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Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by leokid866: 7:37pm On Aug 26, 2023
lexy2014:


You know. You have high IQ. You can read and comprehend and you claimed that china holds elections. So pls help answer the following....

1. Which electrons do they hold in China?

2. Are you the one that holds elections for them China?

3. What is a dictatorship?

4. What are the "tenets of a sovereign state"?

5. Since you say they do elections in China, how many political parties are in China?
Oga I don surrender to you na.....na you go teach me.....teach me please.....O wise one
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by leokid866: 7:38pm On Aug 26, 2023
lexy2014:


Nigga is still sounding confused and boasting in his ignorance.

Pls what is a dictatorship?

What is the difference between a dictatorship and a sovereign state?

Is a dictatorship a state?

How does all you said preclude Niger from being a sovereign state?

cc: efeski
Oga you tell me.....you know it all.....
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by zumbigbo(m): 7:39pm On Aug 26, 2023
Oluwaseunomo:

Only on a faceless forum a nitwit will open his mouth to talk rubbish. If the niger idiots are ready to meet there creator they should try rubbish.

Full of talk, go to Niamey and speak with them. Dem go place your head on top of a pike.
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by Kukutente23: 7:44pm On Aug 26, 2023
leokid866:
Oga you're right a Monarchy is the same as a military government......I guess the UK and The Vatican city too are a Military government......I've told you return your parents money.....it has not been useful in your life.....find something new to do with your life and stop wasting their resources....and don't quote me again till you've raised your I.Q.......
Hahaha 😆 😂
This ignoramus is comparing a ceremonial head with little or no state powers in the UK with the Saudi King who holds all the power.
For your info, the Vatican is not a democracy as well. It's an ecclesiastical monarchy headed by the Pope.
I think you should let go of this one. It's obviously beyond your iq

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Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by Kukutente23: 7:46pm On Aug 26, 2023
erico2k2:

A man the US wants was hiding there.A police woman was shot dead from inside an Embassey.
Yeah and covered by diplomatic immunity not sovereignty as you put it.
Don't forget the ambassador who is the Head of the embassy stays at the pleasure of the head of state. He can also be summoned any time and must respond to such summons. Does that sound like sovereignty to you?
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by Kukutente23: 7:47pm On Aug 26, 2023
erico2k2:

this screenshot??this is google.so should be easy and less complex
No. I meant this.

This is the Vienna convention which covers sovereignty as well as diplomatic protocols

Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by OGHENAOGIE(m): 7:56pm On Aug 26, 2023
Kukutente23:

Well, that definition is wrong.
It's your own subjective definition.
A sovereign state is one with territorial boundaries and a govt made up of people from that state. It has nothing to do with laws and constitutionalism.
Saudi is a sovereign state yet ruled by monarchy.
Iran and Afghanistan are sovereigns yet ruled by Islamic leaders who even have no set of rules except that given by the Islamic ruling organ just as you have in a military system of govt.
Are you thus saying Iran, Afghanistan and Saudi are not sovereign?
some of una would push Niger soldiers to d cliff... The countries u listed have laws... Saudi Arabia have parliament... Iran have president that's elected while there's an Ayatollah... Soldiers wake up all of a sudden seize power in a country others have interest too.. do u know how much Nigeria has spent as aid to Niger.... Even France... Yet they have refused sensible negotiations saying they ll hand over in three years...
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by OGHENAOGIE(m): 7:59pm On Aug 26, 2023
Banter1:
Seeing all this comments coming from yeye Nigerians youth supporting France breaks my heart. I mean where is you people's brain? The west is leaching on Africa stealing our natural resources and all you could do is support them? Mental slavery
yet the soldiers are now leaning to Russia so what's the difference.. the chaos and suffering on innocent citizens is it ok...?
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by leokid866: 8:06pm On Aug 26, 2023
Kukutente23:

Hahaha 😆 😂
This ignoramus is comparing a ceremonial head with little or no state powers in the UK with the Saudi King who holds all the power.
For your info, the Vatican is not a democracy as well. It's an ecclesiastical monarchy headed by the Pope.
I think you should let go of this one. It's obviously beyond your iq
is the Vatican a Monarchy yes or no? I never said the Vatican was a democracy, at no point did i say Saudi Arabia was a democracy, what i said is they are and act as a sovereign state their people and the rest of the world recognize and are glad to associate with....... Your whole point was that Saudi Arabia with their one man at the top was no different from Military Dictatorship, so my question to you now is the Vatican that is in the same position are you saying the pope and UK Crown(ceremonial as it may be) is a Military dictatorship as well? Cause that is the entire nail you've been hitting your head on since wey you no wan give yourself brain......if you and your people cannot form a government that I can wake up anytime of the day to trust you I do not consider you a sovereign state.......you as a military dictatorship have control over your land but you can't force the rest of the world to accept you.....if I enter into a contract with you today what happens when there's a counter coup or when your people decide to just behead you like Gaddafi? Do as you wish in your land but you can't force others to recognize your Sovereignty till you prove you can be trusted as a government and no Dictatorship has ever made it......
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by OGHENAOGIE(m): 8:07pm On Aug 26, 2023
CSTRR:

Go to Niger republic or even Northern Nigeria and see the suffering.

And then come back and talk about ''emotional''.
so they should allow soldiers hold on to power abi...if no military intervention then sanctions is welcome Niger republic ll be affected More... Let's see how their bragado ll take them
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by nairanaira12: 8:07pm On Aug 26, 2023
leokid866:
is a military rule equal to government rule? Is Nigers currently independent in its workings cause if so why did the Junta sack all government heads and dissolve all government parastatals. as a sovereign state who else in the world is currently trading with them except their fellow military led countries? But it's fine your definition of a sovereign state is land borders, people and someone at the top doing whatever they like.....that's where your intelligence stops......

When Nigeria was under military rule, was Nigeria a sovereign country then?

What kind of stupid explanation are you even giving?

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Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by nairanaira12: 8:08pm On Aug 26, 2023
lexy2014:


My brother, those are the questions I have been asking Mr leokid866. He was just so confident in his ignorance. See another one


That's the baffling thing about these AOC supporters. They are fond of defending emptiness with confidence
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by Kukutente23: 8:10pm On Aug 26, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
some of una would push Niger soldiers to d cliff... The countries u listed have laws... Saudi Arabia have parliament... Iran have president that's elected while there's an Ayatollah... Soldiers wake up all of a sudden seize power in a country others have interest too.. do u know how much Nigeria has spent as aid to Niger.... Even France... Yet they have refused sensible negotiations saying they ll hand over in three years...
And Niger does not have laws abi
And where are you getting this from that Saudi has a parliament? Na wa o. Something you can at least confirm with Google.
Who elected the Ayatollah? He came in via revolution and has remained since. He's the supreme authority in Iran bar none. How's that different from a coup?
The point I'm making is that just cause a coup happen does not mean a country has lost its sovereignty. If it were not so, even Nigeria will not be ruled for so long. What makes the case of Niger so difficult is the Western interests in the country

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Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by Litmus: 8:10pm On Aug 26, 2023
Hopefully if ECOWAS does not intervein to restore Niger's democracy (however questionable that democracy was) and given the coups in Mali and Burkina Faso, West Africa states should dissolve ECOWAS due to its evident ineptness. Let every nation manage its affairs as it sees fit. African Regional or and Continental blocks, executively &symbolically , are obviously untenable. Nigeria could do with the funds.
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by OGHENAOGIE(m): 8:11pm On Aug 26, 2023
Nyne:



They are after our oil honestly. That’s why they don’t want to leave Niger. Cos there’s a pipeline that they are building but not functioning yet that passes through Niger. The pipeline starts from SE Nigeria, passes through Niger, Algeria down to Europe . Imagine. It’s God that’s fighting for Nigerians if we don’t know. I think it was Buhari that signed that bill for the pipeline. Useless leaders that we have.

They cannot lay pipelines for gas in Nigeria so that Nigerians will not have to carry cylinders up and down again, but they can lay pipelines from Nigeria to Europe.

Let’s see what Tinubu wants to do sha.

Niger military have threatened Nigeria that if ECOWAS should come with their useless troops that they are going to target Abuja and dethrone Tinubu cos they know who won the election.

typing nonsense cos u hate tinubu... Who be Niger to stand against nigeria... Election loss really pain una ooo that u just hate ur country

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Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by OGHENAOGIE(m): 8:13pm On Aug 26, 2023
leokid866:
China is a communist state, sure it's far from democracy but they at least they hold up part of its tenets......legally you can't call them a dictatorship.....they still run elections and act as a democracy.....it's what separates them from North korea....
no elections it's basically selection.. within the communist party
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by Litmus: 8:14pm On Aug 26, 2023
ECOWAS is evidently pointless. Lets scrap it and save our money.

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Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by OGHENAOGIE(m): 8:15pm On Aug 26, 2023
Kukutente23:

And Niger does not have laws abi
And where are you getting this from that Saudi has a parliament? Na wa o. Something you can at least confirm with Google.
Who elected the Ayatollah? He came in via revolution and has remained since. He's the supreme authority in Iran bar none. How's that different from a coup?
The point I'm making is that just cause a coup happen does not mean a country has lost its sovereignty. If it were not so, even Nigeria will not be ruled for so long. What makes the case of Niger so difficult is the Western interests in the country
which law empower the soldiers to take over an elected president quote them??
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by leokid866: 8:15pm On Aug 26, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
no elections it's basically selection.. within the communist party
yes it's selection but they still hold elections and vote......candidates indicate their interest get screened.....bla....bla.....bla.....point is they have a formal government you can rely on to a certain extent
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by Kukutente23: 8:17pm On Aug 26, 2023
leokid866:
is the Vatican a Monarchy yes or no? I never said the Vatican was a democracy, at no point did i say Saudi Arabia was a democracy, what i said is they are and act as a sovereign state their people and the rest of the world recognize and are glad to associate with....... Your whole point was that Saudi Arabia with their one man at the top ruled as Military Dictatorship, so my question to you now is the Vatican that is in the same position are you saying the pope and UK Crown(ceremonial as it may be) is a Military dictatorship as well? Cause that is the entire nail you've been hitting your head on since wey you no wan give yourself brain.....
Stop twisting words. I never said Saudi is a military dictatorship but it's a dictatorship nonetheless, same with China, Iran etc.

Your problem is thinking that a country must embrace democracy else it loses its sovereignty which I'm pointing out is totally false.

Vatican can't be a dictatorship because it is an ecclesiastical system. I hope you know what that means.

UK also can't be because the monarchy holds almost no power. It's simply ceremonial.

Again, read this slowly: There are countries that have absolute monarchies like Swaziland, Saudi, UAE etc and they are dictatorship even if not military. There are also countries with less obvious forms of dictatorship but still dictatorship nonetheless like China and Iran.

Hope I've broken it down to your iq level now. If not, well.... nothing more here. I can't go beyond this level. I'm not a kindergarten teacher.

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Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by OGHENAOGIE(m): 8:17pm On Aug 26, 2023
leokid866:
yes it's selection but they still hold elections and vote......candidates indicate their interest get screened.....bla....bla.....bla.....point is they have a formal government you can rely on to a certain extent
yes China is basically a selective democracy where govt run the country via State capitalism
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by Kukutente23: 8:25pm On Aug 26, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
which law empower the soldiers to take over an elected president quote them??
You're also back to laws. Constitutional laws are creation of humans not divine or infallible.
If we want to go down that route, we'll ask ourselves which laws empower British to hand over to democratic govt when they were leaving instead of handing over to the monarchies they met when they first arrived in the shores of Africa.
Picking laws as you do is subjective. The soldiers might be morally wrong but it does not confer rights on another country to invade them under the guise of restoring democracy.
So while we're telling them to return the country back to civil rule, we must recognise they hold the lever of power over the sovereign entity called Niger as at this moment. Any other thing is simply political interference which is simply another form of colonialism.

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Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by leokid866: 8:25pm On Aug 26, 2023
nairanaira12:


When Nigeria was under military rule, was Nigeria a sovereign country then?

What kind of stupid explanation are you even giving?
Oga you can have control of your nation as military dictatorship but you cannot force other nations to recognize your sovereignty.....I'm beginning to understand that what you people consider as sovereignty is just border lines and the people but it extends far beyond that.....what was Nigerias international standing under Abacha?
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by ogascomax: 8:25pm On Aug 26, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
France is right!

Niger coupists have lule pii . The disgrace of these coupists will teach the other impostors that they will not be tolerated. If you want power, remove uniform and go form or join a political party and canvass for votes to win an election and legitimacy in a democracy.

The moment those who jinxed Mr Obi, Mr Nnamdi Kanu, GEJ, Alhaji Atiku, Trump, Wagner etc with their bad luck of support started supporting the coupists, I knew they have been jinxed. Nobody or no organisation this unpatriotic bitter people support ever succeeds. Check my signature for free stuffs!


Your scheme your way out by not adding Putin because you know that you have failed in your way of always criticizing the right thing and supporting evil, thinking that you are supporting good.
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by nairanaira12: 8:29pm On Aug 26, 2023
leokid866:
Oga you can have control of your nation as military dictatorship but you cannot force other nations to recognize your sovereignty.....I'm beginning to understand that what you people consider as sovereignty is just border lines and the people but it extends far beyond that.....what was Nigerias international standing under Abacha?
A sovereign country is a nation whose government has a supreme authority over its population and territory.

Does Niger government have Supreme authority over its population and territory?

So, why do you keep on arguing blindly, like a headstrong deceptive soul?

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Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by leokid866: 8:30pm On Aug 26, 2023
Kukutente23:

Stop twisting words. I never said Saudi is a military dictatorship but it's a dictatorship nonetheless, same with China, Iran etc.

Your problem is thinking that a country must embrace democracy else it loses its sovereignty which I'm pointing out is totally false.

Vatican can't be a dictatorship because it is an ecclesiastical system. I hope you know what that means.

UK also can't be because the monarchy holds almost no power. It's simply ceremonial.

Again, read this slowly: There are countries that have absolute monarchies like Swaziland, Saudi, UAE etc and they are dictatorship even if not military. There are also countries with less obvious forms of dictatorship but still dictatorship nonetheless like China and Iran.

Hope I've broken it down to your iq level now. If not, well.... nothing more here. I can't go beyond this level. I'm not a kindergarten teacher.
Just one man decided what the law is in 1960 and in 1992. So how does that differ from what obtains in a military?
Bumbling ignoramus.....this is one of your quotes.....recognize it?......just hold on O.....let me break you down completely
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by leokid866: 8:32pm On Aug 26, 2023
nairanaira12:

A sovereign country is a nation whose government has a supreme authority over its population and territory.

Does Niger government have Supreme authority over its population and territory?

So, why do you keep on arguing blindly, like a headstrong deceptive soul?
yes you have sovereignty over your nation that's one thing, getting me as an outsider to recognize your sovereignty is another......hope you understand?
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by leokid866: 8:33pm On Aug 26, 2023
Kukutente23:

Stop twisting words. I never said Saudi is a military dictatorship but it's a dictatorship nonetheless, same with China, Iran etc.

Your problem is thinking that a country must embrace democracy else it loses its sovereignty which I'm pointing out is totally false.

Vatican can't be a dictatorship because it is an ecclesiastical system. I hope you know what that means.

UK also can't be because the monarchy holds almost no power. It's simply ceremonial.

Again, read this slowly: There are countries that have absolute monarchies like Swaziland, Saudi, UAE etc and they are dictatorship even if not military. There are also countries with less obvious forms of dictatorship but still dictatorship nonetheless like China and Iran.

Hope I've broken it down to your iq level now. If not, well.... nothing more here. I can't go beyond this level. I'm not a kindergarten teacher.
No! It was the same king in 1992. So how is it different from a military law?......this is also you......
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by Kukutente23: 8:33pm On Aug 26, 2023
leokid866:
Just one man decided what the law is in 1960 and in 1992. So how does that differ from what obtains in a military?
Bumbling ignoramus.....this is one of your quotes.....recognize it?......just hold on O.....let me break you down completely
Go back to English school.
So if I say bread is sweet and made from flour and it is no different from how doughnut is made, it means I've said doughnut is also bread?
Oga shift! You're no longer making sense
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by lexy2014: 8:34pm On Aug 26, 2023
leokid866:
Oga I don surrender to you na.....na you go teach me.....teach me please.....O wise one
More confusion
leokid866:
like I said na me f#ck I no know say you no fit read to understand.....no worry.....carry on as you were.....

leokid866:

The 2023 Chinese presidential election was held on 10 March 2023, at the 14th National People's Congress.

1. Which elections do they hold in China?

2. Are you the one that holds elections for them China?

3. What is a dictatorship?

4. What are the "tenets of a sovereign state"?

5. Since you say they do elections in China, how many political parties are in China?
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by Kukutente23: 8:34pm On Aug 26, 2023
leokid866:
No! It was the same king in 1992. So how is it different from a military law?......this is also you......
English again.... undecided
Re: France Defiant, Insists Niger Military Junta Cannot Expel Its Ambassador by Kukutente23: 8:36pm On Aug 26, 2023
lexy2014:

More confusion




1. Which elections do they hold in China?

2. Are you the one that holds elections for them China?

3. What is a dictatorship?

4. What are the "tenets of a sovereign state"?

5. Since you say they do elections in China, how many political parties are in China?
I think we should all agree the dude is a kid, even in understanding.
Imagine claiming election in one party state grin grin

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