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Emusan:
When we say you people hate Jesus it will be like we're exaggerating.

Now the fact is before you but you're still beating about the bush.

2 Corin 8:9 says Jesus is rich which makes Him the richest in the Bible.

Show me where the Bible says Jehovah is rich!

Now storyteller has started peddling his story story

You know His Father owns everything yet you rush to claim Adam is the richest.

Talking about material possessions Adam is the richest but as for the spirit realms Jehovah is the richest.
Do you agree?

Ole riches!

Emusan:
When we say you people hate Jesus it will be like we're exaggerating.

Now the fact is before you but you're still beating about the bush.

2 Corin 8:9 says Jesus is rich which makes Him the richest in the Bible.

Show me where the Bible says Jehovah is rich!

Now storyteller has started peddling his story story

You know His Father owns everything yet you rush to claim Adam is the richest.

Proof that jws are demons.

Imagine the stupid demon said worship of God is bad.

JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS.

Emusan:
Jesus Christ!

"You know the generous grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. Though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that by his poverty he could make you rich." 2 Corin 8:9

This was going to be my submission.
But I'm still learning from some comments here.
Will put up my submission later.
Thanks for your wisdom.

MaxInDHouse:
NO! Going by the lifestyle of normal humans Jesus can't be categorized as one of us.
He never refused to work for money neither did he accumulate anything nor does he have any child to pass on his wealth.
So Jesus can't be in that category himself and His father are no part of human family!

You've answered yourself.
The post is not about spirit beings but human beings.
Hence it cannot be Jehovah- God the Father. It is Jesus Christ- God the Word made flesh in the human form

Emusan:
When we say you people hate Jesus it will be like we're exaggerating.

Now the fact is before you but you're still beating about the bush.

2 Corin 8:9 says Jesus is rich which makes Him the richest in the Bible.

Show me where the Bible says Jehovah is rich!

Now storyteller has started peddling his story story

You know His Father owns everything yet you rush to claim Adam is the richest.

Every thing takes understanding. He is not wrong either.

Adam is the one God willed the whole earth to.
We are all his seeds, even Abraham and King Solomon are his seeds. So he is scripturally right.

However what makes Jesus Christ (Second Adam) richer than the First Adam is that God willed the heaven and the Earth to Him.

Myer:
Word made flesh in the human form

Ọmọ you're wrong!

What did Jesus possess when he was in the flesh?
He himself said:

“Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head.” Matthew 8:20

Meaning Jesus no get anything in the flesh all he has are his disciples nothing more!

Odin13:
Abraham

David

Solomom

You're very biblically sound.

The actual answer I was looking for was Jesus Christ.
But if we were not to consider Jesus Christ then that leaves few others;

1. Abraham certainly, being Father of many nations. God revealed himself to him as the Possessor of Heaven and Earth. That was the first time God would do such to any man.
Besides Abraham is one of the few we are scripturally sure are in heaven.

2. King Solomon because that is scriptually who God says would be the richest human being ever.

3. Job because he was the richest in the East and he lived the most fulfilled life. Scripturally an ideal man who went through the worst of all challenges but never denied God. Remained husband to one wife and blessed with many children and lived to see his 4th generations.

4. Paul because he was the perfect example of an successful single man in full time ministry.

5. Peter because he was the perfect example of a married man in full time ministry.

6. Aquila and Priscilla because they were the perfect example for a couple in full time ministry.

7. Others are Moses, David, Mary (mother of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, etc.

In summary, it's difficult to select one person as the richest person in the bible. Because riches is beyond financial success. It is all encompassing.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're wrong!

What did Jesus possess when he was in the flesh?
He himself said:

“Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head.” Matthew 8:20

Meaning Jesus no get anything in the flesh all he has are his disciples nothing more!

He chose to be.
Whenever he needed to feed 7000, 4000, etc he simply multiplied whatever was available.
He fed more people than King Solomon.

MaxInDHouse:
Talking about material possessions Adam is the richest

Provide where Bible says Adam is the richest

Jesus is the richest 2 Corin 8:9

but as for the spirit realms Jehovah is the richest.
Do you agree?

Provide the Bible verse.

Jesus is the richest 2 Corin 8:9



You have been repeating the same since but why no single verse?

Myer:
He chose to be.

So he was not rich at all!

Perhaps you need to revisit the topic of your thread:
Who WAS the richest person in the Bible?

Jesus can't be that person because he wasn't human so what he had isn't visible to anyone but Adam had it all.

So if Jesus will have everything it's when He takes over the rulership of the earth from Satan until then Jesus has only his disciples on this planet!

Myer:
Every thing takes understanding. He is not wrong either.

He is wrong.

Adam is the one God willed the whole earth to.

That a rich man willed all his properties to a son doesn't mean the son is rich.

We are all his seeds, even Abraham and King Solomon are his seeds. So he is scripturally right.

Then there shouldn't be a need of this thread, since Adam willed everything to his sons and we're his sons.

But you created this thread because you know what riches are individual not by WILL.

However what makes Jesus Christ (Second Adam) richer than the First Adam is that God willed the heaven and the Earth to Him.

God never WILL to Christ but CHRIST CREATED AND OWNS EVERYTHING.

Emusan:
Provide where Bible says Adam is the richest
Jesus is the richest 2 Corin 8:9
Provide the Bible verse.
Jesus is the richest 2 Corin 8:9
You have been repeating the same since but why no single verse?

His disciples said this which can't be proved unlike Adam!

Emusan:
He is wrong.



That a rich man willed all his properties to a son doesn't mean the son is rich.



Then there shouldn't be a need of this thread, since Adam willed everything to his sons and we're his sons.

But you created this thread because you know what riches are individual not by WILL.



God never WILL to Christ but CHRIST CREATED AND OWNS EVERYTHING.

The challenge here is our different understanding of Trinity.

Spiritually Jesus Christ is the richest
Materially Adam should be the richest but he lost it to Satan.
Hence materially King Solomon is the richest.
Spiritually and materially, Abraham can be said to be the richest.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus can't be that person because he wasn't human so what he had isn't visible to anyone but Adam had it all.

But Jesus was Human while on Earth. Isn't it?

You also agree that Jesus is the second Adam, so if the first Adam is the richest, why won't second Adam more richer than the first considering when Bible even says it plainly that Jesus is RICH?

So if Jesus will have everything it's when He takes over the rulership of the earth from Satan until then Jesus has only his disciples on this planet!

Can you see this open lie against the scripture?

Aren't ALL CREATIONS belongs to Jesus?

"Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth." Matt 28:18 - NWT

MaxInDHouse:
His disciples said this which can't be proved unlike Adam!

So the disciples are wrong, is that so?

Myer:
The challenge here is our different understanding of Trinity.

Nothing even concerns TRINITY here.

Spiritually Jesus Christ is the richest
Materially Adam should be the richest but he lost it to Satan.

Nothing like spiritually, Jesus owns everything in the universe and the Bible says Jesus is rich. Considering when such statement never used for Adam.

Hence materially King Solomon is the richest.
Spiritually and materially, Abraham can be said to be the richest.

Jesus is rich for God to pen this down from Holy Spirit through His apostle shows no one's come close.

Emusan:
Nothing even concerns TRINITY here.



Nothing like spiritually, Jesus owns everything in the universe and the Bible says Jesus is rich. Considering when such statement never used for Adam.



Jesus is rich for God to pen this down from Holy Spirit through His apostle shows no one's come close.

Every thing about the bible hinges on your understanding of Trinity.

While Jesus Christ was physically on earth, he was not God the Father. Hence He could only have/do whatever God the Father decided/willed he should have/do in that moment/hour.

John.5.19 - Then Jesus answered and said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner.

IconicR:
That's a lie, I wasn't distracting them in any way
I was just doing my thing then, I didn't even know anything about men kos I was reporting everything to my mom till my dad bound me from doing it
My pastor was also in support
Even though I was big and look very matured but I was just 13-15 years that time.
You won't understand, these guys out there can be very crazy

That was wise judgment on their part.
At that age some guys would have taken advantage of your naivity.
Your beauty should however not deter you anymore simoly ask for divine grace and wisdom to go about it. Do reconsider it. It is what touches the heart of God the most- soul-winning. 2 Cor 5:18-20

Prov.11.30 - The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, And he who wins souls is wise.

Myer:
That was wise judgment on their part.
At that age some guys would have taken advantage of your naivity.
Your beauty should however not deter you anymore simoly ask for divine grace and wisdom to go about it. Do reconsider it. It is what touches the heart of God the most- soul-winning. 2 Cor 5:18-20

Prov.11.30 - The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, And he who wins souls is wise.

I still have it in me but maybe will opt for an online thing later in life
When I newly came to nairaland I was just in religion section till these people dragged me out of there and changed my view about nairaland
I learnt work well and gave it back to them

Myer:
Every thing about the bible hinges on your understanding of Trinity.

While Jesus Christ was physically on earth, he was not God the Father. Hence He could only have/do whatever God the Father decided/willed he should have/do in that moment/hour.

John.5.19 - Then Jesus answered and said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner.

Are you sure, you quote the right post?

Emusan:
Are you sure, you quote the right post?

It's aptly in response to your post on Trinity. Every thing concerns the Trinity.

Myer:
It's in aptly in response to your post on Trinity.

But my post was never about Trinity!

IconicR:
I still have it in me but maybe will opt for an online thing later in life
When I newly came to nairaland I was just in religion section till these people dragged me out of there and changed my view about nairaland
I learnt work well and gave it back to them

I understand.
Pray about it. Grace multiplied to you.

Emusan:
But my post was never about Trinity!

Read our previous posts, your response to my first mention of Trinity.

Myer:
Read our previous posts, your response to my first mention of Trinity.

I said my post WAS never about Trinity.

Was it?

Emusan:
I said my post WAS never about Trinity.

Was it?

And I replied that every thing is hinged on our understanding of Trinity.

There are some understanding of scriptures we can't really get until we have a deeper understanding of the Trinity of God and Man.

Emusan:
So the disciples are wrong, is that so?

The story is read by lots of people Jesus' case is not accepted by the Jews till today so when talking about what everyone can prove there is no sense in quoting someone out of context.

Who WAS the richest person in the Bible?

Jesus has nothing it's his disciples that says he has something based on their faith that he is someone great in heaven not here on earth!

MaxInDHouse:
The story is read by lots of people Jesus' case is not accepted by the Jews till today so when talking about what everyone can prove there is no sense in quoting someone out of context.

Story story

Who WAS the richest person in the Bible?

I said it's Jesus Christ 2 Corin 8:9

Jesus has nothing it's his disciples that says he has something based on their faith that he is someone great in heaven not here on earth!

Jesus has everything! That's why Paul can say He is rich!

Where is the Bible verse that says Jehovah is rich.

Just one verse, you can't cover that up

Myer:
And I replied that every thing is hinged on our understanding of Trinity.

Was this thread about Trinity? No!

Did I made any point that links to Trinity? No!

There are some understanding of scriptures we can't really get until we have a deeper understanding of the Trinity of God and Man.

Of what point does this address my point when I never talk about Trinity?

You created this thread and no where Trinity appears on it.

Emusan:
Was this thread about Trinity? No!

Did I made any point that links to Trinity? No!



Of what point does this address my point when I never talk about Trinity?

You created this thread and no where Trinity appears on it.

Ok. Exactly my point.