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Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:32pm On Aug 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
All the judges in Judea agreed that Jesus is guilty of twisting God's word so he deserves to die {Matthew 26:65-66} these are people who are KNOWLEDGEABLE in the scriptures...
See jw perversion.

No where did Christ see "all the judges" only the judge He was arranged to see o.

Now who is committing the sin of lying.aka perversion and twisting, is it jw beliefs or you the doer of evil?
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m):
Dtruthspeaker:
See jw perversion.
No where did Christ see "all the judges" only the judge He was arranged to see o.
Now who is committing the sin of lying.aka perversion and twisting, is it jw beliefs or you the doer of evil?
See your chat with a fellow human like you:
Dtruthspeaker:
Says the mad drug fed failure who his olosho mother rejected and threw in the dustbin. Your madness is obviously working. Useless universal failure. Gray haired at 30, died at at 30 and 2 months.
Go and learn how to converse maturely before coming to me! smiley
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:11pm On Aug 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
See your chat with a fellow human like you:
Go and learn how to converse maturely before coming to me! smiley
I attacked a dog who blasphemed The Lord as commanded, whats your justification?
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:28pm On Aug 17, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
I attacked a dog who blasphemed The Lord as commanded, whats your justification?
Commanded by who?
And to whom? undecided

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob spoke to the Israelites through prophets {Hebrews 1:1} you're not an Israelite so the person God used to speak to people of the nations like you and i is Jesus {Hebrews 1:2} Jesus commanded his own disciples never to curse anyone! Luke 6:27-28

Definitely you deliberately disregard God's son and instead of being remorseful you're trying to justify your disobedience to God's son.

So go and learn how to converse maturely i'm not your kind!
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:02pm On Aug 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Commanded by who?
And to whom? undecided
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob spoke to the Israelites through prophets {Hebrews 1:1} you're not an Israelite so the person God used to speak to people of the nations like you and i is Jesus {Hebrews 1:2} Jesus commanded his own disciples never to curse anyone! Luke 6:27-28

Definitely you deliberately disregard God's son and instead of being remorseful you're trying to justify your disobedience to God's son.

So go and learn how to converse maturely i'm not your kind!
Jesus is The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, so i am in order and under Psalm 94:16

Over to you jw whats your justification for committing the sin of lying aka perverting the bible and twisting it just as the Pharisees did?

is it a jw belief to pervert the Bible or you are just the doer of evil?
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:11pm On Aug 17, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Jesus is The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, so i am in order and under Psalm 94:16
Where is this written in the Bible?
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:17pm On Aug 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Where is this written in the Bible?
You are just proving more and more why I jws are antiChrist else you would have known this. Every Christian knows this.

So over to and this is your 3rd and final chance, what is your justification for committing the sin of lying aka perverting the bible and twisting it just as the Pharisees did?

is it a jw belief to pervert the Bible or you are just the doer of evil as you are proving yourself to be?
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:31pm On Aug 17, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
You are just proving more and more why I jws are antiChrist else you would have known this. Every Christian knows this.
I wonder how someone just talk thoughtlessly like this yet claiming he's a disciple of Jesus:
Dtruthspeaker:
Says the stupid one whose generation are the most stupid people the world has never seen as they have confessed. And you are so stupid not to see the signs that it is your generation that the world is slowly destroying with sufferings, depression, failures and deaths such that you people are growing gray hair ftom 30. You are finished already.
I haven't accused you of anything other than your attitude towards people so if you can't quote the scriptures that says Jesus is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob keep your beliefs to yourself i'm not ready for your exchange of hurtful words! undecided
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Nobody: 9:29pm On Aug 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
So what is the THEME of your MESSAGE? smiley
I won't force you into the argument that your misinterpretation created.
I thought you genuinely had reasons for answering other things aside from my main point... Now I realize it's a deliberate action from someone who is trying to run from the mess he's causing (lol).

Cos I really wonder what's the use of this question when I'm telling you to prove the authenticity of your message...
Is it supposed to be mockery? Cos unfortunately my Church doesn't do THEMES OF MESSAGE oo 😂

It's also wonderful that you don't have any reply for every other thing I've typed (apart from what you highlighted)

For reference:

preciousee17:
See it here, the problem is when you think someone doesn't believe what you're saying because it's JW doctrines... Or maybe you think I don't support you at all and I believe something very far and different.

If you check, you'll see what I replied to the OP
You'll also see that I didn't really condemn you at all, I only support the condemnation of mistranslation of the Bible

Mind you, my Church didn't reach out to me through evangelism or something...
I heard the teachings from the Church and it struck me as authentic, that's when I ran after the Church. We aren't pentecostal or celestial or any of those classifications, we're almost like you all, standing individually and we operate on things gotten from many places collectively, that's why you'll tend to see us share similarities with others...

For instance, we pray and speak in tongues like Mountain Of Fire
We are determined to unveil every truth in the Bible just like JW
We are keen on proper dressing just like Deeper Life and so on...
But we try our best not to pickup any bad character from any church.

All your talk on putting words to actions, you should have seen that we first of all live by faith, not works or size... TB Joshua's Church has done the most massive givings, Winners are the largest I'm size, Deeper Life has the most holy-looking souls... And so on... True Islams easily do everything and appear righteous (on the outside) that doesn't mean they'll make it to 'Paradise' so I would rather not use that as a basis for boasting (even when I know my Church members always stand out spiritually wherever they appear)

Then I made it clear that I'm only after the truth and no one forced me to criticize anything because it comes from JW...
The first time I saw JW as something else was in my JSS3 when a member in my class told the class that there was no hell... I didn't really care much about any other thing she said but I had to step in and defend myself because I had sufficient proof that there's a hell. Not just JW, any other Church that disperses gibberish...like a brother that said pastors aren't meant to plant. The same brother said that birthdays are evil and till today, I can't argue against him cos I'm not sure yet.

So let's leave all these exaltation of Churches or whatever you call JW Gatherings and focus on proving that your message is genuine. It's not the Church I argue against, just the message.
preciousee17:
Haha... I just finished dropping a message about Church and this argument.

Have I ever said, "My pastor said..." whenever I'm dropping the meaning of a scripture (that's my own explanation of a scripture)... Rather you're the one who is spreading strictly JW interpretations for scriptures and proclaiming your Church so we can be sure...

I remember where I just listed multiple scriptures and you ran, meanwhile I just explained straightforward, without twist and i asked you to counter anyone.
You ended up defining a word, I did copy and paste definition and you ran all all.

I attended a church that teaches people how to read the Bible, not just how to listen so I can proudly say that no one will have an easy time convincing me to accept something false from the same Bible.
In all these, you could only highlight a line and ask a direction-less question out of it? 😂

Sorry but it's now official bro, you're one of the hypocrites I've found on NL.
Running away from the Bible? 😂😂

I always held you in higher esteem than other JWs, but now I realize that they're better than you, they always sat down with us and watched us open scriptures.
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Nobody: 9:34pm On Aug 17, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
See jw perversion.

No where did Christ see "all the judges" only the judge He was arranged to see o.

Now who is committing the sin of lying.aka perversion and twisting, is it jw beliefs or you the doer of evil?
I'm just realizing that this Max guy has some skill in shying away from the argument he created 😂😂

Exactly what I told him but he dodged a direct response 😏
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Nobody: 9:38pm On Aug 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Where is this written in the Bible?
Are you for real?
What manner of deep deception is flowing in this JW of an Organization...
You need proof that Jesus is the God of Abraham and descendants?

I never knew it was this bad 😂
Then you'll run away or twist the proof once it's brought out 😂😂

I now understand why Christian parents are always afraid of JWs meeting their children and attempting to preach to them.
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:21pm On Aug 17, 2023
preciousee17:
I won't force you into the argument that your misinterpretation created.
I thought you genuinely had reasons for answering other things aside from my main point... Now I realize it's a deliberate action from someone who is trying to run from the mess he's causing (lol).
Cos I really wonder what's the use of this question when I'm telling you to prove the authenticity of your message...
Is it supposed to be mockery? Cos unfortunately my Church doesn't do THEMES OF MESSAGE oo 😂
It's also wonderful that you don't have any reply for every other thing I've typed (apart from what you highlighted) For reference:
In all these, you could only highlight a line and ask a direction-less question out of it? 😂
Sorry but it's now official bro, you're one of the hypocrites I've found on NL.
Running away from the Bible? 😂😂
I always held you in higher esteem than other JWs, but now I realize that they're better than you, they always sat down with us and watched us open scriptures.
Theme of John's and Jesus' message is "God's Kingdom" both of them were PREACHING and TEACHING about God's Kingdom! Matthew 3:2; 4:17

So there's a reason why we go out to preach it's not just about Heaven is real, Hell is real! smiley
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:24pm On Aug 17, 2023
preciousee17:
Are you for real?
What manner of deep deception is flowing in this JW of an Organization...
You need proof that Jesus is the God of Abraham and descendants?
I never knew it was this bad 😂
Then you'll run away or twist the proof once it's brought out 😂😂
I now understand why Christian parents are always afraid of JWs meeting their children and attempting to preach to them.
Can you just quote a verse where it's written that "Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?" smiley
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:31pm On Aug 17, 2023
preciousee17:
I'm just realizing that this Max guy has some skill in shying away from the argument he created 😂😂
Exactly what I told him but he dodged a direct response 😏
I always avoid fruitless arguments if you just want to argue on WORDS (LETTERS) written in the Bible we try to show you the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you're reading/quoting because that's the evidence of God's SPIRIT:

Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.2 Corinthians 3:6
So instead of arguing on LETTERS we bring it to live by presenting the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of God's word! smiley
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:52am On Aug 18, 2023
preciousee17:
I'm just realizing that this Max guy has some skill in shying away from the argument he created 😂😂

Exactly what I told him but he dodged a direct response 😏
Somehow, one would say that he has to dodge or run as he cannot protect the lie he laid, without more lies.
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:00am On Aug 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I always avoid fruitless arguments if you just want to argue on WORDS (LETTERS) written in the Bible we try to show you the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you're reading/quoting because that's the evidence of God's SPIRIT:

So instead of arguing on LETTERS we bring it to live by presenting the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of God's word! smiley
Your practical application shows you PERVERTING AND TWISTING (LYING) the bible like the pharisees did.

And Christ Said that you pharisees are children of devils
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:14am On Aug 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I wonder how someone just talk thoughtlessly like this yet claiming he's a disciple of Jesus:

I haven't accused you of anything other than your attitude towards people so if you can't quote the scriptures that says Jesus is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob keep your beliefs to yourself i'm not ready for your exchange of hurtful words! undecided
You always accuse me when i attack people who insult The Lord, which clearly means that you are actually a devil and that you do not mind His being attacked.

That aside you clearly committing the sin of lying and perverting the bible and clearly you have no justification.

God will judge our accusations.
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:16am On Aug 18, 2023
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Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Nobody: 6:45am On Aug 18, 2023
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=125181833][/quote]Abeg carry your reply and go.
Dodging the truth ever since huh
You're only comfortable when the Bible is interpreted in your own ways only and afraid of Truth being brought in front of your face.
Thank God the Islam religion is growing and many are practicing it and finding their form of peace.
Let's see how far the message, interpretation and practice will take a person when he/she is preaching falsehood.

You have a large fanbase that practice what you teach automatically makes it the truth? 😂😂
The Pharisees will teach you that they had a larger fanbase that was capable of killing the Son of God.
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:39am On Aug 18, 2023
preciousee17:
Abeg carry your reply and go.
Good!
So there's no need engaging each other henceforth, go and worship with your fellow believers while i worship with my fellow believers. Your God differ from mine.

Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have peace! smiley
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m):
Dtruthspeaker:
You always accuse me when i attack people who insult The Lord, which clearly means that you are actually a devil and that you do not mind His being attacked.
Did Jesus ask anyone to CURSE people for the things they say against Jesus? Luke 6:27-28 smiley

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the bleating bastard who his olosho mother picked from the dustbin because you were even discarded as useless and unprofitable by baby factories and orphanages. Even the govt would have pretended they did not see if you were used for experiment. You can't even be used for rituals. Proof of your failure and present and future uselessness. Fungus
Please quote where Jesus ordered his disciples to return insults for insult and curses for curse! Matthew 5:44
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:50am On Aug 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Did Jesus ask anyone to CURSE people for the things they say against Jesus? Luke 6:27-28 smiley

Please quote where Jesus ordered his disciples to return insults for insult and curses for curse! Matthew 5:44
I have already answered you and your repeating and dodging just proves that jws are devils and liars and antiChrists who are blasphemers.

And you shall have your part in the fire with them who are blasphemers.
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Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:00am On Aug 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
I have already answered you and your repeating and dodging just proves that jws are devils and liars and antiChrists who are blasphemers. And you shall have your part in the fire with them who are blasphemers..
OK nah! grin
Just remember that Jesus can't be the God of Abraham until you're able to quote it in the scriptures! wink
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:46am On Aug 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
OK nah! grin
Just remember that Jesus can't be the God of Abraham until you're able to quote it in the scriptures! wink
O i remember. You people deleted John 1:1, so nothing stops you people from removing from scriptures and adding to it. Proof that you people are devils and antiChrists.

But hol up, have you people also removed the part that He Said "before Abraham was, I AM"?

The same "I AM" Who Spoke to Moses!

O, i remember,you devils have removed this one too. Eternal Fire is waiting for all of you.
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:30pm On Aug 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
O i remember. You people deleted John 1:1, so nothing stops you people from removing from scriptures and adding to it. Proof that you people are devils and antiChrists.
But hol up, have you people also removed the part that He Said "before Abraham was, I AM"?
The same "I AM" Who Spoke to Moses!
O, i remember,you devils have removed this one too. Eternal Fire is waiting for all of you.
So saying he existed before Abraham means he is the God of Abraham shey?

“Most truly I say to you, before Abraham came into existence, I have been (in existence).” John 8:58

OK nah! grin
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by Nobody: 1:20pm On Aug 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Good!
So there's no need engaging each other henceforth, go and worship with your fellow believers while i worship with my fellow believers. Your God differ from mine.

Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have peace! smiley
There wasn't any need before... My God differs from yours.
Re: If The Kingdom Of God Is Within Me, Which Other Heaven Do Churches Preach? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:37pm On Aug 18, 2023
preciousee17:
There wasn't any need before... My God differs from yours.
That's good to know! smiley
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