My response to an Aburo I love on this Israel issue with Christians.

You people by now should see that I am in no way a sentimental or tribalistic person. I try to treat everyone fairly. I do not rate any human above another

- My brother I will handle your points one after another.

1. Christians biblically are not related to this Israel. In fact Christians are the real Israel of God. God do not deal with that Physical Israel again, he has now a spiritual Israel which are the Christians. Jesus have long told this very Israel that “I long tried to gather you as hen gather her chicks but u do not want it, I have left your house to you.” This is why there are very few Christians in that Israel. In fact this physical Israel killed Jesus Christ.

2. Israel and Palestine’s have been attacking each other for more than 75 years. In fact. Israel have killed far more Palestinians than Palestinians have killed Israel.

3. Israel have large number of Palestinian prisoners before now.

4. Anybody can conquer Israel... in fact, Israel as been conquered and I can point each case out to you for about 30times. In fact they have been devastated a lot of time. For like 2000 years there was no political Israel.

Knowledge is essential bro. You might not have this biblical and historical knowledge I just showed u.

Israel and Palestinians are both human government and non is more important than the other. They should allow each other their rights and dignity

thinkmoney:
My response to an Aburo I love on this Israel issue with Christians.

You people by now should see that I am in no way a sentimental or tribalistic person. I try to treat everyone fairly. I do not rate any human above another

- My brother I will handle your points one after another.

1. Christians biblically are not related to this Israel. In fact Christians are the real Israel of God. God do not deal with that Physical Israel again, he has now a spiritual Israel which are the Christians. Jesus have long told this very Israel that “I long tried to gather you as hen gather her chicks but u do not want it, I have left your house to you.” This is why there are very few Christians in that Israel. In fact this physical Israel killed Jesus Christ.

2. Israel and Palestine’s have been attacking each other for more than 75 years. In fact. Israel have killed far more Palestinians than Palestinians have killed Israel.

3. Israel have large number of Palestinian prisoners before now.

4. Anybody can conquer Israel... in fact, Israel as been conquered and I can point each case out to you for about 30times. In fact they have been devastated a lot of time. For like 2000 years there was no political Israel.

Knowledge is essential bro. You might not have this biblical and historical knowledge I just showed u.

Israel and Palestinians are both human government and non is more important than the other. They should allow each other their rights and dignity

1.Christians are related to Israel because Christians say they serve the god of Israel called Yahweh same god Israelites serve.



2. Christians are related to Israel because both Christians and Israelites serve the same peace loving god. See Numbers 31:17–18 — King James Version

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

3. Christians are related to Israel because both Christians and Israelites serve the same god that permits and endorses slavery. See Exod 21:2-11; Lev 25:44-46

Palestinians are not ready for a two-state solution.

They have been given Gaza and yet they keep Fighting why......beacuse what they want is that the promise land that what given to Abraham should be given to them.

The Arabs want the Jews to be exterminated.

Do Jews believe that Jesus is God?
The answer is NO!

Do Jews believe Jesus is the son of God?
The answer is NO?

So in what way are they related to Christians?

Zxcvbnmghtr:
Do Jews believe that Jesus is God?
The answer is NO!

Do Jews believe Jesus is the son of God?
The answer is NO?

So in what way are they related to Christians?

Do Muslims believe Jesus is the son of God?
No.

Does the land of canaan belong to the Arabs?
No.

So in what way are they claiming what does not belong to them?

BobbieZion:


Do Muslims believe Jesus is the son of God?
No.

Does the land of canaan belong to the Arabs?
No.

So in what way are they claiming what does not belong to them?

According to Jesus Christ being God or according to the God of Israel? I hope you know that the two are not the same.

Abraham is a unifying factor between Arabs and Jews.

BobbieZion:
Palestinians are not ready for a two-state solution.

They have been given Gaza and yet they keep Fighting why......beacuse what they want is that the promise land that what given to Abraham should be given to them.

The Arabs want the Jews to be exterminated.

We should deal everytime in honesty and eschew bias. It’s the Israeli really that do not want a two state solution. They haven’t given any Palestine any Gaza or even west bank. Those two lands are still effectively colonies of Israel. In fact, Israel is actively and continuously chipping away the lands in west bank by constantly building Jewish settlements on the land

Zxcvbnmghtr:


According to Jesus Christ being God or according to the God of Israel? I hope you know that the two are not the same.

Abraham is a unifying factor between Arabs and Jews.

Shut it...
Did I tell you I was looking for a common denominator?

Yes from Abraham, Isaac then Jacob.

BobbieZion:


Shut it...
Did I tell you I was looking for a common denominator?

Yes from Abraham, Isaac then Jacob.

So, children of the same father. None who believe Jesus is God nor Son of God. Another common denominator.

thinkmoney:

We should deal everytime in honesty and eschew bias. It’s the Israeli really that do not want a two state solution. They haven’t given any Palestine any Gaza or even west bank. Those two lands are still effectively colonies of Israel. In fact, Israel is actively and continuously chipping away the lands in west bank by constantly building Jewish settlements on the land

Beacuse it is their land.
Go history and read well..

Zxcvbnmghtr:


So, children of the same father. None who believe Jesus is God nor Son of God. Another common denominator.

That is why it is a family problem.
I no they ever support any side.....

BobbieZion:


Beacuse it is their land.
Go history and read well..

My brother who says it’s their land? The land America is on now was red indian land, so too is the case in Mexico, Canada and Brazil. Australia was was pigmys land. And this are just recent history of about 500 years ago.
The land everybody, Yoruba, Hausa and Igbos are now most probably belonged to other people in the past future. Those original inhabitants if they get to know they first settled in the land can’t come back to claim it now.
It’s you that should read history. Israeli Jews were away from that land for about 2000 years. In that time other people have settled it.
This Palestine aren’t the ones that pursued Israel from that land in the first place. Abi Israel produced any CoO?

thinkmoney:

My brother who says it’s their land? The land America is on now was red indian land, so too is the case in Mexico, Canada and Brazil. Australia was was pigmys land. And this are just recent history of about 500 years ago.
The land everybody, Yoruba, Hausa and Igbos are now most probably belonged to other people in the past future. Those original inhabitants if they get to know they first settled in the land can’t come back to claim it now.
It’s you that should read history. Israeli Jews were away from that land for about 2000 years. In that time other people have settled it.
This Palestine aren’t the ones that pursued Israel from that land in the first place. Abi Israel produced any CoO?

Does been away from the land for 2000 years stop it from been their own?
You now want to generalize.

BobbieZion post=126415380.:


Palestinians are not ready for a two-state solution.

They have been given Gaza and yet they keep Fighting why......beacuse what they want is that the promise land that what given to Abraham should be given to them.

The Arabs want the Jews to be exterminated.

The Fulanis have their traditional grazing lqnds and cattle trails ... most of which are now established farms and settlements. Do you support them reclaiming their lands? ... and allowing Igbos to settle on a few plots?

BobbieZion:


That is why it is a family problem.
I no they ever support any side.....

Exactly! Na family wahala.

Originalsly:


The Fulanis have their traditional grazing lqnds and cattle trails ... most of which are now established farms and settlements. Do you support them reclaiming their lands? ... and allowing Igbos to settle on a few plots?

Nobody owns grazing routes. They graze on other people's land. They have grazing reserves that where build years ago, but they decided to abandon it and wander.

BobbieZion:


Does been away from the land for 2000 years stop it from been their own?
You now want to generalize.

You are still blinded by religious bias. Ok do you know that the old Israelites met people in that land. Should those people now come back to claim it? Think?
Two thousand years of absence is a long time.
I gave u similar examples.
Now to even point out. It’s poor knowledge of the Bible that many Christians have now that make them rate this modern Israel. God looks at them like he looks at everyone including the Palestinian. Nothing special about them again.
-They do not have the David Royal family again. (It’s the Christians that have Jesus a descendant of David as their eternal King)
-they do not have the twelve tribes again. In fact none of the family in this present Israel can trace their genealogy like the ancient Israelites used to do.
- They do not have the ark of the convening again.
-They do not have the temple again so they can’t sacrifice. The but to the Christians Christ has been sacrificed for us once and for all time. The new temple is among the Christians. Every Christian is a temple to God now where daily spiritual sacrifices are made.
Israel like many things associated with them have served their purpose. Which was mainly to serve has a machine to bring forth Jesus that will provide us salvation and a road way back to God. God now doesn’t need a physical Israel again. His operation have graduated to spiritual and their is a spiritual Israel now and a new Jerusalem that descended from heaven. The true Christians make up this spiritual Israel. And like God promised Abraham, this new Israel can’t be counted like the sands of the beach and they are not limited by physical boundaries as they are in every countries even in Palestine.

thinkmoney:

You are still blinded by religious bias. Ok do you know that the old Israelites met people in that land. Should those people now come back to claim it? Think?
Two thousand years of absence is a long time.
I gave u similar examples.
Now to even point out. It’s poor knowledge of the Bible that many Christians have now that make them rate this modern Israel. God looks at them like he looks at everyone including the Palestinian. Nothing special about them again.
-They do not have the David Royal family again. (It’s the Christians that have Jesus a descendant of David as their eternal King)
-they do not have the twelve tribes again. In fact none of the family in this present Israel can trace their genealogy like the ancient Israelites used to do.
- They do not have the ark of the convening again.
-They do not have the temple again so they can’t sacrifice. The but to the Christians Christ has been sacrificed for us once and for all time. The new temple is among the Christians. Every Christian is a temple to God now where daily spiritual sacrifices are made.
Israel like many things associated with them have served their purpose. Which was mainly to serve has a machine to bring forth Jesus that will provide us salvation and a road way back to God. God now doesn’t need a physical Israel again. His operation have graduated to spiritual and their is a spiritual Israel now and a new Jerusalem that descended from heaven. The true Christians make up this spiritual Israel. And like God promised Abraham, this new Israel can’t be counted like the sands of the beach and they are not limited by physical boundaries as they are in every countries even in Palestine.

All this story too long now......

The land belongs to Abraham and his chosen descendants.

BobbieZion:


All this story too long now......

The land belongs to Abraham and his chosen descendants.

It’s because u can’t read long story that’s why u do not understand the truth in the Bible. Palestine’s too have claim to being from Abraham and their own Quran too says they have right to Palestine.
So who will tell who that it’s their own religion version that is correct?
God knows what he was doing to have allowed Israel to be away for 2000 years.
God have effectively ended whatever uniqueness and rights of this Israel has I pointed out to you that they do not have a lot of things the original Israel have. Know that God is wise and intentional.
Their is an Israel of God now and it is not this modern Israel. For y to be sure again, this Israel do not even serve the Christian God

BobbieZion:


Nobody owns grazing routes. They graze on other people's land. They have grazing reserves that where build years ago, but they decided to abandon it and wander.

Weren't they wandering before the grazing reserves were established?