Nigeria's development started during the military era. In fact, as a nation we achieved and became the best among committee of sovereign states.
But now, under democracy. We are stagnant, and have started deteriorating.

Some people will say "the worse civilian government is better than the military rule" Na lie! That's why coup d'etat is fast returning to Africa. Politicians are scam and pen rubbers.

nairalanda1:


LOL, there is NO SUCH THING AS a benevolent dictator. All dictators are harsh rulers

And all of them the world over have been bad. The only good ones were people like Park of South Korea, who took Korea from third world to manufacturing exporter, Lee Kwam Yew, and even someone like Stalin (withcaveats).

Most dictators, especially the African ones, have been godawful.

IBB did not make our economy better. We were still bad when he left office.

ibb delivered more projects to Nigerians from 85-93 than 99-present, ghaddafi late and kagame of Rwanda re benevolent dictators, democracy in Nigeria is just freedom to looting of public funds and corruption in high places to enrich the elites and keep the masses in perpetual and multinational poverty, there has been more political killings of Nigerians in democracy than dictatorship, there has been more of insecurity in democracy than dictatorship, who has made the economy better in democracy? During Abacha the dollar never moved an inch, we only had sanctions from western world that was biting us, those whom accused Abacha on abuse of human rights should hide there faces in shame eg fmr efcc boss has been in detention for 60days without charge, a former governor was caught on camera the video was on pubic notice stuffing thousands of dollars in his Babariga he collected as kick back bribe from a contractor,but he got court order to stop any probe against him and it stood, it cannot happen anywhere except Nigeria, which has become one of the most unfortunate country in the world.

nairalanda1:




Oga, the same level of stealing happened under army rule...LIVE.

And some of the civillian actors seamlessly moved over to civillian rule and continued the show. Even many of the ex-army boys became politrickans and leaders under the new civllian rule (Buhari had at least 2 old army boys in his government).

Stealing happened live. Corruption happened live. Under Army rule. It was not just oga at the top that was doing the stealing self.

And the stealing was massive...see how we are still trying to find the money Abacha looted over time?

I don't like Ebola, or our civillian rulers...infact I agree with you on their corruption. Bery well. But to say that Army rule...only a few stole. ......is a compound lie.

Very true.

He tried but he has some flaws tooo
Especially stng nd failing the price controls shit

JetApartment:


I am not sayings he is a perfect leader but the best leader, his 8 years rule is far better than the 24 year democracy we have now, the evidence is for all to see, Nigeria stopped progressing after he left office, as a matter of fact Nigeria started retrogressing.

Finally, don't just assume everyone is a kid on this forum, I might be older than you...I was born in the late 70's and experienced both the military rule and democracy...I am talking from experience, we had no social media back then to push propaganda and fake news around...and in the 2000s we paid to learn how to browse the internet that was a little faster than a snail and paid to open an email address see how time flies

I can relate with your points. I was born in the early eighties,and I can tell that milatry govt ran a more stable economy than what these roughish politicians are doing now, in fact Nigerian society as whole had modicum of sanity then. because of instant prosecution of criminal activities by the military, every body was afraid to step out of line. Then the community had power to deal with anybody that posed a threat to them. Armed robbers excited thru public firing squad in their community to set a moral example to their people. I can recall "boys oyee" in onitsha and abs then, A community drive to flush out criminals by destrying hotels that harbour them. But now just catch an armed robber, then police will even arrest you self and release the thief. Men, Nigeria is retrogressing at fast rate, thanks to the so called democracy.

95% of our present day Billionaires and business monguls are products of Babangida era.... Go and verify

Ì lived during those times at it was nothing to remember.

Nigeria under him severally was rated no.1 for corruption globally.

Inflation under him for some years were over 50%. The Naira faced constant depreciation due to the government dependence on ways and means (printing money) to finance spending.

Under him, the strict town planning that existed in Lagos state before him was bastardized and that was when Victoria Island moved from being a residential neighborhood to commercial.

The present crop of extremely corrupt politician the country has today were basically molded by IBB.

He could have achieved 10 times more.

Nothing to congratulate him for.

Jlow2:
ibb delivered more projects to Nigerians from 85-93 than 99-present, ghaddafi late and kagame of Rwanda re benevolent dictators, democracy in Nigeria is just freedom to looting of public funds and corruption in high places to enrich the elites and keep the masses in perpetual and multinational poverty, there has been more political killings of Nigerians in democracy than dictatorship, there has been more of insecurity in democracy than dictatorship, who has made the economy better in democracy? During Abacha the dollar never moved an inch, we only had sanctions from western world that was biting us, those whom accused Abacha on abuse of human rights should hide there faces in shame eg fmr efcc boss has been in detention for 60days without charge, a former governor was caught on camera the video was on pubic notice stuffing thousands of dollars in his Babariga he collected as kick back bribe from a contractor,but he got court order to stop any probe against him and it stood, it cannot happen anywhere except Nigeria, which has become one of the most unfortunate country in the world.

In Argentina, there was a leader who built a lot of stuff. A lot of facilites and a lot of things. People still hail him till today. His building spree also left a magnificent debt that they are still struggling with and have been since the eighties.

Whom ever siezed power by the barrel of the gun should never be honoured, no matter what the achieve in Office

Its the same as honouring a Bank Robber who who robbed a bank and was using it to help his community

nairalanda1:


In Argentina, there was a leader who built a lot of stuff. A lot of facilites and a lot of things. People still hail him till today. His building spree also left a magnificent debt that they are still struggling with and have been since the eighties.

and buhari that increased our debt from 7billion $ in 2015 to 28billion $ in 2023 what infrastructures or human capital development did he show for it?

Jlow2:
and buhari that increased our debt from 7billion $ in 2015 to 28billion $ in 2023 what infrastructures or human capital development did he show for it?

Oga, I also don't consider Buhari a good leader, plus I am not defending Buhari, never will...so try another line.

Plus IBB increased our debt too. And left us with liabilites.

You guys should stop defending past and present Nigerian leaders.

IBB na patriot with his own flaws.. but the man tried for Nigeria compared to all these democratic leaders stealing and looting like it's no man's business. Money you can't spend in heaven or hell or wherever you land in the afterlife, you're stealing with pen, awon pen robbers.

Parachoko:
Construction of Adeola-Odekun


Dualisation of Mende Link Road.


Kudirat Abiola Way in Ikeja and Akin adesola in Eti-Osa were upgraded to dual carriageway.

This is an aberration, saying nothing is better than this

Parachoko:
I listed 4 State Roads that was started and completed by Asiwaju and are still standing.

List 4 State Roads that was started and Completed by Pandora and stop mentioning Federal Project of less than 6km the 🤡 constructed

The joints on mende bridge are widening up and this damages shock absorbers,linkages,ball joints, cushions etc on our wheels....the worst is from Maryland inward ojota just before New garage the gap on that bridge joint is so wide that vehicles have to slow down to avoid collosal damage.....is it that the custodians of that bridge are wicked or nonchalant because this joints have been like that for several years..... this is ineptitude

Minjim:




Military rule by decree so it's easy for them to achieve a lot of they're committed.
But the worst civilian regime is still better than the best military regime

Stop that lie

Mrtaye:

Stop that lie

Can you vote under military?

Do you know how many protesters were killed or disappeared under IBB?

You Indomie generation want to start singing his praise abi ?

Minjim:


Can you vote under military?

Do you know how many protesters were killed or disappeared under IBB?

You Indomie generation want to start singing his praise abi ?

So were people allowed to vote during this election abi you think people are zombie no... this is not the democracy we envisaged okay we want free,fair and absolute democracy....you can't hoodwink people all in the name of democracy okay

Mrtaye:

So were people allowed to vote during this election abi you think people are zombie no... this is not the democracy we envisaged okay we want free,fair and absolute democracy....you can't hoodwink people all in the name of democracy okay

Did you vote?

At least we have a constitution to protect you if you felt cheated. Election cases are in court or aren't you aware?

Which court do you want to approach under military ?

Minjim:


Did you vote?

At least we have a constitution to protect you if you felt cheated. Election cases are in court or aren't you aware?

Which court do you want to approach under military ?

That's the excuses given in democracy...no one will ever doubt democracy if it's being practiced like that of America, Canada South Africa and not rogue democracies

Lagos Island maternity hospital
Abraham Adesanya Estate

Ashiwaju constructed:
2) 1059 Units of 2Bedroom bungalows of low income housing Units at Abraham Adesanya Estate Aja. (The first phase was commissioned, year 2000]
3) 160 Units of 2 bedroom bungalows at Ibeshe low income housing scheme. ( allocated and commissioned, May 2005)

4) 114 Duplexes, high income units at Oba Adeyinka Oyekan 11 Estate Lekki. ( completed and commissioned, 12th Sep. 2003)
5) 163 Units of 2-bedroom low income housing at Ayanghuru Phase 11, Ikorodu. (commissioned, 28th of June, 2001)
6) 20 Units of Town Houses and 32 Units of 8 inl, 3bedroom flats at Gbagada Medium Housing Sheme 1.
7)56 Units of 8 in 1,3 bedroom flats at Awolowo – Odofin Medium Housing schemes.
1101 Units of 8 in 1, 3 bedroom flats at Abraham Adesanya Phase 11. (commissioned, 2007).
9) 60 Units of 8 in 1, 3 bedroom flats at Ikeja.
10) 640 Units comprising 1,2 and 3 bedroom liow income flats at Ojokoro Millennium Housing Sheme.
11) 204 Units of 12 in 1 two bedroom low income flats at Shashal
12) 96 Units of 12 in 1 two bedroom low income flats at Alagba.
13) 88 Units, comprising detached / semi detached and terrace houses at Lekki 11 (High income).
14) 300 Units of 2 in 1 two bedroom bungalows at Oke Eletu (Low income). (commissioned, 2007)
15) 138 Units of 2 in 1 two bedroom flats at Oko Oba.
16) 200 Units of 2 bedroom bungalows at Ewu Elepe (Low income) PPP.

Ozommadu:


So what then did Ebola build in our former federal capital aside taxing people to death in the name of increased igr?

Any bridge in his name?

Any project he started and completed??

Ballmer:
Lagos Island maternity hospital
Abraham Adesanya Estate

Ashiwaju constructed:
2) 1059 Units of 2Bedroom bungalows of low income housing Units at Abraham Adesanya Estate Aja. (The first phase was commissioned, year 2000]
3) 160 Units of 2 bedroom bungalows at Ibeshe low income housing scheme. ( allocated and commissioned, May 2005)

4) 114 Duplexes, high income units at Oba Adeyinka Oyekan 11 Estate Lekki. ( completed and commissioned, 12th Sep. 2003)
5) 163 Units of 2-bedroom low income housing at Ayanghuru Phase 11, Ikorodu. (commissioned, 28th of June, 2001)
6) 20 Units of Town Houses and 32 Units of 8 inl, 3bedroom flats at Gbagada Medium Housing Sheme 1.
7)56 Units of 8 in 1,3 bedroom flats at Awolowo – Odofin Medium Housing schemes.
1101 Units of 8 in 1, 3 bedroom flats at Abraham Adesanya Phase 11. (commissioned, 2007).
9) 60 Units of 8 in 1, 3 bedroom flats at Ikeja.
10) 640 Units comprising 1,2 and 3 bedroom liow income flats at Ojokoro Millennium Housing Sheme.
11) 204 Units of 12 in 1 two bedroom low income flats at Shashal
12) 96 Units of 12 in 1 two bedroom low income flats at Alagba.
13) 88 Units, comprising detached / semi detached and terrace houses at Lekki 11 (High income).
14) 300 Units of 2 in 1 two bedroom bungalows at Oke Eletu (Low income). (commissioned, 2007)
15) 138 Units of 2 in 1 two bedroom flats at Oko Oba.
16) 200 Units of 2 bedroom bungalows at Ewu Elepe (Low income) PPP.

Are you just coming back from your Ebola WhatsApp group??

Ttalk:


You hateful Okoro now prefer Military rule because it is glaring that there's no partway to you becoming president shortly under democracy, hence your subtle gloating over the IBB regime.

You hate IBB and expect Ibos to hate him too because he dealt with yoruba leaders. But you love Buhari and voted him TWICE even though he is is a known anti-Igbo ethnic nepotist and hater who arrested Alex Ekwueme the Igbo VP but put his Fulani his brother President Shagari under house and was visiting him at night so they can chew gworo together. Laughable morons. Who is fooling who?


Your propaganda is dead on arrival, love who you want, hate you want but never drag other into your propaganda and campaign..
Make everybody carry him cross.