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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:56pm On Aug 12, 2023
MentalCase98:
Funny how short you liberals memories are. Investigating Trump was ALL the democrats did for 4 years when he was president too. This is the republicans just getting even. Dems can choose to keep up the trend when they reclaim the house and we keep going like that till eternity.

Incase you really have amnesia, below is a link to ALL the investigations democrats launched on Trump and his administration;


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1010131
Trump is a career criminal.

From the 1980s until he was elected president in 2016, Donald Trump and his businesses were involved in over 4,000 legal cases in U.S. federal and state courts, including battles with casino patrons, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes.[1] He has also been accused of sexual harassment and sexual assault,[2][3] with one accusation resulting in Trump being held civilly liable.[4]

In 2015, his lawyer Alan Garten called this "a natural part of doing business" in the United States.[5][6] While litigation is indeed common in the real estate industry,[5] Trump has been involved in more legal cases than his fellow magnates Edward J. DeBartolo Jr., Donald Bren, Stephen M. Ross, Sam Zell, and Larry Silverstein combined.[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_and_business_legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump
It's not the democrats that started investigating Trump, in fact the justice department had Bern investigating Trump's criminal activities since 1973.

I view MAGA cult members as criminal minded and emotionally troubled people.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 9:25pm On Aug 12, 2023
wirinet:
Trump is a career criminal.




It's not the democrats that started investigating Trump, in fact the justice department had Bern investigating Trump's criminal activities since 1973.

I view MAGA cult members as criminal minded and emotionally troubled people.
A “career criminal” that somehow never got investigated, indicted, convicted or incarcerated for over 65 years of his life till he ran for president as a populist?

How convenient.

Try use your brain sometimes. Not every time emotions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:25pm On Aug 12, 2023
MentalCase98:
A “career criminal” that somehow never got investigated, indicted, convicted or incarcerated for over 65 years of his life till he ran for president as a populist?

How convenient.

Try use your brain sometimes. Not every time emotions.
Are you just deaf, dumb and blind or you are just pretending. Trump that had been investigated over a dozen times, indicted multiple times and found liable in numerous occasions (most times he pays his way out of law suits by settling out of court). The only thing that Trump has not faced yet is jail time, and we are waiting for the outcome of documents and Jan 6 cases.

A MAGA cult member asking someone to use his brains, what an irony.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 10:31pm On Aug 12, 2023
wirinet:
Are you just deaf, dumb and blind or you are just pretending. Trump that had been investigated over a dozen times, indicted multiple times and found liable in numerous occasions (most times he pays his way out of law suits by settling out of court). The only thing that Trump has not faced yet is jail time, and we are waiting for the outcome of documents and Jan 6 cases.

A MAGA cult member asking someone to use his brains, what an irony.
Trump had NEVER been criminally indicted before. Hahahha

Delusional. Your head is so far up Bidens ass you can’t even respect facts anymore.

Show me evidence of Trump EVER being criminally indicted before he became president. Post it here. If its true then it should be easily accessible online.


I don’t even know why I bother arguing with you emotional clowns.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 10:32pm On Aug 12, 2023
wirinet:
Are you just deaf, dumb and blind or you are just pretending. Trump that had been investigated over a dozen times, indicted multiple times and found liable in numerous occasions (most times he pays his way out of law suits by settling out of court). The only thing that Trump has not faced yet is jail time, and we are waiting for the outcome of documents and Jan 6 cases.

A MAGA cult member asking someone to use his brains, what an irony.
A civil lawsuit is not same thing as a criminal indictment you moronn

Are all liberals just illiterate or what? I can’t understand you guys.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 10:41pm On Aug 12, 2023
wirinet:
Are you just deaf, dumb and blind or you are just pretending. Trump that had been investigated over a dozen times, indicted multiple times and found liable in numerous occasions (most times he pays his way out of law suits by settling out of court). The only thing that Trump has not faced yet is jail time, and we are waiting for the outcome of documents and Jan 6 cases.

A MAGA cult member asking someone to use his brains, what an irony.
Many businessmen face countless civil lawsuits throughout their career. It’s a form of dispute resolution. It does not make one a criminal.

A criminal indictment is a COMPLETELY different thing.

Please refrain from opining on topics that you clearly don’t have the bandwidth to understand. You just make a fool of yourself.

See how I’m breaking down common law to you like a child. I feel embarrassed on your behalf.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:46pm On Aug 12, 2023
MentalCase98:
A civil lawsuit is not same thing as a criminal indictment you moronn

Are all liberals just illiterate or what? I can’t understand you guys.
I better heed the advice of not arguing with a madman/mental case, as they say passersby might not know the difference.

It's only depraved madmen that would worship a twice divorced, pussy grabbing liable rapist and conman as personal lord and saviour.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 11:12pm On Aug 12, 2023
wirinet:
I better heed the advice of not arguing with a madman/mental case, as they say passersby might not know the difference.

It's only depraved madmen that would worship a twice divorced, pussy grabbing liable rapist and conman as personal lord and saviour.
Yup, Just like I thought. No substantial answer to my actual question. Just the usual barrage of emotional insults and leftwing taking points that your Democrat paymasters have instilled in your minimum capacity brain.

Answer my simple question fool; was Trump ever criminally indicted for anything in his 70 years of life before becoming president?

If yes then show me the evidence. If no then tell me how a “career criminal” as you described him can go an entire human lifespan without ever getting indicted until he pissed off a few powerful people by running for president.

I expect nothing but more emotional gibberish and insults from you though.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:23pm On Aug 12, 2023
wirinet:
Trump is a career criminal.




It's not the democrats that started investigating Trump, in fact the justice department had Bern investigating Trump's criminal activities since 1973.

I view MAGA cult members as criminal minded and emotionally troubled people.
Liar. Lol the derangement is strong. TDS is now a religion.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:25pm On Aug 12, 2023
MentalCase98:
A “career criminal” that somehow never got investigated, indicted, convicted or incarcerated for over 65 years of his life till he ran for president as a populist?

How convenient.

Try use your brain sometimes. Not every time emotions.
Wirinet is still figuring that out. When he learns to use his brain we will celebrate
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum:
wirinet:
I better heed the advice of not arguing with a madman/mental case, as they say passersby might not know the difference.

It's only depraved madmen that would worship a twice divorced, pussy grabbing liable rapist and conman as personal lord and saviour.
How I so wish this isn't forgotten.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:26pm On Aug 12, 2023
wirinet:
Are you just deaf, dumb and blind or you are just pretending. Trump that had been investigated over a dozen times, indicted multiple times and found liable in numerous occasions (most times he pays his way out of law suits by settling out of court). The only thing that Trump has not faced yet is jail time, and we are waiting for the outcome of documents and Jan 6 cases.

A MAGA cult member asking someone to use his brains, what an irony.
You do not know the difference between gay and transgender. A civil lawsuit is not a criminal lawsuit .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:27pm On Aug 12, 2023
MentalCase98:
Many businessmen face countless civil lawsuits throughout their career. It’s a form of dispute resolution. It does not make one a criminal.

A criminal indictment is a COMPLETELY different thing.

Please refrain from opining on topics that you clearly don’t have the bandwidth to understand. You just make a fool of yourself.

See how I’m breaking down common law to you like a child. I feel embarrassed on your behalf.
Trump is not a businessman, he is a con artist. He cons people and use his wealth (which he got by conning people of course) to escape justice. He conned his siblings of the inheritance their father left for all his children and grandchildren. He invested in various ventures which all failed. He declared bankruptcy 4 times. He is the only businessman I know that could bankrupt a casino business. By 1991 Trump was $8 billion in debt according to his daughter Ivanka. It was Russian oligarchs that bailed out Trump by buying his properties at exorbitant prices, sometimes up to 3 times their estimated value.

I have known Trump since the 90s. I had a friend who was in love with him. He had his book "the art of the deal". He gave me the book to read, and after reading it, I concluded he was a criminal. And since then he has not disappointed me.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:28pm On Aug 12, 2023
bemeruca:
You do not know the difference between gay and transgender. A civil lawsuit is not a criminal lawsuit .
That's because I am not interested in such issues.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:29pm On Aug 12, 2023
MentalCase98:
Yup, Just like I thought. No substantial answer to my actual question. Just the usual barrage of emotional insults and leftwing taking points that your Democrat paymasters have instilled in your minimum capacity brain.

Answer my simple question fool; was Trump ever criminally indicted for anything in his 70 years of life before becoming president?

If yes then show me the evidence. If no then tell me how a “career criminal” as you described him can go an entire human lifespan without ever getting indicted until he pissed off a few powerful people by running for president.

I expect nothing but more emotional gibberish and insults from you though.
Asking him to use is head is like asking him to lift budaatum's head.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:32pm On Aug 12, 2023
wirinet:
That's because I am not interested in such issues.
Which is why before you show interest to discuss about it... You should know what you are talking
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:35pm On Aug 12, 2023
bemeruca:
Which is why before you show interest to discuss about it... You should know what you are talking
I do not talk about transgenderism or gayism.

About Civil and criminal cases, I know about that very well. And I know that it's near impossible to catch crime lords on criminal charges, because they use fronts to cover their tracks and use expensive lawyers to cheat the system. The justice department catches them on civil cases like tax evasion, money laundering and class action suits.
A typical example was Al capone. Al Capone was never convicted of murder, extortion or drug trafficking, he was jailed for tax evasion.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:45pm On Aug 12, 2023
wirinet:
I do not talk about transgenderism or gayism.

About Civil and criminal cases, I Know About That Very Well. And I Know That It's Near Impossible To Catch Crime Lords On Criminal Charges, Because They Use Fronts To Cover Their tracks and use expensive lawyers to cheat the system. The justice department catches them on civil cases like tax evasion, money laundering and class action suits.
A typical example was Al capone. Al Capone was never convicted of murder, extortion or drug trafficking, he was jailed for tax evasion.
Conspiracy nuts grin

How come you don't believe biden is doing the same now. These people here grin

So can you prove to us that tax evasion is a civil offence and Al capone was put in prison with a civil lawsuit?

I will wait. cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:52pm On Aug 12, 2023
bemeruca:
Conspiracy nuts grin

How come you don't believe biden is doing the same now. These people here grin
Because Biden don't have a long history of conning people and definitely doesn't have over 4,000 legal cases in U.S. federal and state courts, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes. Biden also does not 25 sexual harassment and sexual assault accusations hanging on him.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:57pm On Aug 12, 2023
bemeruca:
Conspiracy nuts grin

How come you don't believe biden is doing the same now. These people here grin

So can you prove to us that tax evasion is a civil offence and Al capone was put in prison with a civil lawsuit?

I will wait. cheesy
I know tax evasion is not a civil matter, but its not as serious as murder, extortion and drug trafficking which Al Capone was famed for.
I am typing on my bed partially awake, so am bound to make mistakes.

It will be difficult to catch criminal Trump on tax evasion even though he evades taxes. This is because he has an army of accountants and lawyers cooking his books. That's why he admits to tax avoidance, which to me is the same thing as tax evasion.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 12:00am On Aug 13, 2023
wirinet:
Trump is not a businessman, he is a con artist. He cons people and use his wealth (which he got by conning people of course) to escape justice. He conned his siblings of the inheritance their father left for all his children and grandchildren. He invested in various ventures which all failed. He declared bankruptcy 4 times. He is the only businessman I know that could bankrupt a casino business. By 1991 Trump was $8 billion in debt according to his daughter Ivanka. It was Russian oligarchs that bailed out Trump by buying his properties at exorbitant prices, sometimes up to 3 times their estimated value.

I have known Trump since the 90s. I had a friend who was in love with him. He had his book "the art of the deal". He gave me the book to read, and after reading it, I concluded he was a criminal. And since then he has not disappointed me.
Another epistle filled with emotional gibberish that I can’t be bothered to read. What is wrong with you liberals?! Are you all incapable of answering questions directly and succinctly?

I asked you a simple question; was Trump EVER criminally indicted for all these multitude of crimes you guys accuse him of in the 70 years before he became president?

Yes or no. Simple.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 12:02am On Aug 13, 2023
bemeruca:
Asking him to use is head is like asking him to lift budaatum's head.
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 12:05am On Aug 13, 2023
MentalCase98:
Another epistle filled with emotional gibberish that I can’t be bothered to read. What is wrong with you liberals?! Are you all incapable of answering questions directly and succinctly?

I asked you a simple question; was Trump EVER criminally indicted for all these multitude of crimes you guys accuse him of in the 70 years before he became president?

Yes or no. Simple.
Trump is a criminal. People closest to him outside his children don't have anything nice to say about him. Newyork where he lived snd grew up know him as a criminal. If you like go am strap a belt bomb and blow up yourself, it will not change the fact that Trump is a criminal.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 12:22am On Aug 13, 2023
wirinet:
Trump is a criminal. People closest to him outside his children don't have anything nice to say about him. Newyork where he lived snd grew up know him as a criminal. If you like go am strap a belt bomb and blow up yourself, it will not change the fact that Trump is a criminal.
Go and sleep you’re actually boring I swear. Just keep shouting “criminal” like a lunatic. I’m asking you how such a massive criminal managed to evade indictment for 70 years until he entered politics and you have no answer.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:27am On Aug 13, 2023
wirinet:
That's why he admits to tax avoidance, which to me is the same thing as tax evasion.
These are very distinct. The former is perfectly legit. The latter is criminal.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:17am On Aug 13, 2023
DeepSight:
These are very distinct. The former is perfectly legit. The latter is criminal.
He just doesn't understand
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:26am On Aug 13, 2023
MentalCase98:
Yup, Just like I thought. No substantial answer to my actual question. Just the usual barrage of emotional insults and leftwing taking points that your Democrat paymasters have instilled in your minimum capacity brain.

Answer my simple question fool; was Trump ever criminally indicted for anything in his 70 years of life before becoming president?

If yes then show me the evidence. If no then tell me how a “career criminal” as you described him can go an entire human lifespan without ever getting indicted until he pissed off a few powerful people by running for president.

I expect nothing but more emotional gibberish and insults from you though.
Stop challenging him. He cannot be believe he is wrong, He spews Twitter TDS garbage.
It's a real cult. Mind made up , he dare not seek the truth because it would break him apart.
I compare wirinet and Co to those 900 fanatics who took cyanide in the 70s.
Like robots They have been programmed into hatred.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:14am On Aug 13, 2023
Climate change suggested solutions
This is a real cult. Reason has been thrown out of the window.

Repeat the phrase climate crisis on every opportunity.
Spray some chemicals in the air that will reflect the sun's direct energy from reaching the earth. Ridiculous.
JoeBiden is funding construction of two giant vacuumers to suck CO2 from the air to store it underground or use it for industrial purposes.
[s]Matter can be never be created or destroyed[/s]
Agriculture is major contributor to climate change. Livestock needs to be culled, domestic pets need to stop fueling demand for beef & beef products, we need to go net zero, gas stoves, pizza coal stoves, home heating needs to be reduced drastically.

How did we get here?


1960s - "Oil will be gone in 10 years. We need millions to fix it."
1970s - "There will be an Ice Age in 10 years. We need millions to fix it."
1980s - "Acid rain will destroy all the crops in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
1990s - "The Ozone layer will be destroyed in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2000s - "The glaciers will all melt in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2010s - "The coast will be underwater in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2020s - "Climate Change will kill us all in 10 years. We need trillions to fix it."
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:51am On Aug 13, 2023
Budaa,
I read somewhere that there are some Ulta Low Emission Zones in London. Where you pay £12.50 per day if you drive in there.And that it's under constant surveillance.

I am sure you agree with this ... Everybody needs clean air
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:01am On Aug 13, 2023
basilico:
Stop challenging him. He cannot be believe he is wrong, He spews Twitter TDS garbage.
It's a real cult. Mind made up , he dare not seek the truth because it would break him apart.
I compare wirinet and Co to those 900 fanatics who took cyanide in the 70s.
Like robots They have been programmed into hatred.
This is Trump's style of deflecting his crimes. He accuses people of exactly the crimes he is involved with. His cult Members learn from him and use the same deflecting strategy.

Liberals don't worship any anyone, they don't even worship any religious figure, not to talk of a mere mortal. You will see many liberals critical of Joe Biden. Its an abomination for any MAGA cult Member to criticise Trump. They are worse than Muslim fanatics when it come to their religious figure. They become emotionally unstable when anyone insults their leader. They threaten violence, they spew out personal insults or begin to cry if they feel helpless to do anything. You can feel the emotional tears in the posts of Basilico, MentalCase and fellow nairaland MAGA brigade.

I am not particularly fond of Joe Biden, he is a typical career politician. My favourite US president was Ronald Reagan. But l love Joe Biden in comparison to Trump. Trump represents every negative character of a human being. He is a criminal - he has cheated everyone he engaged in business with. He holds no loyalty to anyone - not even his wives. He cannot sacrifice for anyone - not even his country.
I cannot even be friends with someone that worships Trump. Our values are diametrically opposite. I don't cheat, lie, or exploit poor and vulnerable people.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:37am On Aug 13, 2023
wirinet:
This is Trump's style of deflecting his crimes. He accuses people of exactly the crimes he is involved with. His cult Members learn from him and use the same deflecting strategy.

Liberals don't worship any anyone, they don't even worship any religious figure, not to talk of a mere mortal. You will see many liberals critical of Joe Biden. Its an abomination for any MAGA cult Member to criticise Trump. They are worse than Muslim fanatics when it come to their religious figure. They become emotionally unstable when anyone insults their leader. They threaten violence, they spew out personal insults or begin to cry if they feel helpless to do anything. You can feel the emotional tears in the posts of Basilico, MentalCase and fellow nairaland MAGA brigade.

I am not particularly fond of Joe Biden, he is a typical career politician. My favourite US president was Ronald Reagan. But l love Joe Biden in comparison to Trump. Trump represents every negative character of a human being. He is a criminal - he has cheated everyone he engaged in business with. He holds no loyalty to anyone - not even his wives. He cannot sacrifice for anyone - not even his country.
I cannot even be friends with someone that worships Trump. Our values are diametrically opposite. I don't cheat, lie, or exploit poor and vulnerable people.
That hatred of yours is not from your own analysis of Trump.
You have been asked, why is there no criminal indictment before he got into politics. Trump has been litigated extensively during his years. Perfectly understandable in matters civil.
From 2015 it's been effort and effort, 99% negative media coverage ,looking for anything to sully his name.
You love Joe Biden You don't see any crimes with witnesses coming forward, bank statements, biased plea deals, tax evasions and now a SC to prevent him from being subpoenad by the House Committee. You see no crime at all of bribery. That is the definition of a cult.Democrats to you can commit no evil.

Trump supporters schill for him because they can see he is being persecuted. Accused of rape by someone who cant remember the date,year and the place......next to his hotel.
The democrats don't want Trump to ever win, they are going all out now. From the IC , the DoJ, Federal Agencies and the media. One giant coordinated take down of him.

When people are in power illegally they go after their opponents thinking they will never relinquish power.
A time is coming. I'm not sure how you will handle after believing democrat lies through their PR wing media.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
basilico:
Climate change suggested solutions
This is a real cult. Reason has been thrown out of the window.

Repeat the phrase climate crisis on every opportunity.
Spray some chemicals in the air that will reflect the sun's direct energy from reaching the earth. Ridiculous.
JoeBiden is funding construction of two giant vacuumers to suck CO2 from the air to store it underground or use it for industrial purposes.
[s]Matter can be never be created or destroyed[/s]
Agriculture is major contributor to climate change. Livestock needs to be culled, domestic pets need to stop fueling demand for beef & beef products, we need to go net zero, gas stoves, pizza coal stoves, home heating needs to be reduced drastically.

How did we get here?


1960s - "Oil will be gone in 10 years. We need millions to fix it."
1970s - "There will be an Ice Age in 10 years. We need millions to fix it."
1980s - "Acid rain will destroy all the crops in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
1990s - "The Ozone layer will be destroyed in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2000s - "The glaciers will all melt in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2010s - "The coast will be underwater in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
2020s - "Climate Change will kill us all in 10 years. We need trillions to fix it."
No difference between you guys and flat earthers. I was surprised that there are flat earthers on this site. I have actually argued with one, I left just shaking my head in disbelief and in pity.

You guys are simply science deniers, the history of civilization is replete with science deniers, From Heliocentricity, to Evolution, to Big Bang, to even covid and now to climate change.
The reason for science denyism is purely religion, once a science concept is in conflict with prevailing religious doctrine as interpreted in their religious books, they deny.

It unreasonable to suppose that burning of fossil fuels that started since the start of the industrial revolution did not have any effect on the atmosphere. Are you guys saying that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas, or that all the carbon dioxide pumped into the atmosphere daily by billions of vehicles, factories and power generators won't have any climatic effect in the long run? If you guys are positing thar the climate change effects is being exaggerated, I will understand, but to deny it altogether is senseless.
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