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Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by CrystalBliss: 10:08am On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: Of course. That's why He becomes our High Priest. What does the Levitical ancestry have to do with Mary being the sister of Aaron? |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by AntiChristian: 10:10am On Nov 14, 2023 |
TenQ: Only holy spirit confused fellows dey parrot such nonsense! |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 10:15am On Nov 14, 2023 |
CrystalBliss: Sister by being of the same tribe. Sister in regards of relations to the jewish temple |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 10:29am On Nov 14, 2023 |
SIRTee15: David realised he did not give perfect justice haven not listened to both sides of the dispute. You talked about Ashanti and the Yoruba mythological Sango. What do Yoruba and Ashanti share in common? Arabs getting cut off removes a shared ancestry through Ishmael to Abraham. Please explain. Or what exactly were they cut off from? "try another religion. I'm very much happy to welcome u to the Christian fold." You say yet? SIRTee15: Are you expecting me to blindly follow or come under your spell? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just saw someone refer to you as having some anointing. Oh please. |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by SIRTee15: 11:22am On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: Yoruba and Ashanti share the same west African ancestry. The Haplogroups E1b1a and E1b1b are found in both tribes in varying frequencies. Go and read about the battle of atakpame to learn about engagement btw both tribes prior to your colonial division claim. That we share same ancestry doesn't mean Ashanti should be correcting the history of sango for the yorubas. It makes no sense. Sango is a unique historical events for the Yorubas only. The Arabs were never called Israelites, they are not levants, they were never regarded as cannanites. The story of David happened when Israelites had settled in the land of Canaan, they had no interaction with the Arabs. Maybe if the philistines had written about David and bathsheba, I would give it serious consideration because they had regular engagement with the Israelites. Arabs never linked their lineage to Abraham until Muhammed appeared on stage. The kabba was a shrine dedicated to a Nabataean deity called Hubal for hundreds of years. There's no pre islamic evidence that Abraham and Ismael built the kabba. Muhammed is the one who should explain how he came about all these fascinating tales. Simple. |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 11:43am On Nov 14, 2023 |
SIRTee15: Pure Bunkum. Tell me exact persons in their ancestral lineage not genetics. When you tell me a common character between Ashanti and Yoruba not geographical generalization there may be an axiom for discussion. Where did Arabs come from? Can their ancestry be traced? Tell me too are the Indians cut off? I know no mention of an Indian prophet in the Bible. I see your problem is the source of information. How lowly you view the ability of God. |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by CrystalBliss: 11:47am On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: Lol. She's a descendant and can in no way be called a sister of Aaron. Stop lying. Are you the brother of your grandfather? |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by TenQ: 12:07pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
AntiChristian:So will you be kind enough to tell us of the three daughters of Allah whose intercession is desired? We are waiting! |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 12:41pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
CrystalBliss: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You decide the lies you believe isn't it? Over how many centuries is Jesus a son of David? Explain precisely the differences in the relativity? Sisters who share the same tribe origins possess a unique and profound bond. Their shared cultural heritage acts as a unifying force, providing them with a deep understanding of each other's experiences, values, and traditions. This common background allows sisters to strengthen their connection and forge a powerful sisterhood rooted in their shared roots. Sisters who share the same tribe origins but are not related by blood or familial ties showcase the power of kinship and the significance of culture in forging connections. This surely cannot make sense to you. |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by SIRTee15: 12:42pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: So u will take oral tradition over science? Is that what u saying. Are u arguing historical records trumps scientific evidence? Seriously. Then why all the noise about DNA test. If your wife tells u this is your child why do u dispute it when DNA evidence says otherwise. Abegi, this one no be talk. Explore2xmore: 🥱🥱🥱🥱 Seriously I don't even understand what u talking here. Where did Indians take enter the picture. Did their gods also gave them a story about David and bathsheba? My friend rest. West African history u no sabi. Arab history that u follow their religion, u no sabi. I've been asking u to provide just one evidence from the Koran that the 2 litigants are supernatural beings. U failed to give a response. I think this case is now done and dusted. Muhammed's story is a big lie. Baba iro. Thank u TenQ for doing a good job bringing this up. As for my faith. I think I have debated the bible with u b4. If I'm right, we discussed the book of 2nd Peter. I'm never afraid nor ashamed to discuss the gospel. It's the power of salvation to everyone. Feel free to tag me whenever u open a thread about the bible and we will cure your doubt/ignorance Something u guys couldn't do here. Maranatha. God bless. 1 Like |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 12:46pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
So you have done scientific study to authenticate all the people you are related to? Is there this much dishonesty in your family so you disbelieve who your parents tell you are relatives? Were these scientific studies done to prove kinship by the people you read about in your bible? Don't be a clown. SIRTee15: |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by CrystalBliss: 1:14pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: Are you Yoruba? Over how many centuries are you the son of Oduduwa? Why do you guys love lies? Your talk about sisterhood up there is absolute nonsense. Are you the brother of your grandfather by that warped logic? A descendant of a matriarch or patriarch is never referred to as sister or brother in any culture. Stop lying! Mary was never the sister of Aaron, Mariam was. And, Mary is different from Mariam! Allah goofed. Mary is a daughter of Aaron, as Jesus is the Son of David in the flesh, not brother. |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Qasim6(m): 1:40pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Akhi, I tire for the guy. He's giving me story of when they likely start using pharaoh for Egyptian kings. They are as Allah describe them, Their hearts are blind. Qur'an they always claim copied the Bible stories did not make mistake of calling the Egyptian kings of old kingdom pharaoh. 1 Like |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by SIRTee15: 2:04pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: Guy rest u just waffling. DNA evidence proves Ashanti and Yoruba shares same west African ancestry. But that doesn't mean they should be correcting Yoruba history on Sango. That's my point. If u choose to believe your wife's story over DNA test when it comes to paternity of your child, all when and good. U won't be the first. Feminists worldwide will celebrate u. Sha don't complain when the child grows up and start looking like your tenant.
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Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 2:25pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
CrystalBliss: Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon - KJV 'achowth https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/achowth.html
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Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 2:36pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
This doesn't mean zit. Bringforth historically documented persons showing common Ashanti and Yoruba heritage. Though they may speak different languages and eat distinct foods, people from far-flung geographical locations are genetically very similar, researchers say. Lineage refers to the direct line of descent from an ancestor, typically through the male line. It is a term used in genealogy to trace family relationships and establish a person’s ancestry. Ancestry, on the other hand, refers to a person’s family or ethnic background, including all of their ancestors, both male and female, and their cultural heritage. It is a broader term than lineage, encompassing all of the people who have contributed to a person’s genetic makeup and cultural identity. SIRTee15:
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Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by CrystalBliss: 2:37pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: Sister is Metaphor for Northern Israel and Judah relationship. Not blood family relations. The metaphor is used in Ezekiel 23. Ezekiel refers to Oholah and Oholibah and identifies them as Samaria (the capital of Israel) and Jerusalem (the capital of Judah) in Ezekiel 23:4. The sisters are “daughters of the same mother” (verse 2) because Israel and Judah were originally one nation, Israel. The term is used like saying South Korea and North Korea are sister nations. We are talking about blood relations here. Mary was not just a tribeswoman of Aaron. She was his descendant. Not her sister. No Israelite would even ever refer to Aaron as brother because of his position as high priest. He is the father of the Levitical priesthood. Mary is not Mariam. Allah goofed. |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 2:50pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
CrystalBliss: the sister 'achowth (aw-khoth') a sister (used very widely, literally and figuratively) -- (an-)other, sister, together. |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by SIRTee15: 3:42pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: Show me pre islamic evidence that Arabs linked their lineage to Abraham or claim they are descendants of Abraham. Then show me evidence Arabs had any interaction with Israelites in the 10th century BCE to know enough about what's going on in david's court. |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by SIRTee15: 4:01pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: My friend, Jews don't make reference to their genealogy with sister or uncle. It's always son or daughter when linking themselves to their lineage. The first time using sister or uncle as reference to JEWISH ANCESTRY came up in the Koran, a book written by non Jews. No Jew will ever say Mary, sister of Aaron to establish Mary's ancestry. It must be Mary daughter of Aaron and Imran. show me anywhere a Jew was linked to his or her genealogy using sister or uncle. Just one evidence. Muhammed confused Miriam for Mary when dictating the Koran because the two names bear Maryam in the Arabic language. So Muhammed must have heard Arab Christians mentioning Maryam being the sister of Aaron and also heard Maryam being the mother of Jesus. When u understand above, the confusion and extrapolation becomes obvious. 1 Like |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by MightySparrow: 4:09pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Agreed, answer my question anyway. |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 4:20pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
In absolute Truth Jesus has no earthly father. How then is his case treated? SIRTee15: |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by AntiChristian: 4:45pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
MightySparrow: What question? |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by CrystalBliss: 4:46pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: I didn't say it's not widely in use. The screenshot you posted pointed out a metaphoric use between Israel and Judah which you wanted to use to defend the lie. Mary was not the sister of Aaron. Please stop this nonsense. |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by MightySparrow: 5:08pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by SIRTee15: 5:10pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: We debating the Miriam, Mary and Maryam conundrum. Stay on topic. Defend the Koran alone. U like talking off point too much. I've told u, it u want to talk about the bible create a thread and tag me. |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 7:12pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
The subject of this thread is Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an - Religion until CrystalBliss derailed it. Perharps you can open a thread to discuss your last statement. SIRTee15: |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by TenQ: 7:46pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:Treated from both Joseph and Mary. Joseph as his foster father John 6:42: "And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he said, I came down from heaven?" Matt 1:1-17 And Mary as biological Mother (Mary's Father) Luke 2:23-38 But this is not even the theme of the discussion : see how you conveniently avoided my questions. Back to the theme of discussion It didn't dawn on you that as you Muslims usually claim that "the Qur'an is not a storybook" that Allah or is it Mohammed summarised the story . If not, can you tell us what finally happened to the ewe in question? Is this an exact replica of what happened between the litigant and David? If it is, 1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance? 2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation? 3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two? Above for your response By the way, How did the poor man convince the rich man to climb the fence with him to seek redress with the king |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 7:52pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
When you pretend not to see: Explore2xmore:How then can you see the conclusion? TenQ: |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by TenQ: 7:59pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: If you had checked, you'd have seen this TenQ: And note that you were the one avoiding a response Followed by TenQ: |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by Explore2xmore: 8:19pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: TenQ: Show me your response on me questioning you of Q38:23 |
Re: Obvious Error Of Comprehension In The Qur'an by AntiChristian: 8:52pm On Nov 14, 2023 |
MightySparrow: This is an asinine question! Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam didn't write Anything from the Qur'an! And how will Satan write? |
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