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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:49pm On Oct 08, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
That is untrue. You are doing your best to miss the point and twist the narrative. In Osimhen's case, I compiled the stats of how many points his goals won Napoli time and again. I dropped them on this thread time and again but as usual, you didn't pay attention since you have eyes only for Awoniyi Stats.

Osimhen had more matchwinners than most. And he was clearly Napoli's best player with not just 26 goals and 24 big chances missed but also 34 key passes as a striker. Kvara has 54 key passes as Napoli's main creative force.

Also, Osimhen was Golden Boot Winner and he clearly was the heart and soul of that Napoli attack. WE ALL SAW THAT including YOU. So why make such unrelated analogy? Funny.
Mind you I don’t even know much about Awoniyi stats details than sensational headlines like wise other players.

What you guys brings here is what I rely on most but I needed to go deep on stats regarding Chaves cus it was your referenced in our last discourse

My point here is this current season not last season

If you believed Osimhen is the best and Hector is not the best in Chaves even go by last season then something is amiss.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:03pm On Oct 08, 2023
Kog45:
Mind you I don’t even know much about Awoniyi stats details than sensational headlines like wise other players.

What you guys brings here is what I rely on most but I needed to go deep on stats regarding Chaves cus it was your referenced in our last discourse

My point here is this current season not last season

If you believed Osimhen is the best and Hector is not the best in Chaves even go by last season then something is amiss.
Lol... too much talking twists.

Mister Kog, you said without proper research that Hector was Chaves' Best player so far this season and TheGoodJoe and I opposed such notion because it shows you aren't exactly watching enough of Chaves this season. It's funny how you claim to have watched Chaves games and even labelled Nwakali as average in two of those games when he actually did above average. I proved it from a Stats perspective as well aside eye test.

Stats ratings were brought in to prove a point then that a midfielder having higher ratings at that point in the season already than a striker you call the best shows that you were wrong.


Now you are here bringing it back because Hector scored a Hattrick. Ofcos his ratings were gonna go up. He is a striker.

The POINT is Nwakali has been far more crucial to Chaves this season so far than Hector. Even in the last game where he bagged a hattrick just yesterday, Hector made the least touches of all players on the pitch to play 90mins. He wasn't as influential in other phases of plays. See below...

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:08pm On Oct 08, 2023
And on this season, with respect to Osimhen, I haven't even said anything. I quoted last season's stats for him and Kvara to prove my point. I clearly referred to his record breaking season, last season.

But since you want to use the current season...

Then let me ask you... who is Napoli's best player this season so far? Especially with Kvara only recently breaking his drought in their last 2 league games after a 19 games goal drought for an attacking winger. So who is it since you want to use that to water down Nwakali's influence on that Chaves team? Answer.

Kog45:
Mind you I don’t even know much about Awoniyi stats details than sensational headlines like wise other players.

What you guys brings here is what I rely on most but I needed to go deep on stats regarding Chaves cus it was your referenced in our last discourse

My point here is this current season not last season

If you believed Osimhen is the best and Hector is not the best in Chaves even go by last season then something is amiss.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:13pm On Oct 08, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Kog45, check this out. Let me give you one of many stats perspectives.

Hector, a striker, has 7 goals in the league right. Plus he has missed 4 big chances.

Well Kelechi Nwakali, a midfielder, has created 16 chances in that team in just 8 games. That is more than the total number of goals scored and Big Chances missed by Hector.

Hector Goals+Big Chances missed = 11

Kelechi Chances Created/Key passes = 16

Now Hector has played 720 mins while Nwakali has played 550mins yet the above-stated is the case.

The right balance of eye test and stats interpretations paints you the correct picture not limited to just Goals/Assists.
This post alone should have ended the argument but Kog45 wants to prove a point because of a hattrick. 😁😁

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 1:15pm On Oct 08, 2023
Chukwueze horrible at Milan? No end products? lol! I am certain you don't watch Milan games! Against Cagliari and Newcastle he was clearly Milan best player in the first 45 minutes. Gave Loftus and Musah two very good balls they should have scored from. Against Castle Leo went for a backheel instead of a simple pass to Chuks to score. Yesterday in the first two minutes, he gave Okafor a fantastic pass that put him 1v1 with the goal keeper but Okafor failed to simply trap the ball. Chukwueze goals will come. When you have a guy like Pulisic that just seems to fail at everything except the most important things (scoring goals) you can begin doubting yourself. Chukwueze had better dribbles, better passes but the Milan players simply fails to convert his passes to goals. Yes, he has not being outstanding but he has been good!
drDoom3:
He has been horrible at Milan. Super low in confidence, not decisive enough. Even his dribbling has been so ineffective, not to talk about end product. He needs to add that aggressiveness and directness guys like Salah and Saka have.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:16pm On Oct 08, 2023
Meanwhile.... Raphael Onyedika is in ACTION in Belgium. Seems to have shaken off that knock he picked up vs Bodø Glimt in the Europa Conference League.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 1:18pm On Oct 08, 2023
Chuba Akpom on the bench for Ajax
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nigeriagood(m): 1:35pm On Oct 08, 2023
Sandro tonali in the attack for Newcastle interesting tactic
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:56pm On Oct 08, 2023
Akor Jerome Adams starts for Montpellier vs Clermont Foot in Ligue 1.

Ademola Lookman on the bench for Atalanta away at Lazio in Serie A.

Samson Tijani on the bench fpr Wolfsberger AC vs Stum Graz in the Austrian Bundesliga.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:01pm On Oct 08, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Akor Jerome Adams starts for Montpellier vs Clermont Foot in Ligue 1.

Ademola Lookman on the bench for Atalanta away at Lazio in Serie A.

Samson Tijani on the bench fpr Wolfsberger AC vs Stum Graz in the Austrian Bundesliga.
No be this same Tijani many here dey recommend to the snr national team to replace ndidi and others 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 2:44pm On Oct 08, 2023
Boniface na baller !!!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:45pm On Oct 08, 2023
AndSunGorilla:
Thanks sir. So based on your response, are you insinuating that Nwakali isn't the right personnel to help his team adjust to a more defensive set up to help preserve a draw or a win? Also, does it mean he's not built for sucker punching with long accurate passes?
Keep in mind that Chaves is a team not versed in playing creatively. To control the game and maintain possession under a fury of attacks, it takes more than one player. So it is best in such situations to select a group that purely defend and hit the ball to spaces for counters. It does not tell negatively of the player being removed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lovewins: 2:45pm On Oct 08, 2023
Boniface is good abeg
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 2:46pm On Oct 08, 2023
Boniface is not human! What a playerrrr!! See skills!! This guy is meant for the topmost top!! Load of goals will come with time!! We are lucky to have him!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:56pm On Oct 08, 2023
Kog45:
Sir,my point if we go by stats then Osimhen is not Napoli best player which I will never agree to

I have not watched more of Napoli this season but it takes contributions in multiple areas to pick the best players of teams.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:58pm On Oct 08, 2023
Kog45:
Wow!Enugu Ranger fc ready for flight ✈️ to play Remi star…am impressed.

CC: BascoVanVeli
Well it's not new to take flights nowadays but wat a fly looking bunch of guys grin the suits were a brilliant Touch.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:58pm On Oct 08, 2023
Marjoribanks:
Boniface is not human! What a playerrrr!! See skills!! This guy is meant for the topmost top!! Load of goals will come with time!! We are lucky to have him!!
Xabi will take him to Madrid

If Napoli get sense mk dem sell osimhen for summer and buy bony as his replacement
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:01pm On Oct 08, 2023
zicky:
Chaves can lose to all teams in championship or league one, But they will surely beat luton town and Burnley in the Premiership
Nooo. Burnley will thrash Chaves blue-black.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:03pm On Oct 08, 2023
Ajax dey collect mending at home for AZ hand 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


For what they did to my boy bassey they will never remain the same IJN 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:04pm On Oct 08, 2023
TheGoodJoe:
Nooo. Burnley will thrash Chaves blue-black.
Burnley go rape dem 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Even Preston and Ipswich go murd them
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 3:05pm On Oct 08, 2023
Mujtahida:
TheGoodJoe, Chriskels, charlesemeka85, Icon4s, Kog45, what do you guys think of a technical approach where a coach deploys a destroyer at the tip of the midfield trio (with one CAM) to disrupt and put pressure on the opponents defense as well as deploy another destroyer at the base of the defense to shield the back four/three
As in Ndidi as destroyer(midfield attacking destroyer) at the tip. Iwobi as CAM and Onyeka as CDM?
Any formation that would accommodate VB and VO up front, with Ndidi as the CM-destroyer, Iwobi as the AM and Raph Onyedika as the DM will be welcomed by me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Tolulopefinest(m): 3:05pm On Oct 08, 2023
Bayern Leverkusen plays one of the best football style in the world this season.

They will win the Bundesliga this season.

I'll come back to this comment by the end of the season shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 3:06pm On Oct 08, 2023
charlesemeka85:
Xabi will take him to Madrid

If Napoli get sense mk dem sell osimhen for summer and buy bony as his replacement
Napoli will be a bad move for VB. AC Milan messed up letting him slip, but I'm glad he is doing it with B04
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:08pm On Oct 08, 2023
ChrisKels:
Napoli will be a bad move for VB. AC Milan messed up letting him slip, but I'm glad he is doing it with B04
Milan bleeped up big time
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Tolulopefinest(m): 3:08pm On Oct 08, 2023
Victor Boniface type of striker is rare.

The guy dey dribble like Okocha shocked

That's Osimhen best Partnership if we're going with 442
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:09pm On Oct 08, 2023
Tolulopefinest:
Bayern Leverkusen plays one of the best football style in the world this season.

They will win the Bundesliga this season.

I'll come back to this comment by the end of the season shocked
they play good football but Bayern will still win the league
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:09pm On Oct 08, 2023
That is one thing I don't like when discussing our youngsters. It is only very few who can make the step up immediately (e.g. Chukwueze when he broke out) but most of them need time to mature their game to a certain level.

Also, profiling of talents is very important for me and watching them grow to a level where even I can say, "...you know what, we need to be looking at this kid for the NT ASAP".

It is step by step. Arithmetic progress not geometric in most cases.

charlesemeka85:
No be this same Tijani many here dey recommend to the snr national team to replace ndidi and others 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:11pm On Oct 08, 2023
ChrisKels:
Any formation that would accommodate VB and VO up front, with Ndidi as the CM-destroyer, Iwobi as the AM and Raph Onyedika as the DM will be welcomed by me.
Keep in mind being outnumbered in midfield.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:14pm On Oct 08, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
That is one thing I don't like when discussing our youngsters. It is only very few who can make the step up immediately (e.g. Chukwueze when he broke out) but most of them need time to mature their game to a certain level.

Also, profiling of talents is very important for me and watching them grow to a level where even I can say, you know what, we need to be looking at this kid for the NT ASAP.

It is step by step. Arithmetic progress not geometric in most cases.
the problem with those who hype these players do that because of their past exploits in youth football and not base on current form

The person that made the recommendation haven’t even seen Tijani play for Salzburg before been shipped out on loan to his current club now 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 3:15pm On Oct 08, 2023
TheGoodJoe:
Keep in mind being outnumbered in midfield.
How do you get outnumbered in the midfied when you have Ndidi, Onyedika and Iwobi in that order as listed in the previous post?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:18pm On Oct 08, 2023
Tolulopefinest:
Victor Boniface type of striker is rare.

The guy dey dribble like Okocha shocked

That's Osimhen best Partnership if we're going with 442
why re you guys sticking to an outdated formation just to accommodate osimhen and any of bony, awo or nacho


Jpes greatest undoing will be trying to accommodate all of our attacking players just to please the fans. No serious team plays the 442 formation anymore

Even England blessed with Kane, watkins and co starts only Kane upfront while others comes in as subs in the second half if need arises
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:20pm On Oct 08, 2023
ChrisKels:
How do you get outnumbered in the midfied when you have Ndidi, Onyedika and Iwobi in that order as listed in the previous post?
Is it 3 at the back?
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