bobestman:
Hmmm a certain athiest just lectured a brainwashed fellow from a cultist organisation. The Creator made an irrevocable couenant with his ppl. So when the bible says Hebrews or Jews (a fake name) it only refers to his ppl. In the verse the op quoted, it is only talking about Hebrews. Jews are the white impostors claiming to be Hebrews - Rev 2:9; 3:9. They have the land many years before the messiah came - 2 Kings 17. The Hebrews are your true teachers- Isaiah 44:7. You can't know the truth except the Mccoys the Hebrew come into the scene. Salvation or the truth will come from them - John 4:22. Paul warned you that they will wake up from their blindness or sleep one day. Isaiah prophecies shows they will first be restored. They will have a temple where everyone will go and seek their God. Only a true son can tell you about his father. A bastard can't. The unwise churchians that claim to replace Isreal are in a long sleep. You ppl don't know what you worship for salvation will come from the Hebrews - John 4:22

So who are the people still speaking and writing Hebrew today?

MaxInDHouse:

One funny thing about this OP is how he often call me out as if i'm the only person who believe Jesus on this forum imagine finding the verse that foresaw the emergence of Governing Body and the next thing he did was to call out MaxInDhouse!

Because you are always responding on almost every thread in this section day and night believing you spoke and saw Jesus Christ 2000 years ago.

MindHacker9009:

Because you are always responding on almost every thread in this section day and night believing you spoke and saw Jesus Christ 2000 years ago.

No wahala go and erase the name "JESUS" in the hearts of millions of his disciples!

FRANCISTOWN:

Where is the proof of the god of the old testament?
Is his name no longer yhwh?
yhwh is just a fictional character like the rest of the gods.

stop using your ignorant understanding of a master piece to judge...

Myer:

1. So many atheists are actually very knowledgeable about God and Christianity.
But knowledge is not enough, experiencing the Spirit of God is where the life and power is.

2. 2Cor.3.6 - who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

3. I perceive you were once closed to God but got frustrated and backslided. Like the prodigal son, repelt and return in to the love and kingdom of your Father.

I'd have to disagree with you.

Your bible says that "Knowledge" is a very formidable weapon, for with it you can never be destroyed. Hosea 4:6.
Proverbs 24:5
A wise man is strong,
And a man of knowledge increases power

Proverbs 11:9
With his mouth the godless man destroys his neighbor,
But through knowledge the righteous will be delivered.

Proverbs 24:4
And by knowledge the rooms are filled
With all precious and pleasant riches.

@ the emboldeneds, knowledge has always made people experience life and power. What is going on in Isreal today is not the work of any spirit but of knowledge and power

2. The letter does not kill. If it killed, why did yhwh say this to Joshua in Joshua 1: 8

Keep this Book of the Law always on your lips; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful.

Your bible never mentioned anything spirit in that verse. Simply read and ponder.

3. I didn't get frustrated. I just got selfish. I was doing everything for the imaginary god.

He couldn't praise himself so I was praising him.
He couldn't win souls for himself and I was doing it.
He couldn't defend himself and I was doing that.
He couldn't clean his house and I was doing that.
He couldn't build his own house and I had to help him.

He was becoming more of a liability so, one day I thought about it.
These gods have never done anything for themselves by themselves. People have always done every single thing for them as easy as speaking for themselves.

That was a wrap! They can't do anything for themselves because they don't exist. The maths is simple.

Now I'm doing stuff for myself and humanity not for any imaginary sky monster

MaxInDHouse:


The same way you can't define Christianity to me because Christianity simply means the movement of people who are Christlike.
So if you don't know those practicing what Jesus commanded then there's no need for any explanation from you after all you're an atheist one who doesn't believe in the existence of God!

Let's both stick to the dictionary meaning of both words.

If that? Then it's fair to say. There is no one on the surface of the earth who lives up the lifestyle of that character called Jesus, hence there is no christain on earth.

MaxInDHouse:

This is all i need in your post!
So calling a stupid atheist "knowledgeable" makes no sense tell him that there's provision for gentiles to become SPIRITUAL JEWS!

Ima fact, you are the one who is most stupid. Your Jesus didnt say only the people who believe in your Yhwh are knowledgeable. In fact, he even said non-yhwh believers are wiser.
Luke 16: 8 " for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light."

There is nothing you can tell me, atheists are far wiser than christains.
Your bible knew it takes a whole lot of dumbness to believe in such fairy ass stories.

22jumpstreet1:


stop using your ignorant understanding of a master piece to judge...

Since you are not ignorant. Educate me. Using the same bible

FRANCISTOWN:


I'd have to disagree with you.

Your bible says that "Knowledge" is a very formidable weapon, for with it you can never be destroyed. Hosea 4:6.
Proverbs 24:5
A wise man is strong,
And a man of knowledge increases power

Proverbs 11:9
With his mouth the godless man destroys his neighbor,
But through knowledge the righteous will be delivered.

Proverbs 24:4
And by knowledge the rooms are filled
With all precious and pleasant riches.

@ the emboldeneds, knowledge has always made people experience life and power. What is going on in Isreal today is not the work of any spirit but of knowledge and power

2. The letter does not kill. If it killed, why did yhwh say this to Joshua in Joshua 1: 8

Keep this Book of the Law always on your lips; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful.

Your bible never mentioned anything spirit in that verse. Simply read and ponder.

3. I didn't get frustrated. I just got selfish. I was doing everything for the imaginary god.

He couldn't praise himself so I was praising him.
He couldn't win souls for himself and I was doing it.
He couldn't defend himself and I was doing that.
He couldn't clean his house and I was doing that.
He couldn't build his own house and I had to help him.

He was becoming more of a liability so, one day I thought about it.
These gods have never done anything for themselves by themselves. People have always done every single thing for them as easy as speaking for themselves.

That was a wrap! They can't do anything for themselves because they don't exist. The maths is simple.

Now I'm doing stuff for myself and humanity not for any imaginary sky monster

I Corinthians 8:1-13 NKJV Now concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him.

MaxInDHouse:

This is all i need in your post!
So calling a stupid atheist "knowledgeable" makes no sense tell him that there's provision for gentiles to become SPIRITUAL JEWS!

Cherry-picking what you want to hear just for you to be justified that you're right, is the perfect recipe for spiritual stagnancy.
Whenever you get around to reading Romans 9, I will be waiting to hear your thoughts on it.

FRANCISTOWN:

Let's both stick to the dictionary meaning of both words.
If that? Then it's fair to say. There is no one on the surface of the earth who lives up the lifestyle of that character called Jesus, hence there is no christain on earth.

Of course there are millions living that lifestyle but since you don't want to reason you can't grasp the fact that they are living up to the lifestyle Jesus set for them! Act 1:8

MaxInDHouse:

Do you think ATHEISTS have the knowledge of God at all?

The foolish atheist only quotes what his white supremacists infused in his head.

Lemme tell you this. When your white supremacists were busy conquering the world, they also came with christianity. No where in the records, documentaries or histories that they taught atheism to people. Before your white supremacists brought christianity to you.

There've been records of people who once believed in a God up there but at some points of their lives, they lost faith e.g Efunsetan Aniwura, Alaafin Jomi Jomi of the old Oyo Empire. E.t.c

A very stupid person , I mean irredeemably stupid, thinks atheism is a white man thing. Whereas, atheism is a thing of facing reality.

You are the one who has drowned yourself in the dungeon of the lies your white supremacists told you. Jehovah witnesses cult group started as a prayer gathering started by
Charles Taze Russell in Pennsylvania,the states.
Does Taze sound like Emeka, Afọlábí or Hainahu?

Does Pennsylvania sound like Ekiti or Anambra? Keep living in delusion.

MaxInDHouse:



"Circumcision is, in fact, of benefit only if you practice law; but if you are a transgressor of law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. If, therefore, an uncircumcised person keeps the righteous requirements of the Law, his uncircumcision will be counted as circumcision, will it not? And the physically uncircumcised person will, by carrying out the Law, judge you who are a transgressor of law despite having its written code and circumcision. For he is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision something on the outside, on the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit and not by a written code. That person’s praise comes from God, not from people" Romans 2:25-29

What Apostle Paul was saying here is entirely different . Are you aware that the Jews were not the only ones who practice circumcision.
Infact, circumcision started in Egypt. Does that mean anyone who is circumcised is also a spiritual Egyptian or a spiritual Muslim?
For heaven's sake. What is this?

MaxInDHouse:

So in what way does an atheist have the knowledge about God or Christianity?

In many ways that you'll never be able to comprehend.

Myer:

I Corinthians 8:1-13 NKJV Now concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him.

How you guys love what doesn't exist baffles me

FRANCISTOWN:

Ima fact, you are the one who is most stupid. Your Jesus didnt say only the people who believe in your Yhwh are knowledgeable. In fact, he even said non-yhwh believers are wiser.
Luke 16: 8 " for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light."

There is nothing you can tell me, atheists are far wiser than christains.
Your bible knew it takes a whole lot of dumbness to believe in such fairy ass stories.

Guy you're just a dumb fool walahi talahi!

So you're one of the children of this world or one of their generation shey?

Why not ask for the meaning and know if you are one of those Jesus was referring to in that statement?

Well i will school you:

Children of light are CHRISTIANS and the children of this world are POLITICIANS.
So how are they wiser than the children of the light?

They can give whatever it takes to get their share in the goodies that comes along with politics in fact most of them are ready to do away with their families, friends and love ones as long as it's sure they will attain the position they're pursuing in their political career.

But when it comes to Christians none is ready to loose everything they heard for what they are going to gain through the Christ in fact even those that saw him, walked with him, performed miracles in his name and got the promise that they will RULE with him in his kingdom weren't as determined as worldly politicians.

So my guy are you a politician?
What political post are you going for?
You're so stupid that you count yourself one of the children of this system of things whereas you're always here arguing for nothing as in NOTHING when the real children of the world are out there pursuing their political career!

MaxInDHouse:


Of course there are millions living that lifestyle but since you don't want to reason you can't grasp the fact that they are living up to the lifestyle Jesus set for them! Act 1:8

I'm begining to enjoy where this conversation is heading.

Here is Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

So let's take it one at a time.

1. What power was he talking about?

2. What is the proof of the holy ghost coming upon you?

Myer:

Cherry-picking what you want to hear just for you to be justified that you're right, is the perfect recipe for spiritual stagnancy.
Whenever you get around to reading Romans 9, I will be waiting to hear your thoughts on it.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

FRANCISTOWN:

How you guys love what doesn't exist baffles me

There's so much I could try to share with you but you're now too carnal/sensual, you can't understand them.

Bottom line is that for some reason you have been separated from God that's why spiritual things can't make any sense to you until you find grace and mercy and favor to be reconnected back to God.

Romans 8.5-8
For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

FRANCISTOWN:

I'm begining to enjoy where this conversation is heading.

Here is Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

So let's take it one at a time.

1. What power was he talking about?

2. What is the proof of the holy ghost Holy Spirit coming upon you?

It's there in the comment:

Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} he died for not supporting the first century Jewish political revolutionary movement because with all the powers he had he was preaching PEACE while people of his nation were expecting a King like David who will lead them to battle against Rome that was oppressing them back then {John 11:48} so it became like a war for anyone who will follow his footsteps to preach the same message since Satan is gathering people throughout the earth for a showdown in politics Jesus' true disciples will face fierce opposition from all sides {John 15:19-21} this is really terrifying that's why his disciples needs the power of God's active force to go out and make disciples right among those who are already under the control of Satan the devil! Matthew 10:16

MaxInDHouse:

Guy you're just a dumb fool walahi talahi!

So you're one of the children of this world or one of their generation shey?

Why not ask for the meaning and know if you are one of those Jesus was referring to in that statement?

Well i will school you:

Children of light are CHRISTIANS and the children of this world are POLITICIANS.
So how are they wiser than the children of the light?

Stop giving your meaning to what is glaring. What about Muslims, ethnic religion worshippers, Buddhist e.t.c ?
Which children are they, Children of heaven?

What about scammers, prostitutes, armed robbers, murdered e.t.c?
Are they Children of light?

So when your bible says "The god of this WORLD" does it mean "The god over only POLITICIANS"?
If so? Only politicians should not be christains.

Your bible always categorizes things into two parts. Your Jesus said in Matthew 6:24 that you are either for Yhwh or not. Light or the world.
There is no where your bible says politicians are the children of the world.

Man! You are so dumb than I had imagined.

Only the politicians are the children of the world, really?
BTW. I am not a guy, I'm a man

Myer:

Cherry-picking what you want to hear just for you to be justified that you're right, is the perfect recipe for spiritual stagnancy.
Whenever you get around to reading Romans 9, I will be waiting to hear your thoughts on it.

Face the fact and leave story for the gods.

You said there is provision for gentiles to become SPIRITUAL JEWS but the atheist said there is nothing like spiritual Jews.

So first tell him that he knows nothing about God and Christianity before coming to learn from me!

MaxInDHouse:


Face the fact and leave story for the gods.

You said there is provision for gentiles to become SPIRITUAL JEWS but the atheist said there is nothing like spiritual Jews.

So first tell him that he knows nothing about God and Christianity before coming to learn from me!

You are the one who needs to go back to primary one to take C.R.k all over again.

Spiritual Hausa man

MaxInDHouse:


It's there in the comment:

Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} he died for not supporting the first century Jewish political revolutionary movement because with all the powers he had he was preaching PEACE while people of his nation were expecting a King like David who will lead them to battle against Rome that was oppressing them back then {John 11:48} so it became like a war for anyone who will follow his footsteps to preach the same message since Satan is gathering people throughout the earth for a showdown in politics Jesus' true disciples will face fierce opposition from all sides {John 15:19-21} this is really terrifying that's why his disciples needs the power of God's active force to go out and make disciples right among those who are already under the control of Satan the devil! Matthew 10:16

You've not answered my question
1. What power?
2. The proof of the holy ghost

By the way , why did you replace holy ghost with active force?

FRANCISTOWN:

Stop giving your meaning to what is glaring. What about Muslims, ethnic religion worshippers, Buddhist e.t.c ?
Which children are they, Children of heaven?

Ọmọ this is Maximus no be moimoi o!

No matter the religion anyone could be in fact an atheist from God's viewpoint is just as innocent as the thief who was promised Paradise because many of them like me do turn back to join God's people in preaching and teaching about God's kingdom but a politician will never ever give up his political career for anything not even the promise of 1M mansions and virgins in heaven.

An example is a Jewish politician who wants to become part of the children of the light:

And one of the RULERS questioned him, saying: “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit everlasting life?” Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God. You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not bear false witness, honor your father and your mother.’” Then he said: “All of these I have kept from youth on.” After hearing that, Jesus said to him, “There is still one thing lacking about you: Sell all the things you have and distribute the proceeds to the poor, and you will have treasure in the heavens; and come be my follower.” When he heard this, he became deeply grieved, for he was very rich" Luke 18:18-23

Is this man ready to loose his political career for the light?

NO!

Myer:

There's so much I could try to share with you but you're now too carnal/sensual, you can't understand them.

Bottom line is that for some reason you have been separated from God that's why spiritual things can't make any sense to you until you find grace and mercy and favor to be reconnected back to God.

I'd suggest the grace and the mercy be sent to kids who are dying of hunger and malaria. I'm good.
BTW. There is nothing you wanna tell me that I've prolly not heard before.
There is no need to share anything with me. Just show me a proof of your God and we'good

FRANCISTOWN:

You are the one who needs to go back to primary one to take C.R.k all over again.
Spiritual Hausa man

You don't know what you're arguing for?

The name JEW simply means those who are ready to live by the laws of the God of Abraham not people in a geographical location as you were erroneously taught.

So JEW is religious not about nationality!

FRANCISTOWN:

You've not answered my question
1. What power?
2. The proof of the holy ghost
By the way , why did you replace holy ghost with active force?

The power is for boldness to preach and teach about Jesus of Nazareth:

"For although we had first suffered and been insolently treated in Phi·lipʹpi, as you know, we mustered up BOLDNESS BY MEANS OF OUR OUR GOD to tell you the good news of God in the face of much opposition. 1Thessalonians 2:2

MaxInDHouse:

Ọmọ this is Maximus no be moimoi o!

No matter the religion anyone could be in fact an atheist from God's viewpoint is just as innocent as the thief who was promised Paradise because many of them like me do turn back to join God's people in preaching and teaching about God's kingdom but a politician will never ever give up his political career for anything not even the promise of 1M mansions and virgins in heaven.

An example is a Jewish politician who wants to become part of the children of the light:

And one of the RULERS questioned him, saying: “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit everlasting life?” Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God. You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not bear false witness, honor your father and your mother.’” Then he said: “All of these I have kept from youth on.” After hearing that, Jesus said to him, “There is still one thing lacking about you: Sell all the things you have and distribute the proceeds to the poor, and you will have treasure in the heavens; and come be my follower.” When he heard this, he became deeply grieved, for he was very rich" Luke 18:18-23

Is this man ready to loose his political career for the light?

NO!

In fact a moi moi will be better, but you are akamu.

The above bible verses don't show how politicians became only the children of the world. I put it to you again and I dare say that you have no knowledge whatsoever about your bible.

The bible refers anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus and the Yhwh as a heathen or a child of the world.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life
Are you saying that Yhwh sent Jesus only to the politicians or what are you saying?
Weren't there politicians who were faithful in your bible?

Was Joseph not a politician?
Was Daniel not a politician?
And so on.

Were they also children of the world because they were politicians?

Man! You need to do better

MaxInDHouse:


The power is for boldness to preach and teach about Jesus of Nazareth:

"For although we had first suffered and been insolently treated in Phi·lipʹpi, as you know, we mustered up BOLDNESS BY MEANS OF OUR OUR GOD to tell you the good news of God in the face of much opposition. 1Thessalonians 2:2

Okay, the power = boldness.
Good, question 1 answered.
What about the other two?

MaxInDHouse:


You don't know what you're arguing for?

The name JEW simply means those who are ready to live by the laws of the God of Abraham not people in a geographical location as you were erroneously taught.

So JEW is religious not about nationality!

At the emboldened. Stop using that phrase. It makes me see you as a very stupid person who keeps repeating the same thing like a broken record.
Who taught what to who? You are the one talking from a JW cult group viewpoint. Do atheists hold classes on who is a Jew and not?

If not , then when taught what to me?

Last I checked, "Jew" is not listed among any religions of the world. How did "yorubanism" become religious? That's a tribe just as being a Jew is.
Oh! Man!

FRANCISTOWN:

In fact a moi moi will be better, but you are akamu.

The above bible verses don't show how politicians became only the children of the world. I put it to you again and I dare say that you have no knowledge whatsoever about your bible.

Ọmọ this is not the first time you've promised never to engage me but i wonder what keeps dragging you back to me!

According to the Bible book of Genesis Satan introduced politics to Adam and Eve so they're to start setting standards regarding right and wrong on their own no longer relying on what God has to say. Genesis 3:1-5

That's the beginning of the children of this world the children of the light are those who are always submissive to whatever comes from the mouth of God's servants.

From that time henceforth the enmity began between the children of light and the children of darkness! Genesis 3:15

So if anyone choose to become political he can't bow to God's servants again because he or she will like to set the rules not yielding to what God's servants say.

Ọmọ that's the Genesis of the war between light and darkness!

FRANCISTOWN:

Okay, the power = boldness.
Good, question 1 answered.
What about the other two?

Guy i've got many to attend to so if you're serious let me have your question!

FRANCISTOWN:

At the emboldened. Stop using that phrase. It makes me see you as a very stupid person who keeps repeating the same thing like a broken record.
Who taught what to who? You are the one talking from a JW cult group viewpoint. Do atheists hold classes on who is a Jew and not?

If not , then when taught what to me?

Last I checked, "Jew" is not listed among any religions of the world. How did "yorubanism" become religious? That's a tribe just as being a Jew is.
Oh! Man!

You keep on amusing me walahi talahi.

OK if someone says he or she is a Yorùbá man what religion would you conclude he practice?

That name JEW stands for religion so once you here the word JEW you can conclude that he is of Abrahamic religion.
That's the point!