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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:29am On Sep 07, 2023
budaatum:
You obviously lack the ability to understand I chose two where the confessions were untrue to show you why we just don't take people's word for it and why evidence is important bas, but I guess you at least try a tiny bit harder than stupid idiot who doesn't even acknowledge a brain is in his own head.
My opinion on murder without a body was contextual. Trump has to provide evidence that the state/ FBI is hiding to prove his innocence.
The house committee investigating Hunter and JB are tasked with finding the treasonous evidence that the FBI and DOJ is hiding.
Rudy Giuliani is about to get his damages suit determined by a jury because he could not provide his electronic devices to Ruby Freeman. Why he could not provide them? The FBI confiscated them leaving only. a copy of Hunter Biden laptop which he told them contains CP.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:50pm On Sep 07, 2023
bemeruca:
Hahahaha. So tell me why your fact check has a claim basilico was not disputing?

Who argued that tario was not the leader of proud boys?
Basilico: Tarrio got a longer Sentence because he is black. Dems hate black people. [more nutter nonsense].
Judge who handed down sentence: Tarrio got a longer sentence because he was the leader and organizer. 22 years for Tarrio, 17 and 15 years for the other 2.
IjeBos: Tarrio was the leader [and that was the reason he got a longer sentence.]
benalvino_benalvino2_benalvino3_bemeruca: Bringing up that Tarrio was the leader is a Strawman. (undecided scratching head)

Again, you prove my earlier point. Your mental deficiencies are only matched by your ability to endlessly argue something you are wrong about. A smarter person would have moved on by now.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca:
IjeBos:
Basilico: Tarrio got a longer Sentence because he is black. Dems hate black people. [more nutter nonsense].
Judge who handed down sentence: Tarrio got a longer sentence because he was the leader and organizer. 22 years for Tarrio, 17 and 15 years for the other 2.
IjeBos: Tarrio was the leader [and that was the reason he got a longer sentence.]
benalvino_benalvino2_benalvino3_bemeruca: Bringing up that Tarrio was the leader is a Strawman. (undecided scratching head)

Again, you prove my earlier point. Your mental deficiencies are only matched by your ability to endlessly argue something you are wrong about. A smarter person would have moved on by now.
FACT CHECK: this is his original statement

IjeBos:
Fact Check
1.) Tarro was the leader of the Proud Boys. Also, the US government has an incentive for making the penalty for insurrection and such crimes involving overthrowing the government very tough. Hence the death penalty for something like treason. And hence the 22 years Tarro received.
Lying POS 🤣

Try again. Do another one grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
IjeBos:
Basilico: Tarrio got a longer Sentence because he is black. Dems hate black people. more nutter nonsense
Utter nonsense. This was exactly what I wrote

Shooting yourself in the foot. Tarro
is black. He never showed up at
the Capitol.He gets the worst
sentence, murderers get less
In Georgia, the black guy indicted
by Fanny (sp ) was thrown in for
five days..He was a flight risk/ Or
could not afford a lawyer. I can't
tell.
Democrats ( plus Ijeboss& Co)
hate blacks who support Trump.
You omitted the bolded to make a stupid point.
I quote exactly how put it..Context matters.
Do you mind declaring your love and admiration for Dr. Carson.
I presume you hate Candace Owens and Kanye West too.

***SNIP*** You have posted here about Republicans choosing a token black .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:49pm On Sep 07, 2023
bemeruca:
FACT CHECK: this is his original statement



Lying POS 🤣

Try again. Do another one grin
Yes, let me.

1.) The part in [ ] "[ and that was the reason he got a longer sentence. ]" is the inference derived from the statement "Tarrio was the leader" .
I thought it was unnecessary to have to spell it out... But clearly some us (you) need basic concepts spelled out.

2.) My statement had 2 parts both meant to rebut basilico's nonsensical statements.
Part 1: "Tarro was the leader of the Proud Boys." - was used to explain why he got a heftier jail time in comparison to the other defendants.

Part 2: "Also, the US government has an incentive for making the penalty for insurrection and such crimes involving overthrowing the government very tough. Hence the death penalty for something like treason. And hence the 22 years Tarro received" - was used to explain the length in the sentence in comparison to other crimes . i.e. the US has to take a strong deterrent stance on trying to bring down the country/government.

Let me know if you want me to diagram it for you. Honestly, the more you keep typing the dumber you sound. If you knew shame you'd feel embarrassed. But your posts here show no such ability for self reflection. Know your strengths; logical reasoning/thinking isn't one.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 3:56pm On Sep 07, 2023
IjeBos:
If he doesn't plead down, I'm convinced he will be convicted on some if not all the charges. I've sat on a couple of juries, and from what I've seen jurors generally want to do the right thing and follow the law. The question I have is what happens after will he go to jail or will they give him house arrest of some sort.
You are right. If he doesn't plead, he will be jailed and will lose a lot more than his already failing scams.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:02pm On Sep 07, 2023
basilico:
Utter nonsense. This was exactly what I wrote



You omitted the bolded to make a stupid point.
I quote exactly how put it..Context matters.
Do you mind declaring your love and admiration for Dr. Carson.
I presume you hate Candace Owens and Kanye West too.

***SNIP*** You have posted here about Republicans choosing a token black .
I hate stupid people and people who use their positions to enrich themselves at the expense of others esp. their own race.
I hope that sentence wasn't too complex for you.
It may help you figure why I don't interact with you here.

Real question though? Why is it that the same Republicans, who crow endlessly about black people using the race card, but the secound anything negative happens to a black Republican, they'll complain incessantly about Dems purposefully targeting black Republicans?
I go through life in the US and have to rationalize all the negative experiences I have at the hands of white people to discern if it was really racism at play. When 10 cops surrounded my friends and I guns ablaze going back to my apartment in an expensive (white) part of Boston. We had to go through all the reasons they might have had (were we doing anything?, did we give them a reason?), before settling on yeah it was racist.
But a black leader of a Violent insurrection group tries to overthrow the US government in an attempted COUP? It's the Demarcatic party targeting him because he is black. You can miss me with that bullsh*t.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:16pm On Sep 07, 2023
And just to drive home this point.
This is the offer the proud boys received if they plead out and also the sentencing guideline for what the crimes called for. And lastly a chart that puts it all together.
I'm sure some Republican (Law and Order) type who is now complaining the sentence is too harsh, helped come up with the guidelines.
And it's not lost on me that if this was a poor black person without the Right Wing Media on their side for another crime, they would have gotten something closet to the guideline.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 5:06pm On Sep 07, 2023
basilico:
More black people are killed/shot by democrats than repubs.
Democrat policies have resulted in more deadly drugs. While Biden stopped the border wall and flung the gates open, drug cartels have upped their game of drug smuggling and human trafficking. Those are the democrats you defend .
LoLz. You must deflect shaaa. Can't you remain on topic? We are talking of defending your property or business from intruders. Stick to that.




They were not blocking a theatre where life saving surgeries are done, they wanted to prevent babies from premeditated murder. What a heinous crime they did
This clinic was advertising abortion upto 27 weeks. I suggest you read up on how the D&C is performed. They cut up the babies head and pull the remains out with forceps or a vacuum pump. They use a kinder term..dilation and evacuation I must add
If you like block a strip club as far as you run foul of the law you are liable. Meanwhile this same Lauren Handy was caught keeping five fetuses in her home. Please tell me what an anti-abortionist is doing with 5 fetuses.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:51pm On Sep 07, 2023
basilico:
Trump has to provide evidence that the state/ FBI is hiding to prove his innocence.
Do you seriously believe the FBI would hide evidence, bas?

Tell me, what happens when a dump supporter wins election and gets to be in charge of FBI, does he hide stuff from dump too?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
IjeBos:
I hate stupid people and people who use their positions to enrich themselves at the expense of others esp. their own race.
I hope that sentence wasn't too complex for you.
It may help you figure why I don't interact with you here.

Real question though? Why is it that the same Republicans, who crow endlessly about black people using the race card, but the secound anything negative happens to a black Republican, they'll complain incessantly about Dems purposefully targeting black Republicans?
I go through life in the US and have to rationalize all the negative experiences I have at the hands of white people to discern if it was really racism at play. When 10 cops surrounded my friends and I guns ablaze going back to my apartment in an expensive (white) part of Boston. We had to go through all the reasons they might have had (were we doing anything?, did we give them a reason?), before settling on yeah it was racist.
But a black leader of a Violent insurrection group tries to overthrow the US government in an attempted COUP? It's the Demarcatic party targeting him because he is black. You can miss me with that bullsh*t.
We all know who is stupid . You defend leftist absurdities that I keep bringing up, I understand that you are a brainwashed character.
The worst evils are by the left, who happen to be demonrats.
You are in a white majority country And you know they will never treat you as equal..Going through life hoping to be loved by the whites, never gonna happen unless you are a celebrity.
Brainwashing. The proud boys are not a violent group. They were the whites who dared fight back against your BLM terrorists. We're they involved in an insurrection. Lookup the dictionary please. The left has demonized the protesters as regime change happy group. The trials are stage managed. This will jolt you back one day when the truth about Jan 6 is out. I have made my comments about that on so many occasions. There it's said more than 100 plain clothes among the feds urging hapless people to go "Into the Capitol".. Ray Epps words.Pelosi turned down National Guard days earlier remember.There was no coup, just an alternate slate of electors like the ones of JFK If you don't have amnesia.
Biden admin is as bad as the Stasi, KGB or the Brown shirts.
One day when you peel of the scales covering your eyes...
Your username hates Trump supporters, especially the black ones.Maybe you post under drugs ?
Finally how many people have been indicted on insurrection charges? Zero.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:18pm On Sep 07, 2023
LordReed:
LoLz. You must deflect shaaa. Can't you remain on topic? We are talking of defending your property or business from intruders. Stick to that.






If you like block a strip club as far as you run foul of the law you are liable. Meanwhile this same Lauren Handy was caught keeping five fetuses in her home. Please tell me what an anti-abortionist is doing with 5 fetuses.
She is creepy. keeping 5 foetuses in her fridge.
Top search item on Google when you search her name.
Actually she said she had 115. 110 of them were buried in a private cemetery after a priest said prayers for them. The other five she had according to her, proof that the clinic was lying about the ages they abort.
Very creepy to me all the same. I was thinking she would be charged for that. Turns out they had got them from a medical waste truck driver loading some bio hazard boxes outside an abortion clinic in DC.

All the same does that warrant them 11 years? A simple exclusion order from the murder factory would have been enough to let the baby slaughter go on without pesky christians nosing around. I think we can agree on that..

You are just a pathetic figure.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:30pm On Sep 07, 2023
budaatum:
Do you seriously believe the FBI would hide evidence, bas?

Tell me, what happens when a dump supporter wins election and gets to be in charge of FBI, does he hide stuff from dump too?
FBI had been in possession of an FD-1023 filed in 2019 , which detailed Burisma owner paying $5m each to Joe Biden and Hunter to get rid of the Ukrainian Prosecutor.
They handed it over this year to a House Committee once they knew the committee already had it from the whistleblowers.
I would say the FBi was not hiding the corruption evidence by the Bidens.

They also had and still do have Hunters laptop but they went ahead to lie that it was Russian propaganda. That's safe keeping it from those who think Joe Biden is a national traitor. Not hiding evidence eh?

Don't forget FBI knew Hillary Clinton started the Russia collusion hoax, knew that she paid Cris Steele for the junk dossier.Yet they went ahead to investigate Trump, spy on him And jail everyone they could on anything..but never on collusion
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:04pm On Sep 07, 2023
What would you call Obi if he behaved like dump did?

Nigeria's Appeal Court has rejected challenges to Bola Tinubu's narrow victory in February's presidential election.

After an almost 10-hour verdict, judges said the petitions by his two main challengers were without merit.

Both Atiku Abubakar of the Peoples Democratic Party and Peter Obi of the Labour Party had alleged widespread fraud.

Despite the election challenge, Mr Tinubu was sworn into office on 29 May.

The election was the most fiercely contested since the end of military rule in 1999, with three strong candidates for the first time. Mr Tinubu won with 37% of votes cast, against 29% for Mr Abubakar and 25% for Mr Obi.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-66727354
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:05pm On Sep 07, 2023
IjeBos:
And just to drive home this point.
This is the offer the proud boys received if they plead out and also the sentencing guideline for what the crimes called for. And lastly a chart that puts it all together.
I'm sure some Republican (Law and Order) type who is now complaining the sentence is too harsh, helped come up with the guidelines.
And it's not lost on me that if this was a poor black person without the Right Wing Media on their side for another crime, they would have gotten something closet to the guideline.
What was the plea deal for? Accuse others of having planned the whole Fed setup In order to jail/ bar them from.running?
Prosecutors thrive on plea deals to rank highly on successful convictions.
This case is very sordid. The feds nowadays use conspiracy, look through your social media and phone calls for anything to pin on a plan to take action

Just seen this. Tarro had been asked by FBI to lie about Trump




“Everything they wanted me to say is
fabricated,” said Tarrio. “It was a lie. I
refused to sign their work of fiction. I
want to be unequivocally clear- I have
no connection to President Trump or
anyone in his family whatsoever. The
connection simply just does NOT exist
and never did. They literally wanted
me to lie.”



.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 9:57pm On Sep 07, 2023
basilico:
She is creepy. keeping 5 foetuses in her fridge.
Top search item on Google when you search her name.
Actually she said she had 115. 110 of them were buried in a private cemetery after a priest said prayers for them. The other five she had according to her, proof that the clinic was lying about the ages they abort.
Very creepy to me all the same. I was thinking she would be charged for that. Turns out they had got them from a medical waste truck driver loading some bio hazard boxes outside an abortion clinic in DC.

All the same does that warrant them 11 years? A simple exclusion order from the murder factory would have been enough to let the baby slaughter go on without pesky christians nosing around. I think we can agree on that..

You are just a pathetic figure.
LoLz. They broke the law but I am the pathetic one? You don Kolo. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:59pm On Sep 07, 2023
Saudi have extended their production cuts by 1m BPD till December, will be reviewing the cuts monthly. Russia has cut off 300k BPD too in tandem.
Joe Biden has effectively banned oil drilling on 13 million acres of land in Alaska.
Oil prices rose to above $90 per barrel this week
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:14pm On Sep 07, 2023
LordReed:
LoLz. They broke the law but I am the pathetic one? You don Kolo. Bwahahahahaha!
11 years. Blocking an entrance to a murder factory earns you 11 years.
How about burning down a church?
Quick Search.. Sone guy got 25 years for burning 3 black churches, another in Surrey got 2 years,. Tennessee man got 7 years,a church was awarded $1m after Proud Boys burnt a BLM banner taken away from their compound.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 6:36am On Sep 08, 2023
basilico:
11 years. Blocking an entrance to a murder factory earns you 11 years.
How about burning down a church?
Quick Search.. Sone guy got 25 years for burning 3 black churches, another in Surrey got 2 years,. Tennessee man got 7 years,a church was awarded $1m after Proud Boys burnt a BLM banner taken away from their compound.
And your conclusion is? You should receive a slap on the wrist for breaking the law?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 7:42am On Sep 08, 2023
basilico:
FBI had been in possession of an FD-1023 filed in 2019 , which detailed Burisma owner paying $5m each to Joe Biden and Hunter to get rid of the Ukrainian Prosecutor.
They handed it over this year to a House Committee once they knew the committee already had it from the whistleblowers.
I would say the FBi was not hiding the corruption evidence by the Bidens.

They also had and still do have Hunters laptop but they went ahead to lie that it was Russian propaganda. That's safe keeping it from those who think Joe Biden is a national traitor. Not hiding evidence eh?

Don't forget FBI knew Hillary Clinton started the Russia collusion hoax, knew that she paid Cris Steele for the junk dossier.Yet they went ahead to investigate Trump, spy on him And jail everyone they could on anything..but never on collusion
Bwahahahahahaha! Why do you lie to yourself so much. FBI gave a Republican Congress evidence that Biden, a Democrat President, took bribe and they haven't done anything about it. LMFAO!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:48pm On Sep 08, 2023
There seems to be a growing concern with Elon Musk in the US. In a recent news report, it claims he shut down Star Link satellites Ukrainiums used right before they were to attack Russian warships. The drones used to attack the ships floated back to shore without any means to control them.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/07/elon-musk-ordered-starlink-turned-off-ukraine-offensive-biography

I'm interested in hearing more of both sides of the situation including the supposed Musk's supposed Ethical issues with using Star Link for war purposes (though I believe he does sell it to the US military). I would think given the fact he has been seen cozying up to Russia and his recent love affair with Republicans (his "Vote Republican" tweet), that anyone supposedly concerned about Hunter Biden's "influence", would be a hell of lot more concerned with Elon Musk's.

Good tweet about it
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1699865935920705545

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:04pm On Sep 08, 2023
basilico:
<...nutter nonsense..>
Your last few posts have been especially nutty and demented. Your mind is in a distressed and broken place.
It's worse that I hope this is an act you are being paid for.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:05pm On Sep 08, 2023
LordReed:
Bwahahahahahaha! Why do you lie to yourself so much. FBI gave a Republican Congress evidence that Biden, a Democrat President, took bribe and they haven't done anything about it. LMFAO!
I can't tell whether you are trolling it just olian ignorant and not knowing anything.
A Confidential Human Source credible to FBI gave an account to them if a talk he had with the owner of Burisma. The owner of Burisma told him that Biden and his son Hunter had each received $5m to stop the Ukraine Prosecutor from investigating him and Burisma.The owner Burisma said he had records if phone calls , two with Joe Biden and 13(15) with Hunter.

FBI had that official record which they were stonewalling , refused to investigate.Were forced to hand it over to Comer eventually. These are the documents besides the 176 SAR the House plus whistleblowers testimony to impeach Joe Biden.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:05pm On Sep 08, 2023
LordReed:
LoLz. They broke the law but I am the pathetic one? You don Kolo. Bwahahahahaha!
His same logic is how we have Sharia Law in the North.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 3:51pm On Sep 08, 2023
basilico:
I can't tell whether you are trolling it just olian ignorant and not knowing anything.
A Confidential Human Source credible to FBI gave an account to them if a talk he had with the owner of Burisma. The owner of Burisma told him that Biden and his son Hunter had each received $5m to stop the Ukraine Prosecutor from investigating him and Burisma.The owner Burisma said he had records if phone calls , two with Joe Biden and 13(15) with Hunter.

FBI had that official record which they were stonewalling , refused to investigate.Were forced to hand it over to Comer eventually. These are the documents besides the 176 SAR the House plus whistleblowers testimony to impeach Joe Biden.
So what are they waiting for? Biden's second term? LMFAO! Keep lying to yourself.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:15pm On Sep 08, 2023
Curious to read the report and understand why Fani Willis chose not to indict them.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/georgia-special-grand-jury-report-public_n_64fb2e97e4b0f847718b572f

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:31pm On Sep 08, 2023
LordReed:
So what are they waiting for? Biden's second term? LMFAO! Keep lying to yourself.
The democrats impeached Trump because he wanted that $5m bribe investigated.
Clearly the impeachment was an obstruction of justice into Biden treasonous actions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:41pm On Sep 08, 2023
IjeBos:
Curious to read the report and understand why Fani Willis chose not to indict them.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/georgia-special-grand-jury-report-public_n_64fb2e97e4b0f847718b572f
HuffPost is your believable source really. No wonder you are just a crackpot.
I am more interested in the exculpatory evidence Fanny gathered , or rather never gave to the jury.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 4:43pm On Sep 08, 2023
basilico:
The democrats impeached Trump because he wanted that $5m bribe investigated.
Clearly the impeachment was an obstruction of justice into Biden treasonous actions.
LMFAO! Guy keep lying to yourself.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:33pm On Sep 08, 2023
LordReed:
LMFAO! Guy keep lying to yourself.
Correct me on this.
Joe Biden was bribed with $5m by Burisma owner , paid through shell companies.( To evade taxes).
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 5:47pm On Sep 08, 2023
basilico:
Correct me on this.
Joe Biden was not bribed with $5m by Burisma owner , paid through shell companies.( To evade taxes).
Just tell your Republican congress people to get off their arses. LoLz!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:17pm On Sep 08, 2023
IjeBos:
There seems to be a growing concern with Elon Musk in the US. In a recent news report, it claims he shut down Star Link satellites Ukrainiums used right before they were to attack Russian warships. The drones used to attack the ships floated back to shore without any means to control them.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/07/elon-musk-ordered-starlink-turned-off-ukraine-offensive-biography

I'm interested in hearing more of both sides of the situation including the supposed Musk's supposed Ethical issues with using Star Link for war purposes (though I believe he does sell it to the US military). I would think given the fact he has been seen cozying up to Russia and his recent love affair with Republicans (his "Vote Republican" tweet), that anyone supposedly concerned about Hunter Biden's "influence", would be a hell of lot more concerned with Elon Musk's.

Good tweet about it
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1699865935920705545
Jobless emu spreading lies again. Token emu with no agency... Hate Thomas - coon hates Thomas. Hate elon, Mindless drone that is ijebos hates elon. Lol get busy emu.
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