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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 12:56pm On Sep 07, 2023
izzou:


I understand

I am just typing if for the Nigerians that would come here and hypocritically type "Hold your leaders accountable".

You'll start to wonder if they are living in the Multiverse version of Nigeria.

Same thing I said here

Itsrm:


It's the way you lump all of us together cheesy

We did not agree to look away. What can we possibly do to these leaders? All the institutions including NLC and the courts are broken. Law enforcement agencies na no go area. If you even go out to protest and you die, otilo.


Though I just read today from this threads number one keyboard warrior that it's all part of the struggle if we go out to protest and die cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:56pm On Sep 07, 2023
larride:


You still don't get it. Do you?

At every polling unit, every party agent was given a copy of the result for that unit. A copy is also given to the police attached to the polling unit which means it's not only INEC that has the result from the polling unit, all the party agents are meant to have their own result signed by all the party agent and INEC polling officer from the polling unit in their possession including the police. Nothing is shrouded in secrecy.

If you are claiming that what INEC released is rigged or not correct, you have to produce the one with you that's duly signed at the polling unit to show that's what you score. That's how you prove something at the election tribunal. Except you want to prove overvoting or stuffing of the ballot boxes (which the BVAS has eliminated anyways), you really do not need INEC own copies for anything as long as the result copies with you are duly signed at the polling units.

The moment you challenge an election result, inec is automatically the defendant in the case, they have the right under law to defend the result they put out.

It's very straightforward for anyone who wants to think

Results from all polling units are colllated to get the final numbers

At every polling units all party agents get a copy and they can forward to their party collation center to compare with INEC

LP agents all over Nigeria got their copy

Then present your copies which should match the ones other party, INEC and police got and let's compare how you got your numbers

For you to prove something is fake you have to show what the original looks like

What did Obi present as the original

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:58pm On Sep 07, 2023
izzou:


Obi joined LP in June, and without any strong politician on his team, he got 6 million.

With the army on BAT's team, he got 8 million, not forgetting he spent the last 16 years on that party.

Nothing concern me with who be governor or not.
Was Obi not in existence as a politician before June?

So we can say Buhari in one year defeated Jonathan because he joined APC?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 12:58pm On Sep 07, 2023
izzou:


But Nigeria is a funny place sha grin

So, the stunt that was pulled in Rivers during the presidential elections just went like that..
Obi' lawyer didn't protest it

The biggest culprit here is the lawyers. They should be beaten blue and black. The case was bad enough but also badly prepared.

They needed to convince the judges that there was suppression. They failed to provide an independent expert instead producing a report. The judges rightfully had to ask if a book can be cross examined.

They failed to bring party agents who were beaten and disenfranchised in Rivers to testify along with police /hospital report (I recall seeing injuries). They failed to produce evidence of suppression and rigging that is enough just to get a dissenting judge.


They literally did nothing and the more I look at it, it seems they sabotaged OBi or Labor party has been settled by Tinubu
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:58pm On Sep 07, 2023
Itsrm:


Same thing I said here

Though I just read today from this threads number one keyboard warrior that it's all part of the struggle if we go out to protest and die cheesy

NLC president (Keyboard Unit)

grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:00pm On Sep 07, 2023
Nostradamus1:
Obi' lawyer didn't protest it

The biggest culprit here is the lawyers. They should be beaten blue and black. The case was bad enough but also badly prepared.

They needed to convince the judges that there was suppression. They failed to provide an independent expert instead producing a report. The judges rightfully had to ask if a book can be cross examined.

They failed to bring party agents who were beaten and disenfranchised in Rivers to testify along with police /hospital report (I recall seeing injuries). They failed to produce evidence of suppression and rigging that is enough just to get a dissenting judge.


They literally did nothing and the more I look at it, it seems they sabotaged OBi or Labor party has been settled by Tinubu

My comment was based on an argument we had here sometime ago.

I don't think you were active here that time.

It wasn't really about Obi and the Tribunal
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:00pm On Sep 07, 2023
izzou:


I understand

I am just typing if for the Nigerians that would come here and hypocritically type "Hold your leaders accountable".

You'll start to wonder if they are living in the Multiverse version of Nigeria.

This election result represents the wishes of Nigerians. 8m want Tinubu, 6m wanted Obi

If more Nigerians preferred Tinubu to Obi then hold Tinubu accountable

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 1:02pm On Sep 07, 2023
izzou:


NLC president (Keyboard Unit)

grin

😂😂
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:03pm On Sep 07, 2023
raumdeuter:

Was Obi not in existence as a politician before June?

So we can say Buhari in one year defeated Jonathan because he joined APC?

Buhari tried more than once to become President

He kept merging his factions and party till it got to APC

Obi has never been a presidential contestant till June.

The man left the 2nd biggest party in the country, joined a nobody and fell 2 million short of the winner.

The difference is right there. I don't know what you are bringing big big grammer for.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:03pm On Sep 07, 2023
raumdeuter:


This election result represents the wishes of Nigerians. 8m want Tinubu, 6m wanted Obi

If more Nigerians preferred Tinubu to Obi then hold Tinubu accountable

You really do not understand what i typed.

Itsrm understands me.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 1:05pm On Sep 07, 2023
larride:


You still don't get it. Do you?

At every polling unit, every party agent was given a copy of the result for that unit. A copy is also given to the police attached to the polling unit which means it's not only INEC that has the result from the polling unit, all the party agents are meant to have their own result signed by all the party agent and INEC polling officer from the polling unit in their possession including the police. Nothing is shrouded in secrecy.

If you are claiming that what INEC released is rigged or not correct, you have to produce the one with you that's duly signed at the polling unit to show that's what you score. That's how you prove something at the election tribunal. Except you want to prove overvoting or stuffing of the ballot boxes (which the BVAS has eliminated anyways), you really do not need INEC own copies for anything as long as the result copies with you are duly signed at the polling units.

The moment you challenge an election result, inec is automatically the defendant in the case, they have the right under law to defend the result they put out.

To further show you that they know how stupid their case was.

During Collation in Lagos, the wrong figure was used by INEC, the LP Officer at the level protested immediately with evidence(LP result sheet) and the result was corrected. Obidients praised her thoroughly


Why did Obidients suddenly start looking to INEC for correct Result sheets?

Why did all Obidient Officers at the Collation level sign the rigged results unlike the Lagos Lady?

Why can't LP provide the correct sheet just like the Lagos Lady?



You see this thing called structure, they will learn it by force. Elections finished and agents used result sheet to chop akara (probably after sending the correct result on WhatsApp or the FB page created by LP over 48 hours later). First time of hearing that 2 parties are merging agents😂😂

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by vanitybutiwanti: 1:10pm On Sep 07, 2023
Ibime:


Heaven would have fallen. He's from a minority tribe and had too many bigwigs against him. Only bigwigs in his corner were Wike and Akpabio
Many people don't understand Nigeria politics, Tinubu comes from a majority tribe and his people seems to be in support of him, even the ones that never supported him deep down are predisposed to his presidency. In Nigeria if you come from a majority tribe, you can get away with a lot of things. If it was wike, GEJ or Akpabio, they would have revolted against them and forced them out because they come from the minority.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by vanitybutiwanti: 1:15pm On Sep 07, 2023
Obi supporters can cry and threaten fire and brimstone, man pass man and Tinubu is ahead of obi by a mile in all ramifications. Have you noticed that the power brokers and elder statesmen are all mute, why? Because it's Tinubu, he has the clout to pull off what he just did. As long as he's alive, he'll do 8 years. Obi can come back later if he can retain his base till 2031 or 2039. By that time, he'd have gotten that clout as an OG.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 1:17pm On Sep 07, 2023
izzou:


But Nigeria is a funny place sha grin

So, the stunt that was pulled in Rivers during the presidential elections just went like that..
na that one weak me pass sad
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 1:24pm On Sep 07, 2023
Nostradamus1:
Obi' lawyer didn't protest it

The biggest culprit here is the lawyers. They should be beaten blue and black. The case was bad enough but also badly prepared.

They needed to convince the judges that there was suppression. They failed to provide an independent expert instead producing a report. The judges rightfully had to ask if a book can be cross examined.

They failed to bring party agents who were beaten and disenfranchised in Rivers to testify along with police /hospital report (I recall seeing injuries). They failed to produce evidence of suppression and rigging that is enough just to get a dissenting judge.


They literally did nothing and the more I look at it, it seems they sabotaged OBi or Labor party has been settled by Tinubu

I remember educating that mumu spy360 that Obi lawyers were stupid for bringing a labour party member/candidate as an expert witness. That alone showed those lawyers deserve to be taken to Ogbete market and flogged mercilessly, by all the masquerades in Enugu.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeadPresidents: 1:27pm On Sep 07, 2023
izzou:


I understand

I am just typing if for the Nigerians that would come here and hypocritically type "Hold your leaders accountable".

You'll start to wonder if they are living in the Multiverse version of Nigeria.

Anybody wey ask me to, "hold your leaders accountable" go fly reach Madrid to see Arda after I give am Güler

Either that or him go collect flying nodding. Hold which leaders accountable? The ones you nor elect grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:33pm On Sep 07, 2023
DeadPresidents:


Anybody wey ask me to, "hold your leaders accountable" go fly reach Madrid to see Arda after I give am Güler

Either that or him go collect flying nodding. Hold which leaders accountable? The ones you nor elect grin

grin grin grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 1:44pm On Sep 07, 2023
airmark:


I remember educating that mumu spy360 that Obi lawyers were stupid for bringing a labour party member/candidate as an expert witness. That alone showed those lawyers deserve to be taken to Ogbete market and flogged mercilessly, by all the masquerades in Enugu.

Anyone who seriously looks at the case starts wondering if the lawyers deceived OBi.

The gap between the APC and LP results is around 2m. Get enough actual suppression evidence from Rivers state which has about 2m registered voters. Look for evidence of suppression or manipulation in 2 or 3 extra states where a rerun will favor LP heavily (Delta, Edo) . Concentrate and push on these 3 or 4 states. Some police officers attached to PUs were beaten in Rivers. Get them to testify for you.

The lawyers were bought. Nothing anyone got tell me

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 1:46pm On Sep 07, 2023
Ibime:


Heaven would have fallen. He's from a minority tribe and had too many bigwigs against him. Only bigwigs in his corner were Wike and Akpabio
This is why GEJ always caved in to pressures.

He was too soft, Tinubu and co saw it and took advantage, playing politics with the lives of Nigerians.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 2:09pm On Sep 07, 2023
raumdeuter:

At every polling units all party agents get a copy and they can forward to their party collation center to compare with INEC

LP agents all over Nigeria got their copy

Then present your copies which should match the ones other party, INEC and police got and let's compare how you got your numbers

LP don't have that structure

In many places they were missing agents

In places were they had agents (except for SE), their agents were easily compromised by money or intimidation

Common N200k will get most LP agents to sign off at PU. If they form strong head like DonJ, imagine when Ateke boys hit the PU and offer them silver or lead

It comes back to "structure"

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Incognito9: 2:15pm On Sep 07, 2023
Emaprince:
Let's get back to making dolla 500 and fuel 300 atleast.

If this happens, Tinubu will get more support massively.

But na naija...and these leaders are selfish looters. So that hope is a pipe dream.


1 dollar to hit 1000 soon
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:22pm On Sep 07, 2023
Ibime:


LP don't have that structure

In many places they were missing agents

In places were they had agents (except for SE), their agents were easily compromised by money or intimidation

Common N200k will get most LP agents to sign off at PU. If they form strong head like DonJ, imagine when Ateke boys hit the PU and offer them silver or lead

It comes back to "structure"


Silver or no head you mean

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 2:29pm On Sep 07, 2023
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 2:32pm On Sep 07, 2023
Ibime:


LP don't have that structure

In many places they were missing agents

In places were they had agents (except for SE), their agents were easily compromised by money or intimidation

Common N200k will get most LP agents to sign off at PU. If they form strong head like DonJ, imagine when Ateke boys hit the PU and offer them silver or lead

It comes back to "structure"


Even that, each polling agent is still meant to have a copy of the result.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:34pm On Sep 07, 2023
GloriousGbola:


Silver or no head you mean

Reading this, I didn't know whether to interpret the "no head" as in sexual innuendo of no Mouth Action (knowing you) or no head as in physical violent decapitation of my head. Curious to know which you had in mind. cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 2:35pm On Sep 07, 2023
raumdeuter:


It's very straightforward for anyone who wants to think

Results from all polling units are colllated to get the final numbers

At every polling units all party agents get a copy and they can forward to their party collation center to compare with INEC

LP agents all over Nigeria got their copy

Then present your copies which should match the ones other party, INEC and police got and let's compare how you got your numbers

For you to prove something is fake you have to show what the original looks like

What did Obi present as the original

The problem is they do not have enough agent on ground and didnt even have an election data centre sef to quickly tabulate and monitor results as they are trickling in from the polling units.

From the night of the election, all parties are already knowing where and where they are going to litigate to win at the tribunal.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:36pm On Sep 07, 2023
How atheists always feel in nigeria.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 2:38pm On Sep 07, 2023
Best movies of the year so far. I've seen just 4.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:39pm On Sep 07, 2023
donjazzet:
How atheists always feel in nigeria.

Seeing you grew up in a religious family, how did they handle it when you told them you are now an atheist?

How has the journey been?

I sometimes imagine how it would be for Nigerian atheists
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:40pm On Sep 07, 2023
donjazzet:
Best movies of the year so far. I've seen just 4.

Barbie shocked me.

I didn't enjoy Mission Impossible at all.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:43pm On Sep 07, 2023
donjazzet:


Reading this, I didn't know whether to interpret the "no head" as in sexual innuendo of no Mouth Action (knowing you) or no head as in physical violent decapitation of my head. Curious to know which you had in mind. cheesy

Decapitation na.

It has always been wicked wikes trademark
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 2:45pm On Sep 07, 2023
Obi had no case? I stated this in March.

It was also long before the issue of Senate Presidency was mentioned.

DissTroy:


Yet idiots came like bees seeking DissTróy when the results were announced. We've even confirmed there was violence in those places Akpabio gave Tinubu votes. Paid thugs brandishing matchetes from LGAs bordering Abia State.

I who saw many things told them the results were rigged and rewritten but they argued. We've checked INEC IReV and it's not adding up. Election result figures from my polling unit was cropped out but we have the real snapped result.


I just confirmed hours ago. Same issue. There were thousands of such cases. Whatever was retrieved from such a portal would be inconsistent and inaccurate.

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