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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WonderMan76: 8:43am On Aug 20, 2023
Meanwhile in Africa; shit is getting real. Russia is not playing around. America and the west will be soundly defeated if they interfere in this. The people of Africa are fully behind the efforts of those fighting to end western Neo-colonialism and exploitation on our continent.

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BREAKING: A Russian plane has landed in Niger capital, Niamey, carrying hundreds of Wagner fighters it allegedly picked up from Syria. Wagner has recruited thousands of veterans of the Syrian civil war, mostly men who fought on behalf of the Syrian government and defeated ISIS, Al-Qaeda and the FSA. These men have incredible combat experience against terrorists. Syria is one of the first places where Wagner proved its combat superiority to the whole world. Without their efforts, the Syrian president would’ve gotten the Gaddafi treatment from the west a long time ago. But he prevailed. Thanks to RUSSIA and its elite fighting force, Wagner PMC.

Upon arriving Niger, Wagner had reportedly told the new Nigerien administration never to worry about any foreign army on Niger soil and specifically assured the leadership that Wagner will take on the Americans head on, if they ever dare to get involved in the conflict with ECOWAS, or try to deploy their drones.

Not sure if this threat is in anyway connected with America’s sudden readiness to evacuate two of its drone bases in Niger. The US maintains in Niger a large base of reconnaissance drones operating across AFRICA, Europe and the Middle East, as well as about 500 troops. France maintains a little over 1,200 soldiers in Niger.

At the moment, there are about 5,000 RUSSIAN funded volunteer fighters in AFRICA: They are mainly active in Mali, Libya, Sudan, Central African Republic, Mozambique and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

As reported earlier, Wagner will undertake the protection of the presidential palace in Niamey and the main infrastructures of the country potentially threatened by the impending Nigerian-led military action. With a personnel capacity of about 230,000 men, Nigeria is expected to contribute far more soldiers to the operation than any other country in the bloc. However the two countries with the strongest armies in AFRICA, Egypt and Algeria have warned against any military intervention in Niger, and vowed they’ll not stand idly and let that happen.

Reportedly, the morale of Niger’s military personnel is at an all time high right now, given that nearly the entire population of Niger are in support of the military and thousands have reportedly signed up to fight with the Russian volunteer force, Wagner PMC, in defense of their homeland.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WonderMan76: 8:52am On Aug 20, 2023
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:52am On Aug 20, 2023
basilico:
Theyshould be happy yes. Whythe cases did not proceed in the first instance? The subpoenas would have worked.
I am not sure about this but after 24 months the states can erase all data related to the elections.
Which I think many have, the most possibly damning evidence of machine logs, ballot verifications, video footage, email communications etc has been wiped out. Witnesses who had filed affidavits may have moved, died,been disappeared or blackmailed.
So the DAs can now proceed and charge anyone, knowing there is little evidence to be availed.
Trump and his distinguished fellow indictees will have to rely on bodies like voterga, 2000mules.
Just total Dem corruption.
Wild allegations without any semblance of reality. First and foremost the Georgia elections was conducted and ratified by Republicans and not democrats. The current governor and secretary of state are still all republicans.
Please be informed that according to the US constitution elections are a purely state matter.

Secondly, Georgia's ballot had been recounted multiple times - at least 3 times and no fraud was uncovered.
Thirdly, since you guys have been shouting "rigged elections" since 2019, particularly in Fulton County, one would have thought you made the allegations based on evidence you already have. It's inconceivable that you guys want to start searching for evidence now. I thought you guys already have all the affidavits you need. Please note affidavits by itself does not constitute evidence without physical evidence.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:00am On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
Meanwhile in Africa; shit is getting real. Russia is not playing around. America and the west will be soundly defeated if they interfere in this. The people of Africa are fully behind the efforts of those fighting to end western Neo-colonialism and exploitation on our continent.

———————————————————


BREAKING: A Russian plane has landed in Niger capital, Niamey, carrying hundreds of Wagner fighters it allegedly picked up from Syria. Wagner has recruited thousands of veterans of the Syrian civil war, mostly men who fought on behalf of the Syrian government and defeated ISIS, Al-Qaeda and the FSA. These men have incredible combat experience against terrorists. Syria is one of the first places where Wagner proved its combat superiority to the whole world. Without their efforts, the Syrian president would’ve gotten the Gaddafi treatment from the west a long time ago. But he prevailed. Thanks to RUSSIA and its elite fighting force, Wagner PMC.

Upon arriving Niger, Wagner had reportedly told the new Nigerien administration never to worry about any foreign army on Niger soil and specifically assured the leadership that Wagner will take on the Americans head on, if they ever dare to get involved in the conflict with ECOWAS, or try to deploy their drones.

Not sure if this threat is in anyway connected with America’s sudden readiness to evacuate two of its drone bases in Niger. The US maintains in Niger a large base of reconnaissance drones operating across AFRICA, Europe and the Middle East, as well as about 500 troops. France maintains a little over 1,200 soldiers in Niger.

At the moment, there are about 5,000 RUSSIAN funded volunteer fighters in AFRICA: They are mainly active in Mali, Libya, Sudan, Central African Republic, Mozambique and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

As reported earlier, Wagner will undertake the protection of the presidential palace in Niamey and the main infrastructures of the country potentially threatened by the impending Nigerian-led military action. With a personnel capacity of about 230,000 men, Nigeria is expected to contribute far more soldiers to the operation than any other country in the bloc. However the two countries with the strongest armies in AFRICA, Egypt and Algeria have warned against any military intervention in Niger, and vowed they’ll not stand idly and let that happen.

Reportedly, the morale of Niger’s military personnel is at an all time high right now, given that nearly the entire population of Niger are in support of the military and thousands have reportedly signed up to fight with the Russian volunteer force, Wagner PMC, in defense of their homeland.
Tinubu will be the most stupid human being on earth if he actually goad ECOWAS to attack Niger Republic. Niger coup was not the first in Africa and it will not be the last. In fact under General Buhari, there were 3 or 4 coups in ECOWAS countries,and Buhari did not utter a word. A war in Niger will completely destabilize not only Nigeria, not only West Africa, but the whole of the African continent. Africa would be the new battleground for the proxy war between US and its allies and Russia in alliance with China.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:06am On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
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And phone conversation between Joe Biden and his son is now a crime? It seems the Republicans have no other legislative or policy agenda apart from Hunter Biden. His phone calls, his business life, even his sex life is a legislative agenda to be discussed on the floor of the house.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:06am On Aug 20, 2023
wirinet:
Wild allegations without any semblance of reality. First and foremost the Georgia elections was conducted and ratified by Republicans and not democrats. The current governor and secretary of state are still all republicans.
Please be informed that according to the US constitution elections are a purely state matter.

Secondly, Georgia's ballot had been recounted multiple times - at least 3 times and no fraud was uncovered.
Thirdly, since you guys have been shouting "rigged elections" since 2019, particularly in Fulton County, one would have thought you made the allegations based on evidence you already have. It's inconceivable that you guys want to start searching for evidence now. I thought you guys already have all the affidavits you need. Please note affidavits by itself does not constitute evidence without physical evidence.
The Georgia guys were republicans who wanted Trump to lose. A lot if Republicans sought Trump endorsements, then turned against him.

How about Pennsylvania voter fraud?

Pennsylvania had six major incidents of voter fraud

1 & 2: Philadelphia & Pittsburg: In both of these cities there was an excessive amount of absentee ballots, a majority of which went to Biden (surprise). The vote totals from both Philadelphia and Pittsburg fail to conform to Benford’s law.

3: Dominion: Analysis conducted by “TrumanBlack” concludes that 220,883 votes were taken from Trump and given to Biden. Analysis conducted by “TrumanBlack” concludes that 941,248 votes disappeared during the counting from both candidates. An analysis of individual time stamped entries from the New York Times show 25 separate instances of deductions from Trump’s vote totals.

4: Downballot: There is a total vote difference of 145,030 when comparing the difference between presidential votes and the average of down ticket votes. The average of down ticket votes is calculated by taking the average of total votes for each “State AG”, “State Auditor”, “State Treasurer”, and “US Representative” in each county.

5: Ballot Count without Trump/Republican observers: Many ballots were counted in illegally due to lack of Trump/Republican observers. The Democrats went out of their way (halting counting days after election day) to get The Pennsylvania Supreme Court to rule so that they could count ballots without Trump/Republican observers. This is especially problematic given the large amounts of mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania.

6: Ballot Count without Signature Verification: In late October the Pennsylvania Supreme Court effectively ruled that mail-in ballots can be counted even if the signature on the mail-in ballot doesn’t match the signature on record. Democrat affidavits prove mail-in ballots were opened prior to election day without being subject to challenge by watchers at the polling places and, if “properly cast”, sealed or locked in containers at the county board of electors until they are canvassed by the county elections board
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WonderMan76: 9:49am On Aug 20, 2023
wirinet:
Tinubu will be the most stupid human being on earth if he actually goad ECOWAS to attack Niger Republic. Niger coup was not the first in Africa and it will not be the last. In fact under General Buhari, there were 3 or 4 coups in ECOWAS countries,and Buhari did not utter a word. A war in Niger will completely destabilize not only Nigeria, not only West Africa, but the whole of the African continent. Africa would be the new battleground for the proxy war between US and its allies and Russia in alliance with China.
You’re right but unfortunately Tinubu IS a stupid human being so that is exactly what’s likely to happen.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WonderMan76: 9:51am On Aug 20, 2023
wirinet:
And phone conversation between Joe Biden and his son is now a crime? It seems the Republicans have no other legislative or policy agenda apart from Hunter Biden. His phone calls, his business life, even his sex life is a legislative agenda to be discussed on the floor of the house.
The phone call itself is not a crime but it could have been “in furtherance” of a crime.

Abi that’s the parlance Dems are using to describe every random action Trump made around January 6th including random tweets and phone calls right?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
WonderMan76:
The phone call itself is not a crime but it could have been “in furtherance” of a crime.

Abi that’s the parlance Dems are using to describe every random action Trump made around January 6th including random tweets and phone calls right?
24 phone calls in the middle of a meeting with people who were sending Hunter Biden $$$ to shell companies for no work done.
JB having dinners with them and playing golf too.

Joe Biden lies saying he never discussed his biz. Now he says we was not involved in his business.
Hunter was paying Joe credit card bills through his company.
Hunters company was paying for Joe secret phone bill also. At one time hunter paid his lodging .
Let JB produce his bank records

Again, Weiss the recent Special Counsel was under pressure Hunter Biden lawyers threatened to out Joe Biden if Hunter was charged.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/hunter-bidens-lawyers-threatened-to-put-president-biden-on-witness-stand-if-hunter-was-charged-by-doj-report
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:00am On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
You’re right but unfortunately Tinubu IS a stupid human being so that is exactly what’s likely to happen.
If the Niger people are happy with the junta, why do the rest of the world demand they reinstall a president they don't want?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WonderMan76: 11:28am On Aug 20, 2023
basilico:
If the Niger people are happy with the junta, why do the rest of the world demand they reinstall a president they don't want?
Exactly. America and the west need to stop this attitude of telling people what’s good for them. Let people determine their own destinies.

But of course we all know it’s not really about “what’s good for them”. It’s always about money/resources. The west never involves themselves in any conflict that they don’t have anything to gain from.

This whole saga in Niger is all about France not wanting to lose its control over the country’s uranium deposits, its cash reserves saved in their banks as well as strategic military installations. They don’t really give a hoot about the long suffering people of Niger 🇳🇪
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:38am On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
Exactly. America and the west need to stop this attitude of telling people what’s good for them. Let people determine their own destinies.

But of course we all know it’s not really about “what’s good for them”. It’s always about money/resources. The west never involves themselves in any conflict that they don’t have anything to gain from.

This whole saga in Niger is all about France not wanting to lose its control over the country’s uranium deposits, its cash reserves saved in their banks as well as strategic military installations. They don’t really give a hoot about the long suffering people of Niger 🇳🇪
Might be another theatre of west vs Russia If Wagner deploys to Niger.I saw somewhere Niger people are turning out to join the army in large numbers.
A war we don't need .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WonderMan76: 1:00pm On Aug 20, 2023
basilico:
Might be another theatre of west vs Russia If Wagner deploys to Niger.I saw somewhere Niger people are turning out to join the army in large numbers.
A war we don't need .
Yes that’s exactly what it will be. Another west vs Russia proxy war but this one will be different from Ukraine because the people of Niger are not siding with the west. They are willing to side with Russia if that’s what it takes to gain their freedom from French Neo-colonialism.

I hear Wagner is already in the country. Burkina-Faso and other military led states are sending troops and resources there too. Egypt, Algeria, South Africa and other powerful African countries have warned the west not to interfere and that they will not support any NATO involvement.

It will be a bloody and costly mistake if Tinubu allows himself to be pressured or used like a puppet by the west to initiate the war by sending in ECOWAS troops.

Leave Niger alone. The people have had enough of western exploitation and want to take their country back!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MentalCase98: 1:24pm On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
Yes that’s exactly what it will be. Another west vs Russia proxy war but this one will be different from Ukraine because the people of Niger are not siding with the west. They are willing to side with Russia if that’s what it takes to gain their freedom from French Neo-colonialism.

I hear Wagner is already in the country. Burkina-Faso and other military led states are sending troops and resources there too. Egypt, Algeria, South Africa and other powerful African countries have warned the west not to interfere and that they will not support any NATO involvement.

It will be a bloody and costly mistake if Tinubu allows himself to be pressured or used like a puppet by the west to initiate the war by sending in ECOWAS troops.

Leave Niger alone. The people have had enough of western exploitation and want to take their country back!
Tinubu will do whatever the west say. All they have to do is threaten to reopen his file. That's the consequence Nigerian's have to face for electing a criminal drug lord as president.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 3:08pm On Aug 20, 2023
basilico:
Theyshould be happy yes. Whythe cases did not proceed in the first instance? The subpoenas would have worked.
I am not sure about this but after 24 months the states can erase all data related to the elections.
Which I think many have, the most possibly damning evidence of machine logs, ballot verifications, video footage, email communications etc has been wiped out. Witnesses who had filed affidavits may have moved, died,been disappeared or blackmailed.
So the DAs can now proceed and charge anyone, knowing there is little evidence to be availed.
Trump and his distinguished fellow indictees will have to rely on bodies like voterga, 2000mules.
Just total Dem corruption.
In a state that is under Republican control. Abeg look for another story to tell.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 3:18pm On Aug 20, 2023
wirinet:
Tinubu will be the most stupid human being on earth if he actually goad ECOWAS to attack Niger Republic. Niger coup was not the first in Africa and it will not be the last. In fact under General Buhari, there were 3 or 4 coups in ECOWAS countries,and Buhari did not utter a word. A war in Niger will completely destabilize not only Nigeria, not only West Africa, but the whole of the African continent. Africa would be the new battleground for the proxy war between US and its allies and Russia in alliance with China.
I agree. Tinubu should not be pursuing military action in Niger, not just because it would become a proxy war but moreso because we need to move towards fostering better relationships between African nations and build our own hegemony.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 3:44pm On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
The phone call itself is not a crime but it could have been “in furtherance” of a crime.

Abi that’s the parlance Dems are using to describe every random action Trump made around January 6th including random tweets and phone calls right?
I didn't know the synonym for concerted effort was random.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WonderMan76: 4:09pm On Aug 20, 2023
LordReed:
I didn't know the synonym for concerted effort was random.
The Biden's influence peddling, unregistered lobbying and money laundering in Ukraine and China was also a concerted effort and not random.

You see as long as you guys will never admit Biden did anything wrong, then stop expecting those on the other side to do the same re Trump.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 5:12pm On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
The Biden's influence peddling, unregistered lobbying and money laundering in Ukraine and China was also a concerted effort and not random.

You see as long as you guys will never admit Biden did anything wrong, then stop expecting those on the other side to do the same re Trump.
Bring the evidence he did something wrong and charge him to court, same as Trump.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WonderMan76: 5:47pm On Aug 20, 2023
LordReed:
Bring the evidence he did something wrong and charge him to court, same as Trump.
Oh we will. Rest assured we will. As soon as we gain power and control of the DOJ again. Don’t worry. That’s the new game right?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 5:50pm On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
Oh we will. Rest assured we will. As soon as we gain power and control of the DOJ again. Don’t worry. That’s the new game right?
LoLz! New? Remember Benghazi and her emails? Don't act like you have amnesia.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:21pm On Aug 20, 2023
basilico:
Trump and his distinguished fellow indictees will have to rely on bodies like voterga, 2000mules.
Just total Dem corruption.
And we all know how reliable that is don't we. But of course before Biden wiped the evidence of dump's corruption he bought Reuters first with Hunter Biden's laptop money.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-usa-mules-idUSL2N2XJ0OQ

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:27pm On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
At the moment, there are about 5,000 RUSSIAN funded volunteer fighters in AFRICA: They are mainly active in Mali, Libya, Sudan, Central African Republic, Mozambique and the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Just about all the country's Russia is in are at war or conflict approaching.

WonderMan76:
Reportedly, the morale of Niger’s military personnel is at an all time high right now, given that nearly the entire population of Niger are in support of the military and thousands have reportedly signed up to fight with the Russian volunteer force, Wagner PMC, in defense of their homeland.
There's only so long they can let France be their central bank, and Nigeria would coup too if our central bank was on Threadneedle Street.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WonderMan76: 7:31pm On Aug 20, 2023
LordReed:
LoLz! New? Remember Benghazi and her emails? Don't act like you have amnesia.
Hahaha. You think the Trump administration didn’t have sufficient evidence to prosecute Hillary for the email scandal specifically? Your side were the ones stupid enough to break the glass ceiling. You guys ALWAY do this. Set a precedent then start complains when republicans take advantage of it. (Remember the filibuster for SC nominees)

Bro I can tell you this for free. Trump may be the first but he will NOT be the last president prosecuted by his successor. Bet your house on it. The precedent has been set and It’s going to be a race to the bottom from here.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:36pm On Aug 20, 2023
basilico:
The Georgia guys were republicans who wanted Trump to lose. A lot if Republicans sought Trump endorsements, then turned against him.
You saying his own gops did not just not vote for him they rigged the election so Democrats won?

I wonder what they saw that you never will.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WonderMan76: 7:38pm On Aug 20, 2023
budaatum:
There's only so long they can let France be their central bank, and Nigeria would coup too if our central bank was on Threadneedle Street.
Agreed. So the coup has a legitimate reason. We must rid Africa completely of western influence. We are the richest and most continent on earth. We don’t need these Oyinbos telling us what to do and how to govern ourselves.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 7:50pm On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
Hahaha. You think the Trump administration didn’t have sufficient evidence to prosecute Hillary for the email scandal specifically? Your side were the ones stupid enough to break the glass ceiling. You guys ALWAY do this. Set a precedent then start complains when republicans take advantage of it. (Remember the filibuster for SC nominees)

Bro I can tell you this for free. Trump may be the first but he will NOT be the last president prosecuted by his successor. Bet your house on it. The precedent has been set and It’s going to be a race to the bottom from here.
Oh please they had nothing. The Hilary hate did not start with Benghazi and the emails thing, if they had something substantial to nail her with they would gone whole hog. What glass ceiling? The glass ceiling of criminal acts as a president? Remind me which party Nixon was again. Bwahahahahahaha!

Dude, Obama is still walking around free despite all the hate. I have no doubt that if your favorite noisemakers have nothing on Dark Brandon, he'll also be walking around a free man when his tenure is done.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:50pm On Aug 20, 2023
WonderMan76:
Agreed. So the coup has a legitimate reason. We must rid Africa completely of western influence. We are the richest and most continent on earth. We don’t need these Oyinbos telling us what to do and how to govern ourselves.
You can not rid Africa of Western influence. Their greatest influence over us is the language we communicate with which we are never going to stop using.

Besides, France's influence over its colonies is not the same influence Britain has over us. There is no Britianafrique.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7afrique

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WonderMan76:
LordReed:
Oh please they had nothing. The Hilary hate did not start with Benghazi and the emails thing, if they had something substantial to nail her with they would gone whole hog. What glass ceiling? The glass ceiling of criminal acts as a president? Remind me which party Nixon was again. Bwahahahahahaha!

Dude, Obama is still walking around free despite all the hate. I have no doubt that if your favorite noisemakers have nothing on Dark Brandon, he'll also be walking around a free man when his tenure is done.
I don’t know what planet you are living on but in the real world Jim comey literally held a 30 minute press conference listing all the laws she violated on the email matter only to end it by saying “but no reasonable prosecutor will charge” or something like that. Basically implying that “yeah she broke some laws but c’mon mehn”

Sometimes all you need is an aggressive, determined or politically motivated prosecutor and ANYBODY can be indicted. Ever heard the saying about a ham sandwich ? I don’t think you have.

Let’s not forget that Trump has not yet been CONVICTED of anything. Indictments are a dime a dozen. They are mere formal accusations. Proving it in court and getting a conviction is a different matter.



Your god Jack Smith’s record should tell you all you need to know about this. He is very indictment-happy but loses quite frequently where it matters.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:14pm On Aug 20, 2023
LordReed:
Bring the evidence he did something wrong and charge him to court, same as Trump.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
budaatum:
And we all know how reliable that is don't we. But of course before Biden wiped the evidence of dump's corruption he bought Reuters first with Hunter Biden's laptop money.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-usa-mules-idUSL2N2XJ0OQ
Did you watch the film?
I did in full
If you had, you would not post such narrative shaping fact checkers.

rotten tomatoes review.
People also ask
What does 100% Rotten Tomatoes mean?
The percentage is based on the film's reviews aggregated by the website and assessed as positive or negative, and when all aggregated reviews are positive, the film has a 100% rating.



Compare 2000mules rating on rottentomatoes to Obama's..The better one scored 100%

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:59pm On Aug 20, 2023
Maui Fires.
This writer has tried to explain why the carnage is too high. Article seems unbiased to me, though it only highlights the negative could have been done better actions that happened.
Very very sad. Media blaming climate change.
Read with an open mind.

Briefly
1.Death toll much higher than reported

2.There was no alarm ( because people would've moved to higher grounds where the fire was.
3. Emergency boss has no experience besides political science
4. Firefighters were denied water
5. Power was not shut off asap.
Electric poles toppled on dry grass worsening the blaze.
6.Escape routes were blocked

Read more for yourself
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/08/green_policies_and_government_incompetence_led_to_the_tragedy_of_the_maui_fire.html

Some corroboration from.this link too.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2023/08/18/hawaii-news/maui-emergency-chief-herman-andaya-resigns/


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