Barryseal:

As controversial as it sounds, it will be near impossible to leave Musa out of the team. He fulfills the Northern quota.
It's just Nigeria things

Uzoho fulfils what quota then?

Can you say the same about Ahmed Musa? My question is what is Omeruo’s form these days in the GWG? In the past, yes, he has been one of our most reliable players.

chrisooblog:
Omeruo has/is a faithful servant to the SE and no agenda will wash that away. With him we've won AFCON gold and bronze. Qualified for WC twice reaching the second in one of them.

Using his club struggles as agenda to down play his immense contributions to the national team will not fly.

Joebie:
Can you say the same about Ahmed Musa? My question is what is Omeruo’s form these days in the GWG? In the past, yes, he has been one of our most reliable players.

Joebie baba,I remember Omeruo came to the rescue after we lost at home to Guinea Bissau with Bassey and Akpoguma as CBs….Omeruo and Semi replaced them in the second leg and did well.

The question should be what is the form of our CB these days,not only Omeruo.

Odunayaw:
Uzoho fulfils what quota then?

Stephen Keshi made US 94 on quota?
Joseph Yobo on quota 2014 WC? Kanu Nwankwo quota too in 2010 WC?…..I don’t think it’s about quota but our style,so nobody should raise eyebrows on Musa.

**Uzoho na Peseiro quota

Kog45:
Stephen Keshi made US 94 on quota?
Joseph Yobo on quota 2014 WC? Kanu Nwankwo quota too in 2010 WC?…..I don’t think it’s about quota but our style,so nobody should raise eyebrows on Musa.

Abi o

10 games in, Tottenham still balling awesome. Ange Potecoglou and his boys still unbeaten in the league and topping it comfortably.

Currently schooling Palace at Selhurst Park 2-0. 5 pts clear of Man City who have a Manchester Derby this weekend.

What is Postecoglou and his two sons (MaddiSON and Min-SON) cooking?

#EPLTots

Kog45:
Stephen Keshi made US 94 on quota?
Joseph Yobo on quota 2014 WC? Kanu Nwankwo quota too in 2010 WC?…..I don’t think it’s about quota but our style,so nobody should raise eyebrows on Musa.

**Uzoho na Peseiro quota

Keshi, Kanu, Yobo, and now Musa. We call it the "Sacred Cow" treatment. Super Eagles Captains are almost always beneficiaries of such treatment.

@bolded... that's a new one. 😂😂😂😂

Kog45:
Joebie baba,I remember Omeruo came to the rescue after we lost at home to Guinea Bissau with Bassey and Akpoguma as CBs….Omeruo and Semi replaced them in the second leg and did well.

The question should be what is the form of our CB these days,not only Omeruo.

My Man Joebie, I agree with Uncle Kog45 expanding this particular question beyond just Omeruo.

A valid question especially as we cannot even ascertain who our best CB pair under Peseiro currently is.

These are our options at CB:

Capped CBs

- William Troost Ekong
- Calvin Bassey
- Semi Ajayi
- Kenneth Omeruo
- Jordan Torunarigha
- Chidozie Awaziem
- Kevin Akpoguma
- Leon Balogun*

Uncapped CB

- Igoh Ogbu

From these lads, who are our most inform CBs? Also who among them can be counted on in terms of defensive reliability, 1st phase buildup dynamics and game reading IQ.

Peseiro still haven't found a sure CB pair that convinces fans and observers. Perhaps next month, we will see him finally make up his mind on what his CB pair truly is.

We watch and see.

#MDAfcon23

Yes I can say the same about Ahmed Musa.

You know it's possible to acknowledge the incredible contributions of Musa and Omeruo to the SE while still pointing out their present inadequacies. Making one point doesn't negate the other.

Joebie:
Can you say the same about Ahmed Musa? My question is what is Omeruo’s form these days in the GWG? In the past, yes, he has been one of our most reliable players.

Keshi's own was still kinda understandable because he was still in the SE starting XI a year before the AFCON and WC in 1994 before injuries slowed him down.

Whereas with Kanu, Yobo and Musa diminishing returns don set in well well but we still carry them go major tournament.

TheSuperNerd:


Keshi, Kanu, Yobo, and now Musa. We call it the "Sacred Cow" treatment. Super Eagles Captains are almost always beneficiaries of such treatment.

@bolded... that's a new one. 😂😂😂😂

Stephen Keshi was like a god in the national team set-up for a very long period and he played crucial role in securing Nigeria's place in that world cup.
Kanu overstayed his welcome and should have long retired before the 2010 world cup.
Yobo was almost a nuisance in the Eagles camp even before the 2013 AFCON where he was the NFF spy. He unfairly took Leon Balogun's place on the 2014 roster.
For Ahmed Musa, he's becoming a big joke and should be advised to leave the team.

Kog45:
Stephen Keshi made US 94 on quota?
Joseph Yobo on quota 2014 WC? Kanu Nwankwo quota too in 2010 WC?…..I don’t think it’s about quota but our style,so nobody should raise eyebrows on Musa.

**Uzoho na Peseiro quota

About JS not having a reliable centre back pair, who is to blame? The woman selling akara on the street of Iyana Ipaja? Or the coach himself? How long did it take Keshi, Siasia and Rohr to find theirs?
It is a shame that the boys cannot string five passes together without losing the ball to the opponents even when they are are up against the most mediocre of teams on the continent.
The last time I watched a Nigerian team play some entertaining football was in 2016 during the Olympics. Yes, we may have few tactical problems here and there but can't we just play some decent football first? Most of the boys have been around for the past 3-5 years. Do they need to play together for a century to at least make the fans happy.
Each time I watch our boys play it looks like they just gathered some random boys from Ikorodu a day to the match. No understanding, no cohesion, just kick and run.

I quite agree with you about the "being liberal" aspect and I think most Nigerians of different tribes are. The hausa man on the street of Dutse will most likely not be interested in whatever Boniface writes on social media but the issue is that tribesmen are liable to engaging in ethnic strife once aroused by the political class.

lovewins:


Truth is, while there may be a few reservations most yorubas will understand the context and will laugh about it. Yorubas are liberal at heart, it's why the extremities that exist in some part of the country won't find root in the west.

DABIGATRAN:
About JS not having a reliable centre back pair, who is to blame? The woman selling akara on the street of Iyana Ipaja? Or the coach himself? How long did it take Keshi, Siasia and Rohr to find theirs?
It is a shame that the boys cannot string five passes together without losing the ball to the opponents even when they are are up against the most mediocre of teams on the continent.
The last time I watched a Nigerian team play some entertaining football was in 2016 during the Olympics. Yes, we may have few tactical problems here and there but can't we just play some decent football first? Most of the boys have been around for the past 3-5 years. Do they need to play together for a century to at least make the fans happy.
Each time I watch our boys play it looks like they just gathered some random boys from Ikorodu a day to the match. No understanding, no cohesion, just kick and run.

The team you watched in these friendlies?

It's like some of una go get rough day and just come here to release your stress by piling on anything that comes to your mind

DABIGATRAN:
Stephen Keshi was like a god in the national team set-up for a very long period and he played crucial role in securing Nigeria's place in that world cup.
Kanu overstayed his welcome and should have long retired before the 2010 world cup.
Yobo was almost a nuisance in the Eagles camp even before the 2013 AFCON where he was the NFF spy. He unfairly took Leon Balogun's place on the 2014 roster.
For Ahmed Musa, he's becoming a big joke and should be advised to leave the team.

Kanu even on his last legs was one of our best players against South Korea at 2010 World Cup and I would had played him at the previous 2 games based on his South Korea performance. As for yobo, it’s only Nigerians that will like to throw away an experienced 33 year old with Epl experience. It’s only musa that has overstayed his welcome among this list

okay good. so they are on the same boat.

chrisooblog:
Yes I can say the same about Ahmed Musa.

You know it's possible to acknowledge the incredible contributions of Musa and Omeruo to the SE while still pointing out their present inadequacies. Making one point doesn't negate the other.

I actually think that was Akpoguma's best game in GWG. He did ok before he was subbed off due to injury if I can remember vividly.
However, those are not games I can use to rate either player.

Ajayi, on his part, nothing really strikes me in his game, other than being a regular for club and country. All our CBs should get the bashing.. I didn't get to read what komekn was on about, because by default I know he is most likely pushing for Adarabioyo. All the same, my point is none of those guys in CB should be getting any praise.

Kog45:
Joebie baba,I remember Omeruo came to the rescue after we lost at home to Guinea Bissau with Bassey and Akpoguma as CBs….Omeruo and Semi replaced them in the second leg and did well.

The question should be what is the form of our CB these days,not only Omeruo.

Exactly where I was trying to go with it.. should we be praising Omeruo really?

I think Bassey would have done better at LB, but we are kind of stacked there now (Collins, Sanusi, Bruno).

As regards the rest, as you have rightly highlighted, it all comes down to Peseiro.. We have the personnel (although average) but still, if he finds the best combo, we can still do a job at the AFCON at least.

TheSuperNerd:


My Man Joebie, I agree with Uncle Kog45 expanding this particular question beyond just Omeruo.

A valid question especially as we cannot even ascertain who our best CB pair under Peseiro currently is.

These are our options at CB:

Capped CBs

- William Troost Ekong
- Calvin Bassey
- Semi Ajayi
- Kenneth Omeruo
- Jordan Torunarigha
- Chidozie Awaziem
- Kevin Akpoguma
- Leon Balogun*

Uncapped CB

- Igoh Ogbu

From these lads, who are our most inform CBs? Also who among them can be counted on in terms of defensive reliability, 1st phase buildup dynamics and game reading IQ.

Peseiro still haven't found a sure CB pair that convinces fans and observers. Perhaps next month, we will see him finally make up his mind on what his CB pair truly is.

We watch and see.

#MDAfcon23

Abi ooo, my brother!

Barryseal:

I was quite shocked to read such bad presser for Omeruo. So wildly off the mark and uncalled for.
He's even a regular for Kassimpasa in Turkey it's not like he's a finished player like Musa.

DABIGATRAN:
Stephen Keshi was like a god in the national team set-up for a very long period and he played crucial role in securing Nigeria's place in that world cup.
Kanu overstayed his welcome and should have long retired before the 2010 world cup.
Yobo was almost a nuisance in the Eagles camp even before the 2013 AFCON where he was the NFF spy. He unfairly took Leon Balogun's place on the 2014 roster.
For Ahmed Musa, he's becoming a big joke and should be advised to leave the team.

Balogun didn’t make 2014 World Cup because of injury, nobody took his place

Come on! We played Saudi Arabia not France. Everyone had thrashed them before we met. Even Mali taught them some footballing lessons just like a well-coached team from Ijegun or Ikotun would.
The Saudi boys were completely below par in that fixture, surrounding the referee viciously every two minutes trying to force fraudulent calls. Poor guy! Smiling sheepishly on every occasion, afterall his employers in Switzerland are raking Saudi petrodollar.

Odunayaw:
The team you watched in these friendlies?

It's like some of una go get rough day and just come here to release your stress by piling on anything that comes to your mind

He was injured in the friendly with Mexico almost as soon as he entered the fray but he recovered before the world cup and Keshi was bent on taking him after he had had enough of Yobo shenanigans. I remember we all kept vigil waiting for the world cup list and when it was eventually released, Balogun, Mba and Ideye were the notable omissions.

jihday:
Balogun didn’t make 2014 World Cup because of injury, nobody took his place

DABIGATRAN:
Come on! We played Saudi Arabia not France. Everyone had thrashed them before we met. Even Mali taught them some footballing lessons just like a well-coached team from Ijegun or Ikotun would.
The Saudi boys were completely below par in that fixture, surrounding the referee viciously every two minutes trying to force fraudulent calls. Poor guy! Smiling sheepishly on every occasion, afterall his employers in Switzerland are raking Saudi petrodollar.

There's no way you're going to spin yourself out of this. You could have easily limited your railing against the team to "when we play France" but you didn't, rather you said "Everytime".

Since there's no medal/competition for who yabs the team the most can we at least be factual?

Yobo really had tremendous experience and I could remember he notched few important goals in the qualifiers leading to 2010 but defensively he was a massive liability for a number of years. He has the NFF to thank for his appearances at the 2013 AFCON and 2014 WC. He probably greased their palms, shameless gluttons!

Bannedlargedx2:


Kanu even on his last legs was one of our best players against South Korea at 2010 World Cup and I would had played him at the previous 2 games based on his South Korea performance. As for yobo, it’s only Nigerians that will like to throw away an experienced 33 year old with Epl experience. It’s only musa that has overstayed his welcome among this list

I must not convince you. I'm not striving to anyway but I will not lavish praise on the boys when they play as if they are training with some school kids on a vacation in Greece.
Don't you watch other national teams? The way Chukwueze and Lookman played was that how their predecessors that put Nigeria on the football map played? Have we set the bar so low in everything in Nigeria that a lacklustre display against a tactless Saudi side should attract felicitations?
Under Rohr they even played with more enthusiasm despite not being fluid.

Odunayaw:
There's no way you're going to spin yourself out of this. You could have easily limited your railing against the team to "when we play France" but you didn't, rather you said "Everytime".

Since there's no medal/competition for who yabs the team the most can we at least be factual?

jihday:
Balogun didn’t make 2014 World Cup because of injury, nobody took his place

Balogun that didn't even complete one game before the WC. Brought him in at RB in a friendly I think against Mexico and dude crashed into the advert board almost immediately after coming in.

Yes we should be praising Omeruo really because he was part of the backline that won an AFCON. He was also part of the backline that helped Nigeria qualify for the 2014 WC and get to the second round.

Our other CB need to step up.

Kenneth on the other hand has nothing else to prove.

Joebie:
Exactly where I was trying to go with it.. should we be praising Omeruo really?

I think Bassey would have done better at LB, but we are kind of stacked there now (Collins, Sanusi, Bruno).

As regards the rest, as you have rightly highlighted, it all comes down to Peseiro.. We have the personnel (although average) but still, if he finds the best combo, we can still do a job at the AFCON at least.

Yeah Balogun came into the team just months before the WC so it was unlikely he would have displaced any of the other guys.

AndSunGorilla:

Balogun that didn't even complete one game before the WC. Brought him in at RB in a friendly I think against Mexico and dude crashed into the advert board almost immediately after coming in.

Joebie:
Exactly where I was trying to go with it.. should we be praising Omeruo really?

I think Bassey would have done better at LB, but we are kind of stacked there now (Collins, Sanusi, Bruno).

As regards the rest, as you have rightly highlighted, it all comes down to Peseiro.. We have the personnel (although average) but still, if he finds the best combo, we can still do a job at the AFCON at least.

Our ppu just like cin new names none of the present cb is better Dan poor omeruo …

Marjoribanks:

If Boniface substitute Aboki for Agbero. I am sure the yorubas will also be crying by now too.
That's how divided we have become!

Agbero and Aboki are 2 different words with different meanings.

Agbero means thug while Aboki means friend.

If Hausas did not adopt arab naming customs and practiced Hausa naming customs there will Hausas bearing Aboki in their names.

Aboki is not an abusive term while Agbero is an abusive term.

the fact that bashir is interested in going after SE footballers means he is also on this thread and the way you respond to people is very similar to the way bashir responds to people so just use your real identity and stop hiding.

As long the new names are in the EPL or Bundesliga, they are automatically better than Omeruo. I read comments like, if player A was better, he would be in the EPL. What sort of limited football take is that? So I guess Bassey is better than Diomande of CIV since one is in the EPL and the other in Portugal not so?

Some takes are so funny. They don't even consider analysing the player as an individual talent regardless of where he is playing. Player traits, ball IQ... these are traits you can spot regardless of where a talent is.

I am all for us improving the defence but currently we cannot confidently and factually say that Omeruo is inferior to any of the CBs we have.

elyte89:



Our ppu just like cin new names none of the present cb is better Dan poor omeruo …

DABIGATRAN:
Come on! We played Saudi Arabia not France. Everyone had thrashed them before we met. Even Mali taught them some footballing lessons just like a well-coached team from Ijegun or Ikotun would.
The Saudi boys were completely below par in that fixture, surrounding the referee viciously every two minutes trying to force fraudulent calls. Poor guy! Smiling sheepishly on every occasion, afterall his employers in Switzerland are raking Saudi petrodollar.

Please stay one place, at first you said the team can not sting five passes together even if we're playing the most mediocre of team. Now you are been called out instead of you to own up you're beating around the bush.