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We have ministers with dreadlocks in white garment churches, although theirs are natural, this is the first time the presiding pastor of a mega church in the Nigerian Pentecostal fold will be on dreadlocks, tattoos and body piercings.

He also openly engages in sexual immortality in the name of acting as we have been told.

The marine kingdom have taken over many churches in the country over the years. Getting to see the subterranean powers take over a mega church is rare.

Revival started in Nigeria with the Pentecostal movement, but they went asleep and didn't prepare for the enemy's counter attacks. Now, the corruption have started from there fold, first with prosperity gospel, later came feminism, then came high level occultism, followed by homosexuality and sexual immortality on the alter.

If you are reading this, may God deliver your soul from spiritual captivity in Jesus name.

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The Bible says old things are passed away and all things have become new. Let whatever he has done stay in the past, stay in the past! We've heard stories of armed robbers, serial killers and prostitutes who gave their lives to Christ and the church and even Christ Himself welcomed them with open hands.

As regards his tattoos, how do you expect him to undo them? Tear up his skin or what? It's only Nigerian churches that attach too much importance to the physique, our heart is what matters to God. You can be a pastor on low-cut, always dressed in a suit and tie, no tattoo, no piercing, and your heart is far away from God. He doesn't even recognize you.

Odukoya was not smart and didn’t plan towards his demise.

Why I respect Oyedepo’s business sense. No one can challenge his son in an eventuality, and heard he has publicly made it known.

Have you not seen oyibo preachers with tattoos?

Search online and you would see

The church is all about business, Olukoya handing it to someone outside his family will collapse his business structure.
He had to pass it over to his son. He knew his son has dreadlocks and tattoos before his death.

Their members are not complaining

22o62021:
Have you not seen oyibo preachers with tattoos?

Search online and you would see

The church is all about business, Olukoya handing it to someone outside his family will collapse his business structure.
He had to pass it over to his son. He knew his son has dreadlocks and tattoos before his death.

Their members are not complaining

How I wish, their Tattoos are gospel related 😍

Wetin concern PFN concern CAN for unserious things like Tatoo and dreadlocks sef

And when are you Nigerians going to realize that the church do not consist of anything physical like the human body, tatoo, dreadlocks, congregation, church building and it altar, etc?
Rather, the church is the spirit in you, therefore whatever physical ordinances, doctrines or beliefs you chose to practice, you are entitled to it and you will be held held responsible only if such beliefs, doctrines, ordinances goes against the law?

For this ignorance, you will always find yourselves dedicating your quality time condemning what is not important.
Meanwhile, the number of out-of-school children is becoming alarming, you will not condemn that one.
Inadequate governmental policies on food production, job insecurity and poverty alleviation is there, you will not condemn that one.
Yahoo Yahoo or internet fraud rate is surging among young people, you will not condemn that one.
Illegal migration and child trafficking is common among you, you will not condemn that.

Omo! wetin do us like this as a people?

paxonel:
Wetin concern PFN concern CAN for unserious things like Tatoo and dreadlocks sef

And when are you Nigerians going to realize that the church do not consist of anything physical like the human body, tatoo, dreadlocks, congregation, church building and it altar, etc?
Rather, the church is the spirit in you, therefore whatever physical ordinances, doctrines or beliefs you chose to practice, you are entitled to it and you will be held held responsible only if such beliefs, doctrines, ordinances goes against the law?

For this ignorance, you will always find yourselves dedicating your quality time condemning what is not important.
Meanwhile, the number of out-of-school children is becoming alarming, you will not condemn that one.
Inadequate governmental policies on food production, job insecurity and poverty alleviation is there, you will not condemn that one.
Yahoo Yahoo or internet fraud rate is surging among young people, you will not condemn that one.
Illegal migration and child trafficking is common among you, you will not condemn that.

Omo! wetin do us like this as a people?

What do you expect them to condemn in religion section? I wonder how you guys who profess to have the holy spirit communicate like toddlers!

Child trafficking would be in crime section not here!
Others can be in politics or other sections!

And your claim that God only looks the heart not the outward appearance is false!

By their fruit you shall know them. A good fruit will produce a good tree and you'll see the manifestation of that tree as good!

AllenSpencer:
Odukoya was not smart and didn’t plan towards his demise.

Why I respect Oyedepo’s business sense. No one can challenge his son in an eventuality, and heard he has publicly made it known.

So Bishop abioye is wasting his time??

Solsix:
So Bishop abioye is wasting his time??

Kind of.


The father did not lay the foundation.

AllenSpencer:
Kind of.


The father did not lay the foundation.

Lol. This is not funny, if they make mistake with successor, the church will collapse

AntiChristian:
What do you expect them to condemn in religion section?

you mean, religion is only reserved to condemn offences related to cultures while ethics are reserved to the real world?
If that is the case, what is the essence of religion to the society that is consist of the real world?

But contrary your cultures and traditions, this is what Jesus teaches

Matthew 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread(just like church traditions or religions forbidding tattoo and dreadlocks).
Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
Matthew 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother(Ethics): and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

I wonder how you guys who profess to have the holy spirit communicate like toddlers!

well, real toddlers are the ones finding it difficult to distinguish between ethical laws and traditional laws and to decide, which one of the two laws should be upholded first on a situation where they clash

Child trafficking would be in crime section not here!

really?
So assuming a news is carried that a popular pastor trafficks a child. Then it should not be condemned or discussed here on religious section?

Others can be in politics or other sections!

there are cases where pastors and Imams were outspoken against the excesses of some politicians, so that shouldn't be the case?
Only politicians should condenm politicians, is that what you are saying?

And your claim that God only looks the heart not the outward appearance is false!

that's not what i said!
I said that the church do not consist of anything physical. Rather, the church is the spirit in us.

John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her,Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

Mountain was a physical place of worship. The church shouldn't be seen as such
The same thing applies to the man on dreadlocks or tatoo.
His dreadlocks or tattoo has nothing to do with the church.

If there are any consequences or punishment from God for keeping dreadlocks or tatoo, let him alone face it. He is entitled to it

By their fruit you shall know them. A good fruit will produce a good tree and you'll see the manifestation of that tree as good!

yeh!

You know, the African cultural mind-set looks very good in you

Look, i think there are good African cultures we should imbibe. But certainly, not this one the op has presented here .

PFN and CAN in trouble ke '
over what?
Tatoo and dreadlocks!

He must be a joke

Solsix:
Lol. This is not funny, if they make mistake with successor, the church will collapse

Who I said the father made a mistake. He should have laid it out before death.

Such can never happen in Winners. Everyone already knows that Oyedepo’s son is next in line.

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22o62021:
Have you not seen oyibo preachers with tattoos?

Search online and you would see

The church is all about business, Olukoya handing it to someone outside his family will collapse his business structure.
He had to pass it over to his son. He knew his son has dreadlocks and tattoos before his death.

Their members are not complaining

Odukoya, not Olukoya, please.

VictorGlory:
The Bible says old things are passed away and all things have become new. Let whatever he has done stay in the past, stay in the past! We've heard stories of armed robbers, serial killers and prostitutes who gave their lives to Christ and the church and even Christ Himself welcomed them with open hands.

As regards his tattoos, how do you expect him to undo them? Tear up his skin or what? It's only Nigerian churches that attach too much importance to the physique, our heart is what matters to God. You can be a pastor on low-cut, always dressed in a suit and tie, no tattoo, no piercing, and your heart is far away from God. He doesn't even recognize you.

If they are truly passed away, then it should not be seen.

22o62021:
Have you not seen oyibo preachers with tattoos?

Search online and you would see

The church is all about business, Olukoya handing it to someone outside his family will collapse his business structure.
He had to pass it over to his son. He knew his son has dreadlocks and tattoos before his death.

Their members are not complaining

These are the reasons why pastors are hell bound.

paxonel:
Wetin concern PFN concern CAN for unserious things like Tatoo and dreadlocks sef

And when are you Nigerians going to realize that the church do not consist of anything physical like the human body, tatoo, dreadlocks, congregation, church building and it altar, etc?
Rather, the church is the spirit in you, therefore whatever physical ordinances, doctrines or beliefs you chose to practice, you are entitled to it and you will be held held responsible only if such beliefs, doctrines, ordinances goes against the law?

For this ignorance, you will always find yourselves dedicating your quality time condemning what is not important.
Meanwhile, the number of out-of-school children is becoming alarming, you will not condemn that one.
Inadequate governmental policies on food production, job insecurity and poverty alleviation is there, you will not condemn that one.
Yahoo Yahoo or internet fraud rate is surging among young people, you will not condemn that one.
Illegal migration and child trafficking is common among you, you will not condemn that.

Omo! wetin do us like this as a people?

So prostituttes and weed smokers can open a church eh? Any way people ought to know that those places are not churches of God but event centres.

Dtruthspeaker:
So prostituttes and weed smokers can open a church eh?

by the way, is there any church in Nigeria that do not have atom of weed smoking?
Mention it lets see!

Is it that one that all their members do shake their heads and hold their waste in unism saying one thing for hours?
Or is it the white garments that sometimes make cyclic movment's calling HOLY MICHAEL in a position like flock of fowls suffering from Newcastle desease?
Or is it the ones tyeing banners on streets with loud speakers and some walking bare foots
Or the ones being told 6 people should come out to donate one million each, followed by 10 people to donate five hundred thousand, and another 18 people fifty thousand each, then eventually everyone should have something to donate. and the rest of the church will come out with atleast, their hundred naira, five hundred naira, fifty naira, and even their android phones and i phones?

Any way people ought to know that those places are not churches of God but event centres.

that is your own opinion!

As far as they are concern ,it is their church.
God has ordained the church no matter what you think they do.
It is between them and God, not you.

So your opinion holds no water

Dtruthspeaker:
These are the reasons why pastors are hell bound.

come throw them put for hell now, make we see

Is it ya church?
Is it ya God?

No qualms. He is a leader of an end time church. Soon yahoo boys, oloshos, gays, lesbians will fill the church.


Christian faith is a free religion. Christians' Christianities.

Orisirisi ona ni ile alagbara.

VictorGlory:
The Bible says old things are passed away and all things have become new. Let whatever he has done stay in the past, stay in the past! We've heard stories of armed robbers, serial killers and prostitutes who gave their lives to Christ and the church and even Christ Himself welcomed them with open hands.
As regards his tattoos, how do you expect him to undo them? Tear up his skin or what? It's only Nigerian churches that attach too much importance to the physique, our heart is what matters to God. You can be a pastor on low-cut, always dressed in a suit and tie, no tattoo, no piercing, and your heart is far away from God. He doesn't even recognize you.

The major ever-changing compass of your churches has absolutely nothing to do with God and especially nothing to do with Jesus Christ whose declarations remain the same today as it was 2000 years ago.

If Jesus Christ is who you really want, then you should know to walk away from serving the whims of men in order to follow Him.

AllenSpencer:
■ Odukoya was not smart and didn’t plan towards his demise. Why I respect Oyedepo’s business sense. No one can challenge his son in an eventuality, and heard he has publicly made it known.

So, even if both pass it on down to their own kids, you assume one to be smarter than the other? The way you people openly talk like people wey no get sense at all ehn, e dey baffle person.

Kobojunkie:
So, even if both pass it on down to their own kids, you assume one to be smarter than the other? The way you people openly talk like people wey no get sense at all ehn, e dey baffle person.

It’s business, and one was smarter than the other!

So you feel it’s sane for the family wealth to transit to a nobody in the name of spirituality.

Hello, no matter how they try to disguise it, the church is a family empire.

AllenSpencer:
■ t’s business, and one was smarter than the other! So you feel it’s sane for the family wealth to transit to a nobody in the name of spirituality. Hello, no matter how they try to disguise it, the church is a family empire.

There is nothing smarter about any of them. There is no tell if one Business will survive or die out.

This spiritual bullsheet you two keep throwing around was fed your by those business men you call your pastors and mogs, and does not go anywhere past that.

Kobojunkie:
There is nothing smarter about any of them. There is no tell if one Business will survive or die out.

This spiritual bullsheet you two keep throwing around was fed your by those business men you call your pastors and mogs, and does not go anywhere past that.

The late Odukoya worked for his empire, let the son take over.

Spirituality did not build the church but sweat. A nobody should not reap where he/she did not sow.

AllenSpencer:
The late Odukoya worked for his empire, let the son take over.
■ Spirituality did not build the church but sweat. A nobody should not reap where he/she did not sow.

So why were you pretending one was smart while the other wasn't in some way when you know it is all family business.

Yep, it is all just men building their kingdoms here on earth and nothing more. Vanity upon vanity!

Kobojunkie:
So why were you pretending one was smart while the other wasn't in some way when you know it is all family business.

Yep, it is all just men building their kingdoms here on earth and nothing more. Vanity upon vanity!

I said so because, it should have been laid out prior to his demise.

AllenSpencer:
■ I said so because, it should have been laid out prior to his demise.

No be son dey inherit the man business again?

Kobojunkie:
No be son dey inherit the man business again?

You should know better.

In this case, it’s different.

paxonel:
come throw them put for hell now, make we see

Is it ya church?
Is it ya God?

Why you dey miss yarn? I talk say I dey come put them for hell?

As long as God don tell us all the type of people wey go go hell, and him dey dia, e don finish be dat!

paxonel:
by the way, is there any church in Nigeria that do not have atom of weed smoking?
Mention it lets see!

Those who want making a church which God did not Order are already in trouble.

paxonel:
As far as they are concern ,it is their church.
God has ordained the church no matter what you think they do.
It is between them and God, not you.

So your opinion holds no water

All these itself is your opinion and it does not even hold air not to talk of water.

For off point! we are not asking them their concern we are settling what is acceptable by God and for you to run and hide under the "your opinion" card just proves how you have nothing, for nairaland is already a box of opinions, so you do not have any valid thing to say.

Dtruthspeaker:
Why you dey miss yarn? I talk say I dey come put them for hell?

As long as God don tell us all the type of people wey go go hell, and him upon, e don finish be dat!

no!

God nor tell you anything!
Na you won decide for yourself say these people must go to hell simply because they are doing wrong, and that isn't realistic.

If you are doubting me, wait the next 3 or 4 years from now. We will visit these same churches matter again, you will always see that these churches will be waxed strong with more people becoming their member under the tattooed or dreadlocked pastor leadership.
This tells you that God is still backing them no matter what you think about them.

Infact, there are many pastors in Nigeria who have suffered controversial scandals in the past that were even more than tattoo or dreadlocks, their churches are still very strong today.
Nobody went to hell.

Trouble ke