TenQ:

He refused to answer my questions.

He has denied his hadiths now and want to turn Qur'an only!

Lol.

FxMasterz:


Lol.

He says Qur'an 4:24 is not about Temporary marriage contrary to the statements in black and white narrative from two hadiths by Muslim 1404a and Bukhari 5075

TenQ:

He says Qur'an 4:24 is not about Temporary marriage contrary to the statements in black and white narrative from two hadiths by Muslim 1404a and Bukhari 5075

It's not him. Actually, he doesn't know what he's doing himself. He's under the influence of the spirit of Islam.

The Islam you quote is your definition of Islam from hadith not the Quran.

TenQ:

It is impossible for you to speak the truth with respect to your religion.


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 :
Narrated by 'Abdullah
We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, "Shall we get ourselves castrated?" He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry women with a temporary contract and recited to us: 'O you who believe ! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, but commit no transgression.' (5.87)


This also found in

Sahih Muslim 1404a
Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported: We were on an expedition with Allah’s Messenger and we had no women with us. We said: Should we not have ourselves castrated? He (the Holy Prophet) forbade us to do so He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment, and ‘Abdullah then recited this verse: ‘Those who believe do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, and do not transgress. Allah does not like trangressers”

You are not a Qur'an only Muslim yet you don't explain the Qur'an with the hadith. I So, non of why reference the hadiths in the first place?

Did you see ANYTHING like Contract of Temporary Marriage in the two Sahih Hadiths?
This Mutah was Authorised By Allah and his prophet! Your prophet banned it then allowed it then banned it then allowed it And till he died, Mutah was still in practice till the second Khalif finally banned it.



All you have shown me is the unreliability of your hadiths narrated by Muslims, guess what compiled by Muslims and used by Muslims. How then can we trust anything from the mouth of Muslims.

You don't even trust yourselves to speak the truth! SMH!


FINALLY
On the title of your Original Post:

KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith -
1. This is completely untrue. Is it possible to follow a person you don't even know?
2. I did not know ANYTHING about Kab al-Ahbar till you opened this your thread
3. You could not even show that any significant number of Hadiths relative to your available hadiths are by Kab al-Ahbar
4. Kab al-Ahbar was a Jew who converted to Islam and DIED as a Muslim




Please let's call it a day!

You didn't answer on Kab al abhar and I have answered, why not answer yourself?

TenQ:

He refused to answer my questions.

He has denied his hadiths now and want to turn himself into Qur'an only Muslim!

TenQ:
Here is Bukhari 2155
Sahih al-Bukhari 2155
Narrated `Aisha:
Allah's Messenger came to me and I told him about the slave-girl (Barirah) Allah's Messenger said, "Buy and manumit her, for the Wala is for the one who manumits." In the evening the Prophet got up and glorified Allah as He deserved and then said, "Why do some people impose conditions which are not present in Allah's Book (Laws)? Whoever imposes such a condition as is not in Allah's Laws, then that condition is invalid even if he imposes one hundred conditions, for Allah's conditions are more binding and reliable."

So, why aren't you obeying Allah's commands?


Then why do you disregard the command of Allah in Qur'an 4:24 knowing that you should not prohibit the good things which Allah has made lawful to you according to Qur'an 5:87.

Here are laws you impose which are not present in Allah's book
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52:
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 =Sahih al-Bukhari 5075:
Narrated by Abdullah bin Mas'ud: "We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, 'Shall we get ourselves castrated?' He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry a woman temporarily by giving her even a garment, and then he recited to us: 'O you who believe! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you.'"

Sahih Muslim, Book 8, Hadith 3243:
Narrated by Abdullah: "We contracted temporary marriage giving a handful of dates or flour as a dower during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) and during the time of Abu Bakr until Umar forbade it in the case of 'Amr bin Huraith."

Highlighted is Buhari 2155 what does it mean?

School me on how the apostles verified this please? I really want to understand.

FxMasterz:


Paul's meeting of Jesus was first verified by the disciples of Jesus before he was finally accepted into the fold! Who verified the meeting of Mohammed with the said angel Gabriel? I really want an answer to this question.

Also, your Quran and your hadith are your holy books. Do you now want to deny your hadith because they're not the sayings of Allah and Mohammed? Are your hadith now filthy books?

Thirdly, keep your pbuh to yourself while referring to Christ. He is the Prince of Peace. He needs no such prayers. Mohammed needs such prayers as his fate was actually uncertain to him. He was even afraid to face death. Unfortunately for him, prayers don't work for the dead. Once you die, your fate is sealed.

Would you say there was no understanding of this verse before transmitted hadith were written down and gathered in the 8th and 9th centuries; more than 100 years after the prophet's s.a.w death?

TenQ:

He says Qur'an 4:24 is not about Temporary marriage contrary to the statements in black and white narrative from two hadiths by Muslim 1404a and Bukhari 5075

Must have missed this cause the mentions were quite a number.
1. The moulding and breathing into man was explicitly mentioned. If this was the case with other animals it would have been stated.
Does your Bible say God breath into the animals? Perhaps if it did there would be some more to discuss.

2. In the Quran Allah says he will create an authority on earth. ˹Remember˺ when your Lord said to the angels, “I am going to place a successive ˹human˺ authority on earth.” They asked ˹Allah˺, “Will You place in it someone who will spread corruption there and shed blood while we glorify Your praises and proclaim Your holiness?” Allah responded, “I know what you do not know.”Q2:30.
The other created animals are not authority. Man was created as an authority on earth.
Other translations has this as And when your Lord said to the angels, “Verily I am going to make in the earth a vicegerent
Meaning of vicegerent are:
A person appointed by a ruler or head of state to act as an administrative deputy.
An officer deputed by a superior or by proper authority to exercise the powers of the higher authority; one having a delegated power; a deputy; a vicar.
An officer who is deputed by a superior, or by proper authority, to exercise the powers of another; a lieutenant; a vicar.
This is the status of the creation of man. Don't you ponder how we control the affairs of much larger animals? And the plants and earth?

3. Allah did not say he moulded birds with clay. Why are you forcing this argument.

And Allah has created from water every living creature. Some of them crawl on their bellies, some walk on two legs, and some walk on four. Allah creates whatever He wills. Surely Allah is Most Capable of everything.
Q24:45

Allah would have included man explicitly here but with respect to man He began the creation of human beings with clay note he doesn't say water.
Isa a.s moulded the form of a bird from clay not starting with water as Allah to whom non can be compared that created from water.

Do you understand what the similitude refers too?

Do you refuse to see: And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour upon you and your mother: how I supported you with the holy spirit1 so you spoke to people in ˹your˺ infancy and adulthood. How I taught you writing, wisdom, the Torah, and the Gospel. How you moulded a bird from clay—by My Will—and breathed into it and it became a ˹real˺ bird—by My Will. How you healed the blind and the lepers—by My Will. How you brought the dead to life—by My Will.

What does by my will tell you?
This will enabled Abraham pbuh kill and disect birds that came to life and answered his call.

Allah needs no co-creator and is the sole creator.
He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and who has not taken a son and has not had a partner in dominion and has created each thing and determined it with [precise] determination Q25:2

Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is, over all things, Disposer of affairs.Q39:62

Do we now promote the prophets and messangers of God to the position of God for the signs he gave them to convince people of the divinity?

We should watch the reverance of those sent so as not to earn the wrath of the one who sends and has power over all.

TenQ:

1. There is no verse that says explicitly that Allah did not breathe into the animals as animals were collectively grouped without any specifics
2. Man is the highest of God's creation and Allah specifically said he breathe into Adam after moulding him with mud or clay.
3. Jesus did exactly what Allah did
a. He moulded with clay
b. He breathe into the clay
c. The clay came to life and animals.

Are you aware that the challenge of Allah was about something as small as a fly and not Man nor Jinn?
Quran 22:73
"O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): verily! Those on whom you call besides Allah cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatched away a thing from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought."

Are you saying Allah is wrong and you are correct on this?


1. Do you agree that Jesus is at least a co-creator with Allah?
2. Do you know any other human with this ability to create life?


probably the descendants of the bird created by Jesus is still alive right now.
LOL!

I doesn't dawn on you that Jesus did

Rabi' b. Saburah reported on the authority of his father:
The Messenger of Allah (saws) prohibited temporary marriage with women.
Sunan Abi Dawud 2073
Book 12, Hadith 28

Narrated 'Ali (RA):
Allah's Messenger (SAW) forbade Mut'a ( temporary marriage) in the year of Khaibar.
Muslim book 8, Hadith 34


Sahih Muslim 1406 h
Rabi' b. Sabra reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (may peace be
upon him) prohibited the contracting of temporary marriage.

Sahih al-Bukhari 4216
Narrated Àli bin Abi Talib:
On the day of Khaibar, Allah's Apostle forbade the Mut'a (i.e. temporary marriage) and the eating of donkey-meat.

Sahih al-Bukhari 4216
Sunan Ibn Majah 1961
It was narrated from 'Ali bin Abu Talib that:
The Messenger of Allah forbade on the Day of Khaibar, the temporary marriage of women and (he forbade) the flesh of domestic donkeys.

Mishkat al-Masabih 3147
‘Ali said that at the battle for Khaibar God’s Messenger forbade the temporary marriage
(mut’a) of women, and eating the flesh of domestic asses. (Bukhari and Muslim)


By Allah, If I hear of any married person entering a temporary marriage, I will stone him to death, unless he can bring me four witnesses who will testify that the Messenger of Allah, allowed it after he forbade it'."

Sahih Muslim 1224 c
Abu Dharr (Allah be pleased with him) said:
Two are the Mut'as which were not permissible but only for us, i. e. temporary marriage
with women and Tamattu' in Hajj.

Sahih Muslim 1407 a
'Ali b. AbiTalib reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) prohibited on the
Day of Khaibar the contracting of temporary marriage with women and the eating of the flesh of domestic asses.

Sahih Muslim 1407 c
Muhammad b. 'Ali narrated on the authority of his father 'Ali that Allah's Apostle (may
peace be upon him) on the Day of Khaibar prohibited forever the contracting of temporary
marriage and eating of the flesh of the domestic asses.

TenQ:

He says Qur'an 4:24 is not about Temporary marriage contrary to the statements in black and white narrative from two hadiths by Muslim 1404a and Bukhari 5075

FxMasterz:


It's not him. Actually, he doesn't know what he's doing himself. He's under the influence of the spirit of Islam.

Fxmasterz

And to say such a one is the promised Holy Spirit to teach people all things.
What is he going to teach us :his dirty lifestyle?

And if he was the Holy Spirit to teach all things, then the disciples - Apostles amd the 120 and the 500, and Agabus and Philip would have waited 300 years plus for the supposed Holy Spirit to be born to teach them all things.

And to teach what?
That drinking his pee is holy and would guarantee heaven.
To teach to suck a boys penis is good.
To teach that marrying an aged woman and a minor is cool.
He was even confused who was speaking to Him.

TenQ:

Don't mind them.
They would rather follow a 419 than the Messiah!

Blue86:
And to say such a one is the promised Holy Spirit to teach people all things.
What is he going to teach us :his dirty lifestyle?

And if he was the Holy Spirit to teach all things, then the disciples - Apostles amd the 120 and the 500, and Agabus and Philip would have waited 300 years plus for the supposed Holy Spirit to be born to teach them all things.

And to teach what?
That drinking his pee is holy and would guarantee heaven.
To teach to suck a boys penis is good.
To teach that marrying an aged woman and a minor is cool.
He was even confused who was speaking to Him.

Unfortunately, the objective of Muslims is to tell lies upon lies to make Islam look beautiful and acceptable to people.

How can God be defended with lies?

TenQ:


What is the difference between
مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر?

corrected!

Questions :
1. What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?

2. What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

[[/b]

Decided against elucidating?
Don't live it hanging. I don't know. Do tell

Explore2xmore:
School me on how the apostles verified this please? I really want to understand.

Please patiently read through. Also understand that Paul's real name was Saul. His name was changed to Paul sometimes after he became a Christian.

See, in Christianity, we're commanded to try all spirits. Except you're ignorant, it's very difficult for anyone to deceive Spirit-filled Christians. We're given the Holy Spirit who gives us discernment. If Paul lied, he'll be bursted. Elymas the soccerer couldn't succeed even though he tried all he could to make himself look like a Christian. Verification usually takes place before acceptance. Then, the Holy Spirit confirms that person. For Paul, this was how it happened:

After his encounter with Jesus, he was blinded and led by the hands into Damascus. Then, the Lord Jesus Himself spoke to one of the disciples in Damascus about Paul as seen below:

Acts 9:10-19

" 10 In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision, “Ananias!”

“Yes, Lord,” he answered.

11 The Lord told him, “Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. 12 In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands on him to restore his sight.”

13 “Lord,” Ananias answered, “I have heard many reports about this man and all the harm he has done to your holy people in Jerusalem. 14 And he has come here with authority from the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name.”

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.”

17 Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said
“Brother Saul, the Lord—Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here—has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” 18 Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul’s eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized, 19 and after taking some food, he regained his strength.

Please, take note of the words in Italics. Paul wasn't the one who went about telling Christians about his encounter.

And, that wasn't even enough. Paul was rejected when he attempted to join the disciples in Jerusalem on his return from Damascus."


Then in Acts 9:26:

"When he came to Jerusalem, he tried repeatedly to associate with the disciples; and yet they were all afraid of him, as they did not believe that he was a disciple.'

It took the efforts of Barnabas, one of the top disciples to interrogate Paul and afterwards present him as a true disciple to those in Jerusalem. Upon verification of his Damascus encounter, the testimonies of the disciples in Damascus, the confirmation of Ananias and the recommendation of Barnabas, he was accepted under probation before he was later commissioned by the Holy Ghost to preach. He didn't push himself forward. A word of prophesy commissioned him and Barnabas to preach in Acts 13:2.

Before he was commissioned to preach, he was further verified. He himself submitted himself for further verification. It was a serious grilling. You can read the whole account in Galatians 2. Paul stated the results of the grilling in Galatians 2:9:

"James, Cephas and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised."

Note that the person called Cephas here is Peter.

Now, tell us how Mohammed's encounter with the said angel Gabriel was verified.

Lying is allowed in their faith.
That tells us all we need to know about them.

TenQ:



Unfortunately, the objective of Muslims is to tell lies upon lies to make Islam look beautiful and acceptable to people.

How can God be defended with lies?

Blue86:
Lying is allowed in their faith.
That tells us all we need to know about them.

Muslims generally have a mantra like this

"Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind "

Till the very end when they enter hell fire, this is what the prince of this world has sealed their hearts and mind to be.

We shall do our best to lead them to the Messiah!

I was hoping you will share where Jesus appeared to 12 apostles and Paul or 11 since Judas is reported to have killed himself.


Ananias too is a later apostle of Jesus not mentioned amongst the original 12.

Remember too Peter or Cephas had denied Jesus thrice before in fear of the authorities I think. Paul or Saul is someone who was associated with the authorities in some way though a persecutor of Christians.

FxMasterz:


Please patiently read through. Also understand that Paul's real name was Saul. His name was changed to Paul sometimes after he became a Christian.

See, in Christianity, we're commanded to try all spirits. Except you're ignorant, it's very difficult for anyone to deceive Spirit-filled Christians. We're given the Holy Spirit who gives us discernment. If Paul lied, he'll be bursted. Elymas the soccerer couldn't succeed even though he tried all he could to make himself look like a Christian. Verification usually takes place before acceptance. Then, the Holy Spirit confirms that person. For Paul, this was how it happened:

After his encounter with Jesus, he was blinded and led by the hands into Damascus. Then, the Lord Jesus Himself spoke to one of the disciples in Damascus about Paul as seen below:

Acts 9:10-19

" 10 In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision, “Ananias!”

“Yes, Lord,” he answered.

11 The Lord told him, “Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. 12 In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands on him to restore his sight.”

13 “Lord,” Ananias answered, “I have heard many reports about this man and all the harm he has done to your holy people in Jerusalem. 14 And he has come here with authority from the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name.”

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.”

17 Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said
“Brother Saul, the Lord—Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here—has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” 18 Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul’s eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized, 19 and after taking some food, he regained his strength.

Please, take note of the words in Italics. Paul wasn't the one who went about telling Christians about his encounter.

And, that wasn't even enough. Paul was rejected when he attempted to join the disciples in Jerusalem on his return from Damascus."


Then in Acts 9:26:

"When he came to Jerusalem, he tried repeatedly to associate with the disciples; and yet they were all afraid of him, as they did not believe that he was a disciple.'

It took the efforts of Barnabas, one of the top disciples to interrogate Paul and afterwards present him as a true disciple to those in Jerusalem. Upon verification of his Damascus encounter, the testimonies of the disciples in Damascus, the confirmation of Ananias and the recommendation of Barnabas, he was accepted under probation before he was later commissioned by the Holy Ghost to preach. He didn't push himself forward. A word of prophesy commissioned him and Barnabas to preach in Acts 13:2.

Before he was commissioned to preach, he was further verified. He himself submitted himself for further verification. It was a serious grilling. You can read the whole account in Galatians 2. Paul stated the results of the grilling in Galatians 2:9:

"James, Cephas and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised."

Note that the person called Cephas here is Peter.

Now, tell us how Mohammed's encounter with the said angel Gabriel was verified.

Explore2xmore:
I was hoping you will share where Jesus appeared to 12 apostles and Paul or 11 since Judas is reported to have killed himself.


Ananias too is a later apostle of Jesus not mentioned amongst the original 12.

The resurrected Jesus is who we Christians worship.

The resurrected Jesus is the One whom Thomas called "My Lord and my God", not the physical Jesus. That's where Islam misses it. An encounter with the physical Jesus without the resurrected Jesus cannot make you a Christian. The physical Jesus lived only 33yrs. The resurrected Jesus lives forever, and is alive today. He is the One whom Paul met. He is the one all Christians meet. He is the One who returns to reign.

Now, tell me how Mohammed's encounter with angel Gabriel was verified.

I updated my previous post.
A resurrected Jesus is not physically visible to many people by my understanding. Outside dining with the 11( I believe) apostles.

FxMasterz:


The resurrected Jesus is who we Christians worship.

The resurrected Jesus is the One whom Thomas called "My Lord and my God", not the physical Jesus. That's where Islam misses it. An encounter with the physical Jesus without the resurrected Jesus cannot make you a Christian. The physical Jesus lived only 33yrs. The resurrected Jesus lives forever, and is alive today. He is the One whom Paul met. He is the one all Christians meet. He is the One who returns to reign.

Now, tell me how Mohammed's encounter with angel Gabriel was verified.

Explore2xmore:
I was hoping you will share where Jesus appeared to 12 apostles and Paul or 11 since Judas is reported to have killed himself.


Ananias too is a later apostle of Jesus not mentioned amongst the original 12.

Remember too Peter or Cephas had denied Jesus thrice before in fear of the authorities I think. Paul or Saul is someone who was associated with the authorities in some way though a persecutor of Christians.

Yeah, Peter denied Jesus but after Christ's resurrection, He met Peter and restored Him.

Paul was a fierce persecutor of Christians. Hw was on his way to met out severe persecutions against Christians in Damascus when he encountered Jesus. That encounter was what changed Paul. No satan can make anyone to become a servant of Christ the way Paul was. Paul became a strong spiritual force against the forces of hell in his days. One can understand why satan would do everything to discredit him.

Explore2xmore:
I updated my previous post.
A resurrected Jesus is not physically visible to many people by my understanding. Outside dining with the 11( I believe) apostles.

Christianity is not a religion of physical things. It is spiritual. Anytime you take a step of faith to invite Jesus into your life, He would manifest Himself to you.

Interesting though, did a spiritual Jesus say:
Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have

41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, Do you have anything here to eat? 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43 and he took it and ate it in their presence.

FxMasterz:


Christianity is not a religion of physical things. It is spiritual. Anytime you take a step of faith to invite Jesus into your life, He would manifest Himself to you.

Explore2xmore:
Interesting though, did a spiritual Jesus say:
Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have

41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, Do you have anything here to eat? 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43 and he took it and ate it in their presence.

A resurrected Jesus said so. He demonstrated in those passages that He resurrected with His physical body. If He didn't present His physical body, then He didn't resurrect. I spoke of a ressurected Jesus. Not a spiritual Jesus. However, the resurrected Jesus can operate spiritually because He is God in His Spirit but man in His body.

Never mind. It was to clarify since you wrote:

FxMasterz:


Christianity is not a religion of physical things. It is spiritual. Anytime you take a step of faith to invite Jesus into your life, He would manifest Himself to you.

FxMasterz:


A resurrected Jesus said so. He demonstrated in those passages that He resurrected with His physical body. If He didn't present His physical body, then He didn't resurrect. I spoke of a ressurected Jesus. Not a spiritual Jesus. However, the resurrected Jesus can operate spiritually because He is God in His Spirit but man in His body.

Explore2xmore:
Never mind. It was to clarify since you wrote:

Okay, hope I've clarified?

You've not told me how Mohammed and the angel that visited him were verified.

FxMasterz:


You've not told me how Mohammed and the angel that visited him were verified.

FxMasterz:


Now, tell me how Mohammed's encounter with angel Gabriel was verified.

I had assumed you were jesting as you tend not to believe in Allah, Muhammad s.a.w or the Qu'ran.
Q2:97
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Whoever is an enemy of Gabriel should know that he revealed this ˹Quran˺ to your heart by Allah’s Will, confirming what came before it—a guide and good news for the believers.

I was offline till now.

Explore2xmore:




I had assumed you were jesting as you tend not to believe in Allah, Muhammad s.a.w or the Qu'ran.
Q2:97
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Whoever is an enemy of Gabriel should know that he revealed this ˹Quran˺ to your heart by Allah’s Will, confirming what came before it—a guide and good news for the believers.

I was offline till now.

No, he didn't confirm anything that came before him. Rather he denied them.

All the prophets that came before him prophesied of a Messaih who would be born from David's lineage, and who would be the Saviour of the world.

The Saviour came. He Performed his duties. He Fulfilled all the prophesies. Mohammed came to deny it all. I don't have any reason to believe in such a person. He does not carry a single mark of Prophethood. He told so many lies and distorted so much histories. His character was nothing to write home about.

There's no single prophet before him who killed people in order to force them to believe in his God.

Would you now show me how Mohammed and the said angel that visited him were verified?

FxMasterz:


No, he didn't confirm anything that came before him. Rather he denied them.

All the prophets that came before him prophesied of a Messaih who would be born from David's lineage, and who would be the Saviour of the world.

The Saviour came. He Performed his duties. He Fulfilled all the prophesies. Mohammed came to deny it all. I don't have any reason to believe in such a person. He does not carry a single mark of Prophethood. He told so many lies and distorted so much histories. His character was nothing to write home about.

There's no single prophet before him who killed people in order to force them to believe in his God.

Would you now show me how Mohammed and the said angel that visited him were verified?

I wouldn't go through with this discussion. There are false fixations on how people accepted Islam. We also do not agree on what messiah from the jewish tradition says.

The messiah is based on doctrine concerning the ultimate or final things is one anointed with holy anointing oil, to be king of God's kingdom, and rule the Jewish people..All of humanity is not jewish. Alternatively the messiah is one who is ordained by God to lead the people of Israel.

Nevertheless, the stories of creation, Adam, Noah, Abraham, Joseph, Moses peace of God be on them all are related in the Quran.

Some prophets as leaders had some battles which may and may not be directly related to religion. David before becoming king participated in a battle and slew Goliath. David and Solomon as kings engaged in some form of battles. This is amongst what was confirmed in the Quran of what came before.

Deuteronomy 20
10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. 15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.

16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you


Deuteronomy 21
10 When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives,
11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her you may take her as your wife.
12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife.

Revelation 1:8
I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty

If each person is given the opportunity to talk about his choice of religion everyone will surely have something to say but then there is a way to distinguish true religion out of all the existing religions we have around today!

This is about God /Gods /Goddess /Goddesses therefore to identify true religion we need to talk about the God behind such a religion. There's no point whether the God in question is of the ancient Americans, Australians, Asians, Africans or Europeans what matters most is the ability of such a God not the claims from the adherents.

Jupiter, Zeus, Ra, Allah, Yhwh (Jehovah), Eledumare and so on are names we have heard from people living in different geographical locations all claiming their God is this and that.

Since we weren't present when what they are saying about their Gods happened it's unwise to rely solely on what they say so the wise step to take is put all the Gods to test.

We've seen magic in the past and worshipers of all these Gods can perform signs (either called miracles or magic) so that won't solve the puzzle.

The title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING and for someone to be supreme such a person must be capable of maintaining orderliness in his or her domain.

All the Gods have failed to maintain peace on this planet so we can conclude that it's because they're contradicting themselves that's why the earth has not known peace through the worship of multiple Gods but what about the adherents of each God is it possible for any of the Gods to maintain peace among his or her worshipers?
Note that SUPREME connotes ability to resolve issues without violence among those involved otherwise there is no reason to claim anyone is supreme if we just have to continue fighting and killing one another after discovering new techniques or destructive devices, we should all agree on someone whose authority is above all so that his or her words will be taken as final.
So if different religions can't agree on this what about each religion?
Is it possible for us to surrender before the one we call GOD and rely solely on his or her final say?
I found something really interesting in a book (Bible) despite the fact that the world is full of people worshiping different Gods a God claimed that at a point in time people from all the earth will start to reason with themselves over what is written regarding Him:

Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

We can say there is no religion that failed in this regard because people from different parts of the earth today worship one God or another that's not of their ancestors so all the Gods can claim they have fulfilled this.

Isaiah 2:3
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

This is a crucial one because the place mentioned in this prophecy today is a center of different religious sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so even though they are all fighting to keep this location in order to prove they're fulfilling this prophecy it's obvious that there is no unified thought on what any God said in Jerusalem today.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

With this it's clear that the God in question wants all His worshipers to be united as one big and happy family {John 17:22} so that LOVE which is God's predominant quality {1John 4:8} can reign among them {John 13:34-35} and the PEACE from God could be their watchword {John 14:27} this will serve as evidence that the PRINCE of PEACE {Isaiah 9:6} is their coordinator and that they are his true disciples! Act 1:8

Do we have such a religion today?
Forget about whatever anyone preaches or teaches because if they're not able to meet up with this requirement everything they're doing makes no practical sense.

May you have PEACE!

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I testify and believe that there is no god but Allah.

Apart from the usual mimicking of the above statement from different people claiming Muslims what exactly are you testifying to?

Well i was once like you before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses the dogmatic credulity is not worthwhile because the so called Allah you want to testify is just the word in the mouth of an Arabian that's all there is no single evidence that there is any god called Allah.

The title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING and the supreme supposed to ORGANIZE those in his or her domain so if people are DISORGANIZED to point of killing one another yet calling on the same Allah to support them in killing one another then your Allah is just a dogma and nothing more:

But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 2 Timothy 3:1-5

The highlighted in blue is why i abandoned Islam because you people are like other religions claiming you have a god in your midst but the way you follow politics to exterminate one another shows there is no god at all in your gathering you're just deluded!

MaxInDHouse:

Apart from the usual mimicking of the above statement from different people claiming Muslims what exactly are you testifying to?

Well i was once like you before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses the dogmatic credulity is not worthwhile because the so called Allah you want to testify is just the word in the mouth of an Arabian that's all there is no single evidence that there is any god called Allah.

The title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING and the supreme supposed to ORGANIZE those in his or her domain so if people are DISORGANIZED to point of killing one another yet calling on the same Allah to support them in killing one another then your Allah is just a dogma and nothing more:

But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 2 Timothy 3:1-5

The highlighted in blue is why i abandoned Islam because you people are like other religions claiming you have a god in your midst but the way you follow politics to exterminate one another shows there is no god at all in your gathering you're just deluded!

So many things are referred to as god by different people. How do you pronounce God differently from god?

What is godliness or is it Godliness?