What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? - Politics (3) - Nairaland
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| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Occurstaem(m): 6:16pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
happney65:Whoever told you Fulani are suppressing traditional religion in Ilorin is not telling you the truth. |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by happney65: 6:22pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
Naijaboy18:I gave you facts now you don dey vex. What exactly did they do before the oba said he will throw them into the lagoon if they didn't vote for ambode? Answer me,you can't. If the Eze in the SE has said that to Yoruba's I'm sure all hell would have been let loose now. But as Yoruba's will say "Eni ti eniyan ba le da my lo ma ba ja" Isn't it? P.S. I'm Yoruba by the way so get that into your oblongata |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by raskymonojendor: 6:22pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
jahsharon:They would rather commit mass suicide than stay in the SE. Anambra.1stson was always campaigning for his brothers scattered all over the SW to come home, but na insult dem dey dash am 😁 |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by gidgiddy: 6:24pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
updatechange:You are progressing? How? I dont see any Dubai' in Yoruba land |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by raskymonojendor: 6:25pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
DaddyFreeze2020:It was before that actually. The yorubas advanced much earlier and the ibos have always been playing catch-up. Azikiwe in the process used all sort of propaganda and hate to advance their catch-up agenda. Check out the below: [quote author=Ibrahimcoomasie post=122084957]Early politicians of the 30s, 40s, Chiefs among them are mostly talented in writing and journalism and some owned media outfits, with which they laud and inflate their egos while simultaneously deflating d profile of those they disagree with in the political firmament. Herbert Macaulay (A Yoruba man), the Father of Nigerian Nationalism, also a journalist was fond of calling dissenting voices 'imperialism agents' but ZIK took it to an elevated proportion, re-christened it to 'imperial stooges', 'Uncle Toms' and 'aunty Jememas', even those whose patriotism and Nationalism had never been in doubt were so named; minor disagreements and you are blacklisted. ZIK had a Newspaper outlet, 'the Pilot', a tool he creatively used to maximum advantage. The editors would daily eulogize him for d basics, and sometimes for the hitherto unknown and unheard of good things for Nigeria, nay, 'Mother Africa', Some of them acclaimed him as d 'Ghandi of Africa' and others declared that ZIK deeds had 'eleczik-ified' them. ZIK was obviously very gifted, intelligent and clever which manifested in his works; however, he was regarded by many of his peers as the 1st consummate propagandist that Nigeria ever produced. In inflating his own ego or deflating that of his rivals, publications on the Pilot observed neither modesty nor reck. In this connection, he was in direct line of succession to Herbet Macaulay, but like all sons who are worthy of their parentage, in this respect, ZIK outdid Herbert Macaulay, for he took propaganda several notches higher with a slant of deep seated tribalism. [b]For example, when the ban on Palm Kernel was imposed, the Pilot supported it and reported thus: "the measure by the Government is fair. Instead of reducing the whole country to poverty, only the Western provinces will be affected and they can switch over to other avenues, to make body and soul live." He held similar stance as to the agitation against the 'Cocoa Pool'. ZIK brazenly supported a policy which clearly threatened the livelihood of the Yorubas. Were the East on the receiving end here, ZIK would have dipped pen in gall, and crafted a creatively worded opinion on the Pilot, denouncing the Cocoa Pool as an 'imperialist device or stratagem whose aim, object and purpose was to oppress, repress, depress and distress Nigerian Cocoa producers and dealers economically' and he would have replicated same for d ban on palm kernels in d West. He would have labeled it 'a gross betrayal of trust, an indelible stain, blemish and stigma on British imperialism; a vain attempt, a complete misfire and a palpable boner in the realm of divide et impera.'[/b] Pardon my poor attempt at replicating ZIK's creative writing genius, he many a time used such strong words. ZIK took this tribalist venom to higher Plateau when he graced the front page of the Pilot, and entitled it 'Football Iliad, 1940 Edition' what many described as a shocker, a big step forward in an insidious campaign colored in Bigotry. A football match between 2 schools, Christ the King's college, Onitsha was hosted by St. Gregory's college in Lagos, in a match tagged 'Win the War'. The CKC team from Onitsha defeated St Gregory's team by 5 goals to 4. Spectators had a good watch, even the host considered the match very entertaining, a bonding moment for teams made up of teenagers of different cultures, that afterall is the spirit of sport. But how did ZIK report it? ZIK saw in the sporting exploits and triumph of the team from Onitsha the inherent superiority of the Ibos over the Yorubas and he went to very great pains to establish this in d careful choice of words and emphasis.. "And then to think of the great combination of d Spartan heroes who crossed her loudly Niger, journeyed through the good earth of Benin, hurried across the domains of the Oshemawe of Ondo, of the Atanla of Owo, of the Owa of Ilesha, of the Ooni of Ife, of the Alake of Abeokuta in their invasion of these islands! Who, but heroes of mighty brawn and exceptionally developed brain would have dared to make this invasion and to succeed in carrying to their River Niger home, the Golden fleece of Inter-Collegiate Soccer Championship of d Eastern and Western Provinces?" https://twitter.com/LegendaryJoe/status/1638066082652012545?t=kX5tAe6CJgjxafLLfDYiPQ&s=19[/quote] |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Nobody: 6:30pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
happney65:No one has said that to Yorubas in SE because they are well behaved and quiet and don’t go around everywhere insulting the indigenous people of their lands unlike certain people. And let’s be honest Yorubas are not in the east in the number they are in west. Also Igbos were threatening people during this election in the east if they didn’t vote obi. |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by raskymonojendor: 6:30pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
And: [quote author=Ibrahimcoomasie post=122084961]CONT'D ...Such was the mocking tone with which ZIK described an innocent football match with a slant of superiority complex. But the same CKC team met the Olubadan XI, an undiluted Yoruba team in another 'Win the War' match on 24 August 1940 and were roundly defeated 3-2. It may just be a matter of coincidence that ZIK wasn't in the mood to write at the time or perhaps he suffered what we call 'Writer's Block', because for more than 2 weeks, this headline event never got reported on the Pilot. And when the paper finally wrote on it, it was only a small item on the back page, like a mistress smuggled out of the window at the arrival of the madam of the house..and was laced with excuses, "the CKC team was already tired; some of the players were in fact limping before the match", and other calculated efforts to avoid giving the yoruba boys their well deserved accolade, and extreme energy was exerted in ensuring the brilliance and talent of those little yoruba boys was never acknowledged. This was but tip of the Iceberg, ZIK would go full scale Bigotry afterwards. Shall I Begin? The Ibos were given inordinate publicity on the pages of the paper, which I regard as appropriate and in order, to promote one's root..but at a time when other Nationalists made concerted efforts in describing citizens of Nigeria as Nigerians or Africans and celebrated their laurels and feats as credits to Nigeria and Africa as a whole, ZIK would jettison the whole for the particular and elevate Ibo over and above every other tribe and largely over Nigeria as an entity, and in a manner that smirked Ego inspired Hate. Typical Front Page news title in the Pilot this time were; 1. 'Ibo Young man Sail to U.K.' Sept 23, 1938. Referring to Mr. Jaja Wachukwu, who later became Speaker of Houe of Rep. 2. '14th West African Student, 10th Nigerian, 8th Ibo in U.S.A.' Jan 28, 1939. The 8th Ibo was Mr. Nwafor Orizu, later became Senator. 3. 'Ibo Medical Student Passes Exam in 1st Class Honours.' June 26, 1940. That was Dr. S.O. Eguwatu. And some weird editorials like: 'The Ibo Are Coming' Dec 31, 1938, Wondered what ZIK meant, but the title is indicative enough of some theory of domination. These are but very few examples of deliberate actions of ZIK in portraying the perceived supremacy of the Ibos over others, for the Pilot never beamed the light on the achievements of Nigerians of other ethnic stock... For example, when the Ph.D. degree of London University, indeed any university for that matter, was conferred on the first Nigerian ever, such historic success was only given a small space in the paper and the title read: 'Nigerian Economist passes Ph.D. London', because that scholar was Dr. Fadipe, a Yoruba. https://twitter.com/LegendaryJoe/status/1639515371844542466?t=rKkNJdj8CJrPBPRFw_FMOQ&s=19[/quote] |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by raskymonojendor: 6:31pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
Below is one of the reasons why ibos are not much well loved by the Hausa/Fulani and the Yorubas.
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| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by happney65: 6:34pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
Naijaboy18:You are just beating around the bush. I keep on giving you evidences but you can't. Are you saying the Igbo do not have a right to vote for a candidate of their choice? I mean in a democracy? Are they even contesting in Lagos? Capital NO. They are not. The seats are all dominated by yorubas yet it is Igbo people you will be attacking with your hate and your devilish mind What exactly have they done? Have they gone on riots attacking Yoruba businesses in the SE. Capital No Have they done the same here too? No Did they say they will throw Yoruba people int the lagoon in the SE. NO So what exactly have they done. You can't point at anything as such but beating and crying puff where there is none. ![]() |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by raskymonojendor: 6:35pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
To also ensure that this is not just a Yoruba vs Ibo. It's Ibo VS the world ![]()
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| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Nobody: 6:39pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
happney65:They? It went from oba of Lagos to all Yorubas? You’re not a Yoruba. Imposter. I’ve already told you you’ve just ignored it which is not my problem |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by happney65: 6:42pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
Naijaboy18:You are the one with hate filled in your mind because if you were not you would have answered my simple question and showed me evidence of Igbo's doing the same thing our leadership has done to the but you haven't. Show me or shut up your dirty stinking mouth |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Nobody: 6:45pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
happney65:You’re a liar. You’re on the wrong side. End of story. Don’t mention me again |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by tonididdy(m): 6:48pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
It started a few months ago prior to the General Elections. The campaign strategies of the apc and LP candidates was highly tribalistic. I have being on NL for years and this year just birth a whole new level of tribalism. That doesn’t stop me from “sitting on the fence” and throwing stones at both sides randomly because I really do not give a 2cent if both tribes in “ genocidalize themselves |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by udede(m): 6:52pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
BOSSkesh:inukwa akuko. No go faint ooo. Hbp loading |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by yommen: 7:17pm On Sep 05, 2023*. Modified: 3:24am On Sep 06, 2023 |
Occurstaem:I remember that year Abiola died. We were living in GRA Ikeja. The place was an estate. I was in may be SS1. There were many kids in that estate that would play together. So I was with this Ibo boy, Larry that day. It was already announced earlier that Abiola had died. So I also mentioned it to the boy. His reply was 'Yes, Yorubas would always disappoint'. I that was in SS1, older than this boy would never have read any meaning to his comments because I was politically naive. He should be around 7-9 years of age then. He was 5th child in the family 7. Do you know that it was after I started reading comments from Ibos towards Yorubas on Nairaland recently that the boy's comment of about 25 years ago began to ring bell to me? I mean how could a boy of about 8 years come up with such a statement? The truth is his parents were saying similar things about Yorubas and that became his orientation. So it's no longer surprise to me what Ibos living in the east will say if a boy born and bread in a very developed place in Lagos said that 25 years ago. |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by sean079: 7:38pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
Ive met different kinds of ibo dat are my friend personally only one which I dont know his state but I guess he would be from anambra had the attitude of extreme comparision of ibo n yoruba. My other friend that have noticed come from other ibo state were not too care about comparing the two tribes. You can checkout Nigeria political landscape and its glaring dat politician from anambra hardly relate with Yoruba politician. They have inbuilt hatred and bitterness towards yoruba. |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Masterclass32: 7:41pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
Both are like water and oil - they can't mix. If Nigeria must be one, then the ideal type of structure should be regionalism. Let each region be truly independent, manage themselves and contribute to the centre. Otherwise, we should go for outright breakup. |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Benekkk: 7:42pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
It’s really ridiculous. Whoever’s manipulating them is doing a fantastic job! He’s second to none! |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by bjdon: 7:57pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
Just imagine how great Nigeria would be, if these to resourceful, and intelligent ethnic groups could unite and work together! If Youruba and Igbo united we would NEVER again have a brainless fulani bigot like Buhari as president. Even if it was the turn of the North, the 2 groups with their combined power would be able to ensure it's the right kind of Northerner that became president. it's really such a shame that both can't unite |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by United04: 8:11pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
updatechange:Who can hate more than children of Ogboni fraternity. |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by United04: 8:13pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
Tunde835:But OPC puts Yorubas in good light. Children of Ogboni fraternity. |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by raskymonojendor: 8:15pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
sean079:It's the ibos based in the SE. As a Yoruba man that have never visited the SE, I did not really understand the hatred until I moved to the UK for higher education. OMG, you could tell the difference between the Ibo guys that moved straight from the SE and the regular Ibo guy that had lived in Lagos, Ibadan or anywhere in the SW before moving to the UK. The SWesternised ibos were liberal unlike the conservative ones that moved straight to the UK from Nigeria.. The ones usually from the SE are always angry at yorubas. They would try to avoid you or relate with you. Then they slowly start opening up when they realise Yorubas are not what they have been told back home in alaibo. Even check the ones causing problems in Lagos now are the Nwa boys or JJC that just moved to Lagos. Yorubas rarely have any issues with an Ibo person born and bred in the SW. They are also the ones that inter-marry. This is why APGA under Peter Obi weaponized the hate of Yorubas (Awo and Tinubu) during his time in APGA. He knows the average Ibo man based in the SE hates the Yoruba due to the hateful programming they must have gone through from birth.
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| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Jeyun: 8:21pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
updatechange:that open gutter wey u just shit put finish so u sure sey u clean your yansh. U better shut that your gutter mouth before u take am kill people with smell |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Jeyun: 8:23pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
jahsharon:u don shit for open gutter today. OPC dirty terrorist |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by BentizilL: 8:24pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
goodnessme1:You're an hypocrite... The only tribe that was taught to hate the Yoruba are Igbo.. I'm from Benin and grew up in Lagos with almost equal Igbo and Yoruba friends. I've witness first hand how an Igbo woman was demonizing and teaching her child nonsense about yoruba.. I live close to both and I can tell you that yoruba don't do that.. |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Chiefpriestt: 8:25pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
BOSSkesh:Yoruba Muslims are the most despicable humans in Nigeria. They are not humans |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Brek: 8:25pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
justtoodark:Idiopathic clown Get out of my mentions |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by jude79(m): 8:25pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
This is the problem, one is real progressive, the other is propaganda progressive.
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| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Brek: 8:26pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
Ofemmanu1:Yourubas deserve to burn in the hottest place in hell that's a fact |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Brek: 8:26pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
updatechange:Like how you idiots claimed that Nnamdi Kanu was dead? Like how you clowns said UK designated IPOB as a Terrorist organisation? |
| Re: What Is Really The Problem Between The Yorubas And The Igbos? by Brek: 8:28pm On Sep 05, 2023 |
raskymonojendor:Idiot in china they hate all blacks |
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