That world cup was there for the taking.
Kog45:
I thought Westerhoff ego didn’t helped us against Italy for benching Samson Siasia against Italy.Siasia started the first three matches and was awesome with a goal against Argentina.

We lost that match not cuz of lacked of replacement but a silly mistake by Sunday Oliseh.The team was solid in all positions to the extent a gatecrasher Mike Emenalo fitted in perfectly for injured Ben Iroha.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 11:32am On Aug 09, 2023
What about 2004. That sumptuous control and pass to John Utaka against Cameroon. He and Okocha single handedly took us to the semi final of 2004 AFCON where we lost painfully to Tunisia on penalties.
Philosopher1979:


This is an excerpt from Afcon 2006 Nigeria vs Zimbabwe

Zimbabwe coach says Kanu's a "wizard"

We had a good first half, but when Kanu came in on resumption, things changed and in the course of about five minutes of madness, my defence line caved in. I think Kanu is a phenomenon in the Nigerian team. I will call him a wizard," Mhlauri remarked.

Port Said, Egypt (PANA) - Coach Charles Mhlauri of Zimbabwe has attributed his team's 2-0 loss Friday to the Super Eagles of Nigeria to the entry in the match of striker Nwankwo Kanu in the second half.
the Zimbabwean coach noted that if Kanu had not been introduced in the match, the 'Warriors' of Zimbabwe had 'enough weapon to hold the Eagles'.

https://coupedafrique.winoo.com/Africancup2006/index.cfm/md/11/id/1641/Zimbabwe_coach_says_Kanu_s_a_wizard__ACN_2006_.cfm

And this was when kanu was on a decliine
10 minutes of Kanu can change a match.





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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 11:33am On Aug 09, 2023
If those 2 goals are guaranteed yes I sure will.

Plus you make it sound as if Kanu was creating chances galore every game.

Papilo had his moments emphasis MOMENTS but his overall contributions compared to the praise he gets doesn't measure.

TheGoodJoe:


Will you take a striker that scores 2 goals in a match to a striker that makes the team score 5?

Growing up, I even thought Kanu Nwankwo was a midfielder. That was how deep he operated. He made us tick and the tacticians that worked with him appreciated him for that.

The others were scoring more but did not get to such height. Kanu got us firing and was ahead of others.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 11:35am On Aug 09, 2023
Bulgaria that got to the Semifinals not strong opposition?

Marjoribanks:
Yes, the team was good however, the team did not even defeat any strong opposition. Losing to an Italian team that played with 10 men for more than 45 minutes is unforgivable! That world cup was there for the taking.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:45am On Aug 09, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Will you take a striker that scores 2 goals in a match to a striker that makes the team score 5?

Growing up, I even thought Kanu Nwankwo was a midfielder. That was how deep he operated. He made us tick and the tacticians that worked with him appreciated him for that.

The others were scoring more but did not get to such height. Kanu got us firing and was ahead of others.
Kanu is not an out and out striker but a supporting/Auxiliary forward player who plays better behind a number 9

Kanu’ genius hv never been he’s goal scoring prowess but creativity, link up play and finesse

Kanu was just like he’s ex team mate in arsenal Bergkamp who wasn’t really a goal monster but blessed with high footballing IQ and technique



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuIPjDAvasw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMKtR4rUwE0

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:47am On Aug 09, 2023
jihday:
so age is the only reason why players under perform/loose form?
Yes.. can you compare younger Ronaldo to the present one? Why do footballers retire... age age
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:15pm On Aug 09, 2023
Daniel Aiyenugba the son of Dele ex-SE goalkeeper saving a pen during a shootout. Chip off the ol' block

https://twitter.com/ValueJetCup/status/1689221196699537408?s=20

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 12:16pm On Aug 09, 2023
charlesemeka85:
him get reach 3 assist in bundesliga?🤣🤣🤣🤣
no he no get assist for bundesliga 😂😂😂
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:19pm On Aug 09, 2023
18 year old Nigerian young star David Nwachukwu joins Hungarian club Debrecen after trials with the club

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:20pm On Aug 09, 2023
I'm happy you brought up the Bergkamp comparisons someone who didn't just assist but also scored for Holland at major international tournaments.

The goal against Argentina in the 1998 WC comes to mind.

charlesemeka85:
Kanu is not an out and out striker but a supporting/Auxiliary forward player who plays better behind a number 9

Kanu’ genius hv never been he’s goal scoring prowess but creativity, link up play and finesse

Kanu was just like he’s ex team mate in arsenal Bergkamp who wasn’t really a goal monster but blessed with high footballing IQ and technique



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuIPjDAvasw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMKtR4rUwE0

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Rockyrascal(m): 12:32pm On Aug 09, 2023
It is the bromance between noah Okafor and chukwueze for me grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:35pm On Aug 09, 2023
chrisooblog:
If those 2 goals are guaranteed yes I sure will.

Plus you make it sound as if Kanu was creating chances galore every game.

Papilo had his moments emphasis MOMENTS but his overall contributions compared to the praise he gets doesn't measure.


You are looking at it as just goals and assists. However, your missing out the fluidity Kanu's playing style brought to the team. Remember, Clemence Westerhof and Fanni Amun fell out because of tactical use of Kanu Nwankwo in the U17. That was how priceless he was to tactical play. That was why he could easily eat where the likes of Amokachi and Siasia could not. Kanu might not rake the goals and assists, but he must alway help the team to play in a more fluid manner. His deep play as a forward was second to none.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 12:35pm On Aug 09, 2023
Bruno Onyeamachi to Porto done but he won't feature until after the Benfica game!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:38pm On Aug 09, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Kanu Nwankwo brought far more to the team than goals. That is why he was key and regular. His operation of deep and bringing the other forward players into game was a prime tactical strength of the team. That was why he played for the likes of Ajax when they were winning Champions League and reached the finals and Arsenal in their most dominant time.

The goals of Siasia and Amokachi never got them close to such level or recognition.
Oga goodjoe,our talks centered on eagles not Ajax,Arsenal exploits.Kanu was average in eagles.Kanu remarkable efforts in eagles was 2002 WC qualifier scoring 4 goals with Victor Agali also scored 4 goals.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 12:39pm On Aug 09, 2023
That World cup doesn't really have great teams. Even the Italians wobbled and stumbled to the final playing out a boring nil nil draw against Brazil. No Spain, France, Netherlands etc
chrisooblog:
Bulgaria that got to the Semifinals not strong opposition?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:39pm On Aug 09, 2023
Marjoribanks:
Bruno Onyeamachi to Porto done but he won't future until after the Benfica game!
Good news
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:41pm On Aug 09, 2023
Kog45:
Oga goodjoe,our talks centered on eagles not Ajax,Arsenal exploits.Kanu was average in eagles.Kanu remarkable efforts in eagles was 2002 WC qualifier scoring 4 goals with Victor Agali also scored 4 goals.

You are saying average based on goals. Not average based on overall contributions. Kanu's game was more than just a striker. He played a lot of deep roles which made the team fire offensively. Kanu operated deeply a lot, that the other strikers could never offer. This is in regards the Super Eagles. That was why he was a regular.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:42pm On Aug 09, 2023
Marjoribanks:
Yes, the team was good however, the team did not even defeat any strong opposition. Losing to an Italian team that played with 10 men for more than 45 minutes is unforgivable! That world cup was there for the taking.
But 1998 team lost to very average Paraguay and Denmark.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:44pm On Aug 09, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


You are saying average based on goals. Not average based on overall contributions. Kanu's game was more than just a striker. He played a lot of deep roles which made the team fire offensively. Kanu operated deeply a lot, that the other strikers could never offer. This is in regards the Super Eagles. That was why he was a regular.
Oga goodjoe,pls go to archive and tell me who has better assist and deep roles between Siasia and Kanu in eagles.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:46pm On Aug 09, 2023
Chief only France wasn't there every top team was there Spain o, Germany o, Netherlands o you name it.

Marjoribanks:
That World cup doesn't really have great teams. Even the Italians wobbled and stumbled to the final playing out a boring nil nil draw against Brazil. No Spain, France, Netherlands etc
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:47pm On Aug 09, 2023
Kog45:
Oga goodjoe,pls go to archive and tell me who has better assist and deep roles between Siasia and Kanu in eagles.

I said, it is not just about assist but build up plays from deep. Unless you are saying Siasia was better operating from deep than Kanu, I wonder what you want from the archives.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:48pm On Aug 09, 2023
charlesemeka85:
Kanu is not an out and out striker but a supporting/Auxiliary forward player who plays better behind a number 9

Kanu’ genius hv never been he’s goal scoring prowess but creativity, link up play and finesse

Kanu was just like he’s ex team mate in arsenal Bergkamp who wasn’t really a goal monster but blessed with high footballing IQ and technique



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuIPjDAvasw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMKtR4rUwE0
Oga Charles nobody is doubting his abilities but I want to tell he was not the best in eagles when we are talking about supporting forwards that have played for Nigeria.

My opinion I gave it to Samson Siasia who brought the best in Rasheed Yekini.

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