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| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by AntiChristian: 5:41pm On Oct 21, 2023 |
FxMasterz:I would have loved if you can provide the witnesses in the last questions I asked you! Let's me answer your last question in a grand style! Make sure you sent the witnesses I requested before! 1) Capital Punishment Crimes: Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT) Kill Witches You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB) Kill Homosexuals “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB) Kill Fortunetellers A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB) Death for Hitting Dad Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB) Death for Cursing Parents 1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB) 2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT) Death for Adultery If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT) Death for Fornication A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB) Death to Followers of Other Religions Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB) Kill Nonbelievers They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) Kill False Prophets If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB) Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT) Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB) Kill Followers of Other Religions. 1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB) 2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT) Death for Blasphemy One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT) Kill False Prophets 1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, ‘Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,’ do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT) 2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.’ You may wonder, ‘How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?’ If the prophet predicts something in the LORD’s name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT) Infidels and Gays Should Die So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God’s death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT) Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle For the LORD had said to Moses, ‘Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.’ (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT) Kill People for Working on the Sabbath The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’ (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT) What do you think about all these? |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by FxMasterz: 6:07pm On Oct 21, 2023 |
AntiChristian:You see how you just exposed Allah as a wicked unforgiving being? All you quoted above were laws binding the nation of Israel who had a covenant with God, not a commandment to go and hurt outsiders. God did something for them first, then made a covenant with them and brought them into a Father and Children relationship with Him, then gave them laws of what He wants and hates. The laws are the tokens of God's covenant with His people. The punishments for breaking the laws are the punishments for breaking the covenant. That's not like Allah who did nothing for me, has no covenant with me, yet ordered you to kill me. He never even instructed you to teach me or bring me into full understanding of his ways. All he wants is for me to accept him as a god, and if I do not, I must be killed. That's Satan. That's not the Almighty God. The God of Israel instructed all Israelites to be taught from youth. Know the laws and their consequences from youth. So, if you break any law, you already know the punishments for it. The punishments were there as deterrents. No make people fear to sin. That's unlike Allah who instructed you to go kill those he sees as kafirs. That's Satan. Which witness question did you ask? Look for witnesses for mohammed. |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by AntiChristian: 6:12pm On Oct 21, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Having a covenant with God right! Great! When a non-muslim enters Islam he has a covenant with Allah too! When he leaves Islam then he breaks the covenant thereby can be killed in an Islamic state after the judge's pronouncement. So what nonsense are you saying? Where's the witnesses I asked earlier? |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by FxMasterz: 6:21pm On Oct 21, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Witnesses for what? You asked me for no witness. Have you provided a witness for Mohammed? Tell me why Allah ordered you to kill people with whom he has no covenant because they're not Muslims! |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by AntiChristian: 6:45pm On Oct 21, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Same reason the genocide occurred in Numbers 31:17-18 where only virgins were spared and even babies and infants were killed! Also Then I heard the Lord say to the other men, 'follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked....show no mercy, have no pity!!!.. Kill them all- old and young, girls and women and little children... Ezekiel 9 :5-7 Here the Biblical God says: A. Show no mercy! B. Have no pity! C. Kill old, young, girls, women and little children! Why? Because they were idolaters! Even little children? Yes! Another version! And as I listened, He said to the others, “Follow him through the city and start killing; do not show pity or spare anyone! Slaughter the old men, the young men and maidens, the women and children; but do not go near anyone who has the mark! Ehn! See the trend in Israel today! You get eyes to read! I sent this earlier but you missed them! AntiChristian: |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by FxMasterz: 7:16pm On Oct 21, 2023 |
AntiChristian:The verse you quoted in Ezekiel was a vision Ezekiel had! It was not an instruction. Just like sleeping and having a dream of impending danger where you saw someone ordering people to be killed. So, you would even refer to a dream or vision to promote your propaganda? That vision Ezekiel had was God's warning to Israel for committing the same abominations that the former inhabitants had committed. God was warning them that He would bring war upon them. When they refused to hearken, He did that exactly. That was what led to the Assyrian captivity. A very just Judge, No partiality at all. Allah does not come close. He ordered you into the whole world to kill anyone who is not a muslim. That's satan. Not God. |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by AntiChristian: 7:30pm On Oct 21, 2023 |
FxMasterz:So your God did that exactly killed babies ! Na Satan or God? You are a bigoted hypocrite! |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by FxMasterz: 7:46pm On Oct 21, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Hypocrite, That was a vision Ezekiel had. Visions have meanings and interpretations. While Ezekiel heard 'babies' in the vision, it is not literal. What the vision was saying is that there would be war and that everyone would suffer. That word 'baby' was heard in that dream so that the Israelites can retrace their steps back into righteousness considering that when war comes, it does not spare both young and old. That vision was telling them to have mercy on their own children; to repent to avert impending danger at least for the sake of these little ones. No matter what God must do justice. If God has punished the former inhabitants, Israel too must suffer if the commit the same sins and iniquities the former inhabitants suffered. No partiality. A just Judge. Are you as ignorant as your hypocrisy? |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by AntiChristian: 2:50am On Oct 22, 2023 |
FxMasterz:So babies were symbolic for what exactly? Who witnessed Jesus praying to God by putting his head on the floor in Matthew? Who witnessed God creating Adam and then Eve? Who witnessed the whole creation story in the Bible? Who witnessed Onan spill sperm when he had sex with his brother's wife in Genesis 38! Who witnessed Judah having sex with his daughter in law in harlotry? There are many scenes you believe in your Bible that has no witness but were simply recorded from hearsays! Luke 1:1-4! |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by AntiChristian: 2:52am On Oct 22, 2023 |
FxMasterz:I guess this rapes too were visions! Straight to the Point!What do you think of all these rapes? |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by TenQ: 3:02am On Oct 22, 2023 |
AntiChristian:I agree with you. Matters involving lies of Mohammed are unseen and thus require extraordinary faith in Mohammed. But you still have not answered my question. How did the other prophets (apart from Jesus and Mohammed) pray with Mohammed while their bodies were still in their grave? |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by TenQ: 3:05am On Oct 22, 2023 |
FxMasterz:In Islam, the bigger the lie, the better! |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by AntiChristian: 3:08am On Oct 22, 2023 |
TenQ:You should ask that in the after life. It's just like me asking you about the events that happened to Jesus when he was acclaimed to be dead for three days and three nights? Where was he and what was he doing for those 72 hours? |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by TenQ: 3:35am On Oct 22, 2023 |
AntiChristian:You can ask your questions and I will answer you. This question I ask because it contradicts some of what you teach in Islam. Christians do not dodge answering questions If these prophets are dead and their graves are on earth, 1. Was Mohammed's claim real or a vision? 2. Was Mohammed's claim a fabrication? 3. Even if it is a miracle, I is it a temporary miracle? If a person's body is in the grave, which reality of the prophets worshiped with Mohammed. |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by AntiChristian: 4:45am On Oct 22, 2023 |
TenQ:But you are still dodging the last question I asked! The claim was a real miracle and there's no fabrication! And all of Jesus's miracle was temporary! Even the dead he raised will eventually die! Remember to answer my question too! |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by TenQ: 8:01am On Oct 22, 2023 |
AntiChristian:You didn't phrase it like you wanted me to answer the questions. However, If the Question was about where Jesus went before His resurrection. 1Pet 3:19-20: "By which also he (Christ) went and preached to the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." In layman's terms, all those who died bound for damnation before Christ (even as far back to the generations of Noah) had an opportunity for salvation in Christ. Secondly, The miracles of Jesus were NOT temporary Miracles sir. The Blind, Dumb, Deaf, Crippled and Sick people healed by Jesus NEVER reverted back to their sickness. And if you are referring to raising of the dead, purpose of resurecting the dead was not that they remain alive forever on earth. NOW: Let's agree the event of Mohammed was a real miracle: Are you saying that these prophets were resurrected from the dead and if they resurected, when did they die again? Also, these prophets were also met in the seven heavens and as you claimed "paradise is of the unseen" : Were they 60 cubits tall? Did they appear bodily-physically to Mohammed in paradise? Islam usually break down when probed with questions! |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by AntiChristian: 9:00am On Oct 22, 2023 |
TenQ:This doesn't answer where Jesus went when he died for 72hours! What are those events that transpired with the biblical Jesus in that 72 hours? Secondly,Miracles are temporarily and last while humans last. Lazarus was raised but still had to die later! NOW:All of that happened as narrated in the respective Hadith and its a well understood miracle! And we have no doubt about them! |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by TenQ: 9:25am On Oct 22, 2023 |
AntiChristian:You wanted to know what happened during the time and I gave you a verse that showed that Jesus went to preach to those disobedient people long dead that they too might be saved. To justify your conjecture of temporariness you had to claim the temporariness of miracles like those of your prophet who split the moon and before people saw it, he quickly brought it back together. AntiChristian:I am not disputing your hadiths or Qur'an. are I am simply asking a question for comprehension purpose. The Questions again 1. Are you saying that these prophets were resurrected from the dead and if they resurected, when did they die again? 2. Also, these prophets were also met in the seven heavens and as you claimed "paradise is of the unseen" : Were they 60 cubits tall and Did they appear bodily-physically to Mohammed in paradise? |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by Antiislaam(m): 11:27am On Oct 22, 2023 |
Dey just like to defend muhammad falsely |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by FxMasterz: 9:27pm On Oct 22, 2023 |
AntiChristian:No one should take you serious anymore. Trying to quote scriptures upside down in order to justify Allah's commandments to you to kill anyone who's not a Muslim would not change that fact that Allah is Satan, Mohammed is a liar. His tales are fairy and he was nowhere suitable to be called a prophet. Ratter than being childish attacking the Bible aimlessly, find good reasons why Mohammed told all the lies he told. God didn't command any of the activities done at jabeshgilead, the people did that themselves. God never supported rape, you didn't establish anything to justify any of the subtopics. You were just quoting scriptures because you needed to. You didn't establish any point. The midianites committed a grievous offense before God ordered their punishment. God punishes specific people for specific sins. He didn't order anyone to go into all the world to kill those who are not serving Him. Only Satan does that. That's Allah. The simple issue that brought us here is that Mohammed lied. He never rode on any winged creature. He never visited the temple site. He never led anyone in prayers. He never rode any animal into heaven. The lies are obvious. You're just too brainwashed to believe them. |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by AntiChristian: 9:28pm On Oct 22, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Have you read each and every one of the above? You lied sha! God commanded it. |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by FxMasterz: 9:37pm On Oct 22, 2023 |
AntiChristian:You think I'll be dragged into your endless strays? You must be kidding. Those questions you're asking are already too dumb. I wouldn't join you in dumbness by telling you who witnessed God creating Adam or witnessed Jesus praying in Gethsemane. See questions. Mohammed had no witness for his false prophethood. No single signature of God on him. Period. Own it and go to sleep. |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by AntiChristian: 9:48pm On Oct 22, 2023 |
FxMasterz:I guess as much! Everything is clear now! |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by FxMasterz: 9:54pm On Oct 22, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Yeah. It's as clear as noon day that Mohammed was a liar. Since you couldn't defend him, you decided to attack the Bible instead. SMH. You mean Mohammed cannot be helped? Yet you keep following him unreasonably. If only your eyes were open, you would have seen that, that dude you called a prophet was a messanger of Satan. God never sends a prophet without putting His signature on him. |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by Explore2xmore: 7:46pm On Oct 26, 2023 |
Did Temples for worship exist in Jerusalem before the coming of Muhammad? Could the Muhammad pbuh praying with previous prophets have any essence? |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by akosy(m): 9:22am On Oct 29, 2023 |
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| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by iamrealdeji(m): 1:30pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Mumu. He was thoroughly examined by the best travelers and explorers of 7th century and the fact that he passed all the tests is one of the reasons why everybody in Saudi Arabia converted to Islam and the reason why Abubakri earned the title of Sidik. Before the thoroughly examination,many people left Islam because they thought the journey wasn't possible,but after the examination,they all came back into Islam. Don't think people of the past are fools, they're very smart. They wouldn't believe him if he has lied or failed the examination. Your conspiracy wi take you know where,Islam will keep growing and Christianity will keep declining as it is happening now according to research,meanwhile,Islam is world's fastest growing religion according to google |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by iamrealdeji(m): 1:39pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
TenQ:Mr Islamophobe. The beating of drums has today blinded your thinking. Ruined temple is the best place to pray. In fact you have enlightened me more and another reason for me to believe Prophet Muhammad ﷺ more. Allahu Akbar. May Allah bless the prophet. I used to think how did 124000 prophets fit into the temple. Thanks for enlightening me that the walls have ruined,delapidated walls and pillars would make a temple contain even millions of prophets,just the way we pray on field during Eid prayer. This is another sign that the Prophet was extremely honest and a man of honor. Thanks for letting me know the possibility and only way the temple was able to contain thousands of prophets. God definitely made the temple ruin because of the prayer of those thousands of prophets. Allahu Akbar. Mumu. He was thoroughly examined by the best travelers and explorers of 7th century and the fact that he passed all the tests is one of the reasons why everybody in Saudi Arabia converted to Islam and the reason why Abubakri earned the title of Sidik. Before the thoroughly examination,many people left Islam because they thought the journey wasn't possible,but after the examination,they all came back into Islam. Don't think people of the past are fools, they're very smart. They wouldn't believe him if he has lied or failed the examination. Your conspiracy wi take you know where,Islam will keep growing and Christianity will keep declining as it is happening now according to research,meanwhile,Islam is world's fastest growing religion according to google |
| Re: Mohammed Night Journey To The Temple Another Lie?. by TenQ: 2:02pm On Nov 03, 2023 |
iamrealdeji:Thank you very much Mr Deji for this your post. You think I hate Muslims : but far from it. I love you Muslims enough to show you facts of your own religion that will open your eyes to the one-chance you have entered. I am happy that at least you learnt that there wasn't any mosque or temple at Jerusalem because the Romans destroyed it to it's foundation 530 years before Mohammed. We are coming closer to the truth. Let's examine this going to the temple (Mosque) at Jerusalem. Was this a real occurences or a vision that Mohammed had? |
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