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| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by Usenokpevbo: 2:49pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
lawani:It is not true o, Tivs are many o, they are even indigenous to plateau state, they have two local government there, shedam and one other one. Their migratory population in Kano and Laduna is really high, it is not what we can wish away
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| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 2:54pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo:Waec registration which is paid for is more tenable than voter registration which is free. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 2:56pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo:Anywhere they are indigenous with traditional rulership and territory not contested with them is Tiv land and should be in one state |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by Usenokpevbo: 3:03pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
lawani:how can waec registration tell better of the population of a state than voter’s registration, please help me understand your logic, Many of these people do not go to school, remember we are not talking about the financial strength of these people, but their numerical strength, it is one pvc per person, you cannot register twice |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 3:06pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo:There is under age registration as well as registration apathy but waec registration is an indication of the population of school age kids which is an indication of the total population. NIN registration can also be okay as you need NIN to have a bank account. BVN is also good but voter registration can not be trusted |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by Usenokpevbo: 3:22pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
lawani:i know there is under age registration, that is why i will never use the statistics for the core north, Beside, Benue people do not think like the core north, they do not have the same ideas with them, so their voter’s registration process is almost like that of the south. They do not register children there. Voter apathy will only hold sway in coming out to actually vote, but many people do go out to collect their voters card, majority of households has it,just that they will not go out to vote. You can’t have it without registering for it. Many have it as a means of identification outside the voting need for it. What is wrong with your waec stats is that majority of students in Benue state actually go to farm from Class and many do not even write waec as they are great farmers. Voter’s registration gives an idea of the total number of adults in a state, when the you add the number of children and some adults who did not register, you should have an idea of the population of the state. Most times just double, the population of the voter’s registration or double two times and half, you should have an idea of the population of that state Little wonder, it’s very certain that more populous states always have more voter’s registration, excepts for the north where child registration is prevalent. It’s largely true for southern states and north central states with southern mentality. That is why Lagos has seven million registered voters and rivers, delta , oyo which are just about half of Lagos has between 3.3 to 3.5 million voter’s registration.
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| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 3:33pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo:All states have kids who don't go to school, it maybe more though in some places but waec registration is a good tracker than voters registration by far. Lagos is up to four times of those states you mentioned apart from Oyo and voters registration is saying otherwise, it is therefore not a good metric. I think you can use waec stats to compare states like Benue, Osun and Lagos among themselves but maybe with Kano, there will be issues, even in the East there will be issues because of their apprenticeship system which is similar to Almajri of the Hausa. However, I will ignore the issues to have something to work with |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by Usenokpevbo: 3:44pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
lawani:i served there, i am from the south there is nothing you can tell me, they don’t go to school my brother, It is a very rubbish statistics, you can’t compare it. Majority of the yams they bring to the south are farmed by these people. They do not believe in education that much. If you use the waec stats, you get it so wrong well, How will Lagos be up to four times of rivers state. Lagos is 20 million. Rivers with Portharcourt as its capital city cannot be less than 10 million. Lagos Lagos is at most two times of rivers and Delta. I can name 10 towns that are largely urbanized. Delta probably has the most urbanized towns in southern Nigeria. There is sapele, Warri, Agbor, Asaba, Oghara, Ughelli, Abraka, Uvwie, Owa. etc Delta is just about 9-10 million. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 7:51pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo:I did not mean Rivers. Lagos is around 2.2 times of Rivers state if WAEC stats is used and Oyo is more than Rivers with the same stats and Oyo is likely to have more out of school kids than Rivers. Delta is behind Oyo in population even behind Osun in urbanisation. Delta towns are smaller. Osun has more urban spread than most other states. Delta will be highest six to seven million in population not nine to ten million which will put it above Rivers and Edo state. Even if we don't use waec stats, and use airtime loaded and other metrics like igr you are going to have similar results, so the effect of those who don't go to school is everywhere tangential. Nigerian population is in descending order SW, SS, NW, NC, NE, SE from all real stats and this is why poverty is not as prevalent in the North as claimed because population is not right in some states. Kaduna had 100k waec registration when Kano had 66k and Oyo had like 71k but some other stats still show Kano leading Kaduna but never Lagos in any stats. Only a large volume of data can assist in arriving at an educated conclusion but the fact that SS is second only to the SW can not be denied. NW has no real answer to SS cities. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by Usenokpevbo: 9:16pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
lawani:You seem not to really understand the demography of most state in Southern Nigeria, Delta and Rivers and Oyo are contemporaries. Oyo is not more than Rivers, Rivers is the most populated state after Lagos in the southern part of Nigeria. You are using waec stats that only picture or feature students of seventeen and eighteen years old across the state and chose to neglect the population of 19 to maybe 79 years and above who are not writing waec at that particular time. How shallow can you be? You chose to neglect a stats that tells of adult in a particular state, from the ages of 18 to over eighty years. And there was a report somewhere that 44 of Nigeria’s population are 15 years and under, so roughly a two and half multiplication will fairly give you an idea of the figures of any states. Delta is not behind Oyo in population for a certain. And for you to say it is behind Osun state in urbanization shows you have never been to Delta state in your life. Delta state is the most urbanized state when it Comes to spread across the whole state in the southern region of Nigeria. They have more full towns than anywhere else in Nigeria. They have as full towns Asaba, Warri, Ogwa-shuku,Ughelli, Oghara, Ozoro, Abraka, Udu, agbor, sapele, Owa, Uvwie, Oleh, etc i mean these places are full with life, banks, eateries, etc. Delta is at the very least about nine million. The part of Delta state occupied by Urhobo-Isoko linguistic cluster should be about 4 million with about 7000 kilometers square of landmass. 65 percent of Urhobo- Isoko land is urban. They have about 45% of the population of Delta State. Anioma should be next, with about 6000km square of land and no less than 2.5 million people. Ijaws in patani,bomadi, Burutu, plus their presence in Warri south west and Warri north Should pit them with about 1 million people The same with itsekiris with about 1 million That should already give us a total figure of about -8.5million people. Not considering yet the migrants populations of Igbos, Ilaje, Esans, and other minority groups in delta state. Those Igr, the number of airtime is not credible as it tells more on the economic buoyancy of the place than its actual population. Delta is more populated than Edo state. Edo state has 2.5 million registered voters, delta has over 700,000 more and cannot be less populated. Warri should be very close to a million, Asaba is over 500,000 Sapele and Agbor are each around the four hundred thousand mark. Benin city is big fine, Benin city and metro might be up to 3.5 million. But outside Benin City in Edo state, other towns are just there, the next town following It is Auchi and it is not more than 400,000. The over 12 to 15 urban towns in Delta state would more than enough make up for that. Coupled with the fact that many parts of Urhobo and Anioma land are largely Urban. I am giving you this education for free, as i know you might never travel to Delta state. Yorubas are not good travelers, so they don’t know. You might just find yourself in an Anioma town, it doesn’t even have a strong name known to the public but there are high rise buildings everywhere and there is density. Edo state is about 7 million. Delta is definitely more populated than Edo state. What gave rivers state an edge is that the Igbo villages there outside Portharcourt properly is densely populated and there are also other Ijaw communities too . You can take three Ekiti states out of Delta state. Anioma is just about the same size or maybe bigger than Ekiti state. And it is not even the biggest senatorial district numerically out there in delta state. Delta state, Rivers state and Oyo state are equally matched numerically. They are all around safely nine million and above. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 10:55pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
No state in Nigeria has the number of urban centers of Osun but they may have more population. No state in Nigeria has two major African cities ranked as top urban centers in Africa apart from Oyo state. Highest populated states are Lagos, Kaduna,Oyo,Kano, Rivers Ogun others rank after them. No group in Nigeria is more widely travelled than Yoruba both within Nigeria in Africa and globally. Yoruba in US are three times Igbo in population, UK may be more not to talk of Ghana, Cote D'Ivoire etc. Yoruba have been travelling in the modern era five hundred years before others, I wonder where you got the idea that Yoruba don't travel |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by Usenokpevbo: 1:56am On Sep 01, 2023*. Modified: 2:16am On Sep 01, 2023 |
lawani:leave your shell my brother, Osun state is a backlog of water, don’t call those villages towns, Osun state has nothing on Delta state. If you believe that Kano state (is the most populous state aside Lagos, then your education is wasted)that was adjudged more populous than Lagos, when jigawa was one with Kano, then Jigawa was taken from it, it was still adjudged more populous. then your education is wasted. Kano state is only more populous on paper, in real life,-this is the order - Lagos,then Rivers, Delta, Oyo in no particular order before Kano. Leave your comfort zone so that you can also objectively give opinions, “nor be tell me say” |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 2:46am On Sep 01, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo:If I am travelling to know things, then what I can know in one year will not be knowable in ten life times. You have to agree that if Oyo has more waec registration than Rivers it clearly means it has a higher population. Isn't it?. They are at the same level of exposure to western education and Rivers is more exposed. There are certainly more Oyo indigenes in Rivers than vice versa. It is only Kano's case that can be argued. Oyo also have more than Kano but Kano might be less exposed to western education a bit but Oyo has similar problems too to an extent and since other stats show Oyo leading Kano then probably the waec stats is not misleading. Ogun and Kaduna are also ahead of Rivers in waec stats and some other metrics also Kaduna etc Rivers by waec stats is less than half of Lagos and there is no reason to disbelieve that. Kaduna by waec stats is like 75 percent of Lagos but some stats put Kano and Ogun ahead of Kaduna and Ogun is just above 50 percent of Lagos by waec stats. The contradiction is a mystery. It is pointing to many children in Kaduna and many adults in Kano, Ogun, Oyo by comparison Believe what you want but no state has the combination of Osogbo Ilesa Ile Ife Iwo, Ede, Ila Orangun Ejigbo and etc that have been sprawling urban centers for centuries if not thousands of years but some states have higher population but not more urban centers than Osun |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 12:24pm On Sep 02, 2023*. Modified: 4:38pm On Sep 02, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo:We are all learning and I get more educated every day. You have to admit that mere speculation is not adequate and valid data is what can give a fair judgement of population Active GSM lines Waec stats number of active personal bank accounts or bank branches number of common entrance candidates and etc I would not touch official population figures and voter registration figures with a long pole These data are available online for different years. If you analyse them and submit a report, it can qualify as a PhD thesis but mere emotional outbursts don't cut it but Delta has a slightly higher population than Osun but it is not more urbanized, Osun is more urbanized by far meaning it is more organized and advanced. Delta advantage is because of oil money. Osun advantage is in agro allied but it is being neglected |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by EmekaA125(m): 9:16am On Feb 15, 2024 |
maestroferddi:Okuns don't even believe they are Yorubas. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by EmekaA125(m): 9:21am On Feb 15, 2024 |
lawani:You will count Igbos in Lagos as Yorubas baa ?? Delusion |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 2:37pm On Feb 15, 2024 |
EmekaA125:There are more Yoruba in PH than Igbo in Lagos by percentage. If you are staying somewhere as a non citizen and you don't want to naturalize then you will end up as an expatriate |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by EmekaA125(m): 10:52am On Feb 16, 2024 |
lawani:Are the Yorubas in PH hiding in rocks and caves?? Igbo population in Lagos is more than Ekiti State population. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 1:59pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
EmekaA125:Have you ever been to PH? A large percentage if not all taxi drivers, a large percentage of oil workers, federal civil servants, artisans and etc then business owners. I have friends and family permanently based in PH. You may not know it but PH has more Yoruba by percentage than Lagos have Igbos. Yoruba scattered around Nigeria is almost double the population of Igbos scattered in thesame way. Check people on Quora by Nigerian city name and you will agree. Now, the population of Ekiti will be at least 3.5 million to be modest. If Igbos are up to that in Lagos then you will agree that Hausa are also up to that. SS without Igbos will be up to that and NC will be up to that. NE will be at least one third, foreigners will be more than that and the total number of non Yoruba will be around 18 million. Can you now see why your figure is wrong? |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by Eastlink(m): 2:37pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
lawani:Who dash the Yorubas the bogus figures you accord them in PH? In this my PH or another one. To even compare the number of Igbos in Lagos to the number of Yoruba in PH is the height of delusion. Even your fellow Yorubas will be laughing at you. You can easily count the Yorubas in PH who are too insignificant and lesser than even the Ibibios than the Igbos in Lagos who dominate several Lagos LGA's in population. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by BentizilL0: 2:42pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
EmekaA125:Okun are Yoruba, stop writing nonsense... |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by EmekaA125(m): 4:50am On Feb 17, 2024 |
BentizilL0:Go and force them. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by EmekaA125(m): 4:55am On Feb 17, 2024 |
lawani:Which Ekiti is 3.5m? Ekiti that's so dry and empty with less inhabitants is 3.5m....Lol Guy, Yorubas in PH are very few and negligible. Aside, SouthWest, there's no other State or region you can ever find Yorubas in large numbers like the IGBOS. This argument is needless because you aren't being realistic. Distorting facts makes argument like this watery and insignificant. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by lawani(m): 6:18am On Feb 17, 2024 |
EmekaA125:Not quite true because the evidence I cited can be admissible for use in a PhD dissertation. Anybody can use Google. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by BentizilL0: 7:53am On Feb 17, 2024 |
EmekaA125:I don't even need to force them, they are Yoruba with pride.. ![]() I know it's paining you that people are rejecting your people left and right, so it's disheartening to you that people are claiming Yoruba with confidence.. Me wey no be Yoruba sef dey claim Yoruba, who no like better thing.. ![]() |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by EmekaA125(m): 12:52pm On Feb 23, 2024 |
lawani:Yoruba Agbo induced gibberish. So in your deluded minds, SE which you have never been to is the least populated region in Nigeria?? I said I would never argue with Yorubas again because they base their opinion on hear say and fake stats. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by Junior66(m): 5:41am On May 11, 2025 |
Usenokpevbo:Tiv people are a very small minority in Nasarawa State, they do not control any senatorial zone in the state. In fact they do not control even a single LGA in the state. A lot of Nasarawa State people do not regard them as indigenous. |
| Re: Subjective Population Of The Three Major Ethnicities by Junior66(m): 5:57am On May 11, 2025 |
Ttalk:You can lie! I'm from the north, Kogi precisely. Oga, the population of Igbos in the north is probably 20 times the number of Yorubas in the north. In some northern states Igbos are among the top 3-5 most populated ethnic groups including indigenous tribes o. Yorubas have significant numbers in some northern areas like Jos, Keffi, Akwanga, Suleja, Kaduna, Abuja etc but it still doesn't come close to even be compared with the population of Igbos. |
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