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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:06pm On Nov 07, 2023
Sometimes just because a player is doing well in club competition doesn't necessarily mean it will automatically translate into the national team.

Yes club form is a major determinant for getting into a national team squad but your overall performance for your country will always count for you good or bad.

National teams all over the world stick to tried trusted players irrespective of their current club form and level of competition.

If we become too dogmatic to how players are invited then there's a chance you might miss out on diamonds in the rough. Sunday Mba and Oboabona come to mind. Heck we even took a clubless Mikel Obi to the 2006 AFCON.

Nobody is saying standards shouldn't be maintained but there should be exceptions to the rule especially when it's obvious a player is talented.

komekn:


So essentially you will pick a not in form player over high scoring outstanding player in higher league and club.

The basis of national team selection is consistent outstanding top performances for club and league in the HERE and NOW.

Not đŸš« past recent glories in the national team.

Teams improve because they pick the most outstanding consistent top 🔝 performing players CURRENTLY.

I will NEVER pick KC over BONIFACE.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 2:53pm On Nov 07, 2023
BankyGee:

This is it sir. Thanks 😁
https://youtube.com/@BankyGee_?si=GUK6Jzp3CkielOwS
👍

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:27pm On Nov 07, 2023
You can already rate him after 2 caps.

Kog45:
I love rating our players with super eagles performance but hope Peseiro brings the best in them
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:34pm On Nov 07, 2023
Success is essentially a CF for 2 seasons now.

DABIGATRAN:
Plays as a winger. Has high work rate.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:35pm On Nov 07, 2023
Joebie:
You can already rate him after 2 caps.

Here we are talking about Iheanacho 48 caps and 14 goals and Boniface with 3 caps against São Tomé,Saudi Arabia and Mozambique,hope you are getting my point.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:44pm On Nov 07, 2023
But he’s had only one start. I see where you are going. But what’s KC’s record in a tournament proper? grin

Kog45:
Here we are talking about Iheanacho 48 caps and 14 goals and Boniface with 3 caps against São Tomé,Saudi Arabia and Mozambique,hope you are getting my point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:50pm On Nov 07, 2023
Joebie:
Success is essentially a CF for 2 seasons now.

I think he was listed as attacking midfielder left/right and forward but as CF with 2 goals in the last two seasons and still getting games? what do you think
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:55pm On Nov 07, 2023
Joebie:
But he’s had only one start. I see where you are going. But what’s KC’s record in a tournament proper? grin

My point is,Iheanacho against São Tomé had wonderful assist and against Saudi he scored a lovely goal but Kokmne said he is basking in past glories and comparisons with Boniface should not arise based on the league but here am talking about super eagles.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:56pm On Nov 07, 2023
These are his positions for the current season and previous according to transfermarkrt. Confirming on SofaScore he has largely played as one of the CFs in a two prong attack.

Kog45:
I think he was listed as attacking midfielder left/right and forward but as a CF with 2 goals in the last two seasons and still getting games? what do you think

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:02pm On Nov 07, 2023
Haha I no know where this convo start. KC has a good SE record and Boniface has started will with SE.

Mod
Let me add that I expect Boniface to do better in a tournament proper.
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Kog45:
My point is,Iheanacho against São Tomé had wonderful assist and against Saudi he scored a lovely goal but Kokmne said he is basking in past glories and comparisons with Boniface should not arise based on the league but here am talking about super eagles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:07pm On Nov 07, 2023
Kog45

Isaac Success 23/24 season

10 Total Games played
4 Starts
1 Assist
3 Big Chances Created
3 Big chances missed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:14pm On Nov 07, 2023
Joebie:
Haha I no know where this convo start. KC has a good SE record and Boniface has started will with SE.

Mod
Let me add that I expect Boniface to do better in a tournament proper.
.
Yes Boniface has the prospect
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BankyGee(m): 4:18pm On Nov 07, 2023
chrisooblog:
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Thanks a lot boss. That's exactly what I'm working on, and it's been good so far.
Really appreciate the advice sir đŸ˜Œâ€ïžđŸ’Ż
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 7:22pm On Nov 07, 2023
From now on, players playing in Africa will be able to take part in the CHAN competition and not only for those who play in their local leagues. 🌍✹

I love this idea. đŸ™ŒđŸŒ

#AfricanFootball
#TotalEnergiesCHAN

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by villagereporter(m): 7:45pm On Nov 07, 2023
https://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=49378


Egbami, Austriya abi naa Austria don steal our players finish ooo. Seriously what can be done?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by toluxe0075: 7:58pm On Nov 07, 2023
Joebie:
Kog45

Isaac Success 23/24 season

10 Total Games played
4 Starts
1 Assist
3 Big Chances Created
3 Big chances missed
With the quality players we currently have, Isaac Success shouldn’t even be in discussion at all.

Anyone who has been following Isaac’s career trajectory for more than 3 seasons now will know that he has not been at his best at all. I don’t think he has ever been since his days at Watford.

I thought he was going to become what Osimhen became. Unfortunately, life had other plans. It’s either he is injured on not in form.

Whether he will perform in the GWG shirt is what I don’t know. But based on his performance at the club level, we shouldn’t be thinking of him at all. He’s too injury prone and inconsistent to rely on.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 8:05pm On Nov 07, 2023
villagereporter:
https://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=49378


Egbami, Austriya abi naa Austria don steal our players finish ooo. Seriously what can be done?
They cannot give up their Austrian citizenship to play for Nigeria. Next is Chukwuemeka of Chelsea

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:06pm On Nov 07, 2023
Kog45:
Oga I don drop the mic
.but are you saying Iheanacho getting into the team on past glories but I thought championship players are good enough

A player who is in a team thats top of the Bundesliga and he the 6th highest goal đŸ„… scorer in the Bundesliga.

KC is in a lesser club and league and is in crowd of 10 players that have all scored 5 goals he is 10th.

There is no comparison.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:10pm On Nov 07, 2023
chrisooblog:
Sometimes just because a player is doing well in club competition doesn't necessarily mean it will automatically translate into the national team.

Yes club form is a major determinant for getting into a national team squad but your overall performance for your country will always count for you good or bad.

National teams all over the world stick to tried trusted players irrespective of their current club form and level of competition.

If we become too dogmatic to how players are invited then there's a chance you might miss out on diamonds in the rough. Sunday Mba and Oboabona come to mind. Heck we even took a clubless Mikel Obi to the 2006 AFCON.

Nobody is saying standards shouldn't be maintained but there should be exceptions to the rule especially when it's obvious a player is talented .


Not sure what you mean by talented and ability is always by comparison not isolation.

If you have an outstanding consistent top quality player in the league and it cannot be translated to success. Then there immediately becomes questions about the team management and coach not just the player.

Imagine having Harry Kane and or Lewondoski and they don't score for several games in the national team. You will look more at the team management and coach as opposed to just the player.

The issue of TALENT as you put it, Ishihara not obviously apparent that Boniface is not just talented but consistently outstanding.

Who is therefore more talented and deserving of a national team call đŸ€™đŸż up ❓
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:13pm On Nov 07, 2023
toluxe0075:

With the quality players we currently have, Isaac Success shouldn’t even be in discussion at all.

Anyone who has been following Isaac’s career trajectory for more than 3 seasons now will know that he has not been at his best at all. I don’t think he has ever been since his days at Watford.

I thought he was going to become what Osimhen became. Unfortunately, life had other plans. It’s either he is injured on not in form.

Whether he will perform in the GWG shirt is what I don’t know. But based on his performance at the club level, we shouldn’t be thinking of him at all. He’s too injury prone and inconsistent to rely on.


Isaac success is history and not đŸš« in the discussion.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:21pm On Nov 07, 2023
Danielnino00:


Here we go!
Voting of Members of the Nomination Committee
Gentlemen and ladies of the thread, it is time for us to vote for those who will stand as representatives of this thread and partake in the selection of award categories and award nominees.
This year, the nomination committee will be made up of at least 7 members: myself, icon4s who pioneered the award will continue as an honorary member of the committee and at least 5 monikers from this thread.
Every member of this thread is eligible to vote and be voted for. But let's keep in mind that this isn't a popularity contest. Vote for those you believe have the knowledge and passion for Nigerian football.
Here's the rule for voting:
1) You're to vote for 5 monikers from this thread to join the committee;
2) Vote the monikers in order of preference, from top to bottom;
3) Points will be awarded to each moniker you vote for. Your first nominee gets 5 point, the second gets 4 points, the third gets 3 points, fourth gets 2 points and fifth gets 1 point.
4) At the end of the voting process, the five monikers with the most points will join the committee;
5) In the event that two or more monikers are tied on points, they will all be added to the committee, as the goal is to have as many monikers to contribute to the process.
6) You're allowed to nominate yourself 😉

Voting closes on Wednesday, November 8th 2023, 10pm Nigerian time.

Thank you.

Tbaba1234, if active, would be my first pick after TheGoodJoe.

Icon4s and Danielnino00 are already in so that means....

1. TheGoodJoe
2. Joebie
3. BascoVanVeli
4. Kog45
5. Charlesemeka85/Chriskels

Ejoor leave my number 5 like that. 😁😁


Kudos Danielnino00. I understand voting for the committe members closes tomorrow. Should have dropped mine earlier but have even quite occupied.


Cheers.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 8:40pm On Nov 07, 2023
What year is our lineup going to look like this ?

Must it always be foreign base players ?

Look at the Brazilian national team at each position there’s least one home base player

This reduces complacency and pride
Because with a poor showing anyone can be dropped

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:46pm On Nov 07, 2023
typicalgamer:
What year is our lineup going to look like this ?

Must it always be foreign base players ?

Look at the Brazilian national team at each position there’s least one home base player

This reduces complacency and pride
Because with a poor showing anyone can be dropped
can you compare the Brazilian league to ours?

Carry your propaganda shift abeg

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 9:20pm On Nov 07, 2023
charlesemeka85:
can you compare the Brazilian league to ours?

Carry your propaganda shift abeg

Propaganda 😂 carry ur wahala go front abeg argue with you keyboard no involve please

Touch grass if you must

I repeat touch grass if you must
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:41pm On Nov 07, 2023
typicalgamer:


Propaganda 😂 carry ur wahala go front abeg argue with you keyboard no involve please

Touch grass if you must

I repeat touch grass if you must
ezi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:51pm On Nov 07, 2023
TheSuperNerd:


Tbaba1234, if active, would be my first pick after TheGoodJoe.

Icon4s and Danielnino00 are already in so that means....

1. TheGoodJoe
2. Joebie
3. BascoVanVeli
4. Kog45
5. Charlesemeka85/Chriskels

Ejoor leave my number 5 like that. 😁😁


Kudos Danielnino00. I understand voting for the committe members closes tomorrow. Should have dropped mine earlier but have even quite occupied.


Cheers.
You will have to choose one of the two monikers at number 5 o.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DABIGATRAN(m): 10:28pm On Nov 07, 2023
Etsako boy George Ilenikhena leading the attack tonight for Antwerp against Lazio in the UCL.
Alhassan Yusuf also in action for the Belgian club.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:33pm On Nov 07, 2023
DABIGATRAN:
Etsako boy George Ilenikhena leading the attack tonight for Antwerp against Lazio in the UCL.
Alhassan Yusuf also in action for the Belgian club.
Porto vs Antwerp


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 11:03pm On Nov 07, 2023
Kog45:
Porto vs Antwerp

Zaidu Sanusi was also in action

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:28am On Nov 08, 2023
The Alhassan I watched against porto is good enough to be in the current super eagles team

Jpes should do the needful by inviting the lad.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CaptainStephen(m): 4:33am On Nov 08, 2023
DABIGATRAN:
Etsako boy George Ilenikhena leading the attack tonight for Antwerp against Lazio in the UCL.
Alhassan Yusuf also in action for the Belgian club.
Are you Estako too?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 4:50am On Nov 08, 2023
charlesemeka85:
ezi

From nowhere you just called someone "ezi"
You have a mental illness or something ?

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