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4. You also have no idea how medical referral system works. Any doctor or physician can manage any case(and I mean any case). You only refer to specialists or consultants where you feel you have exhausted your knowledge. That's why we spent 6 years or more in the first medical degree called MBBS(in this part of the world) which means Bachelor or Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery. My school call it MBBCh. So yes, I can see psychiatric cases that present to me before referral. In highly advanced medical countries like the US etc, psychiatric cases quickly present to psychiatrists as a first call. This is unlike poorly resourced countries like ours.
And yes, I can develop interest in psychiatry without being a psychiatrist. It simply means I have more knowledge of psychiatric cases. And no, I'm not a psychiatrist, and I have never called myself one, either here or anywhere. If you have any evidence of me doing otherwise, do present it, or shut that stinking ignorant piehole of yours.
5. Lol. There is so much Google can help especially in a highly rarefied and specialized field like medicine. Google may even give you wrong data. So you can go suck a dicck or something. Ah, yes, I don't talk like a doctor. Actually you aint the first to say it, nor probably the last: the internet is littered with dimwits like you that don't know doctors are more or less like regular folks. There's no special 'doctor speak'.
6. About atheism and suicides all I would tell you is you're a prime clown. Are those Muslim extremists that blow themselves to bits atheists?

LordReed:
LMAO! There are 4 segments in my picture so tell me again how it is a dichotomy. Bwahahahaha!

it's two, look it.

The four choices are either to believe or disbelieve.

Why can't you see it? 😂

Workch:
it's two, look it.

The four choices are either to believe or disbelieve.

Why can't you see it? 😂

Where on the picture does it say disbelieve?

How is 4 choices a dichotomy? And does it say these are the only choices in the whole universe? LoLz.

jaephoenix:
4. You also have no idea how medical referral system works. Any doctor or physician can manage any case(and I mean any case). You only refer to specialists or consultants where you feel you have exhausted your knowledge. That's why we spent 6 years or more in the first medical degree called MBBS(in this part of the world) which means Bachelor or Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery. My school call it MBBCh. So yes, I can see psychiatric cases that present to me before referral. In highly advanced medical countries like the US etc, psychiatric cases quickly present to psychiatrists as a first call. This is unlike poorly resourced countries like ours.
And yes, I can develop interest in psychiatry without being a psychiatrist. It simply means I have more knowledge of psychiatric cases. And no, I'm not a psychiatrist, and I have never called myself one, either here or anywhere. If you have any evidence of me doing otherwise, do present it, or shut that stinking ignorant piehole of yours.
5. Lol. There is so much Google can help especially in a highly rarefied and specialized field like medicine. Google may even give you wrong data. So you can go suck a dicck or something. Ah, yes, I don't talk like a doctor. Actually you aint the first to say it, nor probably the last: the internet is littered with dimwits like you that don't know doctors are more or less like regular folks. There's no special 'doctor speak'.
6. About atheism and suicides all I would tell you is you're a prime clown. Are those Muslim extremists that blow themselves to bits atheists?

Then why not be clear about what you do . Everything ended with you in that post of yours . You never talked of referral. Go back and read what you wrote . You liar .

You also wanted to create the false narrative that only religious people are prone to seeing things because of their beliefs .
What of the irreligious who come to you ?

Why no mention of them ?

Go sleep . You know nothing

I said ,you are pretending to be what you are not . I never said you were a mental health practitioner .You can never be that .

And I still doubt you are any kind of doctor . I have friends who are medical doctors both in Nigeria and overseas .

You don't come close at all when I compare the things they explain to me with some of things you post here .

You are like a ' cut and nail doctor " nothing more .

Place the address of your hospital here let come and confirm for my myself so I shut up.

Your choice of words exposes you . You are more at home with gutter language than the medical terminology those in the medical profesion are known to use all the time .

How can you read medicine for all that period and after the years you have spent practicing ,you still sound like an 'agbero '

You are deceiving yourself .

Modified . Your last comments shows you know nothing . Atheist commiting suicide from mental illnesses is not the same with religious fanatics doing so from indoctrination , and that doesn't happen all the time .

Go do your reaserch and come back to tell me what I said about atheists and suicides is not true . Don't assume .

LordReed:
Where on the picture does it say disbelieve?

How is 4 choices a dichotomy? And does it say these are the only choices in the whole universe? LoLz.

Atheism is disbelieve in god.
Bring the picture again.

Are you just living in denial?

This is the picture you posted.
Right side theism, which means believing in God.
Left side, atheism, which means disbelieving God.


The picture is compelling one to either believe or not believe. Which is flawed. I'm not part of anything in that picture and you need to reset your brain to know that people like us exist

triplechoice:
Then why not be clear about what you do . Everything ended with you in that post of yours . You never talked of referral. Go back and read what you wrote . You liar .

You also wanted to create the false narrative that only religious people are prone to seeing things because of their beliefs .
What of the irreligious who come to you ?

Why no mention of them ?

Go sleep . You know nothing

I said ,you are pretending to be what you are not . I never said you were a mental health practitioner .You can never be that .

And I still doubt you are any kind of doctor . I have friends who are medical doctors both in Nigeria and overseas .

You don't come close at all when I compare the things they explain to me with some of things you post here .

You are like a ' cut and nail doctor " nothing more .

Place the address of your hospital here let come and confirm for my myself so I shut up.

Your choice of words exposes you . You are more at home with gutter language than the medical terminology those in the medical profesion are known to use all the time .

How can you read medicine for all that period and after the years you have spent practicing ,you still sound like an 'agbero '

You are deceiving yourself .

Modified . Your last comments shows you know nothing . Atheist commiting suicide from mental illnesses is not the same with religious fanatics doing so from indoctrination , and that doesn't happen all the time .

Go do your reaserch and come back to tell me what I said about atheists and suicides is not true . Don't assume .

1. Bro, if you can read properly I wrote generally about some patients, I wasnt specific about any. Some psychiatric cases are neurotic like anxiety disorders, you simply manage them. Some that are psychotic, you give antipsych and refer. Did I tell you the particular diagnosis? So why are you so sure I should have referred them? Are you daft?
2. Again, you're crazier by the second. When did I say psychosis is restricted to religious folks? I simply talked about the thought and hallucinatory contents of the religious folks.
3. [b]So what am I pretending to be, dear sire? [/b]Please I need you to answer this lemme prove you to be an ignorant liar
4. I dont care if you think am a physician or not. I really don't a dangling fuckc. Lol. Post my address in a faceless and public forum? Are you nuts? Why dont you post yours? I'll come myself and meet you
5. Atheists commit suicide. Theists commit suicide. And stop picking your data from ignoramuses like you. Visit scientific or in this case, medical journals or sites.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7310534/

Workch:
Atheism is disbelieve in god.
Bring the picture again.

Are you just living in denial?

This is the picture you posted.
Right side theism, which means believing in God.
Left side, atheism, which means disbelieving God.


The picture is compelling one to either believe or not believe. Which is flawed. I'm not part of anything in that picture and you need to reset your brain to know that people like us exist

Show me where on the picture it says disbelieve. The one in denial here is you. You are looking at A and calling it Z. LMFAO!

Dude I never said you are part of the picture, I used it to illustrate my point of view. So that's why you are knocking your head on it because you think I am saying you have to choose one of them? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! LWKMD!

LordReed:
Show me where on the picture it says disbelieve. The one in denial here is you. You are looking at A and calling it Z. LMFAO!

Dude I never said you are part of the picture, I used it to illustrate my point of view. So that's why you are knocking your head on it because you think I am saying you have to choose one of them? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! LWKMD!

You are running from pillar to post

Workch:
You are running from pillar to post

So if an atheist say he doesn’t believe in gods it is the same as saying no gods exist?

Workch:
You are running from pillar to post

LWKMD! Let's see your other semantic gymnastic feat of contorting lack of belief into disbelief.

The same person that says "I don't believe" is not the same as "I neither believe nor disbelieve" wants to equate lack of belief with disbelieve. Chai! English don suffer. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

Maynman:
So if an atheist say he doesn’t believe in gods it is the same as saying no gods exist?

Let's watch his amazing semantic gymnastics. LoLz.

LordReed:
LWKMD! Let's see your other semantic gymnastic feat of contorting lack of belief into disbelief.

The same person that says "I don't believe" is not the same as "I neither believe nor disbelieve" wants to equate lack of belief with disbelieve. Chai! English don suffer. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

So in your book:

Lack of belief does not mean "disbelief"?

Let's know where your problem lies 😂

LordReed:
LWKMD! Let's see your other semantic gymnastic feat of contorting lack of belief into disbelief.

The same person that says "I don't believe" is not the same as "I neither believe nor disbelieve" wants to equate lack of belief with disbelieve. Chai! English don suffer. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

Here goes the cherrypicking again.

The person that says he neither beliefs nor disbelief is not represented in that diagram. That diagram is a fallacy of false dichotomy

Workch:
So in your book:

Lack of belief does not mean "disbelief"?

Let's know where your problem lies 😂

Which book does it mean the same?

Workch:
Here goes the cherrypicking again.

The person that says he neither beliefs nor disbelief is not represented in that diagram. That diagram is a fallacy of false dichotomy

Atheism 101:

Someone says, “A god exists.”
An atheist responds with, “I don’t believe you.”
if you think that saying, “I don’t believe you” is the same as saying, “there are no gods.” You have failed English 101.

Workch:
So in your book:

Lack of belief does not mean "disbelief"?

Let's know where your problem lies 😂

No it doesn't.

Workch:
Here goes the cherrypicking again.

The person that says he neither beliefs nor disbelief is not represented in that diagram. That diagram is a fallacy of false dichotomy

For the 3rd time I didn't tell you that the diagram represents your position. You can stop knocking your head against it now. LoLz.

LordReed:
No it doesn't.

Really, let's check Oxford dictionary.

Atheism is a joke 😂

So according to LordReed, if you are not believing something, then it's not same as lacking belief in it.

LordReed:
For the 3rd time I didn't tell you that the diagram represents your position. You can stop knocking your head against it now. LoLz.

for the umpteenth time, you are saying rubbish. Lol 😂

Your diagram is a fallacy. It's not true just because LordReed thinks it's true.

I'm so shocked that I have been engaging someone who even doesn't know the difference between belief and disbelief 🤣

Workch:
for the umpteenth time, you are saying rubbish. Lol 😂

Your diagram is a fallacy. It's not true just because LordReed thinks it's true.

I'm so shocked that I have been engaging someone who even doesn't know the difference between belief and disbelief 🤣

Illiterate

Workch:
Really, let's check Oxford dictionary.

Atheism is a joke 😂

So according to LordReed, if you are not believing something, then it's not same as lacking belief in it.

Cc Lordreed

It seems agnostics are the one that believes and unbelieves and a theist just believes.
While an atheists is just looking at them in non-belief 😂

Workch:
for the umpteenth time, you are saying rubbish. Lol 😂

Your diagram is a fallacy. It's not true just because LordReed thinks it's true.

I'm so shocked that I have been engaging someone who even doesn't know the difference between belief and disbelief 🤣

Ignorance is not bliss

jaephoenix:
1. Bro, if you can read properly I wrote generally about some patients, I wasnt specific about any. Some psychiatric cases are neurotic like anxiety disorders, you simply manage them. Some that are psychotic, you give antipsych and refer. Did I tell you the particular diagnosis? So why are you so sure I should have referred them? Are you daft?
2. Again, you're crazier by the second. When did I say psychosis is restricted to religious folks? I simply talked about the thought and hallucinatory contents of the religious folks.
3. [b]So what am I pretending to be, dear sire? [/b]Please I need you to answer this lemme prove you to be an ignorant liar
4. I dont care if you think am a physician or not. I really don't a dangling fuckc. Lol. Post my address in a faceless and public forum? Are you nuts? Why dont you post yours? I'll come myself and meet you
5. Atheists commit suicide. Theists commit suicide. And stop picking your data from ignoramuses like you. Visit scientific or in this case, medical journals or sites.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7310534/

You really have been triggered and now in your element . All your swear words and name calling are evidences of your frustration.
Next time don't quote me if you are not ready for serious discussion.

You were calling me out that I refused to answer your question ,and since I answered , nothing reasonable as come out it , but your usual empty and wayward talk .

In any case ,I have given you a vital info . Atheist have a suicide problem whether you believe it or not . There is an explanation why it's so. Go learn about it .

Prevention is better than cure so they say .

Other informed atheist are aware of the problem , and creating awareness with taking practical steps to deal with it.
But you are here on Nairaland living in denial .

The article you reference is saying a different thing and doesn't directly deal with the problem atheist are facing .
So I wonder why you brought it.

You went searching for anything to support what you want to believe .

Goodluck . I wish you well not suicide .

triplechoice:
You really have been triggered and now in your element . All your swear words and name calling are evidences of your frustration.
Next time don't quote me if you are not ready for serious discussion.

You were calling me out that I refused to answer your question ,and since I answered , nothing reasonable as come out it , but your usual empty and wayward talk .

In any case ,I have given you a vital info . Atheist have a suicide problem whether you believe it or not . There is an explanation why it's so. Go learn about it .

Prevention is better than cure so they say .

Other informed atheist are aware of the problem , and creating awareness with taking practical steps to deal with it.
But you are here on Nairaland living in denial .

The article you reference is saying a different thing and doesn't directly deal with the problem atheist are facing .
So I wonder why you brought it.

You went searching for anything to support what you want to believe .

Goodluck . I wish you well not suicide .

Most people that call themselves atheists are not atheists, they are just taking breaks from their various gods, same way you are doing with your monotheism and defending a “creator” that’s also known as “god” 😂

I am sure your suicide stat is only in the WEST. When are you gonna show stat of “buddist” or jains that are also atheists, huh triplechoice?

Workch:
Really, let's check Oxford dictionary.

Atheism is a joke 😂

So according to LordReed, if you are not believing something, then it's not same as lacking belief in it.

have you checked Oxford dictionary for agnosticism that is a BELIEF just like theism?

Lordreed KnownUnknown Triplechoice come and see something oo 😂

jaephoenix:
1. Bro, if you can read properly I wrote generally about some patients, I wasnt specific about any. Some psychiatric cases are neurotic like anxiety disorders, you simply manage them. Some that are psychotic, you give antipsych and refer. Did I tell you the particular diagnosis? So why are you so sure I should have referred them? Are you daft?
2. Again, you're crazier by the second. When did I say psychosis is restricted to religious folks? I simply talked about the thought and hallucinatory contents of the religious folks.
3. [b]So what am I pretending to be, dear sire? [/b]Please I need you to answer this lemme prove you to be an ignorant liar
4. I dont care if you think am a physician or not. I really don't a dangling fuckc. Lol. Post my address in a faceless and public forum? Are you nuts? Why dont you post yours? I'll come myself and meet you
5. Atheists commit suicide. Theists commit suicide. And stop picking your data from ignoramuses like you. Visit scientific or in this case, medical journals or sites.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7310534/

You have really been triggered and now in your element . All your swear words and name calling are evidences of your frustration.
Next time don't quote me if you are not ready for serious discussion.

You were calling me out that I refused to answer your question ,and since I answered , nothing reasonable as come out it , but your usual empty and wayward talk .

In any case ,I have given you a vital info . Atheist have a suicide problem whether you believe it or not . There is an explanation why it's so. Go learn about it .

Prevention they say, is better than cure.

Other informed atheist are aware of the problem , and creating awareness with practical steps to deal with it.
But you are here on Nairaland living in denial .

You are a new atheist convert hence the noises . By the time your atheism is tested ,you will learn the real truth about the world you live in ;it's not a brick solid universe as you think

After then ,you will change your behaviour and maybe move on from atheism into another thing,and then start to respect to other people .


The article you reference is saying a different thing and doesn't directly deal with the problem atheist are facing .
So I wonder why you brought it.

You went searching for anything to support what you want to believe .

Goodluck . I wish you well not suicide .

Workch:
So in your book:

Lack of belief does not mean "disbelief"?

Let's know where your problem lies 😂

Just imagine the talk

The prefix -dis before belief means ,not ,a negation ,

So, the word ,disbelief it's the same with the phrase lack of belief.

Leave Reed . He wants to confuse you because he is stuck .

He is the same person in the other thread who wanted to mock with

The half statement ,

"I don't believe '

With the full one ,


'I neither believe nor disbelieve '

He wanted to play some mental abracadabra ,but he failed woefully

LordReed:
LoLz. As in, seriously. They are just dancing around in some semantic gymnastics. Imagine someone saying "I don't believe" is not the same as "I neither believe nor disbelieve". I am just LMFAO.

triplechoice:
Just imagine the talk

The prefix -dis before belief means ,not ,a negation ,

So, the word ,disbelief it's the same with the phrase lack of belief.

Leave Reed . He wants to confuse you because he is stuck .

He is the same person in the other thread who wanted to mock with

The half statement ,

"I don't believe '

With the full one ,


'I neither believe nor disbelieve '

He wanted to play some mental abracadabra ,but he failed woefully

Illiterate; atheists don’t believe any gods, they have ZERO BELIEFS.
Saying "I lack a belief" aligns more with "non-belief." It indicates that you don't hold a specific belief in a particular concept or claim. "Disbelief," on the other hand, implies actively rejecting or negating a belief that you might have encountered or considered.

Not to forget that agnosticism is a “Belief” saying nothing certain can be Known about the existence of God or anything else beyond the material.

How did the agnostics arrive at that conclusion?

triplechoice:
Just imagine the talk

The prefix -dis before belief means ,not ,a negation ,

So, the word ,disbelief it's the same with the phrase lack of belief.

Leave Reed . He wants to confuse you because he is stuck .

He is the same person in the other thread who wanted to mock with

The half statement ,

"I don't believe '

With the full one ,


'I neither believe nor disbelieve '

He wanted to play some mental abracadabra ,but he failed woefully

For you to learn more.

Non-Belief: Imagine someone who has never heard about aliens before. They haven't formed an opinion either way. If they say, "I lack a belief in aliens," they are expressing that they haven't accepted the idea of aliens due to a lack of information or exposure.

Disbelief: Now, consider someone who is well-versed in astronomy and understands the improbability of extraterrestrial life. If they say, "I disbelieve in aliens," they are actively negating the idea based on their knowledge and assessment of the evidence.

triplechoice:
You really have been triggered and now in your element . All your swear words and name calling are evidences of your frustration.
Next time don't quote me if you are not ready for serious discussion.

You were calling me out that I refused to answer your question ,and since I answered , nothing reasonable as come out it , but your usual empty and wayward talk .

In any case ,I have given you a vital info . Atheist have a suicide problem whether you believe it or not . There is an explanation why it's so. Go learn about it .

Prevention is better than cure so they say .

Other informed atheist are aware of the problem , and creating awareness with taking practical steps to deal with it.
But you are here on Nairaland living in denial .

The article you reference is saying a different thing and doesn't directly deal with the problem atheist are facing .
So I wonder why you brought it.

You went searching for anything to support what you want to believe .

Goodluck . I wish you well not suicide .

Lol. Looks who's talking about name calling?
I made a post. The post wasnt even directed at anyone, not even you. It wasn't even a reply or reply to anyone. Just my observation.
Suddenly you jumped in. Calling me a liar, quack etc. Out of the blues! I retaliated, and now you're screaming and playing the victim? Lets assume I'm not a medic and I made that post. You don't know me and I don't know you. So you have no rights to name-call anyone.
Please tell me what I'm pretending to be. I want to know that one.
About the suicide ish, I told you you're a liar and backed it with real scientific research from a reliable source. I was expecting same from you. So who's the quick now? Biatch!
Addedum:
Actually the article in question talked about the perceived or wrong notion that religion protects against suicide ideation or actions. And you have that wrong notion. So why I posted it is to show you suicide cuts across all walks of life. Its not particularly high in atheistic societitis because many factors contribute to suicides

I’m glad everyone is seeing how triplechoice is empty and barren just like his father.
In case you want to play victim, remember it was you that brought parents into the discussion.

The common sense your grandparents didn’t teach your parents which affected you, will be taught here.

Workch:
Really, let's check Oxford dictionary.

Atheism is a joke 😂

So according to LordReed, if you are not believing something, then it's not same as lacking belief in it.

Which Oxford Dictionary did you check?