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Joebie:
Oya tell me what his replacement, Pedro Pinho, do in 31 mins.

AndSunGorilla:
Football is a team game sir and na question I ask una.

Joebie:
Oya tell me what his replacement, Pedro Pinho, do in 31 mins.

Icon4s:
I can picture a diamond midfield formation from this, in a 4-2-3-1 formation . I would rather go for a creative attacking midfielder at the tip. I saw what Ndidi did today in the English championships but we know when it comes to the national team it is a different ball game. I will rather confine Ndidi to his traditional DM position.
cc: Mujtahida

Joebie:
He must have been substituted for tactical reasons. However, there were other substitutions. Unless you watched the match yiu can’t draw any conclusions as to what subs/tactics helped to earn them the 3 points.

charlesemeka85:
iwobi is creative enough to play the CAM position

Kog45:
This is the reason why I said Hector Hernandez is the best Chaves player irrespective stats from fotmob,sofascore and whoscored

Kog45:
I watched the match and he did very well with assist but I need some broader analysis on stats which some always saying is not conclusive in rating players and to some that’s the yardstick.

Remember I said Hector Hernandez was the best Chaves player which you disagreed.Doctor TheSuperNerd brought rating out which showed I was wronged based on stats but going through Chaves rating on whoscored I saw Baptista Santos (Jo) who had 87 mins played this season on 7th position,based on this are we rating Jo as the 7th best Chaves player this season despite not making the team?

Sir,do you still rate Nwakali as the best Chaves player ahead of Hector Hernandez who is like what is Osimhen to Napoli in Chaves or is Osimhen not Napoli best player based on stats available on fotmob,sofascore and whoscored

Kog45:
The coach made five changes and it paid off.If he loses fans would’ve questioned his substitution.Football is a team sport so anytime player is called upon,meaning he must give out his best…Nwakali and Pinho did well.

AndSunGorilla:
Seems Nwakali was subbed out in the 59th minute after his team just equalized, was he injured? Or did the coach feel he needed other players to see off the remaining 31 mins? After the substitution, his team.went on to win by 4-2, scoring two more goals after his exit. For me, being subbed off at 59 minutes as a midfielder doesn't speak well except he's injured ot the coach is trying to preserve him.

AndSunGorilla:
Seems Nwakali was subbed out in the 59th minute after his team just equalized, was he injured? Or did the coach feel he needed other players to see off the remaining 31 mins? After the substitution, his team.went on to win by 4-2, scoring two more goals after his exit. For me, being subbed off at 59 minutes as a midfielder doesn't speak well except he's injured ot the coach is trying to preserve him.

TheSuperNerd:
"Irrespective of Stats" yet bringing up stats.

He is a striker. His job is to score. Nwakali set him up for one of those goals with a sweet cornerkick delivery. Another weapon we lack in the Super Eagles which is set piece utilisation.


Nwakali hasn't even bagged a goal in Portugal yet his stats ratings are as high as Hector whose ratings were boosted by his goals. That tells you the true picture. Nwakali is Chaves' Best player so far. Hector is just their goals getter and a good one too. At least, Nwakali now has a slightly better finisher in front of him and not the underpar strikers he had at Alcorcon, Huesca and Ponferradina.

Kog45:
Last time we had this discussion,you brought up statistics from fotmob and sofascore.

This made me to go through the same sites to have details analysis on Napoli players and saw that Osimhen was not even in top four when it’s glaring that Osimhen is the best in Napoli.

I went through Chaves rating too,then I brought it up for more broadening and attention of thegoodjoe.

Hector has won 3 MOTM this season and now a leading scorer.Yes with Nwakali two assists just like Abass two assists.

Accordingly today’s rating from fotmob,sofascore and whoscored Hector is the best Chaves player which you cited to back up your fact on Nwakali last time

My main point is that stats is not conclusive on player performances.

TheGoodJoe:

I have not watched lots of Napoli games to draw a conclusion who is the best.

However, when I talked on Chaves, I have watched the team. Playing as a striker and taking shots does not mean best.

Let us use Manchester City this season. I will point Rodri as our best player so far and then Julian Alvarez. This is purely based on eye test and how their contributions bring to an overall improvement of the team's performances.

Julian Alvarez drops deep, puts in tackles, makes interceptions, does tidy passwork, presses, gives assists etc. Has a strong claim for the best player so far.

While Rodri, defending work is super, makes tidy interceptions. He is the base of our offensive build up plays. He contributes a lot in getting the ball from the defensive section to the offensive section. His shooting contributions is also note.

So it is not just about playing a position but overall contribution.

Like in the last two games of Chaves, I rate Sanca as the best, due to his contribution. However, he needs to cut his selfishness because he leaves his team short when he is going for glory.

I have not seen Hector in that light for Chaves.

TheSuperNerd:
Yes, I brought up from different sources to show you that you aren't being truthful.

A MF who hasn't scored was already bagging better ratings than a striker who had scored by then. That tells you everything.

And now the only reason Hector has a slightly better rating is due to his recent hattrick. Nwakali's ratings are still just as high.


Unbiasedly, having watched Chaves this season, it is clear that Nwakali has way more influence on their plays than Hector.

Kog45:
I think introduction of Abass changed the game cuz he gave Hector Hernandez more spaces to operate,with Pinho and Ribeiro covering the middle.

Kog45:
Sir,by statistics by fotmob,sofascore or your general viewpoint.

charlesemeka85:
iwobi is creative enough to play the CAM position

kendrick9:
There's nothing creative about Iwobi...
He's 27 and no one can tell what exactly the position he plays...

TheSuperNerd:
Kog45, check this out. Let me give you one of many stats perspectives.

Hector, a striker, has 7 goals in the league right. Plus he has missed 4 big chances.

Well Kelechi Nwakali, a midfielder, has created 16 chances in that team in just 8 games. That is more than the total number of goals scored and Big Chances missed by Hector.

Hector Goals+Big Chances missed = 11

Kelechi Chances Created/Key passes = 16

Now Hector has played 720 mins while Nwakali has played 550mins yet the above-stated is the case.

The right balance of eye test and stats interpretations paints you the correct picture not limited to just Goals/Assists.

joxxy01:
abeg o, any injury wey any of our player want go, let dem go it now o... not later in the year

zicky:
and someone want us to believe championship is better than many top league. Even luton town in the Premiership will lose to Chaves.

TheSuperNerd:
Kog45, check this out. Let me give you one of many stats perspectives.

Hector, a striker, has 7 goals in the league right. Plus he has missed 4 big chances.

Well Kelechi Nwakali, a midfielder, has created 16 chances in that team in just 8 games. That is more than the total number of goals scored and Big Chances missed by Hector.

Hector Goals+Big Chances missed = 11

Kelechi Chances Created/Key passes = 16

Now Hector has played 720 mins while Nwakali has played 550mins yet the above-stated is the case.

The right balance of eye test and stats interpretations paints you the correct picture not limited to just Goals/Assists.

komekn:
What about Fikayo Tomori he is arguably the best defender in AC Milan.

The issue is not Milan but Chukwueze better team better player's he needs to step up .

Kog45:
Sir with your point,meaning Osimhen is not Napoli best player.

TheGoodJoe:
It was simply a tactical change. Drawing level meant the opposition was going to come at them to try to steal a win. So, he changed shape to get a more defensive positional setup and try to sucker punch a win with counters.

komekn:
Chaves will not beat a single Championship team and will struggle in League one and find themselves in League two .