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lanre316:
One question:

Did God foreknew that Adam is going to fall and his fall would bring suffering upon billions of people yet unborn?

Yes

God knows all things.

He knew.

Understand this principle Bible said some people are actually created for destruction

And you don't have the right to question God about it

Actually God gives small explanation to why they are created to be destroyed

So that us that he selected to be saved will marvel and fear him and see how much he loved us which can not be measured.

Kingsnairaland:
Yes

God knows all things.

He knew.

Understand this principle Bible said some people are actually created for destruction

And you don't have the right to question God about it

Actually God gives small explanation to why they are created to be destroyed

So that us that he selected to be saved will marvel and fear him and see how much he loved us which can not be measured.

I rest my case.

Watcharena:
but it's morally wrong for one to punish others for another another man's sins.


Again if death is punishment for our since ,then it means there will be no judgement day after death so explain double punishment and why

First if you think a child born has not sin now ask yourself can they grow up and get old without having their own sin the answer is no

No that your logic did not over ride God's logic

So the same way God passed sin to all men due to Adam sin

That is the same way God passed righteousness and holiness to all those who believe in Jesus

So holiness is no longer by works but by merely believing in Jesus then Thou shall be saved

Because when Jesus died we all where inside him and we have paid our own sin wage which is death

That is how the Bible explains it..

Now to the second question

Bible shows there are two kinds of death since man is made up of soul body and spirit

So physical death is as a result of sin

Now there is another type of death called spiritual death this is eternal death separation from God this is death of been placed in hell which will be placed in the lake of fire

So if you did not die inside Jesus when he died then your spiritual death is going to be inside hell inside the lake of fire

The only way you can pay for your sin is to die physical death and after that the hell fire death called spiritual death

So God now said those who believe in Jesus have already died inside him when he died because he is now our spiritual father therefore we will no longer be a partaker of the second death which is hell fire death.

WriterNiiig:
⚡Massive pro-Palestine demonstration in Paris today.

Thousands have gathered despite Macron’s ban.

Now they can as well arrest the whole darn country.

aumeehn:
I never knew there were prophets named in the Bible, the likes of Isiaha that you just mentioned, since Isiah is a prophet did he receive Revelation from God through an Angel just the way Moses (AS) got the Torah or Muhammad (SAW) got the Quran? That's my first Question, because Okeysoninv here declared himself a Prophet sent by God, so I need to know what differentiates him from Prophet Isiah TB Joshua and the rest.


Second Question do you accept that the Bible Condones Genocide Ethnic Cleansing and Slavery? Since you said God is more Brutal than Satan in a Violence and in Love. Because that's exactly what the Verse above was saying.


Third Question, As a Muslim, a toddler or an infant is free of sin and pure, because God commanded us to Pray only if we are adult, he punish us for what we do not what we didn't do, I want to know what makes an Infant a Sinner, he didnt ask God to create him and send him to this world, it was done all on God own discretion, then why should this innocent kid be called a sinner? What did he do? What makes him a sinner? Please You need to give me concrete evidence not just stories, I need to know what makes an infant a sinner in the Religion of Christianity.


And Lastly to the Main Issue.

I thought God is perfect, since God is perfect why then did he bend his Rules and decided to Change the Rules of the World? To please who? I thought God is the all wise and all knowing? So God made The New tastement Full of Bloodshed but decided to backtrack and change course.

And you just moved in circles telling me how God updated the Bible, you didn't tell me how God did it, he sent a Revelation to his Prophet of the New Tastement and Commanded Humans to Follow the Book? I want you to be specific, just like in Islam Allah (SWA) was specific on how he revelead the Quran and also It was precise and Straight how God revealed the Torah to Moses (AS) how did God revealed the New Tastement? Through who? Because God cannot speak to Humans straight that's why he send Prophets, I think in the History of the World only 3 Humans talked to God himself, correct me if I am wrong, Adam, Moses, Muhammad (SAW)

Through who did God revealed the New tastement, who is the First person that Informed the world of the New Tastement? Be specific who is the first person to write the New Tastement who is he, how did he come across the Verses? I hope you understand my concerns, I want Specific historical Evidence.

T

First God still makes prophet up till today Bible shows God still appears today and angels still too

Now God have infinite ways to talk to man... He can talk to you by himself or or through your fellow man or through dreams or through angels or through the Bible which is the easy and common way and direct way... etc..

Nothing can limit God from talking to you when he wants

Bible said any one that said thus said the lord almighty that this and this will happen if it fails to happen just know that I have not spoken through him regard him not so from this you can define who a prophet is.

The funny thing you think God wants to appease to your definition of what a genocide is..... Now let me ask you if you have one million people you look into the future and you see that they are going to kill one billion people in the future if they continue the way they live tell me what you are going to do to them now... ?

In order words God said this people sin have reached heaven and if they continue to live on earth they will destroy every one on earth including my people so the only solution is to wipe them out

You call it genocide but what is saving you is because if those people were alive you will not be on earth today so decide which is better option...

Next God owes you nothing Bible said he owns everything so he can do as he wills you have a right to disregard any thing in your house that is the same way God has that right.


Romans 5:12-21

12 When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.
13 Yes, people sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted as sin because there was not yet any law to break.
14 Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol, a representation of Christ, who was yet to come.
15 But there is a great difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gracious gift. For the sin of this one man, Adam, brought death to many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of forgiveness to many through this other man, Jesus Christ.
16 And the result of God’s gracious gift is very different from the result of that one man’s sin. For Adam’s sin led to condemnation, but God’s free gift leads to our being made right with God, even though we are guilty of many sins.
17 For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one man, Jesus Christ.
18 Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone.

19 Because one person disobeyed God, many became sinners. But because one other person obeyed God, many will be made righteous.
20 God’s law was given so that all people could see how sinful they were. But as people sinned more and more, God’s wonderful grace became more abundant.
21 So just as sin ruled over all people and brought them to death, now God’s wonderful grace rules instead, giving us right standing with God and resulting in eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

I explained what makes a child a sinner before because he was in Adam when Adam sinned he too sinned..

Psalm 51:5
states that we all come into the world as sinners: “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me.”

Ephesians 2:2
says that all people who are not in Christ are “sons of disobedience.”

Ephesians 2:3
also establishes this, saying that we are all “by nature children of wrath.

Now Bible shows that those who believe in Jesus their children are sanctified untill they grow up to account for themselves (but they are still a sinner because all have sinned )


Actually what God is trying to show is that if that child was Adam once he grows up he will still sin like Adam did so all have sinned..

You said this.......
I thought God is perfect, since God is perfect why then did he bend his Rules and decided to Change the Rules of the World? To please who? I thought God is the all wise and all knowing? So God made The New tastement Full of Bloodshed but decided to backtrack and change course....

Answer....
I said old Testament was bloody not the new Testament
First I did not say new Testament was bloody
Only one blood was required in the new Testament and that is the blood of Jesus the holy one of God

I told you why God brought a new covenant....

God saw that first it was too bloody and the people(Israel) that were supposed to be perfect to execute the mission were still acting like the other people so this was not right that first covenant God said he found fault with it because actually no man could do the commandment of God we don't have the capacity to do it
Then God said

God said just like the flesh body comes before the spirit that is how the first covenant will come before the second one... Behold I make all things new

He set aside the first old covenant to establish the second one based on love.

Now he brought the new Testament to us by himself by his blood by his hands

God is not deaf you can speak to him now and he will hear you and talk with you if he sees you truly want to hear from him..

God declared this new Testament will be a one on one thing he wants to relate to you as your father on earth relates to you.


The new Testament Bible was written by God chosen men if I list those men it would not be of any meaning to you because you will still not believe
But
Now the mystery is that when you read the new Testament Bible you will see it is God that wrote it and gave it to mankind.

This new Testament Bible the Bible is the only book in the world that covers past life and present life and the next life that will come

Glory to God.

Mille:
So much for a merciful god

You have to know the tough sides of God so that you don't abuse his mercy.

That is what humbles us.

Come on guys, some of us are derailing the thread already and it's no longer fun. let's focus on war and world politics and leave the religious banters for Righteousness's thread.

WriterNiiig:
⚡Greece continues to move troops to islands in the Aegean Sea

Greece shouldn't get me excited for nothing o


Let there be Chaos.