So I have heard a lot of stories, about reincarnation, arguments for and against reincarnation, and lectures concerning the same subject.

First, what is reincarnation?

Simply say it is the idea that a dead person can come back to earth in human form as a baby and continue from where the person left off in the previous life. (This may not be 100 percent accurate, but at least u get d idea)

Without further Ado, let's get right in.

More than 100 years ago, the world population staggered at around 2billion people.

Do you know why? Medical science had not so improved like as today.

Malaria, measles, typhoid etc were still killing millions of people yearly.

Fast forward to today, the world population has jumped to more that 7billion people.

My question is this where did the other 5billion or so come from?

Relax. Let me explain.

If we are only 3 people in a room, if one person exits the room then we will have just 2 people left. If the one person that left comes back, then the number returns to 3.

Same thing happens if 2 people or all the 3 people leave the room. If at anytime there should be more than 3 people in the room, then we will not be wrong to conclude that there has been some new addition to the room.


Now imagine that room like our world, and the 3 people like the inhabitants. If reincarnation is legit, then the world population should be equal to or less than 3, but never more than 3.


So again where did the over 5 billion come from? Who or where did they reincarnate from?

Once you can answer this question, I will present you with the next problem your answer will bring.

Maxindhouse come here and answer this question. You notorious witness

Peledonomy:
So I have heard a lot of stories, about reincarnation, arguments for and against reincarnation, and lectures concerning the same subject.

First, what is reincarnation?

Simply say it is the idea that a dead person can come back to earth in human form as a baby and continue from where the person left off in the previous life. (This may not be 100 percent accurate, but at least u get d idea)

Without further Ado, let's get right in.

More than 100 years ago, the world population staggered at around 2billion people.

Do you know why? Medical science had not so improved like as today.

Malaria, measles, typhoid etc were still killing millions of people yearly.

Fast forward to today, the world population has jumped to more that 7billion people.

My question is this where did the other 5billion or so come from?

Relax. Let me explain.

If we are only 3 people in a room, if one person exits the room then we will have just 2 people left. If the one person that left comes back, then the number returns to 3.

Same thing happens if 2 people or all the 3 people leave the room. If at anytime there should be more than 3 people in the room, then we will not be wrong to conclude that there has been some new addition to the room.


Now imagine that room like our world, and the 3 people like the inhabitants. If reincarnation is legit, then the world population should be equal to or less than 3, but never more than 3.


So again where did the over 5 billion come from? Who or where did they reincarnate from?

Once you can answer this question, I will present you with the next problem your answer will bring.

where did the 2billion people cone from?

22jumpstreet1:


where did the 2billion people cone from?

Well, if you were smart, you should have deduced that this was part of the question. ( Although it was underlying)

Peledonomy:
Maxindhouse come here and answer this question. You notorious witness

Answer which fool question?
There are countless number of souls but limited number of bodies. {Meaning there are countless number of "people" in the "room"}. The more bodies you can produce the more souls that can get bodies

DaddyCoool:


Answer which fool question?
There are countless number of souls but limited number of bodies. The more bodies you can produce the more souls that can get bodies

The problem is this. Where did this souls come from?

How can the number of souls exceed the number of bodies?

If a man dies and exits his body, we should have only the vacancy for that soul. That means according to the theory of reincarnation we can't have more souls than bodies.


You are not educated. Your mind can't grasp this philosophy.

Go and make garri

One person may leave and reincarnate into twins or triplets.. that's where the 5 billion came.

Peledonomy:


The problem is this. Where did this souls come from?

How can the number of souls exceed the number of bodies?

If a man dies and exits his body, we should have only the vacancy for that soul. That means according to the theory of reincarnation we can't have more souls than bodies.


You are not educated. Your mind can't grasp this philosophy.

Go and make garri

You are talking like a fool. The "spirit world" has countless number of souls and even demons, without bodies. Hence demon possession. I thought even a child knew this

DaddyCoool:


You are talking like a fool. The "spirit world" has countless number of souls and even demons, without bodies. Hence demon possession. I thought even a child knew this

We are talking reincarnation this demon in a human form is telling us who he is and his origin

Don't worry, when I create a new thread to talk about demons then u can come and educate us. For now, the topic is strictly reincarnation. That is someone dies and comes back.

Illiterate demon

Peledonomy:


Well, if you were smart, you should have deduced that this was part of the question. ( Although it was underlying)

You did not state where the 2 billion came from..

you just said 100 years ago. The world population staggered around 2 billion...

wherever the 2 billion comes from, the additional 5 billion comes rom there..

if any one from the two billion has not fulfilled the purpose of his creation, he can be sent back to do so...
in addition to new souls still being created.

that is why the Orion nebula is so important, it is where new souls are created.

Zonefree:
One person may leave and reincarnate into twins or triplets.. that's where the 5 billion came.

From this your point, we should have more twin and triplet births than single births, but that's not the case. Y?

Secondly, when these twins and triplets die and reincarnate, are they coming back as themselves or the original soul that split into multiple bodies?

I have about 17 questions for this your argument. U go fit answer all?

Peledonomy:


From this your point, we should have more twin and triplet births than single births, but that's not the case. Y?

Secondly, when these twins and triplets die and reincarnate, are they coming back as themselves or the original soul that split into multiple bodies?

I have about 17 questions for this your argument. U go fit answer all?

I'm only trying to put through on the mathematical aspect of reincarnation you posted...I know nothing about soul that split into multiple bodies.

22jumpstreet1:


You did not state where the 2 billion came from..

you just said 100 years ago. The world population staggered around 2 billion...

wherever the 2 billion comes from, the additional 5 billion comes rom there..

if any one from the two billion has not fulfilled the purpose of his creation, he can be sent back to do so...
in addition to new souls still being created.

that is why the Orion nebula is so important, it is where new souls are created.

Creation of new souls already negates the authnticity of reincarnation.

How can we know that all souls are not new? What is then the proof that some souls come back

Zonefree:

I'm only trying to put through on the mathematical aspect of reincarnation you posted...I know nothing about soul that split into multiple bodies.

Thank you sir

Peledonomy:


We are talking reincarnation this demon in a human form is telling us who he is and his origin

Don't worry, when I create a new thread to talk about demons then u can come and educate us. For now, the topic is strictly reincarnation. That is someone dies and comes back.

Illiterate demon

Sorry, I assumed I was talking to someone capable of at least rudimentary thought. That's Nairaland for you. How'd you know you're talking to a total ignoramus until too late. Bye bye.
(Just for your puny brain, people have died and come back to say that souls on the other side would give anything to have your worst day, to have a body even for a day. Some souls get to come back right away, some thousands of years, some, never)

22jumpstreet1:


You did not state where the 2 billion came from..

you just said 100 years ago. The world population staggered around 2 billion...

wherever the 2 billion comes from, the additional 5 billion comes rom there..

if any one from the two billion has not fulfilled the purpose of his creation, he can be sent back to do so...
in addition to new souls still being created.

that is why the Orion nebula is so important, it is where new souls are created.

Talking about purpose of creation, creating new souls etc is already looking like we came here to do fairy tales.

Oga. You have taken a stand that I don't like to engage. It will lead to the case of the chicken or the egg

DaddyCoool:


Sorry, I assumed I was talking to someone capable of at least rudimentary thought. That's Nairaland for you. How'd you know you're talking to a total ignoramus until too late. Bye bye.
(Just for your puny brain, people have died and come back to say that souls on the other side would give anything to have your worst day, to have a body even for a day)

Science has proven that a lot of people that claimed they died slipped into coma and their brains began to conjure realities that never exist.

Enjoy your stories from wanabe dead people.
Let the living breathe

Peledonomy:



Creation of new souls already negates the authnticity of reincarnation.

How can we know that all souls are not new? What is then the proof that some souls come back

you will know...

new souls don't dream...

if you do...then probably you are an old soul...

your dreams are reminders of your past life reminding you of things that need correcting and putting you on the right path..

new souls always wants to party, see things, experience things..

but old souls, those things no dey enter their eyes...

you get the gist

22jumpstreet1:


you will know...

new souls don't dream...

if you do...then probably you are an old soul...

your dreams are reminders of your past life reminding you of things that need correcting and putting you on the right path..

new souls always wants to party, see things, experience things..

but old souls, those things no dey enter their eyes...

you get the gist

1. Bross. There are people that dream and still like to party, experience things that you just mentioned.

There are those that don't dream and don't and don't like to partying and whatever.

You have to bring something else. That point is too watery.

Peledonomy:


Science has proven that a lot of people that claimed they died slipped into coma and their brains began to conjure realities that never exist.

Enjoy your stories from wanabe dead people.
Let the living breathe

Has nothing to do with anything.
I can't believe an adult is asking this question. It is so elementary.
Some souls get to come back right away, some have to wait thousands of years, some never come back.
Doesn't change the fact there are countless number of souls and "entities" (all without bodies) on the other side

DaddyCoool:


Has nothing to do with anything.
I can't believe an adult is asking this question. It is so elementary.
Some souls get to come back right away, some have to wait thousands of years, some never come back.
Doesn't change the fact there are countless number of souls and "entities" (all without bodies) on the other side

Hahaha.
Let me tell you something. Any of us can cook up stories about the other side. There is no empirical basis to believe anything that is NOT ON THIS OUR SIDE.

I can wake up one morning and say that on the other side, there are seven Virgins waiting for suicide bombers or there are streets made of gold and mansions built for loyalist of a man who hung on a tree.

Or I can say that on the other side people are kept in darkness until they pass the test of the lord of the underworld.

Oga anything anyone says about the other side is baseless.

We are not on the other side. Heck, there is no other side

Peledonomy:


Hahaha.
Let me tell you something. Any of us can cook up stories about the other side. There is no empirical basis to believe anything that is NOT ON THIS OUR SIDE.

I can wake up one morning and say that on the other side, there are seven Virgins waiting for suicide bombers or there are streets made of gold and mansions built for loyalist of a man who hung on a tree.

Or I can say that on the other side people are kept in darkness until they pass the test of the lord of the underworld.

Oga anything anyone says about the other side is baseless.

We are not on the other side. Heck, there is no other side

My friend, with all due respect, you talk like an annoynig IDIOT.
You accept possibility of reincarnation. Where do people reincarnate from?

DaddyCoool:


My friend, with all due respect, you talk like an annoynig IDIOT.
You accept possibility of reincarnation. Where do people reincarnate from?

Once again. U have displayed your inability to comprehend. I don't accept reincarnation

Peledonomy:

Maxindhouse come here and answer this question. You notorious witness

Nah wa o!

Everyone just want to hear from Max.

Well you've shot yourself in the foot.

First of all true disciples of Christ has nothing to do with reincarnation secondly you don't abuse someone when you need his contribution.

Go and get some manners before inviting me!

Peledonomy:


Once again. U have displayed your inability to comprehend. I don't accept reincarnation

If you don't accept possibility of reincarnation then what's the point of this discussion. Why not simply state you believe this is all there is. It is like saying you don't believe pink elephants exist, then go on to debate how pink elephants operate!

MaxInDHouse:


Nah wa o!

Everyone just want to hear from Max.

Well you've shot yourself in the foot.

First of all true disciples of Christ has nothing to do with reincarnation secondly you don't abuse someone when you need his contribution.

Go and get some manners before inviting me!

U re lucky I used something decent as notorious. U have nothing to say.

DaddyCoool:


If you don't accept possibility of reincarnation then what's the point of this discussion. Why not simply state you believe this is all there is. It is like saying you don't believe pink elephants exist, then go on to debate how pink elephants operate!

Stop talking from your anus.

It's more like I don't believe pink elephants exist, then I go on to scientifically prove why they can't and don't exist.

The burden of proof is on you.

Peledonomy:
Without further Ado, let's get right in.
More than 100 years ago, the world population staggered at around 2billion people.
Do you know why? Medical science had not so improved like as today.
Malaria, measles, typhoid etc were still killing millions of people yearly.
Fast forward to today, the world population has jumped to more that 7billion people.
My question is this where did the other 5billion or so come from?
Relax. Let me explain.
If we are only 3 people in a room, if one person exits the room then we will have just 2 people left. If the one person that left comes back, then the number returns to 3.
Same thing happens if 2 people or all the 3 people leave the room. If at anytime there should be more than 3 people in the room, then we will not be wrong to conclude that there has been some new addition to the room.
Now imagine that room like our world, and the 3 people like the inhabitants. If reincarnation is legit, then the world population should be equal to or less than 3, but never more than 3.
So again where did the over 5 billion come from? Who or where did they reincarnate from?
Once you can answer this question, I will present you with the next problem your answer will bring.

OP no dey watch Scifi at all.

Surely If, and when, the reincarnation pool(soul recycling pool) is depleted, surely the soul creation engine is automagically re-engaged in order to generate new souls into the world in order to meet with world demand for babies.

Kobojunkie:
OP no dey watch Scifi at all.

Surely If and when the reincarnation pool is depleted, surely the soul creation engage is automagically re-engaged in order to generate new souls into the world in order to meet up with world demand for babies.

This one don come with sci Fi. Figments of oyibo imagination

Peledonomy:


Stop talking from your anus.

It's more like I don't believe pink elephants exist, then I go on to scientifically prove why they can't and don't exist.

The burden of proof is on you.

My friend, honestly there is something seriously off about the way you reason.
How can you be discussing MATHEMATICS of reincarnation when you don't believe reincarnation is even possible. You are discussing mathematics of something that doesn't exist! Once you say you don't believe reincarnation exists, end of discussion!

Peledonomy:
■ This one don come with sci Fi. Figments of oyibo imagination

It beats the 1-D reasoning/conclusion presented there in your OP though.

DaddyCoool:


My friend, honestly there is something seriously off about the way you reason.
How can you be discussing MATHEMATICS of reincarnation when you don't believe reincarnation is even possible. You are discussing mathematics of something that doesn't exist! Once you say you don't believe reincarnation exists, end of discussion!

Once I say I don't believe in reincarnation, the discussion just started because people like you will try to prove to me why it exist. So in order to end the discussion, I have to mathematically show you that reincarnation is rubbish.

Else you will keep shoving the rubbish down my throat.


The discussion is actually over now because the proponents of such theory, (yourself included) can't argue against mathematics.