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raumdeuter:
In this same off cycle Diri won yesterday.
I have seen videos during the PDP primaries where some PDP people told Dino and Atiku that they will support APC

Watch this video from 7 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_0ciWHdtG0

There was a video from Fayose brother alleging that Dino did not mobilize any of the PDP agents, while he collected money from PDP governors and pocketed it

For PDP a traditional party to get that type of numbers shows that there might be truth in what Fayose said

The same thing applies to Diri. They all rigged their way back in. It does feel like Wike showed them the way. No way Oyetola would have lost if the election was done now.

And just forget about Dino for a second, and watch the video. It will only take twenty minutes of your time. The way election sheets were mutilated and the brazen manner with which Inec rigged can only remind you of Rivers State.

Itsrm:
Remember the original complaint was about 5 local governments. INEC went ahead to compile and announce results from some of those local governments.

Some of those local governments had a 97% turn out of registered voters. Just think about it. Not 97% of those with PVCs, registered voters . The rigging was brazenly done.

The complaint I saw was that 1 local government, I don't know about the other 4 LG you are talking about.

I don't know where Dino is getting his own stats from but the result that Inec announced tallied both accredited voters and actual voters.

I remember asking here on Saturday how Okene and Adavi LG numbers were so high and if those LG were populated before Amoto told me those LG were populated.

Okene and Adavi are Ebira land, it's no surprise that they will give their son block votes the same way the SDP candidate got block votes from Igala land.

Dino should go n sit down one place.

larride:
The complaint I saw was that 1 local government, I don't know about the other 4 LG you are talking about.

I don't know where Dino is getting his own stats from but the result that Inec announced tallied both accredited voters and actual voters.

I remember asking here on Saturday how Okene and Adavi LG numbers were so high and if those LG were populated before Amoto told me those LG were populated.

Okene and Adavi are Ebira land, it's no surprise that they will give their son block votes the same way the SDP candidate got block votes from Igala land.

Dino should go n sit down one place.

[color=royalblue]INEC has 72k pvc collected in Okene LGA.

How come 141k voted?

At least watch the video before making conclusions.

Leave the messenger, and listen to the message[/color]

Itsrm:
Miracle no dey tire Jesus

The same Okene had less than 50,000 accredited voters just a few months ago during the presidential election.

If you must rig, at least, rig with sense. This is shameful.

In Rivers, didn't the number of voters in the Gubernatorial election higher than the Presidential election?

In state local election, the turnout is usually higher than Presidential election as it's a local affair.

It's very very possible that Yahaya Bello cooked those 2 LG result to those numbers but an Ebira man standing for election in an Ebira land will get way more votes than any other person.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]INEC has 72k pvc collected in Okene LGA.

How come 141k voted?

At least watch the video before making conclusions.

Leave the messenger, and listen to the message[/color]

How can 72k collected PVC when accredited voters was 141k?

raumdeuter:
In this same off cycle Diri won yesterday.
I have seen videos during the PDP primaries where some PDP people told Dino and Atiku that they will support APC

Watch this video from 7 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_0ciWHdtG0

There was a video from Fayose brother alleging that Dino did not mobilize any of the PDP agents, while he collected money from PDP governors and pocketed it

For PDP a traditional party to get that type of numbers shows that there might be truth in what Fayose said

Dino is only crying because he was outrigged, I can say if Muri was the PDP candidate, he would likely win or give APC a better run

the brother should shut the fk up - it vexes me they are giving the brother of another clown of Nigerian politics relevance.

that is another game all of them play. chop the mobilization money issued by the party. party gives you 200m - eat 170m and use 30m for the election


fayose reportedly pocketed most of the moeny they gave him in 2013

same way falae and co pocketed the dasuki mobilization money

for all you know that was dinos real goal - he may have known he would not win but it was his last opportunity for a big payday

that so called billionaire lifestyle of his cannot pay for itself

larride:
How can 72k collected PVC when accredited voters was 141k?

[color=royalblue]Is that not what we are asking?

INEC has 149k registered voters in Okene
72k collected PVC

Then on election day, 141k were accredited.

That is what they are asking[/color]

larride:
The complaint I saw was that 1 local government, I don't know about the other 4 LG you are talking about.

I don't know where Dino is getting his own stats from but the result that Inec announced tallied both accredited voters and actual voters.

I remember asking here on Saturday how Okene and Adavi LG numbers were so high and if those LG were populated before Amoto told me those LG were populated.

Okene and Adavi are Ebira land, it's no surprise that they will give their son block votes the same way the SDP candidate got block votes from Igala land.

Dino should go n sit down one place.

Nawa o. This is INEC admitting that the rigging affected 5 local governments areas which they said they would investigate.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/642351-breaking-kogidecides2023-inec-suspends-election-in-some-areas.html

So they came out to vote for their sons and got 97% turn out of registered voters but others didn't come out to vote for their sons to achieve the same thing. This is what you're defending. Continue

Meanwhile, as strong as the Obi wave was in the last election, even getting more than 98% of votes in Anambra, the voter turnout was less than 40% of registered voters.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]INEC has 72k pvc collected in Okene LGA.

How come 141k voted?

At least watch the video before making conclusions.

Leave the messenger, and listen to the message[/color]

I just checked and see, Kogi state has one of the highest pvc collection rate in the country.

In Kogi, Out of 1,932,654 registered voters, 1,833,160 have collected their PVCs and leaving 99,494 uncollected Pvc.

I did watch the video, na okpata yarns he dey yarn.

iamoyindamola:
Guy 🤣🤣🤣
E sure me die you have a reminder about some certain things

Shey like play like play, this na November.
This is 5 months in and already end of the year.
I dey buy fuel inside Lagos for 600 naira per litre.


How I go take forget?

Itsrm:
The same thing applies to Diri. They all rigged their way back in. It does feel like Wike showed them the way. No way Oyetola would have lost if the election was done now.

And just forget about Dino for a second, and watch the video. It will only take twenty minutes of your time. The way election sheets were mutilated and the brazen manner with which Inec rigged can only remind you of Rivers State.

Oyetola was fighting a very popular Adeleke,
Timi Sylva and Dino were very unpopular candidates in their party to start

I believe if Muri was in PDP or Lyon was the APC candidate in Bayelsa, things will be different or at least closer

I watched the video and heard all Dino is saying. And thats how elections have always been run

Every party rig massively in their strong zones and try to neutralize votes in their weak areas

Pick any election from 1999 to date I will show you similar thing happenng everytime, Dino himself has done this and defeauded others

In the video I embedded those are PDP people lamenting how Dino and Atiku manipulated the delegate list in their favor
If you manipulate delegate list in your favor and are whining about Yahaya manipulating Irev in his favor

Shebi whoever is coming to justice must come with clean hands

GloriousGbola:
the brother should shut the fk up - it vexes me they are giving the brother of another clown of Nigerian politics relevance.

that is another game all of them play. chop the mobilization money issued by the party. party gives you 200m - eat 170m and use 30m for the election


fayose reportedly pocketed most of the moeny they gave him in 2013

same way falae and co pocketed the dasuki mobilization money

for all you know that was dinos real goal - he may have known he would not win but it was his last opportunity for a big payday

that so called billionaire lifestyle of his cannot pay for itself

Fayose knows the game and how they all play it, Dino knows the game and how they all play it Yahaya knows this too
Without mobilization, you can't run election, What many of these party people do is to collect ticket and hope Atiku/PDP national will send them mobilization money. Same thing someone like PDP candidate Jandor will be hoping for

Its a matter of Ole gbe, Ole gba, Thief steal am, Thief collect and aided it

larride:
In Rivers, didn't the number of voters in the Gubernatorial election higher than the Presidential election?

In state local election, the turnout is usually higher than Presidential election as it's a local affair.

It's very very possible that Yahaya Bello cooked those 2 LG result to those numbers but an Ebira man standing for election in an Ebira land will get way more votes than any other person.

Those results were cooked as well. Same as yahya bello. Any blind man in Rivers State will tell you the turnout was miles more during the presidential election than the governorship. People walked long distances and were joyfully going to vote. After the abracadabra Wike did, most people sat at home. Streets were empty, polling units were deserted.

Surprisingly, results showed more voter turn out.

Itsrm:
Nawa o. This is INEC admitting that the rigging affected 5 local governments areas which they said they would investigate.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/642351-breaking-kogidecides2023-inec-suspends-election-in-some-areas.html

So they came out to vote for their sons and got 97% turn out of registered voters but others didn't come out to vote for their sons to achieve the same thing. This is what you're defending. Continue

Meanwhile, as strong as the Obi wave was in the last election, even getting more than 98% of votes in Anambra, the voter turnout was less than 40% of registered voters.

Even from the link you posted, they practically mentioned the ward they were suspending the election in after their investigation.

Using your Obi logic, across the state in Kogi, the total number of people that voted is less than 50% of registered voters.

In Anambra, Peter Obi won 95% of the number of those that came to vote on election day, was it rigged? In fact if we break it down LG by LG, we will see areas where Peter Obi won 100% of votes vis a vis accredited voters, were the results rigged?

raumdeuter:
Oyetola was fighting a very popular Adeleke,
Timi Sylva and Dino were very unpopular candidates in their party to start

I believe if Muri was in PDP or Lyon was the APC candidate in Bayelsa, things will be different or at least closer

I watched the video and heard all Dino is saying. And thats how elections have always been run

Every party rig massively in their strong zones and try to neutralize votes in their weak areas

Pick any election from 1999 to date I will show you similar thing happenng everytime, Dino himself has done this and defeauded others

In the video I embedded those are PDP people lamenting how Dino and Atiku manipulated the delegate list in their favor
If you manipulate delegate list in your favor and are whining about Yahaya manipulating Irev in his favor

Shebi whoever is coming to justice must come with clean hands

I absolutely agree that Dino himself is not a saint and the way he rigged the election that gave him the ticket is not doing him any favours.

Let's just forget about the man and focus on the election. We are fully back to the Obasanjo days where you don't even have to bribe the electorate again. Just pay INEC to write results for you.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The thing is pathetic.

Then people expect someone who fraudulently rigged his way to victory to come and serve?
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They expect such person to perform and turn things around, when it's very clear that he will first focus on recovering all the billions spent to clinch the shady victory..before proceeding to loot to his satisfaction while, compensating his cronies with important positions where they won't do anything except looting too.

When we complained here that subsidy removal will amount to nothing, the fake lovers of Nigeria will call us an enemy. But the truth is the proceeds will be looted. Then they talked about widening the taxx net...for what exactly? You would think the money made from our pockets will be used to give us basic things we need to function properly as a nation, but the criminals continued to buy luxurious cars off our sweat and looting the rest.

They will use thugs to disenfranchise voters and also destroy electoral materials, then go ahead and bribe inec....and some one will boldly preach that such person has the plan to work?

The way educated Nigerians dey always explain away electoral fraud/rigging dey always amaze me !

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Itsrm:
I absolutely agree that Dino himself is not a saint and the way he rigged the election that gave him the ticket is not doing him any favours.

Let's just forget about the man and focus on the election. We are fully back to the Obasanjo days where you don't even have to bribe the electorate again. Just pay INEC to write results for you.

That is how most elections have been even after Obasanjo days. I recalled how Akala and Ajimobi ran their election in Oyo in 2011, How Ajimobi ran Ladoja and Akala in 2015. How Adelabu and Makinde ran theirs in 2019

BlueRayDick:
The way educated Nigerians dey always explain away electoral fraud / rigging dey always amaze me

Add the justification.
"this person do am so we sef fit do am"

larride:
Even from the link you posted, they practically mentioned the ward they were suspending the election in after their investigation.

Using your Obi logic, across the state in Kogi, the total number of people that voted is less than 50% of registered voters.

In Anambra, Peter Obi won 95% of the number of those that came to vote on election day, was it rigged? In fact if we break it down LG by LG, we will see areas where Peter Obi won 100% of votes vis a vis accredited voters, were the results rigged?

No, you will have to show at least one local government in Anambra where there was 97% turnout of registered voters.

If only 50,000 people voted in Okene and all 50,000 voted for Ododo, no wahala. Your PO 100% vote will apply here.

To say more than 97% of people who registered to vote in a particular place actually came out to vote is impossible.

Itsrm

In Anambra

Awka South - Peter Obi won 95% of accredited votes

Idemili North - Peter Obi won 95% of accredited votes

Onitsha North - Peter Obi won 97% of accredited votes

Ogbaru - Peter Obi won 97% of accredited votes

Nnewi South - Peter Obi won 97% of accredited votes

Aguata - Peter Obi won 94% of accredited votes

Anaocha - Peter Obi won 94% of accredited votes

Njikoka - Peter Obi won 95% of accredited votes

Nnewi North - Peter Obi won 96% of accredited votes

And so on n so forth.

Was this result rigged?

Itsrm:
No, you will have to show at least one local government in Anambra where there was 97% turnout of registered voters.

If only 50,000 people voted in Okene and all 50,000 voted for Ododo, no wahala. Your PO 100% vote will apply here.

To say more than 97% of people who registered to vote in a particular place actually came out to vote is impossible.

Bros what I'm telling you is that it's possible for a candidate to have 97% of accredited votes in a LG especially in one where it's a son of the soil that's on the ballot.

Why is it that it's only Adavi and Okene that are strong Ebira land that he Ododo got those numbers though there might be inflation of figures.

liveLongNprospa:
Add the justification.
"this person do am so we sef fit do am"

Omo !

My shock is shocked .

liveLongNprospa:
Add the justification.
"this person do am so we sef fit do am"

Justification will continue as long as there are no consequences for the brazen levels of electoral manipulation and malpractice that have occurred in the past.

We have not punished political parties and their chieftains that have been found guilty of snatching ballot boxes, voter intimidation, thuggery, overvoting, vote buying and other forms of malpractice.

INEC watches while all political parties package Garri/ sugar/ groundnut, onions, rice and other things to induce voters during campaign and do nothing about it. I can go on and on...At this point, it is free fight for the best rigger.

We have weak institutions that are easily susceptible to manipulation and that is one half of the problem.

You can't give what you don't have!

Roland17:
Our political culture is embedded in corruption and massive manipulation and that is the truth. The PDP will do the same thing if they were in power, look no further than Bayelsa in the same election cycle.

These guys no rate Nigerians at all. They know Nigerians will do absolutely nothing about these sort of rigging. They know nothing will come out of it and that is why there is no effort in even hiding the rigging.

Reminds me of Amaechis video. It's all forgotten now. We don shout as usual and moved on.

Look at the useless NLC and it will tell you everything you need to know. They have never successfully gone on strike to protest the hardship imposed by the government but now they want to go on strike because Ajaero was beaten.

larride:
Itsrm

In Anambra

Awka South - Peter Obi won 95% of accredited votes

Idemili North - Peter Obi won 95% of accredited votes

Onitsha North - Peter Obi won 97% of accredited votes

Ogbaru - Peter Obi won 97% of accredited votes

Nnewi South - Peter Obi won 97% of accredited votes

Aguata - Peter Obi won 94% of accredited votes

Anaocha - Peter Obi won 94% of accredited votes

Njikoka - Peter Obi won 95% of accredited votes

Nnewi North - Peter Obi won 96% of accredited votes

And so on n so forth.

Was this result rigged?

You are still not getting the point. It's not about the percentage of accredited votes that was won. Its about the percentage of registered voters who actually came out to vote.

Ododo can win 100% of accredited votes in Okene for all I care. That's not the point I'm making. To say that 97% of registered voters came out to vote is impossible. What is the percentage of PVCs collected in Okene for starters? The figure you shared was 94% for the entire Kogi State.


How come the same thing did not happen in Muri and Dinos local government? Abi na only Ododo people sabi vote for their son?

Itsrm:
You are still not getting the point. It's not about the percentage of accredited votes that was won. Its about the percentage of registered voters who actually came out to vote.

Ododo can win 100% of accredited votes in Okene for all I care. That's not the point I'm making. To say that 97% of registered voters came out to vote is impossible. What is the percentage of PVCs collected in Okene for starters? The figure you shared was 94% for the entire Kogi State.


How come the same thing did not happen in Muri and Dinos local government? Abi na only Ododo people sabi vote for their son?

Dino is a paperweight politician, that has been established already. He lost his LG to APC by over 4k votes.

Go and check all the Igala LG and see the margin of win of Muri over Ododo and Dino.

Election is about turnout especially in a tribal election like Kogi own, Muri Igalas are the highest tribe in the state so any other tribe that wants to defeat them must turn up in high numbers and ensure that the other tribes vote for them also.

I'm not discounting that Okene and Adavi figures could be inflated, infact I pointed it out on Saturday here that the figures coming out of those 2 LG sounds bogus, what I'm telling you is that it's very possible for a candidate to get 97% of accredited votes in an LG. There are examples that abound.

Itsrm:
I know the same Dino also rigged the primaries that got him the PDP ticket but you can't watch that video and not feel for him.

The rigging no be here. It's right there with the presidential election result from Rivers.

I didn't feel for him oo.

https://www.nairaland.com/7909977/tinubu-orders-withdrawal-policemen-vips

Nothing, absolutely nothing is going to come out of it. Again, weak institutions and enforcement.

Example: Illegal Check Points. I have made this suggestion before..

If police officers are caught mounting illegal check points, locate the ASP/ DSP/ SP in charge of the station where they are stationed and punish him/her severely. You can use progressive discipline like suspension, transfers, demotion and ultimately expelling the officer from the force. Enforce it to the next level of command above the ASP/DSP/SP in charge of stations in that area. By the time 3-4 DSPs lose their jobs or get demoted because of illegal check points others will sit up because you can't tell me the ASPs/DSP/SPs don't know where his officers are after they resume shift even if they are on patrol.

Roland17:
https://www.nairaland.com/7909977/tinubu-orders-withdrawal-policemen-vips

Nothing, absolutely nothing is going to come out of it. Again, weak institutions and enforcement.

Example: Illegal Check Points. I have made this suggestion before..

If police officers are caught mounting illegal check points, locate the ASP/ DSP/ SP in charge of the station where they are stationed and punish him/her severely. You can use progressive discipline like suspension, transfers, demotion and ultimately expelling the officer from the force. Enforce it to the next level of command above the ASP/DSP/SP in charge of stations in that area. By the time 3-4 DSPs lose their jobs or get demoted because of illegal check points others will sit up because you can't tell me the ASPs/DSP/SPs don't know where his officers are after they resume shift even if they are on patrol.

Regarding check points they are not without the knowledge of the higher ups. In many cases na the bosses dey allocate them to spots to man

Ad the Ogas dey collect their commision too

liveLongNprospa:
Isn't the president in Saudi Arabia?
So how did this shit happen??

What does Ajuri have for us 😌

Omo Saudi no even send say awa number one citizen, a whole GCFR dey there and they're treating his citizens like lepers...nawa

Meanwhile they'll invest 100billion dollars in awa economy