JetApartment:
Our kids weren't told he did all the above...so sad.

Democracy is a curse to Africa...Obasanjo, Jonathan and Buhari combined couldn't achieve half of what Ibrahim Babangida achieved in just 8 years.

He is the best leader Nigeria ever had.

Military rule by decree so it's easy for them to achieve a lot of they're committed.
But the worst civilian regime is still better than the best military regime

Its funny you didn't include the cost and debt associated with the "achievements".
Buhari's "achievements" in Daura alone dwarfs everything you listed but smart people
know the difference between future destroyers and future builders.

If IBB was so great, he would not face so many crisis and kickstart mass migration of
Nigerians and Yahoo boys.
You should ask your parent before posting nonsense next time.

This is great.

Ozommadu:


Ewu

Go check Amawbia Road to ekwulobia through Nise,agulu and nanka.

Nibo Road to umuawulu to ogbu...where do you even know in Anambra state??

Ebola only achievement in former federal capital for 8yrs is Dualisation of two roads🤡 🤡 ?

U are arguing with hydraulic eater in d name of soup, na u get time. How can u argue with somebody that has never stepped his foot outside his territory, somebody from one village in ogbomosho will tell u everything about ur hometown, bcs they always feel that live only revolves around west

OP you are ascribing to him projects his predecessors and his successors started and completed.

Not saying he built nothing.

For example Abacha built the National Hospital Abuja and completed and commissioned the National Assembly although in fairness IBB likely started the construction as it was during his tenure that the Federal capital was changed from Lagos to Abuja.

Third Mainland bridge was opened by President Shagari in 1980 , IBB completed an annex to the bridge.

Some were on-going projects that he met and may or may not have made any input to their completion over during his 8 years tenure.

Ttalk:
OP, what you listed are regular project that you can find in any Nigeria budget be it during military or civilian regime.

When you look critically those elephant projects are only drain on Nigeria economy with exception his DIFFRI and Better Life initiative

shut up, how many Elephant 🐘 project has civilian government execute? Lagos Ibadan express way has not been completed since 1999, when you see good thing, appreciate it

Naptu2, please you are the resident historian with very educative threads....

This list is often bandied about as all IBB achievements. Is the list entirely factual?

Thank you Sir in advance of more enlightenment.

Our present system of govt has favour a few who would have been nobody if we were still using military rule. A huge number of thieves wearing agbada. In military very few persons call the shot and can only steal but a fraction that having 500 thieves calling the shot.

onumadu:


You hateful tribalist chameleonic nwa ofe, everybody who knows me knows I prefer military rule to your thieving and roguish pretense at democracy.
No apologies.
Your thieving brother stole an entire elections, corrupted the whole process, dashed the hopes of all patriotic Nigerians - pretending that he won. He didn't.
Go suck a bitter lemon.

haha,bitter lemon is gud with lemmonade made.How about soakaway?I beleive if Tinubu achieved all these,people holding unto his scrotum would have asked people to leave Tinubu Nigeria.

debetmx:
He also achieved June 12, 1993.

Ebola acheived stolen drugs,stole people's mandate.But come to think of it,how do we tell our children our once President sniff and also sold drugs?

Ttalk:
OP, what you listed are regular project that you can find in any Nigeria budget be it during military or civilian regime.

When you look critically those elephant projects are only drain on Nigeria economy with exception his DIFFRI and Better Life initiative

Leave mumu people

He did not create Edo State, Edo State was there before he only changed the name from Bendel to Edo State and created Delta state.

IBB IS A NIGERIANIST.

HIS SINGULAR ACT OF DRIVING DIMKA OUT OF THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE MAKES HIM A HERO FOREVER.

Parachoko:
Please stop overhyping IBB and The Construction of 3rd Mainland Bridge was started by Gowon.

All what you listed there are nothing sef dey are just Paperweight Achievement.

Just like Buhari, IBB left Nigeria in a worst Situation than he met it.

You just proved how ignorant you are...you sure sey you go school so? I don't understand how someone can be so ignorant yet boastful.

JetApartment:
Our kids weren't told he did all the above...so sad.

Democracy is a curse to Africa...Obasanjo, Jonathan and Buhari combined couldn't achieve half of what Ibrahim Babangida achieved in just 8 years.

He is the best leader Nigeria ever had.

1, The funny thing about the above list of achievements is state creation.

The reason why no civillian ruler since 1999 has been able to create one single state is because the Constitution does not let them create states by fiat as it happened under Army rule. Otherwise, we would have had more states.

The Constitution now says you have to get 2/3 of naitonal assembly, 2/3 pof all state assemblies, and 2/3 of the vote of the people in the states where the new state is to be created from before you even get one state. See the wahala?


2.Yes, IBB built this and that....EVERY leader of Nigeria built this and that. For example, the first republic rulers expanded railways drastically. Second republic had governors like Mbakwe and Aku that were still lauded years after. Gowon set up and built up a lot of instuttions that still stand the time

Yeah, IBB built this and that. He

1.Also ran our economy into the ground by increasing its dependency on oil.

2.Jakpa which started under Buhari's 1980's regime got worse under IBB.

3.Corruption got worse

4.Missing Gulf oil windfall?

5. Economy got so bad that we had issues. Naira got weaker and weaker and weaker. From N2 to the dollar to over N21 at the end of his rule.

6. Need I mention how we got into more and more debt then?

7. Nepotisim was the order of the day

8. Let's not even get into the various religious and ethnic crisis under the man's rule. Check out what happened in March 1987 in Kaduna state.

9 . Also, how he violently repressed various student protests against his regime.

10. And also, do you know why we had to bring in SAP? Because we were low on oil.


Oga, you were not born under IBB's regime. I was alive then. I saw it. Don't come and tell me it was nice then, Same issues we have now, we had it then. Live.

Blitzking:
Our present system of govt has favour a few who would have been nobody if we were still using military rule. A huge number of thieves wearing agbada. In military very few persons call the shot and can only steal but a fraction that having 500 thieves calling the shot.

Oga, the same level of stealing happened under army rule...LIVE.

And some of the civillian actors seamlessly moved over to civillian rule and continued the show. Even many of the ex-army boys became politrickans and leaders under the new civllian rule (Buhari had at least 2 old army boys in his government).

Stealing happened live. Corruption happened live. Under Army rule. It was not just oga at the top that was doing the stealing self.

And the stealing was massive...see how we are still trying to find the money Abacha looted over time?

I don't like Ebola, or our civillian rulers...infact I agree with you on their corruption. Bery well. But to say that Army rule...only a few stole. ......is a compound lie.

JetApartment:
Our kids weren't told he did all the above...so sad.

Democracy is a curse to Africa...Obasanjo, Jonathan and Buhari combined couldn't achieve half of what Ibrahim Babangida achieved in just 8 years.

He is the best leader Nigeria ever had.

He did well. His problem was annulling the fairest election in our history, SAP that killed the naira and our economy(same nonsense IMF and World bank are having us doing till today), he increased fuel price first and was quoted to have said "a litre of fuel can't be cheaper than a bottle of coca cola" then.

And in trying to defend his administration as opposed to defending Nigeria as a whole, he "demilitarized" us and practically left the airforce moribund because he felt they were a threat because they attempted a coup against him and the air force planes were positioned to take the 3rd mainland bridge out and prevent him from escaping Lagos since it's a oneway in, oneway out.

But constructing the Abuja-kano-Maiduguri way in less than 11 months is unprecedented.

We should domesticate democracy with some military approach so it can work for us.

What nigeria needs is a benevolent dictator, not wicked and heartless politicians,who rob and loot the country Dry in the name of democracy.

Nursepepeye:
shut up, how many Elephant 🐘 project has civilian government execute? Lagos Ibadan express way has not been completed since 1999, when you see good thing, appreciate it

LOL...and the fact is, IBB ran a bad government. Yes, he built things. All our civillian rulers built things. Building things does not make good government. It is making the economy work well, so that more good things can be built and sustained, that makes good government

And to be fair, both army and civiilan have failed in this regard.

IBB rule that I saw with my nekkid eyes? LOL.

IBB rule wherre hospitals and universities and the railways went from bad to worse?

IBB rule where power supply worsened?

IBB RULE where Nigeria airways went from 20 airplanes to 4?

Jlow2:
What nigeria needs is a benevolent dictator, not wicked and heartless politicians,who rob and loot the country Dry in the name of democracy.

LOL, there is NO SUCH THING AS a benevolent dictator. All dictators are harsh rulers

And all of them the world over have been bad. The only good ones were people like Park of South Korea, who took Korea from third world to manufacturing exporter, Lee Kwam Yew, and even someone like Stalin (withcaveats).

Most dictators, especially the African ones, have been godawful.

IBB did not make our economy better. We were still bad when he left office.

ivolt:
Its funny you didn't include the cost and debt associated with the "achievements".
Buhari's "achievements" in Daura alone dwarfs everything you listed but smart people
know the difference between future destroyers and future builders.

If IBB was so great, he would not face so many crisis and kickstart mass migration of
Nigerians and Yahoo boys.
You should ask your parent before posting nonsense next time.

Buhari was just as bad as IBB anyway. Both in his first and second comming.

Building things does not equal good governance. That is something Nigerians don't get.

nairalanda1:


1, The funny thing about the above list of achievements is state creation.

The reason why no civillian ruler since 1999 has been able to create one single state is because the Constitution does not let them create states by fiat as it happened under Army rule. Otherwise, we would have had more states.

The Constitution now says you have to get 2/3 of naitonal assembly, 2/3 pof all state assemblies, and 2/3 of the vote of the people in the states where the new state is to be created from before you even get one state. See the wahala?


2.Yes, IBB built this and that....EVERY leader of Nigeria built this and that. For example, the first republic rulers expanded railways drastically. Second republic had governors like Mbakwe and Aku that were still lauded years after. Gowon set up and built up a lot of instuttions that still stand the time

Yeah, IBB built this and that. He

1.Also ran our economy into the ground by increasing its dependency on oil.

2.Jakpa which started under Buhari's 1980's regime got worse under IBB.

3.Corruption got worse

4.Missing Gulf oil windfall?

5. Economy got so bad that we had issues. Naira got weaker and weaker and weaker. From N2 to the dollar to over N21 at the end of his rule.

6. Need I mention how we got into more and more debt then?

7. Nepotisim was the order of the day

8. Let's not even get into the various religious and ethnic crisis under the man's rule. Check out what happened in March 1987 in Kaduna state.

9 . Also, how he violently repressed various student protests against his regime.

10. And also, do you know why we had to bring in SAP? Because we were low on oil.


Oga, you were not born under IBB's regime. I was alive then. I saw it. Don't come and tell me it was nice then, Same issues we have now, we had it then. Live.

I am not sayings he is a perfect leader but the best leader, his 8 years rule is far better than the 24 year democracy we have now, the evidence is for all to see, Nigeria stopped progressing after he left office, as a matter of fact Nigeria started retrogressing.

Finally, don't just assume everyone is a kid on this forum, I might be older than you...I was born in the late 70's and experienced both the military rule and democracy...I am talking from experience, we had no social media back then to push propaganda and fake news around...and in the 2000s we paid to learn how to browse the internet that was a little faster than a snail and paid to open an email address see how time flies

orisa37:
IBB IS A NIGERIANIST.

HIS SINGULAR ACT OF DRIVING DIMKA OUT OF THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE MAKES HIM A HERO FOREVER.

Dimka that almost overthrew him?

The military usually make good
progress because the looting and cost
of governance is less.

All politicians do is to come and share
money💰 to themselves.

For more on IBB

Ibrahim Babangida: The untold story of an evil genius

.

JetApartment:


I am not sayings he is a perfect leader but the best leader, his 8 years rule is far better than the 24 year democracy we have now, the evidence is for all to see, Nigeria stopped progressing after he left office, as a matter of fact Nigeria started retrogressing.

Finally, don't just assume everyone is a kid on this forum, I might be older than you...I was born in the late 70's and experienced both the military rule and democracy...I am talking from experience, we had no social media back then to push propaganda and fake news around...and in the 2000s we paid to learn how to browse the internet that was a little faster than a snail and paid to open an email address see how time flies

I am also talking from experience, and the IBB regime was godawful. And repressive.

It is just that the Internet age in Nigeria took off under civillan rule. Otherwsie, you think army rule would have let this site thrive?

But the thing about IBB was that he was not a good leader. He ran a bad economy, and set up all those nice stuff we hear of...without any thought as to how it would be paid for, and thus our debt rose from 1.8 bn in 1980 to 33 billion by the end of his rule. And we had a massive deficit.

Good leadership is not about building stuff, it is about providing the basis for the building and maintenance of the stuff to be sustained. As such most of our leaders, IBB inclusive, have not been good enough (Ironsi and Muritala were not in power long enough, as was Shonekan). Did IBB make our economy better? No. Did IBB diversify our economy? Under the first republic...which was a corrupt mess, and awful...our economy was ten times more diversified.

I saw how things were bad under IBB. And it was awful. And for heaven's sake, maybe you enjoyed, but most of us back then did not.

nairalanda1:


I am also talking from experience, and the IBB regime was godawful. And repressive.

It is just that the Internet age in Nigeria took off under civillan rule. Otherwsie, you think army rule would have let this site thrive?

But the thing about IBB was that he was not a good leader. He ran a bad economy, and set up all those nice stuff we hear of...without any thought as to how it would be paid for, and thus our debt rose from 1.8 bn in 1980 to 33 billion by the end of his rule. And we had a massive deficit.

Good leadership is not about building stuff, it is about providing the basis for the building and maintenance of the stuff to be sustained. As such most of our leaders, IBB inclusive, have not been good enough (Ironsi and Muritala were not in power long enough, as was Shonekan). Did IBB make our economy better? No. Did IBB diversify our economy? Under the first republic...which was a corrupt mess, and awful...our economy was ten times more diversified.

I saw how things were bad under IBB. And it was awful. And for heaven's sake, maybe you enjoyed, but most of us back then did not.

Just look at your assertion in the bolded, if the military allowed you to listen, read and watch the news on TV why would they stop you from using the internet?

The third mainland bridge he completed and other infrastructures he built are still well maintained decades after he left office, so you have zero point.

You obviously hate IBB for no just reason, name one Nigerian leader that has achieved that much, when you talk of national growth and development you must talk about infrastructure and IBB delivered perfectly in this regard which is more than enough...all the infrastructure IBB built are still very useful to Nigeria's development decades after.

The world knows present day Nigeria is hell on earth compared to the days of IBB, the stats are there, the reality is clear for all to see...we weren't the poverty capital of the world back then neither did we borrow trillions at the detriment of our kids with nothing to show for it...corruption wasn't institutionalize, it is abnormal for you to say today's Nigeria is better.

Please quote me with comparison and not sentiments...you are even typing like one of IBB's rivals.

VinnyBaba:


This Ijaw man supporting Tinubu. 😏

How about our Brother Jonathan?

Did he Do well?😕

u think say everybody go b like u, u expect your half brother to not support tinubu


shameeeeee

JetApartment:


Just look at your assertion in the bolded, if the military allowed you to listen, read and watch the news on TV why would they stop you from using the internet?

The third mainland bridge he completed and other infrastructures he built are still well maintained decades after he left office, so you have zero point.

You obviously hate IBB for no just reason, name one Nigerian leader that has achieved that much, when you talk of national growth and development you must talk about infrastructure and IBB delivered perfectly in this regard which is more than enough...all the infrastructure IBB built are still very useful to Nigeria's development decades after.

The world knows present day Nigeria is hell on earth compared to the days of IBB, the stats are there, the reality is clear for all to see...we weren't the poverty capital of the world back then neither did we borrow trillions at the detriment of our kids with nothing to show for it...corruption wasn't institutionalize, it is abnormal for you to say today's Nigeria is better.

Please quote me with comparison and not sentiments...you are even typing like one of IBB's rivals.

I have a bad opinion of most past Nigerian leaders. IBB is no exception.

I'll tell you again, IBB did not diversify our economy, left us with a heavy debt, built all those stuff with tomorrow's money(something similar happened in Argentina) and also was repressive to boot.

It is not sentiment, it is fact. You don't have to like it.

I can also say the same thing about most Nigerian leaders. That's why I am not too happy with our current civillian rule by the way. But under IBB, it was not that good either.

Minjim:




Military rule by decree so it's easy for them to achieve a lot of they're committed.
But the worst civilian regime is still better than the best military regime

This assertion is very very wrong

onumadu:
Keep in mind that oil was about $20 -$30 per barrel throughout IBB's rule.
Only a brief period during the gulf war of 1990/91 did oil cross $40 per barrel.

But since civilian rule oil has stayed above $40 per barrel.
Now compare and contrast!

Remember, dollar suffers devaluation too

onumadu:
I can bet you that majority of Nairalanders (the under 30 year olds) don't know these facts.
That's why they yap about worst "democracy" being better than the best military rule.
If only they know!

Its not really about age, your likes are really getting it all wrong

Statement like the worst of democracy is better than best of military juxtaposes nothing Freedom/fundamental right.

Is just like saying you are happy to be a slave in a king's palace than to be free man of that territory,

The OP mention how much infrasturucture IBB built buh nowhere did he mention how IBB regime elevated the economy or people's life.