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chrisooblog:
Chief only France wasn't there every top team was there Spain o, Germany o, Netherlands o you name it.

Odunayaw:
He doesn't know if he his arguing about talent or something else

TheGoodJoe:

I said, it is not just about assist but build up plays from deep. Unless you are saying Siasia was better operating from deep than Kanu, I wonder what you want from the archives.

Kog45:
But 1998 team lost to very average Paraguay and Denmark.

Kog45:
Yes Siasia was better,my opinion.

Meliforme:
When he said we should go back to the streets maybe to pick football talents, that was when i got his angle.

He should that know the present crop of players also played street football and are as well as talented.

TheGoodJoe:

Poor preparation, not talent. Remember the whole Phillip Trousierre debacle and then bringing in Bora. Bora started working with another team, which had the likes of Ganiyu Ajide, yaro yaro, Siasia and co. Then later towards the world cup, we hurriedly put the team together.

Different from Westerhof who was stable for about five years. So the synergy was more. However, talent wise, Super Eagles 98 was more talented than Super Eagles of 94.

Kog45:
Sir compare the 98 and 94 teams positioning

TheGoodJoe:

You are saying average based on goals. Not average based on overall contributions. Kanu's game was more than just a striker. He played a lot of deep roles which made the team fire offensively. Kanu operated deeply a lot, that the other strikers could never offer. This is in regards the Super Eagles. That was why he was a regular.

chrisooblog:
Chief you're not the only one who watched the SE during Kanu's tenure there wasn't any fluid or liquid anything.

Oliseh was the glue who held everything with his sharp passing that allowed for this smooth transition you speak off.

TheGoodJoe:

Poor preparation, not talent. Remember the whole Phillip Trousierre debacle and then bringing in Bora. Bora started working with another team, which had the likes of Ganiyu Ajide, yaro yaro, Siasia and co. Then later towards the world cup, we hurriedly put the team together.

Different from Westerhof who was stable for about five years. So the synergy was more. However, talent wise, Super Eagles 98 was more talented than Super Eagles of 94.

chrisooblog:
The 1998 team was a carry over from the 1994 team so apart Babayaro and Tijani and some extent Taribo it was basically the same team. The 1998 team in my opinion lacked depth compared to 1994.

TheGoodJoe:

Na wa. I even argued that Kanu Nwankwo was a midfielder because of how deep he operated and your saying Oliseh. Kanu brought fluidity in your play, if you say the team was not fluid, then it meant Kanu was even more vital. But, you are forgetting we had Austin Jay Jay Okocha, and some times, Oruma used to come in. If we were not fluid, were these guys standing as sticks?

chrisooblog:
Prime Kanu that couldn't score a single goal for Nigeria in 9 senior international tournaments better than Amokachi and Siasia?

TheGoodJoe:

That is the point.

The addition of Kanu, Tijani, Babangida, Oruma and Taribo, improved the team. With respect to talent.

Finito.

chrisooblog:
I'm saying Kanu wasn't the one bringing the fluidity.

It was Oliseh, Jay-Jay, Adepoju, and Oruma sometimes bringing the smooth transitions we saw back then.

The 1998 team which you said was more talented it was guys like Oliseh that were making us an offensive force. Mind you Kanu was a bench warmer that year because he was still coming back from his heart condition.

Marjoribanks:
Bruno Onyeamachi to Porto done but he won't future until after the Benfica game!

jihday:
I agree that not scoring in 6 Afcons and 3 World cups is very abysmal but if you saw Kanu at Afcons 2000 and 2004 then you’ll agree that your judgment on is quite harsh

chrisooblog:
Kanu was ineffective to the team in 1998.

Infact after the Olympics Kanu because of his heart surgery wasn't in the team but the SE were still deadly.

Amokachi, Amuneke, Oliseh, Okocha and the rest of them really carried the team despite the alien 3-5-2 formation Troussier who was coach then introduced.

chrisooblog:
Chief you're not the only one who watched the SE during Kanu's tenure there wasn't any fluid or liquid anything.

Oliseh was the glue who held everything with his sharp passing that allowed for this smooth transition you speak off.

BascoVanVeli:
Samu Chukwueze's ac Milan debut


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2FImi3HS7A

Kog45:
But 1998 team lost to very average Paraguay and Denmark.

chrisooblog:
I'm happy you brought up the Bergkamp comparisons someone who didn't just assist but also scored for Holland at major international tournaments.

The goal against Argentina in the 1998 WC comes to mind.

charlesemeka85:
with no goal and assist in a full season with hertha berlin

Off mic abeg

TheGoodJoe:

Kanu, all games he played for the Super Eagles dropped deep to build up plays. All games. Doing this made the fluid team, more fluid. He was a golden asset as a forward because of the fluidity he brought to the team.

jihday:
Denmark wasn’t average tho

chrisooblog:
In 1998 without his 'fluidity' we beat Spain 3-2 with his same 'fluidity' Paraguay and Denmark beat us silly.

For goodness sake what was Kanu's business dropping deep when we had the likes of Oliseh, Adepoju, Okocha and Oruma running things in midfield?

Abi was he dropping deep to help the midfield in Arsenal too that he only scored double digit goals once in his entire time with the Gooners?

Meliforme:
Ejuke made three assists and was their highest assists maker before his injury

charlesemeka85:
wow, but Boavista’s president rubbished the the player’s link to porto few days ago

charlesemeka85:
that was according to the instruction of the coach. Kanu is better when he drops deep to create play

charlesemeka85:
they wasn’t but many tipped the 98 team to trash them

Even CR9 touted taribo on how they can’t wait to teach us a lesson because of the heartbreaking lost they suffered in the Olympics to Nigeria

No one saw that lost to the Danes coming