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Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by XAUBulls: 5:22pm On Aug 29, 2023
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by SaLongs1(m): 5:24pm On Aug 29, 2023
Religion has dulled the capacity of Nigerians and their rulers to reason rationally. Imagine the greed it takes to be fixated with the afterlife to the extent of going on pilgrimages and all manner of spendings in the name of the hereafter when such monies could best be applied to live a better life here and now. It is the same logic playing out here.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by tete7000(m): 5:28pm On Aug 29, 2023
sulaak:
They did feasibility studies, this is a very good project. The design that has been shared on this thread and demonstrates that the railway links the airport to Abuja City Airport t the city centre. Over the years, new settlements have been developed all over Abuja, and there is now a requirement to expand the project to integrate the poor sectors of the city.

This is a brilliant project; maintenance and operational capital might not exist to operate the railway.. The yellow section has been completed.

As usual, Bloomberg is just ignorant about Africa; they should have posted the map of the railway light shown below...
Leave bloomberg alone. Despite the billions spent on it,the rail system is not working. That is an indictment already. If it is working, will they have the effontery to write? Learn to look inward and stop blaming others for your woes. Dead railway that gulped billions is a clear indication of incompetence and cluelessness.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by naturefellow(m):
duro4chang:
But obi will never be president. He is labouring in vain
you're just after Obi, or anything that would bring light into your lives. You keep blindly antagonizing your redemption. Unfortunately, you don't see what is behind him, Obi. He's got grace, more than that rough criminal you worship for crumbs.

Bunch of reprobates. Blind as 🦇s!
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Lanretoye(m): 5:57pm On Aug 29, 2023
Dougad:
APC fool dey wail.

Your mouth odor dey block my direction. Shit go corner
who be this one?.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Teejaney88(m): 6:24pm On Aug 29, 2023
Solsix:
Funny enough they were constructed with borrowed funds
And that's the saddest part of the story...😔
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by gbishman: 6:29pm On Aug 29, 2023
Propaganda at work. Wikematics well done o.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Gajagojo: 6:34pm On Aug 29, 2023
Jeezuzpick:
grin

Oya, Oga Professor,

Which data you dey use to SHIT?

Lemme tell you.....

Before information becomes data, some effort must have been put into it to give it structure and meaning.
That is the extent of your brain capacity.

You cannot outdo your brain
DNA is data
all molecular and submolecular interaction is data
The entire existence is data
light,heat sound smell anything that exists is data. You just don't have the brain power to process that.
You cut your hair or your nails and data is transmitted triggering regrowth.
You die? data is transmitted and maggots appear
You have an undergraduate mindset capable of learning other people's ideas but not of thinking your own
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by phemmyfour: 6:49pm On Aug 29, 2023
turmacs:
The train in heading in the same direction as Nigeria, "to no where" grin
We will get there someday....both Nigeria n the train grin
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by sulaak(m): 7:03pm On Aug 29, 2023
tete7000:
Leave bloomberg alone. Despite the billions spent on it,the rail system is not working. That is an indictment already. If it is working, will they have the effontery to write? Learn to look inward and stop blaming others for your woes. Dead railway that gulped billions is a clear indication of incompetence and cluelessness.
The failure of the railway is due to the government's incompetence and corruption, but to claim that the project is a wrong design is nonsense. I subscribe to Bloomberg and am well aware of their self-interest and politics, so let us not be misled that they are looking out for Nigerians.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Solsix(m): 7:21pm On Aug 29, 2023
moshino:
How is it "funny"?
U can use any other adjective to qualify to suit you
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Jeezuzpick(m): 7:35pm On Aug 29, 2023
sulaak:
What is enlightened about his thread?

Metro or light railways are interoperability infrastructures designed to support other means of transport. The Lagos Red line will allow commuters from Ikorodu to travel via bus, Uber or passenger car to the local train station and Lagos Island by avoiding the 4-hour traffic. Commuting to Lagos Island will fall to 1 hour from 4 hours.
Lagos is not Abuja.

Okay, let's even leave out the fact that the crazy hold-up that's the norm everywhere in Lagos only happens in some areas in Abuja at peak hours,

Kindly explain why the light rail is dead, even when complete.

My own explanation is, it's USELESS!

it's there to fulfil a nonexistent purpose.

In Lagos, it will work fine. In Abuja......useless, at least for now and the nearest future.

You'll understand if you live or have lived in Abuja with its 8-lane roads and high-speed traffic.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Jeezuzpick(m): 7:36pm On Aug 29, 2023
Gajagojo:
That is the extent of your brain capacity.

You cannot outdo your brain
DNA is data
all molecular and submolecular interaction is data
The entire existence is data
light,heat sound smell anything that exists is data. You just don't have the brain power to process that.
You cut your hair or your nails and data is transmitted triggering regrowth.
You die? data is transmitted and maggots appear
You have an undergraduate mindset capable of learning other people's ideas but not of thinking your own
What is this one saying?

We are not discussing philosophy here, Bro.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Greattha: 7:47pm On Aug 29, 2023
sulaak:
They did feasibility studies, this is a very good project. The design that has been shared on this thread and demonstrates that the railway links the airport to Abuja City Airport t the city centre. Over the years, new settlements have been developed all over Abuja, and there is now a requirement to expand the project to integrate the poor sectors of the city.

This is a brilliant project; maintenance and operational capital might not exist to operate the railway.. The yellow section has been completed.

As usual, Bloomberg is just ignorant about Africa; they should have posted the map of the railway light shown below...
@ bolded.

I like the enthusiasm with which you've driven home your point...

However, riddle me this; what kind of feasibility study did they do that obviously didn't include efficient and effective operation of the rail system?

I bet the contractors went back to the BPP to request for variation yet...if you know, you know

IMHO, that's cos it was never intended to serve it's true purpose.

But I hear you.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by emmaodet: 7:52pm On Aug 29, 2023
1Alex:
Ok
So true.
I will try and read the books
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Sequence23(m): 8:08pm On Aug 29, 2023
Solsix:
Funny enough they were constructed with borrowed funds
And the common man are paying for it.
Buhari come explain yourself o
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by duro4chang(m): 8:39pm On Aug 29, 2023
[quote author=naturefellow post=125443950]you're just after Obi, or anything that would bring light into your lives. You keep blindly antagonizing your redemption. Unfortunately, you don't see what is behind him, Obi. He's got grace, more than that rough criminal you worship for crumbs.

Bunch of reprobates. Blind as
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Mandate1: 8:56pm On Aug 29, 2023
This is what you get when tribal and ethic sentiments is primary in designing and building national infrastructure.

Among the regions in Nigeria, the Easterners do more of the travelling, and it's natural for such litmus test through a novel project should put them into consideration first, since it's purely business oriented.

A East - west rail line would have made more sense, as this will create more avenue for local investors to even have their own coaches. Every Xmas, Igbos throng enmass to the east and same to Lagos and south west afterwards.

I'm not saying the Easterners are more deserving of such infrastructure than others, but using that as a testing ground wud aid better knowledge on how to adapt it in other areas where the citizens hardly commute like the easterners.

Nigeria can only get better when we become more nationalistic in approach.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by UnabashedIPOB: 9:09pm On Aug 29, 2023
What a hopeless and wasteful idiot!
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by marticeus(m): 10:41pm On Aug 29, 2023
The man from Daura send us backward by 200 and this one Abami eda from Iragbiji will also extend it. I pity 😭 our children and grandchildren, they will hear am. Soon one dollar will exchange for a Ghana must go full of Naira. When one reminisce over way of life in the 90's and 2000. It will be like paradise and the present will represent hell.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by TOPCRUISE(m): 1:35am On Aug 30, 2023
Fear of kidnappers is killing the system. All these bothers on insecurity issues
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Grandlord: 7:22am On Aug 30, 2023
descarado:
Because from the womb you as a black man has been programmed to think only about you.

When you give out, u make the world know or you give out selfishly. You believe you have a reward. Even your kids that you train, you had hope they will look after you when you get old.
My dear, that's the black man's mentality.

Have you ever thought of how you will retire?
Planning towards it?

If you go to grocery stores where I lice, uou have small section where shoppers drop in anything they feel like after shopping for the hungry. They look for no glorification. You will not even know somebody put in something. There're days kids donate small token for the hungry. It's a ritual you grow up with and you just continue with it.
Children are encouraged to give out what they don't use anymore in schools. Little children. They will just tell their parents. Even though there are food and cloth banks, these kids are encouraged to see giving as serving the society. People that did outstanding deeds are honoured.
Kids are encouraged to pick dirt and put in designated bins. Fastwords to 60yrs later, you will see wrinkled oldies doing the same. You know why, cos they were programmed to do that from cradle.

It's all about money for the black man especially Nigerian. Nigeria will never be OK with such mindset. Tomorrow, if you are in their shoe, you will behave exactly like them.
It's psychological.
Nice one. Greed and selfishness are at the root of the problems of Africans. A super greedy people don't have any business creating a nation and nationhood.
Sometimes I wonder if greed is one of the primordial instincts or DNA, recessive in other races but still dominant in us blacks😁 I mean, it could be, sadly.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Gajagojo: 8:48am On Aug 30, 2023
Jeezuzpick:
What is this one saying?

We are not discussing philosophy here, Bro.
Who is discussing philosophy
I am discussing basic physics
I am talking about data and telling you your brain capacity is low.

Data is not a function of human beings .Data exists independent of human existence

Everything in the physical world is data.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by sulaak(m): 9:56am On Aug 30, 2023
Jeezuzpick:
Lagos is not Abuja.

Okay, let's even leave out the fact that the crazy hold-up that's the norm everywhere in Lagos only happens in some areas in Abuja at peak hours,

Kindly explain why the light rail is dead, even when complete.

My own explanation is, it's USELESS!

it's there to fulfil a nonexistent purpose.

In Lagos, it will work fine. In Abuja......useless, at least for now and the nearest future.

You'll understand if you live or have lived in Abuja with its 8-lane roads and high-speed traffic.
Chief,

The Abuja Light rail is dead because of corruption and incompetence, even the Lagos Metro will not survive Nigeria's corruption, stealing tickets and selling them without remittance to the central government will destroy any operation.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by sulaak(m): 10:04am On Aug 30, 2023
Greattha:
@ bolded.

I like the enthusiasm with which you've driven home your point...

However, riddle me this; what kind of feasibility study did they do that obviously didn't include efficient and effective operation of the rail system?

I bet the contractors went back to the BPP to request for variation yet...if you know, you know

IMHO, that's cos it was never intended to serve it's true purpose.

But I hear you.
From day one, the railway has been mired in corruption, the same corruption that has destroyed the oil exporting sector; the Lagos-Ibadan Expressway is responsible for the demise of the Abuja railway.



Nigeria's corruption and destructive culture are responsible. The government should have outsourced the railway to a Western or Chinese company instead of the government officials stealing rail tickets and selling them on the black market.


Ticketing corruption by railway staff, soldiers, and policemen derailing the Abuja-Kaduna rail project (2)
Fisayo Soyombo
Fisayo Soyombo

September 28, 2020
https://businessday.ng/businessday-investigation/article/ticketing-corruption-by-railway-staff-soldiers-policemen-derailing-abuja-kaduna-rail-project-2/
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by sulaak(m): 10:09am On Aug 30, 2023
Mandate1:
This is what you get when tribal and ethic sentiments is primary in designing and building national infrastructure.

Among the regions in Nigeria, the Easterners do more of the travelling, and it's natural for such litmus test through a novel project should put them into consideration first, since it's purely business oriented.

A East - west rail line would have made more sense, as this will create more avenue for local investors to even have their own coaches. Every Xmas, Igbos throng enmass to the east and same to Lagos and south west afterwards.

I'm not saying the Easterners are more deserving of such infrastructure than others, but using that as a testing ground wud aid better knowledge on how to adapt it in other areas where the citizens hardly commute like the easterners.

Nigeria can only get better when we become more nationalistic in approach.
This is just stupid.

An East-West railway line is not a priority. Railways linking the North to the Southern port should be the priority.

An upgraded SDR railway that links the South-South ports (Warri, Port Harcourt, Onne, Calabar) to the North via the Eastern State, North Central and North East will transform the South East.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Shikini: 10:38am On Aug 30, 2023
Chai!
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Jeezuzpick(m): 11:28am On Aug 30, 2023
sulaak:
Chief,

The Abuja Light rail is dead because of corruption and incompetence, even the Lagos Metro will not survive Nigeria's corruption, stealing tickets and selling them without remittance to the central government will destroy any operation.
The corruption is the cause of the obvious white elephant project.

The incompetence is the total lack of due diligence in determining the relevance of the project in a place where the problem it will solve does not exist at this time.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Jeezuzpick(m): 11:30am On Aug 30, 2023
sulaak:
This is just stupid.

An East-West railway line is not a priority. Railways linking the North to the Southern port should be the priority.

An upgraded SDR railway that links the South-South ports (Warri, Port Harcourt, Onne, Calabar) to the North via the Eastern State, North Central and North East will transform the South East.
Hmmmm......freight lines linking Aba to PH (actually, dual lines...one freight one passenger) as well as lines linking PH-Ondo-Lag (coastal line) will work wonders in our import-export activities.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by Jeezuzpick(m): 11:33am On Aug 30, 2023
Gajagojo:
Who is discussing philosophy
I am discussing basic physics
I am talking about data and telling you your brain capacity is low.

Data is not a function of human beings .Data exists independent of human existence

Everything in the physical world is data.
I will leave you with your high brain capacity, spewing esoteric but impractical nonsense.

I am an engineer. I deal with data I can use.

The one that exists 'outside my existence' is not my concern.

You can make it yours and use it as you see fit, since you're a genius.

Lemme stay on my low brain capacity level.
Re: Nigeria’s Train To Nowhere Shows How Not To Build Public Transit - Bloomberg by talented321: 11:42am On Aug 30, 2023
That manchi is suffering from dementia.. Leave him and let him be roaming around...
duro4chang:
But obi will never be president. He is labouring in vain
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