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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Nobody: 11:01am On Nov 13, 2020
Yujin:

The stinking fulani doing all he knows to do best; hitting the heads of southern groups against themselves so they remain perpetually divided and weak.

Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by valirex: 11:45am On Nov 13, 2020
Juliusmalema:


I can confirm that based on the way you keep pushing against my submission here.

Anyway what is your conclusion to all that ?

It's obvious, he stated the fact already. Oduduwa (Ekaladeran) could not have come down from heaven with a chain or from meca, that's preposterous.
And I believe you're a history student, you should understand we prove histories with fact and not with sentiments

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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Nobody: 11:52am On Nov 13, 2020
valirex:


It's obvious, he stated the fact already. Oduduwa (Ekaladeran) could not have come down from heaven with a chain or from meca, that's preposterous.
And I believe you're a history student, you should understand we prove histories with fact and not with sentiments

So you dissociating the link?
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by valirex: 11:56am On Nov 13, 2020
Juliusmalema:


So you dissociating the link?


Apart from Ekaladeran (Oduduwa) there is no other link between Benin and Yoruba
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Nobody: 12:37pm On Nov 13, 2020
valirex:


Apart from Ekaladeran (Oduduwa) there is no other link between Benin and Yoruba

What about similarities in names and link as said by Ooni apart from olugbo?
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Etrusen(m): 1:09pm On Nov 13, 2020
Juliusmalema:


What about similarities in names and link as said by Ooni apart from olugbo?


they are simply as a result of inter_marriage, those that came with omonoyan (oronmiyan) to Benin eg the family of the elawure of Usen and the Edigin Use in present day Use village where the Oba always go to when he want to choose a name as king.

Note: in Use we have three prominent families
1) the Olomuza n Use

2) the Edigin Use
3) the Olo n Use


and talking about name can we now claim Japan for answering some Edo names ?
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Nobody: 1:16pm On Nov 13, 2020
Etrusen:



they are simply as a result of inter_marriage, those that came with omonoyan (oronmiyan) to Benin eg the family of the iyawure of Usen and the Edigin Use in present day Use village where the Oba always go to when he want to choose a name as king.

Note: in Use we have three prominent families
1 the Olo n Use
2 the Edigin Use
and one other family I can't remember now but I will give the name later
apart from the Edigin Use, the other two families have been there functioning for it purpose.


and talking about name can we now claim Japan for answering some Edo names ?



Allow me and the other young man to discuss this because I know fadeyi, oluwasegun even as surnames exist there.


Let him answer me not you. I recently noticed you are biased and hateful.
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Etrusen(m): 1:22pm On Nov 13, 2020
Juliusmalema:




Allow me and the other young man to discuss this because I know fadeyi, oluwasegun even as surnames exist there.


Let him answer me not you. I recently noticed you are biased and hateful.


so am now hateful and bias for saying the truth?

ok no problem ask my fellow country man if am wrong on what I just told you.
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Etrusen(m): 1:23pm On Nov 13, 2020
Juliusmalema:




Allow me and the other young man to discuss this because I know fadeyi, oluwasegun even as surnames exist there.


Let him answer me not you. I recently noticed you are biased and hateful.


and please tell me the fadeyi and co you are talking about
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by valirex: 1:51pm On Nov 13, 2020
Juliusmalema:


What about similarities in names and link as said by Ooni apart from olugbo?

When you live close to people you tend to share some similarities.

Some words in Yoruba are similar to Igbo does that mean you are one and the same?

You bear an English name does that make you a British?

Your moniker is Julius does that make you a Roman?

Japan was one named Edo, can we now lay claim to Japan?

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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Bundaweber: 4:56pm On Nov 13, 2020
Etrusen:



they are simply as a result of inter_marriage, those that came with omonoyan (oronmiyan) to Benin eg the family of the iyawure of Usen and the Edigin Use in present day Use village where the Oba always go to when he want to choose a name as king.

Note: in Use we have three prominent families
1 the Olo n Use
2 the Edigin Use
and one other family I can't remember now but I will give the name later
apart from the Edigin Use, the other two families have been there functioning for it purpose.


and talking about name can we now claim Japan for answering some Edo names ?





elawure not iyawure

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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Etrusen(m): 5:48am On Nov 14, 2020
Bundaweber:





elawure not iyawure


thanks
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Okada691: 2:01pm On Aug 31, 2023
scholes0:
So Ikpoba Okha is not even 100% indiginous binis? Same with the Ovia local governments same with Orhionmwon.

How many LG do Binis now indigenously occupy in entirety?

understand that the Bini local government in Edo state are the biggest in the state both rural and urban. All available statistics shows that Orhiowmon is about 3 times the size of Igueben numerically and Orhiowmon as a local government is at most 17 ika, therefore the Bini part of Orhiowmon are at the least two and a half times the size of igueben local government. Mind you Orhiowmon is a totally rural local government.

Oredo is hundred percent Bini,

Egor is hundred percent Bini.

Uhuwonde is 95 percent Bini

Ovia south west is 75 % Bini. The Bini part of this lga will just be about the same size with Esan south east



Ovia north east is 90 percent Bini. The capital Okada is a Bini town and no Esan town except Ekpoma and Uromi is numerically stronger than it. Okada was estimated to be 78 thousand inhabitants in 2011, it is about 100,000 or more today roughly being the same size with Irrua town in Esan central local government. In that Esan central local government, you have just irrua and Ewu. Ewu will just be half the size of irrua.

But in Ovia north east, you also have Ekiadolor which is also close to the population of Okada and Other hundreds of Bini communities. Local government are not all the same size bro. They are like states,

The rural Bini will just be about the same size numerically with the entire Esan land or more not counting the Binis now who are not residents in their communities but in Benin City

Ikpoba Okha is also 95 percent Bini,there are ten wards in ikpoba okha, and its only in ologbo ward that you can find Ijaw and itsekiri communities alongside with the Bini communities there.

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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by lexyking(m): 3:19pm On Aug 31, 2023
How about the the Ogun and Ayelala deities? because I know for a fact that both the Yorubas and Binis worship these deities which we can all agree have the same historical origin


valirex:

Apart from Ekaladeran (Oduduwa) there is no other link between Benin and Yoruba

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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by scholes0(m): 9:47pm On Aug 31, 2023
Okada691:
understand that the Bini local government in Edo state are the biggest in the state both rural and urban. All available statistics shows that Orhiowmon is about 3 times the size of Igueben numerically and Orhiowmon as a local government is at most 17 ika, therefore the Bini part of Orhiowmon are at the least two and a half times the size of igueben local government. Mind you Orhiowmon is a totally rural local government.

Oredo is hundred percent Bini,

Egor is hundred percent Bini.

Uhuwonde is 95 percent Bini

Ovia south west is 75 % Bini. The Bini part of this lga will just be about the same size with Esan south east



Ovia north east is 90 percent Bini. The capital Okada is a Bini town and no Esan town except Ekpoma and Uromi is numerically stronger than it. Okada was estimated to be 78 thousand inhabitants in 2011, it is about 100,000 or more today roughly being the same size with Irrua town in Esan central local government. In that Esan central local government, you have just irrua and Ewu. Ewu will just be half the size of irrua.

But in Ovia north east, you also have Ekiadolor which is also close to the population of Okada and Other hundreds of Bini communities. Local government are not all the same size bro. They are like states,

The rural Bini will just be about the same size numerically with the entire Esan land or more not counting the Binis now who are not residents in their communities but in Benin City

Ikpoba Okha is also 95 percent Bini,there are ten wards in ikpoba okha, and its only in ologbo ward that you can find Ijaw and itsekiri communities alongside with the Bini communities there.

Is this Ologbo wth a different account?

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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Simbrixton(m): 9:57pm On Aug 31, 2023
scholes0:


Is this Ologbo wth a different account?
where e for dey see d percentage sef ?
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Okada691: 2:27am On Sep 01, 2023
Simbrixton:
where e for dey see d percentage sef ?
simple study, I don’t bank on hearsay, I have to embark on it because of the several minority groups crying marginalization when their claims are unfounded.

It is just like ogoni or Isoko crying marginalization where Yorubas are when in actual terms, they are super minorities when compared to these groups. The talk of percentage scare you alive. Just some small research will expose you to the fact that the Binis has the largest set of local government in Edo state.

The percentage hurts you but my brother you guys are just bunch of irrelevant minorities in Edo State making the loudest noises

Are these not your dead communities, look at how scantily populated the place is, dead communities that you use to make noise, will these communities pass as a quarter in Okada, Abudu, Urhonigbe, Iguobazuwa, Oza Aibiokunla, Ekiadolor, Udo, Usen etc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sWKmIKBg5c

This is Iguobazuwa below,a Bini town in Edo state, not connected to Benin City in anyway some 45 kilometers away from Benin City but you can see how full of life the place is. This one will safely clean up whatever heritage you think you have in Edo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOO5rXdkWuc?si=SGn4mIAsGfX5FCDM

I also learnt in the course of my study, That as at 1952 Bini had the population of 203,000 people, while Itsekiris on the other hand in that same year,had just mere 34,000. That is as at 1952, the Binis had over five times the size of the itsekiris numerically, today it is still over four times no matter how you count,

I

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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Okada691: 2:34am On Sep 01, 2023
scholes0:


Is this Ologbo wth a different account?
i had to let you know that some seventy five percent of Benin comnmunities in some local government in Edo South would create two full local government elsewhere in Edo state and delta state

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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Simbrixton(m): 6:46pm On Sep 01, 2023
Okada691:
simple study, I don’t bank on hearsay, I have to embark on it because of the several minority groups crying marginalization when their claims are unfounded.

It is just like ogoni or Isoko crying marginalization where Yorubas are when in actual terms, they are super minorities when compared to these groups. The talk of percentage scare you alive. Just some small research will expose you to the fact that the Binis has the largest set of local government in Edo state.

The percentage hurts you but my brother you guys are just bunch of irrelevant minorities in Edo State making the loudest noises

Are these not your dead communities, look at how scantily populated the place is, dead communities that you use to make noise, will these communities pass as a quarter in Okada, Abudu, Urhonigbe, Iguobazuwa, Oza Aibiokunla, Ekiadolor, Udo, Usen etc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sWKmIKBg5c

This is Iguobazuwa below,a Bini town in Edo state, not connected to Benin City in anyway some 45 kilometers away from Benin City but you can see how full of life the place is. This one will safely clean up whatever heritage you think you have in Edo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOO5rXdkWuc?si=SGn4mIAsGfX5FCDM

I also learnt in the course of my study, That as at 1952 Bini had the population of 203,000 people, while Itsekiris on the other hand in that same year,had just mere 34,000. That is as at 1952, the Binis had over five times the size of the itsekiris numerically, today it is still over four times no matter how you count,

I
haha
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Simbrixton(m): 6:47pm On Sep 01, 2023
Okada691:
simple study, I don’t bank on hearsay, I have to embark on it because of the several minority groups crying marginalization when their claims are unfounded.

It is just like ogoni or Isoko crying marginalization where Yorubas are when in actual terms, they are super minorities when compared to these groups. The talk of percentage scare you alive. Just some small research will expose you to the fact that the Binis has the largest set of local government in Edo state.

The percentage hurts you but my brother you guys are just bunch of irrelevant minorities in Edo State making the loudest noises

Are these not your dead communities, look at how scantily populated the place is, dead communities that you use to make noise, will these communities pass as a quarter in Okada, Abudu, Urhonigbe, Iguobazuwa, Oza Aibiokunla, Ekiadolor, Udo, Usen etc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sWKmIKBg5c

This is Iguobazuwa below,a Bini town in Edo state, not connected to Benin City in anyway some 45 kilometers away from Benin City but you can see how full of life the place is. This one will safely clean up whatever heritage you think you have in Edo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOO5rXdkWuc?si=SGn4mIAsGfX5FCDM

I also learnt in the course of my study, That as at 1952 Bini had the population of 203,000 people, while Itsekiris on the other hand in that same year,had just mere 34,000. That is as at 1952, the Binis had over five times the size of the itsekiris numerically, today it is still over four times no matter how you count,

I
beside obazuwa is ikoro community which is fully ijaw
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Okada691: 6:18am On Sep 02, 2023
Simbrixton:
beside obazuwa is ikoro community which is fully ijaw
How is Obazuwa ikoro community, maybe you meant to say Obazuwa is beside Ikoro community

Besides among Bini communities, there is a difference between Obazuwa and Iguobazuwa.

While Obazuwa and Ikoro are both in Ovia north east local government, Iguobazuwa is in ovia south west and it is not by any means close to any Ijaw community.

While Obazuwa a Bini community beside Ikoro in Ovia north east is about the population of 3,000 people. Iguobazuwa another Bini community is the headquarter of Ovia south west not close to any Ijaw community and it is well over 70,000 people. If you had watched that video, you would have seen that the first person that prayed for her was the Odionwere of Iguobazuwa who even prayed in Bini.

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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Okada691: 6:24am On Sep 02, 2023
Simbrixton:
beside obazuwa is ikoro community which is fully ijaw
That is Obazuwa community, a Bini community crying attack from their Ijaw neighbors, the Ikoro. The first three men in fact spoke in Bini

Get some education,don’t come commenting confidently on what you know nothing about


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFd1N05R-g?si=1-XvbMud9KACiWTb

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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Cooletempa: 9:12am On Sep 02, 2023

I am not here to troll. I only wanted to correct your lies or your wishful thinking in order to avoid confusing unsuspecting readers.
So to all readers whom are more inclined to learning rather than trashing or being abused:
The Oba of Benin is not "yoruboid" eventhough making this claim appeals to Biafran radicals and Yoruba supremacists alike.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zK2bsZhPIo

This video already says it all concerning the relationship between the Itsikiri and the Oba of Benin.
As you can see the Oba of Benin is the father of the Olu of Warri. Just like he is the father of many other kings including the king of Lagos.

The Oba of Benin is not the father to the Olu . The Ooni is the father to all.
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Simbrixton(m): 8:39pm On Sep 02, 2023
Okada691:
That is Obazuwa community, a Bini community crying attack from their Ijaw neighbors, the Ikoro. The first three men in fact spoke in Bini

Get some education,don’t come commenting confidently on what you know nothing about


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFd1N05R-g?si=1-XvbMud9KACiWTb
Ozuo i am saying dsame tin u said mumu
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Okada691: 9:46pm On Sep 02, 2023
Simbrixton:
Ozuo i am saying dsame tin u said mumu
you made a mistake in what you wrote ozuo. You should have just clearly accept your mistake.

Beside that obazuwa is different from this Iguobazuwa. Hope you ve learnt now slowpoke

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Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Simbrixton(m): 10:08pm On Sep 02, 2023
Okada691:
you made a mistake in what you wrote ozuo. You should have just clearly accept your mistake.

Beside that obazuwa is different from this Iguobazuwa. Hope you ve learnt now slowpoke
i said ikoro is beside obazuwa they are basically neighbours i dont mean obazuwa is ijaw so i made no mistake u dont have to be rude
Re: Itsekiri, Ijaw In Edo Oppose Alleged Hegemony Of Benin Kingdom by Okada691: 3:57am On Sep 03, 2023
Simbrixton:
i said ikoro is beside obazuwa they are basically neighbours i dont mean obazuwa is ijaw so i made no mistake u dont have to be rude
go and reread your post again, I am tired of screen grabbing your initial post for you.

And I am telling you now that Obazuwa is different from Iguobazuwa. That is another mistake, If you had known they were different, you wouldn’t have brought Obazuwa in an Iguobazuwa conversation. Cheers

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