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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 10:32pm On Oct 03, 2023 |
Olokpa ma ko everybody ni ....Make transcript of the deposition come out fess,make I no go beh ![]() |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 10:38pm On Oct 03, 2023 |
Male or female? Choose one.
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 10:40pm On Oct 03, 2023 |
Long night for agbadorians,jagabandits and faux neutrals |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 10:49pm On Oct 03, 2023 |
larride:You should forward that question to Tinubu and his attorneys. As that is the point Atiku's lawyers are making. The certified copy he submitted to INEC is being contested. CSU is saying whatever errors are found in that copy were likely clerical errors. Keyword is likely. Still, they refuse to authenticate it. And you continue this tired narrative about motive. That they issued him a diploma so he would not forge. But the man lost the original. And you can't fathom that he lost the replacement or he did not have access to it and he had to quickly scrounge up a fake that "matches the format" of similar certified copies issued at the time but had "clerical errors". Your hypothetical is factual. But the protestations by Atiku's attorneys are not credible. -Lord |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 11:18pm On Oct 03, 2023 |
Na so so bad news for FP today. Na the story below really touched me sha. Fictitious Jesus Christ, a failure yesterday, today, and forever. He no fit save his dear servant from this disaster. When he never even existed in real life. Na mere figment of imagination of the Christians.
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:32pm On Oct 03, 2023 |
[color=royalblue]Who lied? [/color]
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 11:56pm On Oct 03, 2023*. Modified: 6:36am On Oct 05, 2023 |
izzou:It's common knowledge the theorem wasn't discovered by Pythagoras now, at least to those that major in Math and Physics. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:09am On Oct 04, 2023 |
Caleb Westberg, the registrar of Chicago State University said the school was bombarded daily with many enquiries about its former student, President Bola Ahmed Tinubu. Giving the oral deposition ordered by Judge Maldonado to support the documents on President Bola Tinubu given to Atiku Abubakar, Westberg said the school receives between five and 30 enquiries daily about Tinubu. However, he said at no time did the school notify Tinubu about the flood of enquiries, ostensibly from Nigeria. “We believe Bola Tinubu who attended CSU is the same person who is the president of Nigeria today”, Westberg said during the deposition done on Tuesday in the office of Atiku’s lawyer, Angela Liu, at West Wacker Drive in Chicago. Five other lawyers from the firm Dechert LLP joined in the deposition. President Tinubu was represented by Victor P.Henderson and Oluwole Afolabi, who joined the session by zoom from New York. Michael Hayes appeared for Chicago State University. Pressed further by the battery of lawyers representing Atiku on why he believes the person who is the president of Nigeria is the same person who attended CSU, Westberg said Bola Tinubu is an unusual name in the US. He matched the Records in the file against the information provided by the student or on behalf of the student. On the controversy over whether the student the school admitted in 1977 ffrom South West College was a man on woman, Westberg said Tinubu applied to the university as a male and a letter of admission was issued to a male. On the certificates tendered in the documents given to Atiku, the registrar restated that the university only has Diplomas that students didn’t pick up in its possession. “The university does not typically keep Diplomas.I have the Diploma that was made available to Mr. Enahoro-Ebah in our possession because Mr. Tinubu did not pick it up. “I do not have the Diploma that was submitted to INEC in our possession because he had picked it up.’ “Why would Mr. Tinubu request a Diploma and not pick it up or ask that it be sent to him?”, one of Atiku’s lawyers asked. Westberg replied: “You would have to ask him, that is Bola Tinubu”. Here are other things Westberg deposed to: “I’m not aware of any instance where CSU had been requested to certify a document.Mr. Wole Afolabi who was acting for President Tinubu insisted that the documents must be certified. Mr. Wole Afolabi is President Tinubu’s lawyer. Mr. Afolabi and Mr. Orr communicated by email. “I don’t recall seeing the emails. I don’t know if Jason Carter approved of the certification. Apart from Jason Carter I do not know anyone else who was involved in the process. “I went into Mr. Tinubu’s student’s file and produced the documents to Mr. Orr. I didn’t know that the documents would be certified. I don’t get involved in legal matters. “Mr. Tinubu requested that the documents be released to Mr. Afolabi for ‘legal proceedings’ The signature on the consent form is similar to the signature we have on record for Mr. Tinubu. “All of the certified documents came from CSU’s files. Nothing was handed over to us by Mr. Afolabi except for the FERPA form. CSU had never certified documents for anyone before. It must have been made because there was more of a Nigerian thing. “The documents were released in pursuance of a FERPA request. I believe Mr. Afolabi requested that the documents be certified. I’m not aware if the stamp affixed by Mr. Orr to the documents was an official document. It is not part of CSU practice. Atiku's fishing fails as Chicago State University finds diplomas matching Tinubu's “Mr. Orr later departed from CSU after these documents were certified.I don’t know if his departure was connected to the certification of the documents; but I don’t think it was. “Mr. Tinubu’s counsel did not prepare any affidavit for me. He didn’t draft anything for me. My statement that Mr. Bola Tinubu graduated from CSU was based on the transcripts in our possession. “I have never met Bola Tinubu. I have never seen him. He did not visit our campus. He does not donate money to the school. “In the US, Diplomas are considered merely ceremonial documents. In some other countries, it may be considered more. In the US, more reliance is placed on transcripts and not on Diplomas. “I did not rely on information from public records to come to the conclusion that President Bola Tinubu is the person who attended CSU. I am not aware that the FBI contacted CSU on whether Bola Tinubu attended CSU. “Between 1979 and when I assumed duties, CSU must have had at least 6 Registrars. I never spoke to Ms. Davies. Some policies have changed over the years. When there is a replacement Diploma, it is done by outside vendors. I don’t know who created Exhibit # 6. The institution decided that my name should not be typed on the ‘To whom it may concern’ letter because of the sheer volume of requests I was getting. “Before CSU, I was at UC, Berkeley and UC, Irving. I’m sure people make mistakes in data entry from time to time. Before this lawsuit I didn’t know anyone called Bola. “It was possible that someone assumes Bola to be a female and therefore marked the SouthWest Transcript as such. “I am familiar with the affidavit filed by OLAJIDE Adeniji. I don’t recall his gender.I don’t know if Atiku Abubakar is male or female but I heard is a male. I can’t tell by his name. “I checked the record and confirmed that OLAJIDE Adeniji and Bola Tinubu were at CSU at the same time. The person said he ran in a closely- contested race against Bola Tinubu for the leadership of the Accounting Student Union. “I see that he said the same person he ran against is now the president of Nigeria. The Bola Tinubu who attended Southwest College took Accounting courses. The Bola Tinubu who attended CSU also took Accounting courses. I see the address indicated for Bola Tinubu. It’s not far from CSU. I looked at the whole record in making the determination that the Bola Tinubu who is the president of Nigeria today is the same person who attended CSU. “The entries’1952’ and ‘1954’ could have been made in error. The person who attended Southwest College is the person who attended CSU. The courses taken by Bola Tinubu at Southwest and CSU are consistent. “Right after the entry ‘F’, the SSN entered indicated in the Southwest transcript is the same as the one that was indicated in CSU records. That is one of the indications that we use to identify students. A Social Security is a unique identifier. “I recognize Southwest College as a feeder school for CSU. Bola Tinubu graduated with Honours. It’s a GPA distinction. It is awarded to high performing students. Accounting is a rigorous Major. He graduated with Honours. Yes, certain students are more motivated than others. “The students who are more motivated go on to accomplish greater things in life. I’ve seen that. As far as I know, he’s the president of Nigeria. “There were materials in Mr. Tinubu’s records that show that he was a male. I see the application to CSU. Mr. Tinubu identified himself as a male. His letter of admission identified him as a male. It says: ‘Dear Mr. Tinubu’ “We know Mr. Tinubu’s Social Security number. It’s contained in his records. “I see the entry on APC’s website wherein President Bola Tinubu was said to have been born in Lagos on March 29, 1952. I don’t have a copy of the Diploma that was submitted to INEC so I can’t comment on it. “I am not aware of the fact that in the form that he submitted to INEC he claimed a different nationality or date of birth. “Yes, our records show that he was born on March 29th. One has ‘1954’ while the other shows ‘1952’ From time to time, people do make mistakes when making such entries”. https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2023/10/03/chicago-state-university-registrar-we-get-30-enquiries-a-day-on-tinubu-confirms-graduation/ |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 5:11am On Oct 04, 2023 |
Who read that ![]() |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:22am On Oct 04, 2023 |
I just woke up to this again. Raumdeuter make dem no delete this one as Arise delete their own o 🚨 Here we go!!! https://twitter.com/GazetteNGR/status/1709348537593380986?t=wx7kDu8TdtIDSZoOHu5azw&s=19 Ogwusigo, Olarigo 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:23am On Oct 04, 2023 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 5:43am On Oct 04, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Snr man. Good morning Nigeria time. Yeah, is clear Tinubu graduated but what Atiku is contesting in court is whether he submitted a forged certificate to INEC. He asked for one but he didn't pick it up. Reasons best known to our president. My question is, what can you make out of paragraph 19? |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by PDPGuy: 5:59am On Oct 04, 2023 |
What’s up with the Lekki airport project? Why hasn’t construction commenced on the project site? |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 6:09am On Oct 04, 2023 |
Spy360:There's a thread on FP that says otherwise. We'll soon know the truth sha, and I won't be surprised to find out that thread contains lies, which is the usual practice of APC. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:14am On Oct 04, 2023 |
Dem Don turn the whole cas3 to info4mation warfare. People's gazette go report one thing, TVC will report same in another way. Some fairly independent media outlet are confused and reporting with both sides of the mouth. Las Las na to wait the whole thing out and follow the mouth of either pro-Tibubu or Pro-Atiku outlet ( Because the case is obviously between Tinubu and Atiku) |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:33am On Oct 04, 2023 |
Spy360:Quote the exact statement the CSU official made that agrees with what your source allege |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:33am On Oct 04, 2023 |
A001:Ask anyone to quote the specific words of the CSU rep that denied Tinubus certificate |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:38am On Oct 04, 2023 |
monerozi5590:The key points are in bold Caleb Westberg, the registrar of Chicago State University said the school was bombarded daily with many enquiries about its former student, President Bola Ahmed Tinubu. Giving the oral deposition ordered by Judge Maldonado to support the documents on President Bola Tinubu given to Atiku Abubakar, Westberg said the school receives between five and 30 enquiries daily about Tinubu. However, he said at no time did the school notify Tinubu about the flood of enquiries, ostensibly from Nigeria. “We believe Bola Tinubu who attended CSU is the same person who is the president of Nigeria today”, Westberg said during the deposition done on Tuesday in the office of Atiku’s lawyer, Angela Liu, at West Wacker Drive in Chicago. Five other lawyers from the firm Dechert LLP joined in the deposition. President Tinubu was represented by Victor P.Henderson and Oluwole Afolabi, who joined the session by zoom from New York. Michael Hayes appeared for Chicago State University. Pressed further by the battery of lawyers representing Atiku on why he believes the person who is the president of Nigeria is the same person who attended CSU, Westberg said Bola Tinubu is an unusual name in the US. He matched the Records in the file against the information provided by the student or on behalf of the student. On the controversy over whether the student the school admitted in 1977 ffrom South West College was a man on woman, Westberg said Tinubu applied to the university as a male and a letter of admission was issued to a male. On the certificates tendered in the documents given to Atiku, the registrar restated that the university only has Diplomas that students didn’t pick up in its possession. “The university does not typically keep Diplomas.I have the Diploma that was made available to Mr. Enahoro-Ebah in our possession because Mr. Tinubu did not pick it up. “I do not have the Diploma that was submitted to INEC in our possession because he had picked it up.’ “Why would Mr. Tinubu request a Diploma and not pick it up or ask that it be sent to him?”, one of Atiku’s lawyers asked. Westberg replied: “You would have to ask him, that is Bola Tinubu”. Here are other things Westberg deposed to: “I’m not aware of any instance where CSU had been requested to certify a document.Mr. Wole Afolabi who was acting for President Tinubu insisted that the documents must be certified. Mr. Wole Afolabi is President Tinubu’s lawyer. Mr. Afolabi and Mr. Orr communicated by email. “I don’t recall seeing the emails. I don’t know if Jason Carter approved of the certification. Apart from Jason Carter I do not know anyone else who was involved in the process. “I went into Mr. Tinubu’s student’s file and produced the documents to Mr. Orr. I didn’t know that the documents would be certified. I don’t get involved in legal matters. “Mr. Tinubu requested that the documents be released to Mr. Afolabi for ‘legal proceedings’ The signature on the consent form is similar to the signature we have on record for Mr. Tinubu. “All of the certified documents came from CSU’s files. Nothing was handed over to us by Mr. Afolabi except for the FERPA form. CSU had never certified documents for anyone before. It must have been made because there was more of a Nigerian thing. “The documents were released in pursuance of a FERPA request. I believe Mr. Afolabi requested that the documents be certified. I’m not aware if the stamp affixed by Mr. Orr to the documents was an official document. It is not part of CSU practice. Atiku's fishing fails as Chicago State University finds diplomas matching Tinubu's “Mr. Orr later departed from CSU after these documents were certified.I don’t know if his departure was connected to the certification of the documents; but I don’t think it was. “Mr. Tinubu’s counsel did not prepare any affidavit for me. He didn’t draft anything for me. My statement that Mr. Bola Tinubu graduated from CSU was based on the transcripts in our possession. “I have never met Bola Tinubu. I have never seen him. He did not visit our campus. He does not donate money to the school. “In the US, Diplomas are considered merely ceremonial documents. In some other countries, it may be considered more. In the US, more reliance is placed on transcripts and not on Diplomas. “I did not rely on information from public records to come to the conclusion that President Bola Tinubu is the person who attended CSU. I am not aware that the FBI contacted CSU on whether Bola Tinubu attended CSU. “Between 1979 and when I assumed duties, CSU must have had at least 6 Registrars. I never spoke to Ms. Davies. Some policies have changed over the years. When there is a replacement Diploma, it is done by outside vendors. I don’t know who created Exhibit # 6. The institution decided that my name should not be typed on the ‘To whom it may concern’ letter because of the sheer volume of requests I was getting. “Before CSU, I was at UC, Berkeley and UC, Irving. I’m sure people make mistakes in data entry from time to time. Before this lawsuit I didn’t know anyone called Bola. “It was possible that someone assumes Bola to be a female and therefore marked the SouthWest Transcript as such. “I am familiar with the affidavit filed by OLAJIDE Adeniji. I don’t recall his gender.I don’t know if Atiku Abubakar is male or female but I heard is a male. I can’t tell by his name. “I checked the record and confirmed that OLAJIDE Adeniji and Bola Tinubu were at CSU at the same time. The person said he ran in a closely- contested race against Bola Tinubu for the leadership of the Accounting Student Union. “I see that he said the same person he ran against is now the president of Nigeria. The Bola Tinubu who attended Southwest College took Accounting courses. The Bola Tinubu who attended CSU also took Accounting courses. I see the address indicated for Bola Tinubu. It’s not far from CSU. I looked at the whole record in making the determination that the Bola Tinubu who is the president of Nigeria today is the same person who attended CSU. “The entries’1952’ and ‘1954’ could have been made in error. The person who attended Southwest College is the person who attended CSU. The courses taken by Bola Tinubu at Southwest and CSU are consistent. “Right after the entry ‘F’, the SSN entered indicated in the Southwest transcript is the same as the one that was indicated in CSU records. That is one of the indications that we use to identify students. A Social Security is a unique identifier. “I recognize Southwest College as a feeder school for CSU. Bola Tinubu graduated with Honours. It’s a GPA distinction. It is awarded to high performing students. Accounting is a rigorous Major. He graduated with Honours. Yes, certain students are more motivated than others. “The students who are more motivated go on to accomplish greater things in life. I’ve seen that. As far as I know, he’s the president of Nigeria. “There were materials in Mr. Tinubu’s records that show that he was a male. I see the application to CSU. Mr. Tinubu identified himself as a male. His letter of admission identified him as a male. It says: ‘Dear Mr. Tinubu’ “We know Mr. Tinubu’s Social Security number. It’s contained in his records. “I see the entry on APC’s website wherein President Bola Tinubu was said to have been born in Lagos on March 29, 1952. I don’t have a copy of the Diploma that was submitted to INEC so I can’t comment on it. “I am not aware of the fact that in the form that he submitted to INEC he claimed a different nationality or date of birth. “Yes, our records show that he was born on March 29th. One has ‘1954’ while the other shows ‘1952’ From time to time, people do make mistakes when making such entries”. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:42am On Oct 04, 2023 |
monerozi5590:1. CSU believes the person that graduated from their school is Tinubu the president. 2. Certificate/Diploma is not important in the United State. United State value official transcript. 3. CSU don't keep certificate of their students. All the certificate sample they gave to Atiku belongs to students who never picked it up. once a student collect his, the school wont have a copy. 4. A student can get a replacement certificate from a third party. It is accepted practice in the united state 5. School rely on Social security number for identification. The school believe the gender F in the South West college is an error because Bola is not a common name in the US which make it likely someone mistakenly type F. Since the Social security number says he is male , the gender on the south west college document is not important to the school. 6. The school believe Tinubu that went to South West college is the same Tinubu that was admitted. 7. On his date of Birth, they said the month and day which is consistent. That for the year of birth they have both 1952 and 1954 in their record. And such mistake is common. 8. Tinubu was a top student who made a distinction. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 6:58am On Oct 04, 2023 |
[color=royalblue]For Raumdeuter to be typing long long epistles, he must have been provoked. ![]() Nothing really would come out of this sha. [/color] |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 6:59am On Oct 04, 2023 |
You go explain explain explain with 100 paragraphs,NO EVIDENCE!!!!!! |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 7:00am On Oct 04, 2023 |
Raumdeuter ma fi ejo pawa leni |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 7:04am On Oct 04, 2023 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 7:04am On Oct 04, 2023 |
Enablers,admirers and well wishers of a serial certificate forger,come outside!!!
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olril18(m): 7:07am On Oct 04, 2023 |
raumdeuter:It’s now got so bad that news from pm news,reputable for being fake news merchants is now being being posted here. Bottom barrel thing🤣🤣 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olril18(m): 7:09am On Oct 04, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Agbado you go explain tayaaa no evidence 🤣🤣 Apari Dey bin wan make we take PM news serious😂😂 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olril18(m): 7:10am On Oct 04, 2023 |
He posted pm news but avoided the Gazette 🤣🤣😂 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olril18(m): 7:11am On Oct 04, 2023 |
Shameless people. Dem be vidic,dem fit defend anything 🤣🤣 Laisee messi always twisting and turning like orogun🤣🤣 Unaa no dey tire nii🤣🤣 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 7:20am On Oct 04, 2023 |
raumdeuter:This was the first thing I noticed as well. The registrar was not quoted. Would have been better to hear it as he said and not PG interpretation of what he said |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olril18(m): 7:23am On Oct 04, 2023 |
Itsrm:It’s only the punch I take serious and I will gladly wait till they report anything on this. But posting PM news known for 7th grade fake news merchants is so funny 😆 |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 7:25am On Oct 04, 2023 |
APC miscreants are calling for reopening of Atiku’s FBI case gives a preliminary conclusion of the CSU deposition yesterday,e pain dem ...Today go long |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 7:26am On Oct 04, 2023 |
A001:Registered as a female, graduated as a male.
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